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01:48 <@_NSAKEY> K`Tetch: I wonder how much someone at the IRS was paid under the table to make that determination.
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03:39 < aestetix_> _NSAKEY: I would forgive the IRS for all this stuff if they would release Trump's tax returns :)
03:42 < aestetix_> in fact in that one motion I bet millions of Americans would forgive them for decades of being godawful
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06:24 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:28  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
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08:54 <@Corydon76> Dolemite: that is an awesome penetration test.
09:01 <@Dolemite> Heh, I figured you'd like that one
09:03 <@Corydon76> It's worse, because at least one company has allowed their devices to "phone home" over Wifi
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12:18 < cordless_> Corydon76: Which test?
12:18 <@Corydon76> See Facebook
12:19 <@Corydon76> Specifically, Dolemite's wall.
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13:12 < aestetix> https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/04/someone-dressed-like-the-monopoly-guy-is-photobombing-the-senates-equifax-hearing.html
13:12 < PigBot> Title: Someone dressed like the Monopoly guy is photobombing the Senate's Equifax hearing (at www.cnbc.com) http://tinyurl.com/yb9e9wdn
13:13 < xray> in light of the IRS fraud contract that is appropriatge
13:13 < xray> appropriate
14:08 < K`Tetch> aestetix - its a woman from Public Citizen
14:08 < K`Tetch> shes there to protest binding arbitration
14:08 < aestetix> K`Tetch: it's brilliant
14:33 <@Catonic> IRS?
14:34 < xray> http://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/03/equifax-irs-fraud-protection-contract-243419
14:34 < PigBot> xray: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 30480 bytes.
15:40 <@Dagmar> People are pissed because for what they're doing, they literally can not promise that the job is doable
15:40 <@Dagmar> It requires that the very information they just lost control of be private
15:41 <@Dagmar> So the whole "someone has to do it" argument is rather pointless
15:41 <@Dagmar> They're getting $7MM for a function they can't possibly perform, due to their own negligence.
16:01 <@Corydon76> Dagmar: Maybe.  I just learned yesterday of what database they actually lost:  it was the database of "corrections" that people sent in to fix their credit files
16:01 <@Corydon76> So if the data being corrected is how they're checking it, then yes, they lost that information, and they're useless
16:02 <@Dagmar> So basically, they're extra sure that correct information got stolen
16:02 <@Dagmar> That's just great
16:02 <@Corydon76> The corrections themselves contain full names and Social Security numbers, which is why it was such a problem
16:03 <@Corydon76> But it doesn't contain full details of their credit files, just things that people wanted fixed and removed.
16:03 <@Corydon76> And they can be generally useless for removing inaccurate data that some other company insists is accurate
16:05 <@Corydon76> Heh, Debian apparently just got around to revoking Equifax's SSL root certificates
16:55 <@Dagmar> Anyone know of a better way of detecting upstream availability than using traceroute with -m 2 -f 2 to 8.8.8.8?
16:55 <@Dagmar> Basically that'll just go two hops towards what will be upstream for 99.9% of stuff
17:00 < dc0de[m]> Use an iperf3 client?  Ddns client? Trace time.nist.gov?
17:12 <@Dagmar> I need something a little more lightweight than most of those
17:12 <@Dagmar> Traceroute should be on pretty much any Linux machine that has Cacti, and this seems to mostly work
17:13 <@Dagmar> Since this is basically a binary proposition of either getting a milliseconds figure or there's an error, I think it'll be good
17:36 <@Dagmar> ...and it's graphing
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19:06 <@Catonic> I used pfSense for that, but since it's BSD based, it's hard-headed about default routes and having one of them
19:06 <@Catonic> Connect to the BGP route reflector?
19:08 <@Catonic> Dagmar: do you actually have two ethernet connections?
19:09 <@Catonic> oh, bond can do some of that without looking like the pile of shit that is IPMP
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21:30 <@Dagmar> Catonic: Dude it's a cablemodem connectio
21:30 <@Dagmar> n
22:03 < K`Tetch> holy shit, I can do decent filming even when I'm technically asleep
22:04 <@Catonic> Dagmar: two of them?
22:04 <@Catonic> I'd turn nagios loose on that shit, set stalking, and record the ttl as a trend
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23:12 <@Dagmar> Catonic: Have you USED Nagios?
23:12 <@Dagmar> Nothing's that fucking simple with Nagios
23:12 <@Dagmar> Holy shit man
23:12 <@Dagmar> At the moment I'm using Cacti.
23:12 <@Dagmar> I already have Zabbix set up
23:13 <@Dagmar> What I'm trying to do is work out an actual mechanism that will get me a usable figure for whether latency is spiking, or the thing is just plain offline
23:20 <@Dagmar> Catonic: For reference, this is just ping.pl from Cacti cut up a bit, but it does work http://termbin.com/89kx
23:20 < PigBot> Dagmar: That URL appears to have no HTML title.
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