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00:27 <@rattle> I'm helping these guys
00:27 <@rattle> https://www.gofundme.com/harvey-supplies-rescue
00:27 < PigBot> Title: Fundraiser by RJ Friedman : Harvey Supplies & Rescue (at www.gofundme.com) http://tinyurl.com/yc4m28p6
00:27 <@rattle> Donate
00:28 <@rattle> NOW
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02:33 < aestetix> ok so which thing am I supposed to freak out about
02:33 < aestetix> the hurricane or north korea?
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06:29 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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08:19 < Synx_hm> read this title this morning as a joke that bud/budlight is basically water
08:19 < Synx_hm> http://www.kcrg.com/content/news/Anheuser-Busch-sending-150000-cans-of-water-to-Harvey-victims-442104763.html
08:19 < PigBot> Title: Anheuser-Busch sending 150,000 cans of water to Harvey victims (at www.kcrg.com) http://tinyurl.com/y8lp3mgg
08:48 <@Evilpig> is that before they do their process to it to call it beer?
08:48 < Synx_hm> the can labeling process?
08:48 <@Evilpig> doh!  I just saw your comment before the link, I just saw the url title
09:05 < Synx_hm> ya sorry poor comedic timing on my part there
09:05 < Synx_hm> anybody watching game of thrones?
09:10 <@Evilpig> nope
09:10 <@Evilpig> i'm trying really hard to watch american dad but comcast is working even harder to thwart my efforts
09:12 < Synx_hm> ha
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09:34 <@Mirage> Synx_hm: GoT...only 7 episodes...wtf
09:34 < aestetix> I wonder what happens when everyone sees the beer logo, and finds out its just water
09:39 <@Dagmar> They'll usually just bitch about not being a fan of light beers and drink it anyway
09:41 < Synx_hm> well because no beer is worse than shit beer, but ill avoid it if i can
09:41 < aestetix> lol
09:43 <@dasunt> Mirage: 6 episodes next (final) season.
09:46 < Synx_hm> Mirage, get the feeling they installed a hyperloop across all of westeros for this season
09:46 <@dasunt> That's been a problem for several seasons now.
09:48 < Synx_hm> the last ep 7 it got out of control
09:48 < Synx_hm> i had a hard time keeping up
09:48 <@dasunt> Ep 7 wasn't too bad.  Most of the time I figure time is passing and we aren't shown it, and storylines are out of sync.
09:49 < Synx_hm> ya
09:49 <@dasunt> Ep 6 now...  Just how fast do Ravens and Dragons fly?
09:49 < Synx_hm> just a bit jarring
09:49 < Synx_hm> ya ha
09:50 <@Mirage> Yeah..they did seem to get from the 'South' to the 'North' and back again pretty quickly
09:50 <@Dolemite> You can pretty much track the hyperloop travel to the parts when they left the books.  That's when they went from adaptation to working off of an outline of highlights.
09:51 <@dasunt> There's also the "lets cut out parts of the story and stitch things back together poorly".
09:52 <@Mirage> Yeah..I was wondering if that was part of it.   I'd read that this season was cathing up to teh books
09:52 <@Dolemite> Season 7 is completely past the books
09:52 <@Dolemite> Only about 1/3 of Season 6 had counterparts in the books
09:53 <@dasunt> Well, unless Young Griff has a heart attack, it's likely he'll have a Dorne/Stormlands alliance going, at least.
09:53 <@Dolemite> Yet another character that doesn't exist in the TV series
09:53 <@dasunt> Yep.
09:54 <@dasunt> Dorne apparently no longer exists in the TV series either.  :/
09:55 <@Dolemite> yeah, it had a lot of potential, too
09:55 <@Dolemite> yay, time for another meeting
09:55 <@dasunt> AFAICT, Dorne should still have an army untouched by war (Yara's ships were attacked before they reached Dorne).
09:56 <@dasunt> Also, Edmure Tully has disappeared.
09:57 <@dasunt> It's rather annoying, considering that the plotting in the books is what made them good.  Now we're just getting a visually stunning but crappy plotted ending of zombies vs dragons.
10:02 <@Dagmar> o.O
10:05 <@Dagmar> People are being killed
10:06 <@Dagmar> Are you not entertained?
10:06 <@dasunt> I want more story!
10:08 <@dasunt> LOL:  Police arrested him for massive credit card fraud, but he was only trying to smuggle money out of Iran and into the US:  https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/6wprlr/caught_in_a_federal_us_nv_tn_case_for_wire_fraud/
10:08 < PigBot> Title: Caught in a federal (US, NV, TN ) case for wire fraud/ mail fraud, identity theft, creating fake cards, scapegoated : legaladvice (at www.reddit.com) http://tinyurl.com/ybtbtyak
10:10 <@Dagmar> How is that hard?
10:13 <@dasunt> I just love how the poster apparently doesn't realize that they couldn't have been committing credit card fraud because they thought they were engaged in smuggling is an actual defense.
10:14 <@dasunt> Er, isn't an actual defense.
10:15 <@Dagmar> I don't think thye were engaged in fraud, but they were looking to evade an embargo
10:15 <@Dagmar> ...but this is basically the shit cryptocurrencies were "born" for
10:15 <@dasunt> I don't think they were engaged in fraud either, at least not knowing engaged.
10:16 <@dasunt> OTOH, evading the embargo isn't something I'd admit to anyone in law enforcement without talking to a lawyer first.
10:27 <@Dagmar> Damnit
10:27 <@Dagmar> https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/south-korea-north-korea-heavy-bombs-border-38th-parallel-pyongyang-japan-hokkaido-moon-jae-in-a7917496.html
10:27 < PigBot> Title: South Korea drops eight heavy bombs near North Korea border to show 'overwhelming force' | The Independent (at www.independent.co.uk) http://tinyurl.com/y7nwdxu6
10:30 <@Dagmar> They are _going_ to be going to war with each other now
10:32 <@dasunt> Trump says "all options are on the table".
10:35 <@Dagmar> Trump should stay the fuck out of it
10:36 <@dasunt> Agreed.  But he won't.
10:39 < Synx_hm> more like he should keep his mouth shut before he escalates something out of control, he needs to shut his mouth and listen to his chiefs of staff
10:42 <@dasunt> Yes.
10:42 <@dasunt> Instaed, we have a president that can be trolled by NK.
10:43 < Synx_hm> yup, and its going to get 10million people killed if somebody on his cabinet doesn't step in and check his ego
10:44 <@Dagmar> I would prefer it if my next Samsung glowed vie LED power, not radium
10:44 <@Dagmar> a/vie/via/
10:52 < Synx_hm> Dagmar, interesting to note those were F-15K slam eagles, those are ROKAF jets not USAF jets. Also i've dropped quite a many bombs in restricted area up there, its not abnormal saber raddling; the square surrounded by MOAs, note the restricted area goes from the surface (GND) to FL250
10:52 < Synx_hm> http://www.ravico.com/ST/BMS_433/Map/ONC_kneemap_korea_4096_print.jpg
10:55 < Synx_hm> i am unsure of the age of that ONC btw so perhaps those two MOAs right along the DMZ changed to restricted range status from sfc up
10:56 < Synx_hm> ha thats from falcon 4 flightsim but it closely resembles what i recall of the real MOA/range complex up there
10:59 < Synx_hm> https://skyvector.com/?ll=37.55531991263088,128.11614989145923&chart=302&zoom=3
10:59 < PigBot> Title: SkyVector: Flight Planning / Aeronautical Charts (at skyvector.com) http://tinyurl.com/y9h8p7uf
12:22 <@Dagmar> I don't care if it's "normal" saber-rattling or not
12:23 <@Dagmar> This was a pretty specific way of rattling a saber
12:23 <@Dagmar> ...and Kim's fuckin' crazy.
12:23 <@Dagmar> I do not think he understands the miniscule size of the anthill he is god-emperor of.
12:24 <@Dagmar> China could walk in there _unarmed_ and they'd run out of bullets before China would consider it a heavy loss
12:28 <@Dagmar> If Obama were still in office, all that would take is him asking China _nicely_ once NK crosses the line
12:28 <@Dagmar> Trump?  Nope.  He's pissing everyone off.
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13:28 < Synx_hm> agreed, trump is making a huge mess of it
15:30 <@dasunt> Well, it is Trump
15:35 <@rattle> There are no good military options for the DPRK.
15:35 <@rattle> As in, against them..
15:36 <@rattle> They can do crazy damage to Seoul before we could stop them.
15:36 <@rattle> Even without nukes.
15:52 <@dasunt> Agreed.  This will take diplomacy.
15:52 <@dasunt> OTOH, there's no good military options for the DPRK that isn't either (a) sabre rattling or (b) threatens to escalate badly.
16:04 < K`Tetch> are you going to dragoncon, dasunt? bcause it sounds like you'd love the NSDM
16:09 <@dasunt> Nope, I can't.
16:10 <@Corydon76> rattle: What's the current kill rate for the missile defense system we've deployed in South Korea?
16:10 <@Corydon76> Are we anywhere near 99%?
16:17 < K`Tetch> shame dasunt - the war college deals with these kinds of questions.
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17:37 <@rattle> I don't think the full stats are public.  I know the last few tests were all successful.  The system is still under development though.
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19:59 < dc0de[m]> Corydon76: the system can be safely given a fifty percent kill ratio. Any other info is bullshit
20:54 <@dasunt> Don't the Israelis have a better success rate with Iron Dome or whatever they call it?
20:54 <@dasunt> Admittedly, a RBM flies faster, but it should be in the air for longer as well...  Dunno how that balances.
21:03 <@Dagmar> Well, we loaned them the money so they could buy it from us
21:11 <@dasunt> Remember, that's not corporate welfare, it's foreign aid!
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