--- Log opened Mon Oct 09 00:00:17 2017 01:02 -!- remoford [~remo_lapt@c-68-52-35-32.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:58 -!- k3ymkr [~KeyMaker@ec2-52-6-16-39.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:02 -!- k3ymkr [~KeyMaker@ec2-52-6-16-39.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #se2600 06:12 < k3ymkr> Just tried the date -d "first friday next month" and it gives me 11/13 06:12 < k3ymkr> i think it's a month in the future and then the next Friday 06:17 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 06:38 * aestetix hugs Dolemite 07:11 < k3ymkr> This is the best I could do to replace it. 07:11 < k3ymkr> d=`date -d "$(date +%Y-%m-1) 1 month"`;date -d @$((`date +%s -d "$d"`+86400*(6-(`date +%w -d "$d"`+1)%7))) 07:11 < k3ymkr> ugly, but works 07:12 < k3ymkr> Well and still keep it in date. You could probably do something simplier in perl/python 07:18 -!- remoford [~remo_lapt@c-68-52-35-32.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 08:00 < aestetix> so a protip for anyone who wants to do volunteer work in government stuff 08:01 < aestetix> government people are stupid, slow, easily manipulated, and cannot handle basic drama 08:01 < aestetix> which could mean lots of fun for you 08:02 < aestetix> this doubles for nonprofit orgs 08:05 <@Dolemite> Today's lesson in deja vu -> http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/10/09/democrats-mcgovern-1972-trump-nixon-2020-215687?lo=ap_c1 08:05 < PigBot> Dolemite: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 30480 bytes. 08:07 < aestetix> "In 1968, as in 2016, Democrats narrowly lost the White House after nominating a relatively moderate, establishment candidate instead of a more liberal alternative who had inspired a raging enthusiasm among younger voters. " 08:07 < aestetix> wow, I need to learn more about the 1968 election 08:09 <@Dolemite> Ha! What a typo! 08:09 <@Dolemite> "Trump’s approval ratings are abysmal for a first-year president. But then, his numbers last year were also horrible, showing him ass the least popular presidential candidate in the history of modern polling, yet he won anyway." 08:09 <@Dolemite> showing him ASS 08:10 < aestetix> well it also shows that nobody is saying their honest opinions to pollsters 08:10 <@Dolemite> yep 08:11 < aestetix> btw, am I missing something, or did the media completely stop covering the Las Vegas psycho? 08:12 < k3ymkr> They are still talking about him. He apparently was popping vallum and placing million dollar bets. 08:13 < aestetix> I'm still interested in what his motives were 08:13 < k3ymkr> Hadn't heard that yet 08:13 < k3ymkr> they also researched his house. 08:13 < aestetix> did they find anything there? 08:13 <@Dolemite> houses, not house 08:13 < k3ymkr> I don't think they've said 08:14 -!- remoford [~remo_lapt@c-68-52-35-32.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:15 < aestetix> so far nothing I have heard would lead one to logically conclude he would be a mass murderer 08:15 <@Dolemite> I read an article last week where some press had interviewed ex neighbors at one of his houses... said he had a huge safe in the garage, but very little furniture, and wouldn't talk to anybody 08:16 <@Dolemite> Neighbors described him as a weird recluse. If that's a mitigating factor, we're all now under surveillance. 08:16 < aestetix> So he had no shrines to Hitler or anything else? 08:17 < k3ymkr> George Carlin: 08:17 < k3ymkr> "You ever hear that? Some guy goes and murders a bunch of people and the neighbors always start talking about what a quiet guy he was. And then you hear oh it's the quiet ones you got to watch. Oh yeah? While you're watching a quiet one, a noisy one will fucking kill you! Suppose you're at a bar and there's a guy sitting in the back not bothering anybody. And then there's a guy at the bar banging a machete against it going "I'm gonn 08:17 <@Dolemite> I've seen some conspiracy theories that he was collecting the guns and maximizing the casualties because he's a liberal wanting to prove how easy it is to do damage and thereby kick off legislature to curtail the 2nd ammendment. 08:18 < aestetix> lol 08:18 < aestetix> That would imply that Congress can agree on something. 08:19 < k3ymkr> Logically, why would you shoot up country music fans in Vegas? 08:19 < k3ymkr> I mean there likely is no logic 08:19 < k3ymkr> or sound logic 08:20 < k3ymkr> It could be he was making a point. It could be he wanted to kill a bunch of people and they were easy targets 08:21 < aestetix> yeah but usually there is some data point you can use to establish a motive 08:21 < aestetix> like I dunno, wanting to kill the president to get jodie foster's attention ;) 08:22 <@Dolemite> I think if you drew a venn diagram of Country Music Fans vs. Gun Owners, it would look like two concentric circles. That's the basis of the conspiracy theory. 08:22 < k3ymkr> I know. I'm just stating we don't know yet. The most logical thing I can think is something like what Dolemite said 08:22 < aestetix> Do we at least know if the guy got the guns legally? 08:22 <@Dolemite> yes, he did 08:22 < k3ymkr> I heard he had. 08:23 < aestetix> well then 08:23 < k3ymkr> He legally bought a kit that could turn the gun fully automatic (or so I heard) 08:23 <@Corydon76> And, the dealers from whom he bought the firearms had no inkling of what he was going to do 08:23 <@Dolemite> But that's not hard to do at all 08:24 <@Corydon76> k3ymkr: not really fully automatic, just enables the operator to pull the trigger faster 08:25 <@Corydon76> The problem is that the barrels aren't built for that rate of fire, so the firearms heat up too quickly 08:25 < k3ymkr> K. Not trying to spread fake news. Thus why I added (So i heard) 08:25 <@Corydon76> That's why he needed such a large collection of firearms, to swap out when one got too hot 08:26 < aestetix> This reminds me of all the people demanding that facebook adopt a "real" names policy to curb cyber bullying after a girl killed herself due to it 08:26 < aestetix> none of them knew that facebook already had such a policy 08:26 < k3ymkr> The audio sounded like he was firing really quickly. Maybe it was semi and he's just fast? 08:27 < aestetix> Also, if you want gun laws but are opposed to police enforcement..... who exactly do you want to enforce the gun laws? 08:27 < k3ymkr> Or that Australia banned guns after a mass shooting? 08:27 <@Corydon76> Fully automatic means that it fires as long as you hold down the trigger. The way the bump stock works is that it presses against the trigger finger in such a way that the trigger is operated more quickly 08:28 < k3ymkr> Ah 08:29 <@Corydon76> What he needed on the barrel to use a single firearm was a way to dissipate the heat from the barrel more quickly 08:30 <@Dolemite> doesn't it use the force of the recoil to actuate the trigger in a more automatic fashion? 08:31 <@Corydon76> Dolemite: My understanding is that it acts against the finger, so the operator can still stop mid-magazine 08:31 <@Dolemite> Well, yes, the operator still has control 08:37 <@Dolemite> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCx1rgxXVKA 08:37 < PigBot> Title: Las Vegas shooting: How does a bump stock work? - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/y945xuzd 08:40 -!- remoford [~remo_lapt@c-68-52-35-32.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 08:45 -!- crashcartpro [uid29931@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jromhofqbdzhyrcy] has joined #se2600 08:59 < aestetix> http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=57475 08:59 < PigBot> Title: Reporter: NYT Quashed My Story Exposing Weinstein In 2004 (at www.informationliberation.com) http://tinyurl.com/y9va8b55 09:13 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ac80:d900:7dd4:283f:579c:6c48] has joined #se2600 09:14 -!- remoford [~remo_lapt@c-68-52-35-32.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:34 -!- scam [~sicsscam@24.154.71.208] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:34 -!- scam [~sicsscam@24.154.71.208] has joined #se2600 10:07 <@Corydon76> http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/09/entertainment/hollywood-harvey-weinstein-react/index.html 10:07 < PigBot> Title: Meryl Streep, other stars speak out on Harvey Weinstein - CNN (at www.cnn.com) http://tinyurl.com/yaspabbg 10:09 -!- Dagmar [dagmar@unaffiliated/dagmar] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:11 -!- Dagmar [dagmar@c-69-180-254-140.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 10:11 -!- Dagmar [dagmar@c-69-180-254-140.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 10:11 -!- Dagmar [dagmar@unaffiliated/dagmar] has joined #se2600 10:11 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Dagmar] by ChanServ 12:48 * Catonic stirs 12:51 <@Dolemite> I said shaken, not stirred! 12:54 * Catonic shakes like a paint can 12:56 * Dolemite sticks a lighter in front of Catonic and pushes the nozzle 12:57 <@Dolemite> You've always wanted to be a flamethrower, right? 12:58 <@Catonic> I think that stage of my life is over. 12:59 * Catonic is no longer > 1% ABV 13:00 <@Dolemite> I think there's still plenty of hydrocarbon fumes in you to make a flame 13:02 <@Corydon76> Methane emitter? 13:03 <@Dolemite> breathing in all that gasoline 13:07 <@Catonic> shouldn't the topic be like... something that's coming up? 13:07 <@Dolemite> you'd think 13:07 -!- Dolemite changed the topic of #se2600 to: It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine. 13:08 <@Corydon76> Appropriate since someone is trying to start WW3 13:09 <@Catonic> NK? 13:10 <@Dolemite> White House 13:10 <@Catonic> It's not exactly WW3 if it's over in 90 minutes, is it? 13:10 <@Corydon76> It won't be over in 90 minutes 13:11 <@Corydon76> If we attack NK, China will declare war on us 13:11 <@Corydon76> And using nukes is the clearest way to ensure the world turns against us 13:12 <@Corydon76> So China will go conventional against us 13:12 <@Dolemite> Damn. Found a shirt to wear to PhreakNIC, but I won't be going since I have a scout camping event. :( 13:12 <@Dolemite> https://boingboing.net/2017/10/09/this-clowna-sutra-shirt-sh.html 13:12 <@Catonic> I expect NK will shake the saber a bit more, and then Trump will let the Navy go get the Pueblo. 13:14 <@Catonic> That or we'll send the Bones back in and precision bomb our own asset (Pueblo) right to the bottom of the bay. 13:15 < k3ymkr> Well there is PN 13:17 < k3ymkr> Next 2600 is `d=$(date -d "$(date +%Y-%m-1) 1 month");date -d @$(($(date +%s -d "$d")+86400*(6-($(date +%w -d "$d")+1)%7))) +%D` 13:17 < k3ymkr> And that works 13:18 <@Catonic> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Pueblo_(AGER-2) 13:18 < PigBot> Title: USS Pueblo (AGER-2) - Wikipedia (at en.wikipedia.org) http://tinyurl.com/ybbzgtvr 13:27 -!- K4k [elw@unaffiliated/k4k] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.9.1] 13:30 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxDoD4d5deM 13:30 < PigBot> Title: The Complexities of Foreign Policy (Ambassador James Dobbins) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/y7dpzlrw 13:47 <@Catonic> an hour?! 14:12 <@Dolemite> Time to call it a day. 14:36 < xray> it is only 15:00. What time zone are you in? 14:36 <@Evilpig> est 14:37 < xray> then again he may have started at 03:00 15:01 < aestetix> /win 24 15:01 < aestetix> oops 15:41 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ac80:d900:7dd4:283f:579c:6c48] has quit [] 16:38 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ac80:d900:7dd4:283f:579c:6c48] has joined #se2600 19:43 -!- skiboy [~skiboy@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/skiboy] has joined #se2600 20:09 -!- K4k [elw@unaffiliated/k4k] has joined #se2600 20:17 -!- K4k_ [~K4k@norge.sdf.org] has joined #se2600 20:19 -!- K4k_ [~K4k@norge.sdf.org] has quit [Client Quit] 20:20 -!- K4k [elw@unaffiliated/k4k] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:21 -!- K4k [~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k] has joined #se2600 20:22 -!- K4k_ [~K4k@knife.lugatgt.org] has joined #se2600 20:23 -!- K4k [~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:23 -!- K4k_ [~K4k@knife.lugatgt.org] has quit [Client Quit] 20:23 -!- K4k [~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k] has joined #se2600 20:43 -!- K4k [~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.6] 20:43 -!- K4k [elw@unaffiliated/k4k] has joined #se2600 22:54 -!- remoford [~remo_lapt@c-68-52-35-32.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 23:20 -!- remoford1 [~remo_lapt@c-68-52-35-32.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 23:22 -!- remoford [~remo_lapt@c-68-52-35-32.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] --- Log closed Tue Oct 10 00:00:18 2017