--- Log opened Thu Aug 24 00:00:53 2017 06:47 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 06:49 * aestetix hugs Dolemite 06:52 * Dolemite lets out a little fart 06:52 < aestetix> https://twitter.com/_Cooper/status/900399498966568960 06:52 < PigBot> Title: Cooper Fleishman on Twitter: "My old roommate got suspended from twitter for sexually harassing Tony the Tiger. https://t.co/Uanah3oiNu" (at twitter.com) http://tinyurl.com/ydbouty3 07:00 <@_NSAKEY> At least we now know that Twitter's Trust & Safety team isn't sympathetic to furries. 07:01 <@_NSAKEY> In all seriousness, that's a pretty silly thing to suspend someone over. 07:02 < aestetix> You could tweet about it, then get suspended by twitter, then make a youtube video complaining about twitter, and get suspended by youtube 07:04 <@_NSAKEY> Twitter's heavy-handedness is why I went easy when I trolled one of the locals into a frenzy a few months back. 07:15 -!- cyberanger [~cyberange@swissknife/adak/infocop411] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.5+deb1 - http://znc.in] 07:30 < aestetix> here's a proposal for a PhreakNIC talk someone should do 07:30 < aestetix> how to get your twitter account suspended 07:31 < aestetix> set up a few accounts and try saying different offensive things, see which ones result in suspension 07:33 <@_NSAKEY> aestetix: Sounds like something you should do. 07:40 < xray> but what's the value of it 07:41 < xray> Unless your trying to do a black box analysis of their banning algorithm. 07:42 < xray> Which would be valueless once discovered because it is constantly changing 08:34 < aestetix> oh wow 08:34 < aestetix> Trump just attacked Clapper publicly 08:35 < aestetix> https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/900708110330978304 08:35 < PigBot> Title: Donald J. Trump on Twitter: "James Clapper, who famously got caught lying to Congress, is now an authority on Donald Trump. Will he show you his beautiful letter to me?" (at twitter.com) http://tinyurl.com/ydb9cslh 08:37 <@brimstone> and twitter won't suspend donald's account 08:38 < aestetix> well clearly sexually harassing Tony the Tiger is more dangerous than risking a nuclear war with North Korea 09:27 < Synx_hm> happy child care crisis day 09:28 < Synx_hm> 2nd day at infant care, very not pleased, wife walked in to weeping lead in parking lot who just had gotten fired she had less that nice things to say about how the place was being run, and we already had a bad feeling 09:28 < Synx_hm> good think child care is so easy to find here 09:33 <@Dolemite> Full time child care is a nightmare 09:33 <@Dolemite> The only places not focused on profit are the mothers day out programs, or preschool programs, that are run by churches. All the commercial ones are just that - COMMERCIAL. 09:34 < Synx_hm> ya 09:34 < Synx_hm> we lucked out with our 4 year old and my wife stayed home for the first year then did mothers day out few times a week and he landed in a great local place but infant care has got me stressing the fuck out 09:39 < Synx_hm> re: potus, im curious 50 years from now how we will look back on this time, how will this presidency be discussed/taught in schools, how will it truly compare to all our past and future potus choices 09:41 < K`Tetch> I ended up staying home, looking after my kids and at one point, had two similarly aged kids of my wife's co-workers too 09:43 < Synx_hm> i work from home its not totally un-possible but im on constant conf calls that demand my participation, i have a hard enough time doing it with just my wife at home ha 09:47 < Synx_hm> we had our 4 year old on the pre-k wait list 09:47 < Synx_hm> got a call the day before school started, he got into the school at the top of our list 09:48 < Synx_hm> so we rush to the parent teacher meet, and find out there are zero provisions for familys accepted on wait lists for after/before care 09:48 < Synx_hm> and obviously all the before/after care programs have long been filled 09:49 < Synx_hm> had a chat with the principle simply stating, look we had zero way to know if/where we might have gotten accepted and as such no way to pre-register for any after/before care, we really want to take him here but we dont think its going to be possible without some after care program 09:49 < Synx_hm> its a fucking 40min drive one way down nolensville every morning 09:50 < Synx_hm> i guess the principle did some thinking and made their in house after care program accept us 09:57 <@Dolemite> So I've been a CrashPlan user for ages... now that they're getting out of the consumer market, I'm debating my options. I can upgrade to a business account or just build a huge NAS from some ebay finds and a boat load of hard drives and back up locally. 10:01 < xray> Backblaze has a decent backup service but no Linux client 10:02 < xray> Duplicati looks interesting https://www.duplicati.com/ 10:02 < PigBot> Title: Duplicati (at www.duplicati.com) http://tinyurl.com/y7tstl9k 10:02 < xray> but you need some sort of storage 10:02 < xray> DropBox would work and it supports all platforms 10:02 < xray> I use CrashPlan as well. 10:02 <@Dolemite> yeah, I need linux because all I'm doing is backing up my giant fileserver at the house 10:03 < Synx_hm> xray, i looked into duplicati for quite a while 10:03 < Synx_hm> i chose borg instead 10:03 <@Dolemite> Holy shit, why would anybody switch to Carbonite!? It's way more expensive than Crashplan Pro. 10:03 < Synx_hm> Dolemite, how much data roughly? 10:03 < xray> CrashPlan for business is cheaper than Carbonite 10:03 <@Dolemite> I'll probably just convert to Crashplan Pro since it's only 1 machine I'm backing up and I'm not even close to the 5 TB included. 10:04 <@Dolemite> I think I'm backing up 2.1TB or so 10:04 < Synx_hm> k 10:04 < Synx_hm> whats your transport look like, because that could be a huge factor in migrating to somewhere else haha 10:04 <@Dolemite> So I could just get a WD 8TB drive and run incremental backups to it, but if the house burns down all my data is gone 10:04 < Synx_hm> unless you can exfil cloud to cloud 10:04 < Synx_hm> Dolemite, are the backups deduped? 10:04 <@Dolemite> I can convert to CrashPlan Pro easily 10:04 < Synx_hm> i took 2TB of backups down to 500GB with borg dedup 10:05 <@Dolemite> Synx_hm: It's unique data. I'm not doing OS level backup, just the data. 10:05 < Synx_hm> same, but my backups are a bit of a mess of same copies of photos etc between my wife and i 10:06 < Synx_hm> btw borg is block level dedup not just file level 10:06 < Synx_hm> anyways, google gsuite business, $10 per month, and technically their TOS says you need 5 users (each at $10) to qualify for unlimited storage they do not enforce that 10:07 < Synx_hm> depends on how much you trust google to not pull an amazon and say 'hey remember that umlimited storage we sold you, ya its not unlimited anymore' 10:07 <@Dolemite> I've already got GSuite, but a grandfathered free setup for <=50 users 10:07 < Synx_hm> i got that email right after i uploaded 15TB to amazon cloud 10:07 < Synx_hm> Dolemite, thats gapps 10:07 <@Dolemite> True 10:07 < Synx_hm> i didn't think old gapps had unlimited storage 10:07 <@Dolemite> But $50/month is more than I want to spend 10:08 <@Dolemite> gapps doesn't have unlimited 10:08 <@Dolemite> I've got 150 GB on Google Drive 10:08 <@Dolemite> per user 10:08 < Synx_hm> understood, what i was trying to say was they dont enforce that, so lots of people on /r/datahoarder are only paying $10 per month and getting unlimited 10:08 <@Dolemite> ah 10:08 <@Dolemite> but they could switch to enforce any day 10:08 <@Dolemite> then you're having to scramble 10:09 < Synx_hm> yup thats my concern as well 10:09 < Synx_hm> i head glacier changed to a different pricing scheme for data transport i need to look back into it 10:09 < Synx_hm> also lots of people swear by backblaze b2 10:10 < Synx_hm> google also has their nearline platform but again data transport god forbid you ever need to get your data back is not cheap 10:10 < Synx_hm> but perhaps in a true backup only setup thats an acceptable cost 10:10 < Synx_hm> i dont have much faith in any company that offers 'unlimited' data to consumers in this market, its not sustainable as evidenced by crashplan 10:11 < Synx_hm> what i would really like to do is get a pool of people here in the chan that are on gigabit 10:11 < Synx_hm> and dont mind hosting or already have a zfs or other production quality system 10:11 <@Dolemite> Oh, never mind, I misread. CrashPlan Pro is still going to be unlimite 10:11 < K`Tetch> then have them put cantenna's pointing at the Hilton for next weekend? 10:12 <@Dolemite> er, unlimited storage. They simply charge per device. 10:12 < Synx_hm> then dedup and encrypt and host eachothers data 10:12 <@Dolemite> Simple enough. I'm already set to continue. 10:12 < K`Tetch> Synx_hm - a bit like freenet then? 10:13 < Synx_hm> ya, there are quite a few similar p2p file storage offerings i think, but i dont know how the model or if its possible to assure you data is always at least in one other place 10:13 <@Dolemite> Synx_hm: The market players simply have to find the right pricepoint that is sustainable. At $50/year, unlimited didn't make any money for them. Now by forcing you to $10/device/month, it has a better shot of being sustainable. 10:14 < Synx_hm> ya, amazon figured out damn fast they fucked up with ACD haha, but perhaps thats more to do with the assholes putting up petabytes of porn for no good reason 10:14 < K`Tetch> well, freenet's a darknet, but i meant similar in execution 10:14 < Synx_hm> like do we really need a fucking historical record of every porn/live stream that exists on the interwebs 10:15 < K`Tetch> depends on the star... ;-P 10:15 < Synx_hm> K`Tetch, ya i got the context 10:15 <@Dolemite> Synx_hm: Only the midget porn, but Evilpig already has a backup of that 10:16 < K`Tetch> ok, I figured better make sure, since its this early in the morning 10:16 < Synx_hm> i feel like some of the people in /r/datahoarder do it to themselves haha, 'hey guys look i found the way to cheap to be sustainable cloud storage provider, i just uploaded eleventy petabytes of youtube streams, everybody jump on board' 10:16 < Synx_hm> K`Tetch, its appreciated, i was up late, and im not always so smart when reading text and inferring intent/context 10:17 < Synx_hm> most of them migrated ACD to gsuite, wonder how long gsuite will allow the unlimited with only one user 10:18 < Synx_hm> K`Tetch, https://storj.io seemed interesting when i looked into it last year 10:18 < PigBot> Title: Storj - Decentralized Cloud Storage (at storj.io) http://tinyurl.com/y6vy5bj6 10:18 < K`Tetch> interesting 10:19 < Synx_hm> its a really interesting idea at least, but they dont seem to be getting much traction 10:20 < Synx_hm> also whats that p2p file system... 10:20 < Synx_hm> ipfs 10:20 < Synx_hm> but you have to convince others to subscribe to your data to keep it alive/redundant 10:20 < xray> Backblaze is a lot cheaper https://www.backblaze.com/b2/cloud-storage-pricing.html 10:21 < PigBot> Title: Cloud Storage Pricing Comparison: Amazon S3 vs Azure vs B2 (at www.backblaze.com) http://tinyurl.com/puah54e 10:22 < xray> Duplicati and Backblaze B2 might be a good solution 10:22 < Synx_hm> S3 is not backup its live storage and priced as such, B2 is priced more to the backup market and honestly backblaze is doing some amazing shit in the storage word and they seem really community focused and transparent, i pay great attention to their quarterly harddrive reliability reports 10:23 < Synx_hm> i would highly suggest anybody considering duplicati to also look at borg 10:23 < xray> Backblaze would rule if they had a Linux backup client 10:23 < Synx_hm> borg and rclone get you onto b2 with ease iirc 10:24 < Synx_hm> https://rclone.org/b2/ 10:24 < PigBot> Title: B2 (at rclone.org) http://tinyurl.com/ya6kv84x 10:24 < xray> Borg is not supported on Windows 10:24 < Synx_hm> i used rclone to get my borg archive onto ACD with ease 10:24 < xray> Duplicati is Linux/Mac/Windows 10:25 < Synx_hm> xray, on that note borg in WLS? 10:25 < xray> What is WLS? 10:25 < Synx_hm> probably got that wrong, windows linux subsystem? that ubuntu on windows shit 10:25 < xray> Their page says it will not run on the Windows Linux Subsystem 10:26 < xray> Linux Subsystem of Windows 10 (not supported) https://github.com/borgbackup/borg 10:26 < Synx_hm> ahh thanks i was just about to apt-get it on wls ha 10:26 < PigBot> Title: GitHub - borgbackup/borg: Deduplicating archiver with compression and authenticated encryption. (at github.com) http://tinyurl.com/nvbm7ez 10:26 < Synx_hm> bummer indeed 10:26 < xray> So why is Borg better than Duplicati 10:27 < Synx_hm> i know its better because of how it is 10:27 < xray> That is a bit vague 10:28 < Synx_hm> ;) seriously though, its been a while since i made my choice so let me do some digging again but my general feel was that of a more trusted solution i felt 15 years from now i could find install and just know my backups would still be accessible 10:28 < xray> Backup technology is always a moving target so data must be migrated on occasion 10:29 < Synx_hm> agreed i just wanted something that felt as long term as attic (which borg is basically a fork of) 10:29 < xray> They only problem is when you have limited bandwidth and large data stores 10:29 < Synx_hm> also im not sure about duplicaiti but i also wanted to run on BSD variants 10:33 < xray> 1TB of free storage https://www.transip.nl/stack/ 10:33 < PigBot> Title: TransIP | STACK - Van jou: 1000GB gratis opslag (at www.transip.nl) http://tinyurl.com/p2jed4s 10:34 < xray> May not allow registration outside of Netherlands 10:34 < xray> :( 10:43 < Synx_hm> xray, here is a chart comparison of borg to duplicati not sure how current it is 10:43 < Synx_hm> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Synchronization_and_backup_programs 10:43 < PigBot> Title: Synchronization and backup programs - ArchWiki (at wiki.archlinux.org) http://tinyurl.com/zw6tl5u 10:44 < Synx_hm> also that rsync.net had a borg target cheaper than their other offerings was a big sway for me (even though im not sure i want to actually pay for rsync.net storage ha) 10:45 < Synx_hm> having a provider that has a remote target like that is huge as you dont have to store any part of the archive locally then to get useable diff and status data 10:47 < Synx_hm> https://borgbackup.readthedocs.io/en/stable/quickstart.html#remote-repositories 10:47 < PigBot> Title: Quick Start Borg - Deduplicating Archiver 1.0.11 documentation (at borgbackup.readthedocs.io) http://tinyurl.com/ybuwfvbt 10:54 < xray> I have a dreamhost account so what about storing my backups there 10:54 < xray> maybe not "File upload / sharing / archive / backup / mirroring / distribution sites." 10:54 < xray> https://www.dreamhost.com/legal/unlimited-policy/ 10:55 < PigBot> Title: Unlimited Policy DreamHost (at www.dreamhost.com) http://tinyurl.com/op2wwwj 10:55 < Synx_hm> ha, anything cheap enough for us plebs to afford likely means breaking actual TOS 10:56 < Synx_hm> i have a couple far away VPSs that i tunnel a subset of my local traffic through, breaking all their TOS but they've yet to shut me down 10:56 < Synx_hm> and its cheap enough i dont care 10:59 < Synx_hm> btw, rsync.net has special borg/attic pricing 10:59 < Synx_hm> http://rsync.net/products/attic.html 10:59 < PigBot> Title: rsync.net Cloud Storage for Offsite Backups (at rsync.net) http://tinyurl.com/hbqsx9s 11:01 < Synx_hm> 3cents per gig might be cheaper than s3 but its not going to remote compete with a crashplan 11:02 < Synx_hm> cheaper than s3 when you factor in transit that is 11:02 < Synx_hm> as rsync.net does not charge any transit fees 11:05 < Synx_hm> looking at B2 again it might just be the winner i go with, forgo the pointlessness of storing 10TB of media in the cloud and just put on about 1TB of truly critical data like family photos documents etc 11:08 < Synx_hm> though... i wonder what a aws glacier + s3 + e2c borg setup might cost, borg server on e2c (i think e2c to any other aws platform transit is free), store archive metadata/cache on s3 for real time diff/status access, put actual archive on glacier 11:08 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ac80:d900:697a:d834:e1d0:1dc] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:09 < Synx_hm> err ec2 11:11 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ac80:d900:445e:2b7f:bf13:f9db] has joined #se2600 11:11 < Synx_hm> this might be an interesting read; https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13694079 11:11 < PigBot> Title: Ask HN: Whats your backup setup? | Hacker News (at news.ycombinator.com) http://tinyurl.com/zjkabho 11:12 <@brimstone> i use hubic, https://hubic.com/home/new/?referral=NMHCZF, €50/yr for 10TB, no transit cost. then i use rclone https://rclone.org/ with local encryption 11:12 < PigBot> Title: hubiC - OVH (at hubic.com) http://tinyurl.com/yaq8sfae 11:15 < Synx_hm> brimstone, what sort of wan link do you have, and are you able to saturate it up to hubic? 11:16 <@brimstone> 60/10, i *think* i can saturate it going out, but the bigger problem is reading from disk 11:17 <@brimstone> it takes rclone and my RAID setup about 30 minutes to verify 6TB --- Log closed Thu Aug 24 11:27:39 2017 --- Log opened Thu Aug 24 11:33:27 2017 11:33 -!- Evilpig [~wilpig@96-80-184-99-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #se2600 11:33 -!- Irssi: #se2600: Total of 36 nicks [18 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 18 normal] 11:33 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Evilpig] by ChanServ 11:33 -!- Irssi: Join to #se2600 was synced in 14 secs 11:33 <@dasunt> At this point, does bitcoin even pretend to be a digital currency? 11:34 <@dasunt> E.g. something you'd use to pay for a lunch or a transaction at a gas station? 11:35 < Synx_hm> you mean like the 10,000 BTC for a pizza guy? 11:35 < Synx_hm> ha 11:35 <@dasunt> Yep. 11:36 < Synx_hm> i had $300 US half way into BTC when it was well below a dollar per BTC, gave up half way into the process as it was a huge pain in the ass to get money in at the time 11:36 < Synx_hm> really kicking myself for that 11:36 <@dasunt> I was reading how it took 2 days for a BTC transaction to verify for what would have been a 9USD purchase. 11:36 <@Dolemite> dasunt: Yep, I read the same article this morning 11:36 <@Dolemite> The "transaction fee" was not high enough to get priority for processing 11:37 <@dasunt> Wasn't it the equiv of 0.50USD? 11:37 <@Dolemite> Yeah 11:37 <@dasunt> 5.6% of total purchase price 11:38 <@Dolemite> Which is already double what Visa charges 11:39 <@dasunt> Seems not workable, as a currency. 11:41 <@dasunt> Synx_hm: 300 BTC * $4000/BTC = $1,200,000. 11:41 <@dasunt> :( 11:43 <@Dagmar> This is where the bitcoin maximalists have shot themselves in the foot. 11:43 <@Dagmar> Since the transaction fee is a fractional bitcoin amount, with BTC in the $4000 range, it's just about useless for anything like a microtransaction. 11:44 <@Dagmar> ...and most of the miners are apparently _very_ into collecting as much of a processing fee as they can. 11:44 <@Dagmar> Larger block sizes might mean faster transactions, but it also meant they were no longer going to be getting nearly as much of a cut just for logging the transaction to the blockchain. 11:45 <@Dagmar> LTC and Ethereum on the other hand... Still fast, still cheap to process. 11:48 < Synx_hm> dasunt, i didn't need to see that math --- Log closed Thu Aug 24 11:50:53 2017 --- Log opened Thu Aug 24 11:56:21 2017 11:56 -!- Evilpig [~wilpig@96-80-184-99-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #se2600 11:56 -!- Irssi: #se2600: Total of 36 nicks [18 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 18 normal] 11:56 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Evilpig] by ChanServ 11:56 -!- Irssi: Join to #se2600 was synced in 14 secs 11:57 <@Dagmar> People using BTC as a "store of value" probably didn't give a rats ass that it went below $1000, because they still bought in before that point and are hodlers 11:57 < Synx_hm> say im selling computers in BTC, if today its $4000 and tomorrow its $1000 i had better keep a close watch on the value and update my price accordingly or im going to be in the business of giving shit away for free when it goes back up to $4000 an hour later 11:57 <@Dagmar> That's only because you're attempting to operate across currencies 11:57 <@Dagmar> If you were paying all your bills denominated in BTC amounts, you wouldn't give a shit 11:58 <@dasunt> Dagmar: Here's another question - say you sell a house, and you are planning to buy a new house in 18 months. You have the choice of taking the payment in BTC or USD, but you must hold it in whatever currency for the full 18 months. What do you chose? 11:58 < Synx_hm> Dagmar, oh i think i see what you are saying now 11:58 < Synx_hm> but that can be argued for any fiat 11:58 <@Dagmar> Synx_hm: If you were taking your payments in Venezuelan monkey dollars, and operating in USD, you'd be well and truly fucked 11:59 <@Dagmar> dasunt: Probably 33% BTC, 33% ethereum, and 33% litecoin. 11:59 < Synx_hm> i mean say BTC is newks cups, so long as i only operate my life buying and selling in newks plastic cups who gives a shit what the actual value is because we all agree it has x value at the moment 12:00 < Synx_hm> but in a world of currency conversions which is the world we live in BTC is too volatile for business to accept as payment for service/goods rendered? 12:00 <@Dagmar> Yes. At least the cryptocurrency supply isn't controlled by people who make sure they get their cut of wealth _first_ and everyone else can go fuck themselves. 12:00 < Synx_hm> on the note of newks if you all want to get on board ill be rich i have an entire cabinet dedicated to newks cups 12:00 <@Dagmar> Cryptocurrency supplies are controlled by fuckin' mathematics 12:00 <@Corydon76> Synx_hm: essentially, the question isn't whether a currency is volatile in relation to other currencies, but whether it's volatile in relation to purchase transactions 12:02 < Synx_hm> Corydon76, but doesn't it have to be, as a business unless you deal solely in BTC etc you are doing conversion, and is that really even possible today? 12:02 <@Corydon76> As long as you treat BTC as a commodity relative to dollars, you're going to see its value as volatile 12:02 <@dasunt> ...relative to the dollar, to the pound, to the euro, to the yen, etc. 12:02 <@Dagmar> Cross-chain transactions are generally much more stable 12:02 < xray> brimstone: If I read the fine print on huibiC correctly 10TB is about $60 per year and it's cross platform app like 12:03 < xray> dropbox 12:03 < xray> so I could point Duplicati at it to backup all my systems 12:03 <@brimstone> yeah, €50/yr, $60/yr, whatev 12:04 <@brimstone> they have an app, but i don't use it 12:04 <@Dagmar> Also, USD doesn't go chikkun run when Trump/Kim run their fucking mouths 12:04 <@brimstone> i just use it like block storage 12:04 < xray> That is cheaper than everything I have seen so far 12:04 <@Dagmar> LTC and Ethereum in particular make a jump every time one of those guys says something stupid to each other 12:04 < xray> How do you mount it 12:04 < xray> if you don't use their app 12:05 <@brimstone> i don't "mount" it, i use rclone to copy things in and out 12:05 <@Corydon76> Synx_hm: where Bitcoin is likely to be seen as nonvolatile is in terms of service purchase transaction. Suppose a programmer wished to be paid in Bitcoin, and set a particular rate. Now you're looking at having sufficient Bitcoin to pay him and you start looking at trading at a favorable rate sufficient to pay him in the future when Bitcoin has an inflated value, which translates to a smaller investment to you 12:05 <@brimstone> rclone has a fuse thingy though, but i haven't tried it 12:05 < xray> so rclone doesn't do versioning 12:05 < Synx_hm> xray, brimstone though rclose does have fuse but i dont recall if its out of beta 12:06 < Synx_hm> xray, think of rclone as rsync for cloud 12:06 <@brimstone> nah, rclone doesn't version 12:06 <@Corydon76> Not by itself lesser volatility, but as people start seeing it as a currency method, it will become less volatile 12:06 < xray> interesting 12:06 < xray> thanks, I'll do some more digging 12:06 < Synx_hm> written in go too ;) 12:07 < Synx_hm> xray, the typical rclone work flow is, x-backup-tool -> archive -> rclone archive to x cloud storage 12:07 < Synx_hm> though it does have encryption so perhaps one could use it to just cp up to the cloud 12:09 < Synx_hm> MIT licensed to boot 12:11 < xray> ExpanDrive can mount hubiC http://www.expandrive.com/apps/expandrive/ 12:11 < PigBot> Title: ExpanDrive Network Drive for SFTP, Dropbox, Google Drive, S3, OneDrive, Box, Amazon, Backblaze and more | ExpanDrive for Mac & Windows (at www.expandrive.com) http://tinyurl.com/pf366gq 12:11 < xray> no linux client yet though 12:13 < xray> Duplicati appears to natively support hubiC as a target https://translate.google.co.uk/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fen.ve-hotech.com%2Fforum%2Fprintthread.php%3Ftid%3D2932&edit-text= 12:13 < PigBot> Title: Google Translate (at translate.google.co.uk) http://tinyurl.com/ybfcbr6t 12:17 < Synx_hm> i have graduated to 50 unsaved tabs in notepad++ 12:17 < Synx_hm> yay me 12:19 < Synx_hm> is oracle still bundling some shitty browser toolbar in the java install package? 12:19 <@Dolemite> I'm sure they're still bundling some shitty something. No clue what the current shitty thing is. 12:20 <@Dolemite> Oh, yeah, java is the shitty thing. LOL 12:20 < xray> Once you have Java installed you can set an option to not install the crap ware for all updates 12:21 < Synx_hm> hahaha 12:25 < Synx_hm> working with customer right no to setup my citrix access to their environment, my acct pw no workie... and i quote... 12:25 < Synx_hm> 'sometimes when i boot up the website it thinks im a server, i hate when it does that and i have to restart it' 12:25 <@dasunt> HubiC is 25GB free? 12:30 < Synx_hm> did i mention that quote was from a 'Manager Networks and Wireless' 12:40 -!- cyberanger [~cyberange@swissknife/adak/infocop411] has joined #se2600 12:42 <@Evilpig> Synx_hm: I can't even... 12:42 <@Evilpig> I did figure out my zfs issue though 12:42 <@Evilpig> and it was stupidity on my part 12:43 < Synx_hm> i sent it to a coworker and he said he couldn't even parse the sentence, he understood the words but when he tried to read it it broke his brain 12:43 <@Evilpig> the drive i threw into my proxmox server was formerly part of a software raid in another server and it didn't clear the bit 12:43 < Synx_hm> ahh 12:43 < Synx_hm> ha, i always end up racking my brain for days on shit that turns out to be an obvious omission or something i already knew but had forgotten 12:44 <@Evilpig> I knew something was making that drive act like it was in use but it didn't occur to me that mdadm had snatched it upon insertion 12:44 < Synx_hm> Evilpig, something is for sure up with plex btw, not sure exactly whats going on but the ui when accessed from any mobile device takes forever to load data from my server 12:44 <@Evilpig> did you try a manual port assignment? 12:45 < Synx_hm> yup 12:45 <@Evilpig> i'm happy mine is working again 12:45 <@Evilpig> watching suits right now 12:45 -!- cyberanger [~cyberange@swissknife/adak/infocop411] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.5+deb2+b1 - http://znc.in] 12:45 < Synx_hm> and with the latest plex pass linux deb some transcodes seem to temp bork the server, like it just dissapears for a bit, then goes no direct connection then finally reappears 12:46 < Synx_hm> i had very similar shit before and it turned out to all be linked to having the plex sqlite db on a nfs mount 12:46 < Synx_hm> but im doing local fs now and these issues are slowly cropping back up 12:48 -!- cyberanger [~cyberange@swissknife/adak/infocop411] has joined #se2600 13:04 <@Evilpig> hrmm. interesting 13:04 <@Evilpig> I was noticing iowait of up to 30% last night while I had about 6 transcodes going 13:04 <@Evilpig> thinking about moving the temp transcode directory to /dev/shm 13:06 < Synx_hm> Evilpig, how are you liking proxmox? i've been on ESXi for about 6 years and its been awesome when paired with vt-d but there are some wonky things about vswitches that i really dislike 13:07 < Synx_hm> my entire home setup is inside ESXi to include my pfsense firewall, freenas zfs storage, and a bunch of linux/bsd vms for labs etc and plex 13:08 < dc0de[m]> Evilpig: it ran great last night! 13:18 <@Evilpig> Synx_hm: so far I don't have any complaints. I am currently having a weird issue with one guest where I am losing network connectivity until I reboot the guest but haven't pinpointed that to an OS issue or proxmox doing something squirrely with the virtio driver 13:19 <@Evilpig> dc0de[m]: my bandwidth graph shows the difference https://blueboy.wilpig.org/mrtg/localhost_2.html 13:19 < PigBot> Title: Traffic Analysis for public - firewall.wilpig.org (at blueboy.wilpig.org) http://tinyurl.com/yche9ruz 13:19 <@Evilpig> the outbound traffic between 4 and midnight was just plex and ftp 13:20 <@Evilpig> I just noticed my two internet outages today there before noon 13:36 <@Dagmar> LOOOL 13:36 <@Dagmar> Student loan SMS spammers... in California 13:37 <@Dagmar> I just made sure a couple of people knew they could _personally_ be arrested 13:42 < ^020d> I thought all those were bots 13:42 <@Dagmar> I got three people who sounded like native English speakers in a row, so I just plain asked if they were in the US 13:42 < ^020d> I get all these "$1,000 loan waiting for you Amy! Text STOP to stop" 13:43 < ^020d> Very consistent, dozens of numbers calling me Amy. 13:43 < ^020d> I just add them to the "Idiot" contact I have blocked, but each number will send at least 3 or 4 times. 13:49 <@Dagmar> I make an effort to make them stop calling 13:49 <@Dagmar> I won't abuse the CSR, but I will certainly abuse the organization 13:49 <@Dagmar> I will do my best to see that whoever I talk to has serious doubts about whether or not they want to continue working there, for one 13:49 <@Dagmar> I will waste their talk times 13:50 <@Dagmar> I will occasionally, if they're careless enough, send the local police around for a welfare check of sorts 14:03 <@Dagmar> ...and now I've filed a DMCA takedown request against aptoide.com via Amazon 14:03 <@Dagmar> Because fuck those people 14:03 <@Corydon76> Dagmar: you don't resort to abuse to the ones who blatantly lie to you? 14:04 <@Dagmar> Oh when the agents start lying to me is when the option to start convincing them that perhaps their life is a shitfest goes onto the table 14:04 <@Dagmar> But, so long as the individual appears to be dealing with me fairly, I try to make sure they're aware it's their employer that I'm going to make suffer 14:05 <@Corydon76> The NRA called, trying to put some crap about how some liberal lobbying organization was attacking Trump. "Fuck Trump!" 14:05 <@Dagmar> Oh hell 14:05 <@Dagmar> That sort of call would get an Oscar-quality performance out of me 14:05 <@Corydon76> If the NRA really wants me to donate to them, they need to start lobbying Congress to impeach his fat ass 14:06 <@Dagmar> ...and whaever insane-o shit I could get that agent to say would be going on YouTube 14:31 <@dasunt> Spammy/scammy phone call day. 14:31 <@dasunt> Morning was some credit card spam/scam. 14:31 <@dasunt> Now I have "Publisher's Clearing House" calling me. 14:35 <@dasunt> Just to add the the annoyance, now I have another technical fuckwit. 14:49 <@Dagmar> You've registerd with the donotcall list, right? 14:49 < xray> yes, like that matters 14:50 <@Dagmar> It does. 14:50 <@Dagmar> It allows you to file complaints and send people to jail 14:50 < xray> They still call me 14:50 < xray> yeah like that works 14:50 <@Dagmar> Especially if the people calling are engaging in some form of fraud 14:50 < xray> this seems like a better way to handle it 14:50 < xray> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXVJ4JQ3SUw 14:50 < PigBot> Title: Telephone spam/scam problem? Bring in the robots. | Roger Anderson | TEDxNaperville - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/jl9nvks 14:50 <@Dagmar> ...which, since they're already violating the DoNotCall registry and that law, it's almost guaranteed that what they're doing is criminal in some way all by itself. 14:50 < xray> Or at least a funnier way to hadel it 14:51 <@Dagmar> Talk their employees into quitting 14:51 < xray> I have better things to do with my time 14:51 <@Dagmar> Or fleeing the office because you're not supposed to tell them this but the feds are on their fucking way 14:51 < xray> Now if I could make money suing them 14:51 < xray> that would be worth while 14:51 <@Dagmar> Like right now man, I'm not kidding they're going to arrest errybody! 14:51 < xray> but what are the chances of actually getting the money 14:52 < Synx_hm> Evilpig, apparently 9pfs may be known to work with file locks and sqlite (plex db) correctly, its suggested on the plexinc docker github repo 15:04 <@dasunt> The PCH scam was from Jamacia, according to caller ID. 15:04 <@dasunt> I don't think DNC would have hellped. 15:05 <@dasunt> ER, helped. (WTF am I on?) 15:23 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ac80:d900:445e:2b7f:bf13:f9db] has quit [] 15:31 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ac80:d900:445e:2b7f:bf13:f9db] has joined #se2600 15:31 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ac80:d900:445e:2b7f:bf13:f9db] has quit [Client Quit] 15:40 -!- remoford1 [~remo_lapt@c-68-52-35-32.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 15:53 <@Dagmar> It's highly unlikely they were actually calling from Jamaica 15:53 <@Dagmar> Remember, if they're already engaging in fraud, they're not going to find ANI spoofing (which is also illegal) to be much of an impediment. 15:54 <@Dagmar> So... if you actually left out xxhdpi (3x, 72x72) multiplier that's your problem. 15:54 <@Dagmar> !@#!# 16:31 <@Corydon76> Comcast is sucking wind today. 31/18 on a connection that is supposed to be 75/20 16:53 <@Evilpig> replaced both disks in my proxmox setup. if I don't come back online shortly there's been a disaster and i'm likely looking for a train to kiss 16:54 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ac80:d900:445e:2b7f:bf13:f9db] has joined #se2600 --- Log opened Thu Aug 24 17:00:54 2017 17:00 -!- Evilpig [~wilpig@96-80-184-99-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #se2600 17:00 -!- Irssi: #se2600: Total of 38 nicks [18 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 20 normal] 17:00 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Evilpig] by ChanServ 17:00 -!- Irssi: Join to #se2600 was synced in 10 secs --- Log closed Thu Aug 24 17:01:52 2017 --- Log opened Thu Aug 24 17:01:56 2017 17:01 -!- Evilpig [~wilpig@96-80-184-99-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #se2600 17:01 -!- Irssi: #se2600: Total of 38 nicks [18 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 20 normal] 17:01 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Evilpig] by ChanServ 17:01 -!- Irssi: Join to #se2600 was synced in 1 secs 17:44 < aestetix> https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/08/safe-spaces-and-ze-badges-my-bewildering-year-at-a-us-university/ 17:45 < aestetix> Suddenly I am a strong prononent of parents spanking their children 17:46 < aestetix> rattle: has all of NYC gone that insane, or is it just NYU? 17:47 < aestetix> btw if you all are interested in the larger picture 17:47 < aestetix> http://tyrannyofsilence.net/ 17:47 < PigBot> Title: Flemming Rose - Tyranny of Silence (at tyrannyofsilence.net) http://tinyurl.com/y8xtva5s 17:47 < aestetix> Almost finished, it's one of the best books on free speech I have *ever* read 17:56 <@rattle> No fuckidy fucking way. 17:59 <@rattle> NYC is tolerant of basically everything. Hence, there are places like that.. But, the pendulum swings both ways. There are places where being overly sensitive is considered offensive. 18:00 <@rattle> The vast majority of the city continues to run in zero fucks mode. 18:01 < aestetix> ok that gives me some hope 18:01 < aestetix> In Germany, the only places where that nonsense persists is where Americans live. 20:32 < Synx_hm> what list do i need to subscribe to, to get rid of youtube ads with dnsbl (basically pihole) 20:59 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ac80:d900:445e:2b7f:bf13:f9db] has quit [] 21:46 < Synx_hm> why did bellsouth first ground my demark to the box aluminum grounding conductor that runs to the water service entrance, then cut that wire at the demark but leave it in my garage bonded, then add a new wire bond 20 feet into the garage bonded to cold water again 21:47 < Synx_hm> why not just bond to the breaker box that is literally right on the other side of the demark entrance wall 21:48 < Synx_hm> im some what inclined to rip out the demark entirely as im on fiber now, assuming att does pots service over fiber should a future owner need 21:49 < xray> Thry using privacy badger and ublock origin == no youtube ads 21:49 < xray> I'm also running a pihole 22:00 < Synx_hm> works awesome for my laptop 22:00 < Synx_hm> its my android that is constantly stuck with ads :( 22:01 < xray> what about when you connect to your wifi with pihole running on your net 22:02 < Synx_hm> oh right duh, ya so i have dnsbl on pfsense but i have no earthly idea how to properly configure it 22:02 < Synx_hm> its blocking a shit ton of malware domains but nothing ad related 22:24 -!- remoford1 [~remo_lapt@c-68-52-35-32.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:26 -!- remoford1 [~remo_lapt@c-68-52-35-32.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 23:56 -!- klixa-cloud [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xkvheiukityeixxg] has joined #se2600 23:56 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa-cloud] by ChanServ --- Log closed Fri Aug 25 00:00:47 2017