--- Log opened Wed Sep 27 00:00:01 2017
04:42 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: ping
05:47 < aestetix> https://www.wealthysinglemommy.com/dream-daughter-single-mom/
05:47 < aestetix> some people just should not be parents
06:38 < Catonic_> morning
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06:52 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:06 < k3ymkr> Good morning.
07:07  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
07:12 < k3ymkr> So...anyone here work on phreaknic.info?
07:15 < k3ymkr> Asking because they send you over to paypal as an iframe to submit your credit card.
07:15 < k3ymkr> So you're in an http site with an iframe to https, which obfuscates if you can trust the paypal site you see
07:16 < k3ymkr> You can pop it out if your browser supports, but that's not the best way to do that.
07:16 <@Evilpig> hahaha
07:16  * k3ymkr is a full time backseat webadmin
07:16 <@Evilpig> they stopped asking me for help several years ago
07:17 <@Evilpig> right about that time where they accused me of sabotaging their site 
07:17 <@Evilpig> they're on dreamhost so they have access to letsencrypt for free ssl.  so there is no reason that they should be using paypal in an iframe from http
07:18 < k3ymkr> Maybe I should have just gone to https, but they should have done that for me and used HSTS to ensure I stayed there.   Just trying to help, not mock.
07:18 <@Evilpig> there shouldn't be any reason that they aren't using the regular store functions
07:18 <@Evilpig> I'm out for mocking.
07:19 <@Evilpig> I know the answer!  Someone call jonnyx, that motherfucker is the messiah and has all the answers.
07:23 < aestetix> pope*
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07:34 < Synx_hm> yo yo peeps
07:34  * Evilpig stares blankly at Synx_hm 
07:35 <@Dolemite> I have no yo yo :(
07:35 < Synx_hm> kid got a shitty one at live on the green but it doesn't free spin at the bottom so no sweet walk the dog tricks
07:37 < Synx_hm> who wants to give me some VPS suggestions, i need a new VPS provider that offers KVM vps not OpenVZ so i can load modules into the kernel, want out of country and at least 1TB but would much prefer 2TB plus of BW on a 500+Mbps link
07:37 <@Dolemite> digital ocean
07:37 < Synx_hm> this is for VPN link for bittorrent traffic
07:38 <@Dolemite> never mind
07:38 < Synx_hm> ya ha
07:38 <@Dolemite> I thought you wanted it for a legitimate use, not hiding from Da Man
07:38 < Synx_hm> ha, i just dont want DMCA notices landing at my door
07:38 <@Dolemite> Stop using bittorrent
07:38 < Synx_hm> but i only use private trackers anyways still not worth the risk to do it from my home connection
07:39 <@Dolemite> I have my packets sent via USPS Priority Mail.  It only costs me $38,529 for a 1 hour TV show.
07:39 < Synx_hm> i spent most of yesterday playing with wireguard and am really impressed so i want to migrate to that, ive been less than happy with the OpenVPN-AS setup i have right now
07:39 < Synx_hm> lol
07:40 < Synx_hm> also im only paying 60euro per year for my VPS right now, 50GB drive, 2GB ram, 1Gbps link w/ 2TB BW per month
07:45 < Synx_hm> also totally unrelated, looking for a good wiki type setup to selfhost at home, tired of having to dig through txt files for network diagram notes etc, thinking docuwiki or perhaps paying for confluence
07:45 < Synx_hm> figured while i took a week off from work to recover from ball surgery on monday i could get some network cleanup done
07:49 <@Dolemite> ball surgery?  You got the snipperoo?
07:49 < aestetix> maybe it was a tattoo that went wrong
07:50 < Synx_hm> hrm, hetzner has CX20 VPS for 6.9euros per month, 2G ram, 50G hd, 1Gbps network link with 2.5TB per month BW
07:50 < Synx_hm> snipperoo
07:50 <@Dolemite> Best.   Copay.  Ever.
07:50 < Synx_hm> hahaha
07:50 < Synx_hm> we had a baby this year so did it while our deductible was met w00t!!!
07:50 <@Dolemite> Although your bits and pieces won't be quite the same afterwards
07:51 < aestetix> Dolemite: did you get a snip?
07:51 <@Dolemite> 8 years ago
07:51 < aestetix> how is it different?
07:51 <@Dolemite> It's just different
07:51 < Synx_hm> i've been living in constant fear since monday, the procedure really wasnt all that bad but im terrified im going to push out a fart too hard or sneeze and shoot a nut though the hole
07:52 < Synx_hm> that uneasy 'it doesnt hurt right now but im going to move as slow as i can to make sure it stays that way'
07:52 <@Dolemite> So for those who haven't been through it...   you are prescribed to jerk off every day for a month afterwards to clear out the bullets
07:52 <@Dolemite> That first one, you're not quite sure if it's going to hurt or not
07:52 < Synx_hm> did it?
07:53 < Synx_hm> i was terrified to pee and that was uneventful but im dreading the first tug fest
07:53 < Synx_hm> i guess they used to make you come back 3 times over 3-5 months to make sure you were certified sterile but now its only just once at 3 months, and best part they already gave me the collection cup so i dont have to do it in their office
07:53 <@Dolemite> IIRC, the first couple of times it was still a bit tender
07:54 < aestetix> Synx_hm: did you freeze some little guys for the future just in case?
07:54 <@Dolemite> But the weird part was feeling your muscles try to pump out your balls, but the tubes are now tied.  That's the different part.
07:55 < Synx_hm> aestetix, that thought occurred to me right after he cut the tube, thought about asking the dr to fish some of the dudes out
07:56 < Synx_hm> id like to think ill be good with the 2 kids i have for the rest of my life, but who knows what life will bring
07:57 <@Dolemite> Yeah, I'm 47 this year.  I have no desire to reset the clock on raising kids.
07:57 <@Dolemite> I have a moody enough tween already.
07:58 < aestetix> I guess you're not a fan of natural family planning
07:58 < K`Tetch> 08:38:50 «Synx_hm» but i only use private trackers anyways still not worth the risk to do it from my home connection <-- er, not what 'private' means
08:00 < Synx_hm> aestetix, im a fan of all family planning, especially the one where i know im sterile, have had prophylactics break before its not fun worrying about
08:00 < K`Tetch> 'private' in that context is just referring to the 'private flag', a DRM flag added to the protocol about 12 years ago. It makes you MORE vulnerable not less
08:02 < Synx_hm> K`Tetch, ? i mean private communities, while i agree that really doesn't make you any safer because who ever is on the swarm knows where you are the big corps seem to be mostly focused on the public trackers out there
08:03 < K`Tetch> big companies don't give a shit. and they'll often target the activity-logging trackers (what 'private trackers' used to be known as until they rebranded about 10 years ago) for thehardcore enforcement, ebcause it's so much easier to make a case, rather than a useless dmca notice
08:05 < K`Tetch> Remember, elitetorrents was busted within 48 hours of posting Revenge of the sith. And that was a 'top tier tracker' with all the protections they could have.
08:06 < Synx_hm> ive been on oink, what, btn, waffles, redacted, ahd, and never once been notified by my vps provider that they have received dmca notice, both oink and what were raided and taken down but i haven't heard of one case where a user there was targeted with legal action (not to say it didn't happen i just dont know of one)
08:07 < Synx_hm> anecdotally my uncle refuses to listen to me and continues to use trackers like piratebay and his ISP has now told him one more strike and they'll terminate his account so no interwebs at home for him
08:07 < aestetix> I probably don't torrent anything interesting enough to get those letters
08:08 < K`Tetch> I've used every site out there, for the last 15 years (both personally and for my job as torrentfreak's lead researcher) - only once has a notice ever found its way to me, and that was one that was over-zealous when I was swarm-measuring.notices are talked about more than gotten. its mostly porn, and one or two specific shows that get the letters
08:11 < Synx_hm> K`Tetch, so are you suggesting to just forgo sending my torrent traffic through a VPS VPN tunnel and just direct connect to the swarm from my home link?
08:11 <@Dolemite> I've gotten several over the years from my cable provider.  I no longer use torrents.  Usenet only.
08:12 < K`Tetch> if you're happy with yoru VPN use, keep it up - it keps support vpn providers
08:12 < k3ymkr> Had a debate the other day with a guy who pays "anonamously" for AWS, runs openvpn and torrents that way
08:13 < Synx_hm> Dolemite, also have usenet groupie myself but thats getting harder and harder as time goes on :(
08:13 <@Dolemite> how so?
08:14 < Synx_hm> Dolemite, all the indexers i used to be a member of disappeared :( and i got tired of having to find new ones and "donate" to get unlimited API hits
08:15 < Synx_hm> k3ymkr, that has got to cost a fortune? AWS BW aint cheap
08:15 <@Dolemite> Ah.  Well it's not that much to "donate" and I haven't had to move around.
08:15 < K`Tetch> Synx_hm - blame andrew cuomo
08:15 <@Dolemite> The only thing I've done is buy a backup block account from an alternate newsgroup provider for missing blocks.
08:16 <@Evilpig> K`Tetch: the last few months one of those groups monitoring torrents has gone rabbid.  in the last 8 years or so since I've been heavily doing all that I haven't gotten but maybe one letter ever
08:16 <@Evilpig> in the last three months... i've gotten nearly a dozen
08:16 <@Evilpig> really weird
08:16 <@Evilpig> hbo has paid them to monitor their shit better, for one
08:16 < Synx_hm> Dolemite, ya having a backup block account on a different provider was huge resolved almost all of my incomplete block issues
08:16 < K`Tetch> what were they targetting (so I can make sure if we need to add/change our torrent monitoring)
08:17 <@Dolemite> Yeh, I got one for Outlander, of all things.  I decided to check out the show and one episode...   just ONE...  was past the retention period on my newgroups.
08:17 <@Evilpig> one sec.  I have them flagged in sonarr as usenet only
08:17 <@Dolemite> A few years back I got a bunch for Legend of Korra.  I would have thought that was low priority monitoring.
08:17 <@Evilpig> hrmm  sonarr needs a search by tag function
08:18 <@Evilpig> The Last Ship - NBC is one
08:18 < Synx_hm> sonarr needs a 'tell tvdb to go fuck themselves and stop mucking about with incorrect scene show naming' button
08:18 <@Evilpig> Rick and Morty - Comedy Central is another
08:19 < K`Tetch> hmm, last ship, eh
08:19 <@Evilpig> Last Week Tonight with John Oliver
08:19 < Synx_hm> oh? ive been napping rick and morty from btn past few months but again all my traffic exits in Switzerland
08:19 <@Evilpig> I'm having to hunt and peck to find them.  when I got a notice I flagged it
08:20 < Synx_hm> Evilpig, how was comcast with the notice?
08:20 <@Evilpig> just a letter int he mail
08:20 < K`Tetch> no rush Evilpig
08:20 <@Evilpig> I was half concerned then I realized that they really don't care
08:20 <@Evilpig> in the end they have to deliver the notice saying they got it, but they want my money
08:20 < K`Tetch> the level of cncern depends on how the cox lawsuit ends up
08:21 < Synx_hm> so to my orig question haha, perhaps its worth the 60 or so euro a year to roll my own VPN on a VPS out of country
08:21 <@Evilpig> it might become worth it.  right now I don't see the point
08:21 < Synx_hm> i also use it while traveling and using public wifi or hotel wifi so thats a bonus
08:22 <@Evilpig> the other notices I got were for just released movies that I knew better
08:22 < Synx_hm> Evilpig, you only using private trackers?
08:23 < K`Tetch> I just noticed something (still waking up) "09:06:29 «Synx_hm» ive been on oink, what, btn, waffles, redacted, ahd, and never once been notified by my vps provider that they have received dmca notice" - if your provider keeps logs so they can tell you, thats not a provider you want for torrent use
08:23 <@Evilpig> Synx_hm: no.  I haven't been using private for a while
08:24 < Synx_hm> K`Tetch, its a VPS i control logging, but yes my VPS provider knows who i am and has my addr and billing info so i'd assume if they got a DMCA and cared enough to tell me they would know how to reach out to me, now do they log traffic egressing their network that i have no idea but im not looking to be anon so i dont really care
08:24 <@Evilpig> some of the public trackers I watch are starting to get noticed now which is the other issue
08:26 < K`Tetch> trackers don't get noticed, indexers carrying torrents that use it do :-)
08:26 < K`Tetch> also, if you do get sued, I know most of the area specialist lawyers, plus I'll give you 25% off my expert rate
08:27 < aestetix> god I hate uptalk
08:28 < Synx_hm> hahaha thanks K`Tetch
08:29 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWSAVboJuS0
08:29 < PigBot> Title: VIDEO TIP: down with upspeak! - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/y796uoel
08:33 <@_NSAKEY> Synx_hm: Use a Hetzner reseller. Hetzner doesn't give a fuck.
08:33 < aestetix> Hetzner is great
08:33 < aestetix> unless you need support
08:34 < aestetix> Does anyone in the south do uptalk? or is that crap only on the coasts
08:34 < aestetix> I also wonder if it's limited to universities
08:36 < Synx_hm> aestetix, you run into people who speak like that all the time? ive lived on both coasts and midwest and south and while i have heard people inflect like that and done it myself its only been to impart question into the dialog, i dont ever recall anybody speaking like that all the time when its not needed to impart cues into the dialog
08:37 < aestetix> I really, really, really hate it
08:37 < Synx_hm> ya that would drive me nuts, they few times on business conf calls ive heard something do that for no reason i always jump in with 'im ron burgundy?'
08:38 < aestetix> it's just
08:38 < aestetix> it makes people sound unconfident and childish
08:39 < aestetix> a bunch of the students were speaking it when I was at harvard
08:39 < aestetix> and I'm just like....dude... you're at harvard.... you should be pretty self assured
08:44 < aestetix> ls
08:44 < aestetix> oops
08:44 <@_NSAKEY> aestetix: At least you didn't type something like "mplayer clown-porn.mkv"
08:45 < aestetix> yeah dude I don't use shit like mplayer
08:51 < aestetix> Synx_hm: it's just really, really hard to take someone seriously who talks like that
08:52 < Synx_hm> yup completely agree it strips any level of confidence in what they are discussing, id argue the proper inflection has its uses but again its not useful nor productive to inflect like that 100% of the time
08:53 < aestetix> oh wow, trump just expanded his attack on fake news to facebook
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09:12 <@Corydon76> +
09:20 <@_NSAKEY> aestetix: And soon, he'll get to expand his fake news attack to 280 characters.
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09:23 < Synx_hm> bummer online.net had some good prices for a dedicated server, was thinking i could use it as a borg target too but i cant get above 100Mbps to their datacenter :(
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10:25 < aestetix> https://blog.twitter.com/official/en_us/topics/product/2017/Giving-you-more-characters-to-express-yourself.html
10:25 < PigBot> Title: Giving you more characters to express yourself (at blog.twitter.com) http://tinyurl.com/y8l93x33
10:30 < aestetix> because that's what twitter needs
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11:47 < k3ymkr> I thought maybe you could do signatures with the extra characters
11:48 < k3ymkr> But the best you could do would be an md5 hash and sig.
12:19 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: ping
12:28 <@_NSAKEY> aestetix: pong
12:52 <@dasunt> _NSAKEY: pung?
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13:53 < dc0de[m]> We should consider pooling all of our Usenet conections, and indexers...
13:53 <@Evilpig> we did
13:53 < dc0de[m]> I have several lifetime accounts with nzb indexers.
13:54 <@Evilpig> it's call pigflix
13:54 <@Evilpig> hahahaha
13:54 < dc0de[m]> Oh, I missed it. ;)
13:54 <@brimstone> k3ymkr: Proof-of-work twitter!
13:54 <@Evilpig> I'm gonna have to shuffle storage soon.  the tv section is outrgrowing its home.  need it to swap places with movies
13:54 < dc0de[m]> Oh, Evilpig, my Wife would like dancing w the stars season 25 please.
13:55 <@Evilpig> let me see what I can do.  I don't like getting that type of shit if I can't get it complete
13:55 <@brimstone> but, season 25
13:56 < dc0de[m]> I need new Plex/sab hardware, and until I get there, I'm stuck.
14:00 <@Evilpig> how the hell do they have 25 seasons?  that show started in 2005
14:00 <@Evilpig> are they doing two seasons a year?
14:01 < aestetix> http://nypost.com/2017/09/27/multiple-arrested-after-fight-inside-berkeleys-empathy-tent/amp/
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14:11 <@Evilpig> blah.  dc0de[m] those all contained my ignore term of "TBS" because they are an awful release group that classifies their tv rips as webdl
14:29 <@Dagmar> I trust ya'll saw this
14:29 <@Dagmar> https://medium.com/@thomasring/how-i-hacked-depauw-university-using-hidden-inputs-79377c3dca7e
14:29 < PigBot> Title: How I Hacked DePauw University Using Hidden Inputs – Hacker Noon (at medium.com) http://tinyurl.com/yames8ys
14:29 <@Dagmar> I'm seriously considering emailing that University
14:29 <@Dagmar> Threatening the guy at all is a non-starter, particularly for a university.
14:44 <@mog> the registration for phreaknic has the payment for paypal in an embedded frame....
14:45 <@Evilpig> damn mog, where were you earlier when that was being discussed / mocked?
14:45 <@mog> im mostly dead unfortunately
15:03 <@dasunt> So can someone tell Congress that if they don't help out PR, a bunch of democratic voters will move to the states where they can actually swing elections?
15:45 < dc0de[m]> Can't you? In busy
15:45 < dc0de[m]> I'm busy
15:59 <@Corydon76> dasunt: Don't be too sure.  Die-hard Catholics have a way of voting for pro-life candidates.
17:21 <@Dagmar> Corydon76: The HTTPs kicker should be handled in htaccess because it'll generate a 301 and make all the crawlers update their links to https
17:21 <@Dagmar> Doing it in Javascript, not so much
17:23 <@Dagmar> There's really no point in any of the site being HTTP anymore
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19:02 <@_NSAKEY> Dagmar: There are a ton of jokes involving chatbots and TLS that I'm leaving on the table.
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22:18 < aestetix> god
22:19 < aestetix> is it not possible for hetzner to do a network upgrade without fucking it up
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