--- Log opened Sun Aug 13 00:00:26 2017 06:07 -!- crashcartpro [uid29931@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zxnmjgouqqgmhhye] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 10:59 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ac80:d900:5082:b14b:11f:596f] has joined #se2600 11:24 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ginrhczrxhvkbxkr] has joined #se2600 11:25 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ac80:d900:5082:b14b:11f:596f] has quit [] 12:29 -!- remoford1 [~remo_lapt@c-68-52-35-32.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 14:49 -!- remoford1 [~remo_lapt@c-68-52-35-32.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:57 -!- remoford1 [~remo_lapt@c-68-52-35-32.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 15:29 <@oddball> Well, this is interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei6rzwo7BrU 15:29 < PigBot> Title: Its Not An Algorithm, Its a Blacklist (And Im On It) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/y6vugps7 15:44 < aestetix> funny 15:44 < aestetix> since someone I regularly watch just had their account deleted by youtube 15:46 <@oddball> oh? 15:47 < aestetix> at a certain point the "private company" argument starts to sound like "we were just following orders" 15:47 <@oddball> heh 15:48 <@oddball> And for the record, other than using some off color language, the only things this guy is guilty of is being libertarian and liking bad action movies. 15:51 < aestetix> https://twitter.com/stranahan/status/896739533177442304 15:53 < aestetix> That guy is a big Trump supporter. I suspect that's why youtube took action 16:09 <@oddball> probably 16:16 < Synx_hm> a thousand years rick and morthy 16:34 -!- NoFault [~NoFault@c-174-49-12-150.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 17:09 <@Dagmar> oddball: From what the guy is describing, it's probably a matter of the videos not having anything matching topics advertisers have bought ads for 17:10 <@Dagmar> Either that, or it's more bullshit matching against 4'33" (silence) 17:11 <@Dagmar> Could be they're finally cracking down on low-quality "throw shit at the wall and see if it sticks" publishers 17:31 <@oddball> Considering that this guy has a good amount of followers and does put out decent stuff, I seriously doubt the latter. 17:31 <@oddball> Unless "low quality" = "stuff we don't agree with." 18:03 < aestetix> oddball: I'm glad I'm not in the bay area anymore. I've been called horrible things because I'm a free speech fundamentalist. 18:03 < aestetix> And that was before Trump was even a candidate. 18:03 < aestetix> They'd probably outright call me a nazi now. 18:03 <@oddball> And it's just gotten worse. 18:04 < aestetix> I love how all these so-called liberals are trying to de-fund the ACLU for defending the neo-Nazis now. 18:04 <@oddball> Oh really? 18:04 < aestetix> Given that the existing case law defending Nazis free speech was argued by the ACLU in 1969 18:05 < aestetix> or at least in the 60s, I don't remember the year 18:05 < aestetix> http://www.acluohio.org/archives/cases/brandenburg-v-ohio 18:05 < PigBot> Title: Brandenburg v. Ohio 395 U.S. 444 (1969) | ACLU of Ohio (at www.acluohio.org) http://tinyurl.com/yc3stna6 18:05 < aestetix> So if this is as serious a problem as these idiots claim, why haven't they been protesting for the last 50 years? 18:05 <@oddball> heh 18:05 < K`Tetch> i've seen a few people talking abotu defunding, (or rather, wanting heir moeny back) but not a lot 18:07 <@oddball> Well, and I love the number of folks that were apparently perfectly ok with Antifa basically burning Berkely, but are trying to paint an asshole raming his car into a crowd of protestors as a planned, organized attack. 18:09 < aestetix> I mean don't get me wrong 18:09 < aestetix> I hope the guy who plowed down the protesters is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law 18:10 < aestetix> But I gotta say.... I have issues with the ACLU, but they do a damned good job defending "minorities" and so on 18:10 <@oddball> Of course, with the ACLU, I *really* wish the national org would at least take the same stance as state level affiliates and say "there's enough folks protecting that already, talk to them," instead of declaring that the 2nd amendment means that the government can bear arms. 18:10 < aestetix> Defunding the ACLU actually really, really hurts the liberals cause 18:11 <@oddball> aestetix: yep, that's how I feel about the asshole, and the ACLU has done some great stuff for defending the 1st amendment. 18:12 < aestetix> In fact, liberals calling for the ACLU to be defunded is the ultimate example of the left eating itself alive 18:12 <@oddball> heh 18:19 < aestetix> oh wow 18:20 < aestetix> do a google search for "what party did lincoln belong to" 18:21 <@oddball> bwah?! 18:22 < aestetix> bing has the same result 18:22 < aestetix> that is very, very confusing 18:23 < xray> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Union_Party_(United_States) 18:23 < PigBot> Couldn't snarf url: HTTP Error 404: Not Found. http://tinyurl.com/y8bc5fj9 18:24 < xray> The National Union Party was the temporary name used by the Republican Party for the national ticket in the 1864 presidential electio 18:24 < aestetix> yeah I figured that out 18:24 < xray> so I'm not seeing the controversy 18:25 < aestetix> The issue is that people who want to hate on republicans will hear that lincoln founded the republican party, go to google, and get that nonsense instead 18:25 < aestetix> I mean yes it is technically accurate, but nobody would say that today 18:26 < xray> so what your saying is people cherry pick information while ignoring the big picture to make a weak unfounded argument for their politics 18:26 < aestetix> yes 18:26 < xray> and this is news? 18:26 < aestetix> well I was expecting better from google 18:26 < aestetix> but I guess that's my own fault 18:26 < xray> I thought this was the very definition of politics 18:27 < xray> Not Googles fault what people publish on their web site nor who links to it and thus driving it higher in the search rankings 18:28 < xray> and even if the search ranking is biased by Googles internal politics it is still incumbent on the individual to ver their sources 18:28 < xray> idiocy is without excuse in the age of the Interent 18:31 <@oddball> And considering that that party name was only used during his re-election, which he only lived a year into, I would say that "Republican" would be the more correct answer. 18:44 -!- NoFault [~NoFault@c-174-49-12-150.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:56 -!- NoFault [~NoFault@c-174-49-12-150.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 19:00 -!- NoFault [~NoFault@c-174-49-12-150.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has left #se2600 [] 19:00 -!- NoFault [~NoFault@c-174-49-12-150.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 19:20 <@Dagmar> Calling that dimwit a terrorist is _really_ overstating his skill level 19:58 < K`Tetch> he meets the definition 20:00 < K`Tetch> “The unlawful use of violence or threat of violence to instill fear and coerce governments or societies. Terrorism is often motivated by religious, political, or other ideological beliefs and committed in the pursuit of goals that are usually political.” (Source: Joint Pub 3-07.2, Antiterrorism, (24 November 2010)) 20:01 < K`Tetch> Violence, check. attempt to coerce socieity (specifically the counterprotesters) check, motivated by ideological beliefs, check. political goal, check. Terrorist label checks out 20:24 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ac80:d900:a951:dba2:621a:bf06] has joined #se2600 21:15 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ac80:d900:a951:dba2:621a:bf06] has quit [] 21:56 -!- NoFault [~NoFault@c-174-49-12-150.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:40 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ac80:d900:46:4c4e:a533:35c] has joined #se2600 23:40 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ac80:d900:46:4c4e:a533:35c] has quit [Client Quit] --- Log closed Mon Aug 14 00:00:27 2017