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06:37 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:42  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
06:42 < K`Tetch> bleugh
06:42 < K`Tetch> too damned early
06:45 < aestetix> sigh
06:45 < aestetix> elections are happening in berlin
06:45 < aestetix> I saw a sign for the MLPD
06:45 < aestetix> I asked what it meant
06:45 < aestetix> "Marxist-Leninist Party Deutschland"
07:01 < K`Tetch> yep
07:02 < K`Tetch> haven't paid attention, but how many seats do they expect the pirates to lose?
07:02 < aestetix> quite a few if I recall
07:03 < K`Tetch> thats the problems of liquid democracy and a lack of general political competence
07:03 < aestetix> yes
07:03 < aestetix> I mean I'm always happy to see a young looking candidate running
07:03 < K`Tetch> hey got their foot int he door, and ddn't capitalise on it
07:03 < aestetix> but especially the pirate party seems to get devoured easily
07:04 < aestetix> it really is the best way to try to get change you want, though
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07:04 < aestetix> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_Party_Germany
07:04 < K`Tetch> they won't listen to advice, and think keeness replaces competence
07:04 < PigBot> Title: Pirate Party Germany - Wikipedia (at en.wikipedia.org) http://tinyurl.com/yap5zhlf
07:04 < aestetix> wow, fell from 8.9% in 2011 to 1.7% last year
07:05 < K`Tetch> yep
07:05 < K`Tetch> they made a big pre-election impact, and hten failed to actually use the position
07:05 < aestetix> yep
07:05 < aestetix> reminds me of all the people who showed up to the surveilance drama at oakland city hall
07:06 < aestetix> and then when it came time to create the policy, only one or two ever came to the meetings
07:06 < K`Tetch> oh shit, oakland
07:06 < K`Tetch> that reminds me, I was sent proporsed drone legislatio for oakland, i need to go through it
07:06 < aestetix> of course when it looked like we were actually about to create a policy that city council would approve, literally every part of the city had a representative who wanted to speak to our committee
07:07 < aestetix> In June 2009, Bundestag member Jörg Tauss left the SPD and joined the Pirate Party[16] after the Zugangserschwerungsgesetz was passed, but left the Pirate Party in 2010 when he was convicted for possession of child pornography
07:07 < aestetix> what the fuck is wrong with these people
07:08 < aestetix> K`Tetch: oh really?
07:09 < aestetix> K`Tetch: if you're trying to get it through the city, it will go through the privacy commission I helped create :)
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07:09 < K`Tetch> you know dave maass?
07:09 < aestetix> I've met him a couple times
07:09 < aestetix> from EFF right?
07:09 < K`Tetch> hes who sent it to me
07:09 < aestetix> oh ok
07:09 < K`Tetch> we're donig a panel on drone legislation next week
07:09 < K`Tetch> yes
07:10 < K`Tetch> i gotta finish slides for that too
07:10 < K`Tetch> clip bits from fast+furious 7, star trek insurrection, and back to the future 2
07:12 < aestetix> is dragoncon eff doing a panel on the daily stormer drama?
07:12 < aestetix> because that's actually really, really important
07:12 < aestetix> it's impact on the future of internet infrastructure, not that little tumblr tabloid :p
07:13 < K`Tetch> i'm not with the track any more, but no
07:13 < aestetix> oh ok
07:13 < K`Tetch> because topics have to be submitted mid-july
07:13 < aestetix> ah ok
07:13 < K`Tetch> and scott usually has topics and speakers storted by mid-june
07:14 < K`Tetch> https://app.core-apps.com/dragoncon17/speakers/e745108d756d7a02c09b15e5218f740b <-- my listing
07:14 < PigBot> Title: Dragon Con 2017 (at app.core-apps.com) http://tinyurl.com/yamc922m
07:15 < K`Tetch> http://app.core-apps.com/dragoncon17/event/b13ca5695883332ffc3acab38db18a07 drone panel
07:15 < aestetix> actually
07:15 < PigBot> Title: Dragon Con 2017 (at app.core-apps.com) http://tinyurl.com/y8mr3lty
07:15 < aestetix> http://app.core-apps.com/dragoncon17/event/b13ca5695883332ffc3acab38da282bc
07:15 < PigBot> Title: Dragon Con 2017 (at app.core-apps.com) http://tinyurl.com/y89vn4kg
07:15 < aestetix> the daily stormer drama would fit into this panel
07:16 < aestetix> maybe they will cover it
07:16 < K`Tetch> which one?
07:16 < aestetix> there's a net neutrality talk
07:16 < K`Tetch> yeah, and I'm not on it
07:16 < aestetix> oh heh
07:16 < aestetix> yeah that was just me having wishful thinking
07:17 < aestetix> although
07:17 < aestetix> I do wonder if it falls into freedom of the press
07:17 < K`Tetch> I was supposed to be on it 2 years ago, but it clashed with a battlebots panel
07:17 < aestetix> if you want to consider the daily stormer press
07:17 <@Evilpig> that little bump this morning signified they fixed my uplink
07:21 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSAAIMwFod0
07:21 < PigBot> Title: MILO on the Threat of Silicon Valley - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/y8qmfx44
07:50 < Synx_hm> its time to rock the fuck out
07:51 < Synx_hm> and violently smash my work laptop to pieces while i dance on our serious vp's grave
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08:55 <@dasunt> Milo as in I'm-an-asswipe-Milo?
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09:08 < Synx_hm> i finally re-watched the first season of halt and catch fire, what an odd ending
09:08 < Synx_hm> started the first ep of season 2 and we'll see where it goes i guess
09:14 <@dasunt> Huh, sounds interesting.
09:14 <@dasunt> Worth watching?
09:15 <@Evilpig> I found it entertaining
09:15 <@_NSAKEY> Synx_hm: It should immediately start getting better from that point forward. The show starts focusing on the good characters and the less interesting ones get less screen time.
09:16 <@dasunt> I'll keep an eye out for it.
09:16 < Synx_hm> ya im looking forward to it
09:16 < Synx_hm> dasunt, i abandon season 1 a few years ago while it was new i think i was watching breaking bad or something at the time, maybe mr robot
09:17 < Synx_hm> but ya its good
09:18  * dasunt adds it to his TV show list.
09:20 <@dasunt> Crap, my book list is 45 books long now.
09:20 <@opticron> I have a similar problem
09:20 <@Evilpig> damn zfs, damn proxmox, damn computers!
09:21 <@dasunt> My problem is that I use the note taking app on my phone to keep a list of interesting books I hear about.
09:21 <@Evilpig> so you're writing a book about books, sounds boring
09:23 <@dasunt> Worse is when I forget why I added somethign to the list, and it ends up sucking.
09:24 <@dasunt> And now that I'm looking at the list, I discover that none of the three library systems I have access to carries this one book.
09:27 <@dasunt> And the kindle version is $20.  Which seems high
09:38 <@dasunt> So should I learn Rust?
09:39 <@Evilpig> you should learn zfs and solve my problem. 
09:39 <@Evilpig> that'd be super
09:39 <@dasunt> Your solution:  Don't use ZFS.
09:39 <@dasunt> This is 2017, everything should be in The Cloud(tm).
09:39 < Synx_hm> i love my zfs setup
09:39 <@Evilpig> I agree with that one, but proxmox installed it by default because I wanted the server mirrored
09:40 <@Evilpig> trying to replace the disks with different ones and just not going well
09:40 < xray> That is what cloud vendors would like you to believe.
09:40 < Synx_hm> ahh, boot zfs yes ha fun
09:41 <@Evilpig> the boot part I think I got worked out, when replacing the disk in the pool it's acting liek the disk is in use
09:41 < xray> But I have to deal with sensitive data, CUI, FERPA, HIPPA, export controlled, and none of it can legally be stored in the cloud without the proper contract in place.
09:41 < xray> Most cloud vendors are not interested in dealing with this kind of data.
09:42 < xray> So if you are in an industry that has regulations on the dissemination and control of data access the cloud is generally a no go.
09:42 < xray> If you just talking about your own data in the cloud then you can do whatever you want with it.
09:43 < xray> There are few cloud vendors who deal with restricted data (like two or three at best).
09:44 < xray> If you have to ask how much that costs, you can't afford it.
09:44 <@Evilpig> pretty sure when you deal with that typeo f shit like we do, you just rent out remote space and make your own cloud
09:45 <@dasunt> I'm glad I don't have to deal with setting up our data policies.
09:45 < xray> Are the systems administrators for the cloud hardware US Persons?
09:45 < xray> Where are the servers located?
09:45 < xray> You still have to cover those issues by contract.
09:46 < xray> That is unless you like being the next big example of miss-managed data.
09:46 < xray> It all sounds great until the auditors show up.
09:48 < xray> By the way, what kind of cookies do you like.
09:48 <@Evilpig> encoded
09:48 <@Evilpig> :D
09:48 <@_NSAKEY> And don't forget accidental runaway costs.
09:48 < xray> I'll make sure to bring you some when I visit you in prison.
09:48 <@dasunt> A previous job I had kinda had those issues.  But we also had a security team on site with semi-strict security
09:48 < xray> Encrypting the data only works if the regulating agency accepts the technological control in advance.
09:48 < xray> They don
09:49 < xray> They don't take kindly to doing it and begging for forgiveness later.
09:49 <@dasunt> I call it semi-strict because you could leave the building without scanning your badge and an armed guard wouldn't show up.
09:49 <@dasunt> Which wasn't true for all of our locations.
10:39 < aestetix> http://www.dw.com/en/berlin-school-installs-anti-prostitute-fence/a-40194796
10:39 < PigBot> Title: Berlin school installs anti-prostitute fence | News | DW | 22.08.2017 (at www.dw.com) http://tinyurl.com/y9gq3nld
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12:05 <@dasunt> Gawd.  I think I'm approaching this problem wrong:  https://projecteuler.net/problem=51
12:05 < PigBot> Title: Problem 51 - Project Euler (at projecteuler.net) http://tinyurl.com/z9cjujs
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15:58 <@rattle> LTC just surged up like 15% in less than an hour.
16:22 <@brimstone> https://haha.business
16:22 < PigBot> Title: HA HA! BUSINESS (at haha.business) http://tinyurl.com/y9rjoaly
17:18 < aestetix> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-24/former-cia-officer-wants-to-buy-twitter-to-stop-trump/8837386
17:18 < PigBot> Title: Donald Trump: Former CIA officer wants to #BuyTwitter to shut down Presidents violence and hate - Donald Trumps America - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (at www.abc.net.au) http://tinyurl.com/y9gdw6kf
17:20 <@Evilpig> who wants to see dagmar lose his shit?
17:21 <@Evilpig> I just got off the phone with tech support for a friend of mine's virtual hosting company.  I had to put these settings in for the network to work.  https://www.dropbox.com/s/7r4ip0zgaxr4th2/network_setup.png?dl=0
17:21 < PigBot> Title: Dropbox - network_setup.png (at www.dropbox.com) http://tinyurl.com/ybgol6t4
17:21 <@Evilpig> I did it after arguing with the guy that this was in no way near correct 
17:23 < dc0de[m]> Evilpig: but you can get to the internet!
17:42 <@Dagmar> rattle: I made out _well_ in the madness today
17:42 <@Dagmar> I like it when prices swing back and forth by a dollar or two at a time
18:18 <@rattle> Yesterday and today have been very good..
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23:14 < Synx_hm> bitches
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