--- Log opened Wed May 31 00:00:23 2017 00:38 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ac80:d900:e429:5cf3:331c:863f] has joined #se2600 01:13 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ac80:d900:e429:5cf3:331c:863f] has quit [] 01:17 -!- oddball [~oddball@c-98-240-105-54.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:25 -!- oddball [~oddball@c-98-240-105-54.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 02:26 -!- klixa-cloud [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qkzhuieajbozkcfu] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] --- Log closed Wed May 31 03:56:08 2017 --- Log opened Wed May 31 03:57:29 2017 03:57 -!- Evilpig_ [~wilpig@wilpig.org] has joined #se2600 03:57 -!- Irssi: #se2600: Total of 33 nicks [15 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 18 normal] 03:57 -!- Irssi: Join to #se2600 was synced in 17 secs 04:01 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: @Evilpig, @am1n0, @Dagmar 04:08 -!- Dagmar [~dagmar@162-229-17-110.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 04:08 -!- Dagmar [~dagmar@162-229-17-110.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Changing host] 04:08 -!- Dagmar [~dagmar@unaffiliated/dagmar] has joined #se2600 04:08 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Dagmar] by ChanServ 06:48 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 06:48 * aestetix hugs Dolemite 06:49 <@Dolemite> Wow, you are really on my^^ the ball this morning 06:49 < dfused> yar..... 06:59 -!- remoford [~remo_lapt@c-68-52-35-32.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 08:19 <@Corydon76> Dolemite: it's all of this covfefe 08:21 <@rattle> It's all Covfefe News. 08:21 < aestetix> oh wow 08:21 < aestetix> Looks like Trump is pulling out of the Paris Climate accord 08:21 < aestetix> https://www.axios.com/scoop-trump-is-pulling-u-s-out-of-paris-climate-deal-2427773025.html 08:21 < PigBot> Title: Trump is pulling U.S. out of Paris climate deal - Axios (at www.axios.com) http://tinyurl.com/y7o44bb2 08:41 <@rattle> And there goes the economy.. 08:43 <@Dolemite> But hey, he's rallying his base! 08:47 -!- dfused [~dfused@vpn3.dfused.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:47 -!- dfused [~dfused@vpn3.dfused.org] has joined #se2600 08:51 -!- dfused [~dfused@vpn3.dfused.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:52 -!- dfused [~dfused@vpn3.dfused.org] has joined #se2600 08:54 < Evilpig_> Trump just started one of those subscription box services to fund his re-election campaign. you can support trup and get swag for just $70 a month! 08:55 -!- dfused [~dfused@vpn3.dfused.org] has quit [Client Quit] 08:55 -!- dfused [~dfused@vpn3.dfused.org] has joined #se2600 08:56 -!- dfused [~dfused@vpn3.dfused.org] has quit [Client Quit] 09:35 -!- dfused [~dfused@vpn3.dfused.org] has joined #se2600 09:44 -!- dfused [~dfused@vpn3.dfused.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:47 -!- dfused [~dfused@vpn3.dfused.org] has joined #se2600 10:03 <@Corydon76> An interesting observation: the services which provide the ability to map an IP address back to a geolocation are quite happy to accept updates from the general Internet community, with no apparent vetting of the source. I wonder what kind of shenanigans we could get into with this capability. 10:04 <@Mirage> About the same as being upble to submit updates to google about map locations 10:05 <@Mirage> Granted they are supposely vetted, but i don't think they do much 10:05 <@Corydon76> As an aside, one of my IPs has a different location setting with each of the major geolocation services, so I can tell which service a company is using by where they think I'm located. 10:08 <@Mirage> heh..about like the dozens of email aliases i have to identify which company is selling my information 10:31 <@Catonic> that, it seems is the best step. the other is to make up names and file things under pseudonyms so when random mail comes in, you know that $company sold your info. 10:32 <@Catonic> and then Experian, Transunion, and LexisNexis will gobble all that data up and create dossiers on fake people that don't exist. 10:33 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ac80:d900:e429:5cf3:331c:863f] has joined #se2600 10:34 <@Catonic> which is probably the reason why Verizon is out there putting a cookie on phones that expires in 20 years.. so when you become Dave from Grand Rapids, they know that Dave is really $realname at $reallocation 11:40 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-whtppwzbwjktrcgg] has joined #se2600 12:06 -!- cordless [cordless@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-dkixxwuvwkyqmmqj] has joined #se2600 12:06 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o cordless] by ChanServ 12:07 <@Dagmar> Damn. 12:07 <@Dagmar> Misjudged the days low point on Etherium by thirty freakin' cents 12:08 < K`Tetch> ooh, that reminds me, Corydon76, I need to do a followup of my tests into geoip systems 12:08 < K`Tetch> any volunteers to help (I just want some more locations to test from, different ISPs etc 12:09 < dfused> damn spy 12:09 < dfused> u working for the chinese yeah? 12:09 <@Dagmar> You want my current IP? 12:09 <@Corydon76> When I called Comcast, I was informed that they do NOTHING to maintain the locations on their IPs 12:09 < K`Tetch> https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160413/12012834171/how-bad-are-geolocation-tools-really-really-bad.shtml is when i did it last year 12:09 < PigBot> Title: How Bad Are Geolocation Tools? Really, Really Bad | Techdirt (at www.techdirt.com) http://tinyurl.com/y7hxp2gs 12:09 <@Dagmar> I suspect a lot of that data is actually coming from GPS-enabled services 12:10 <@Dagmar> ...in generally the lowest precision possible. 12:10 < K`Tetch> nope, very little, from my tests 12:10 <@Corydon76> I was working on updating them, because I got sick of being told that my local store was in Chicago or Knoxville 12:10 <@Dagmar> Oh there's a few stores that fail utterly at that lately because of AS moves 12:10 < K`Tetch> I did the geoip tests because of their heavy use by copyright trolls 12:11 <@Corydon76> Dagmar: some of the online dating services use geoip to determine what potential dates are close by 12:11 <@Dagmar> At the moment Best Buy and Home Depot's attempts at location guessing are hilariously wrong 12:11 <@Corydon76> No, I don't want to talk to guys in Chicago 12:11 <@Dagmar> Corydon76: That sounds like ad banner bullshit 12:12 <@Corydon76> Dagmar: I think they simply didn't understand how terrible the data actually is 12:12 <@Dagmar> Well, the people selling aggregated geoip data make it sound like they're working miracles 12:13 < K`Tetch> oh, i know 12:13 < K`Tetch> thats how they make their money 12:40 <@Catonic> The only other way to correlate locations would be by registration or dns name 12:43 <@Catonic> It's a pretty good guess that most state universities and colleges have a pool of IPs from time immemorial and have most of those IPs located in a single location or a single regional area. 14:28 < K`Tetch> true enough 15:08 -!- overfien [~overfien@67-134-36-67.dia.static.qwest.net] has joined #se2600 16:04 -!- overfien [~overfien@67-134-36-67.dia.static.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:05 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:08 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@noranti.in.the.narro.ws] has joined #se2600 16:08 -!- brimstone is now known as Guest77800 16:13 < K`Tetch> just had three charter guys hanging on the lines outside my house 16:14 < K`Tetch> apparaantly, the line is 'leaking' 16:14 < xray> What does that mean? 16:15 < xray> Sounds like they made it up or it is an in-house term for a specific problem 16:21 <@Catonic> I got schooled on CNAMEs. 16:22 <@Catonic> Apparently I forgot a few things. 16:22 <@Catonic> The first rule of DNS club... you do not talk about DNS... 16:24 < K`Tetch> well, I looked it up while he was explaining - leaking RF signal, squirrels chew through the outside of the line 16:24 < xray> that makes sense 16:25 <@Catonic> Part of me wants to be a dick now when I see the cable guy... 16:25 <@Catonic> like "C'mere.... See that? You keep the plant tight around here. Or else." 16:25 < K`Tetch> first guy lived downt he street, checked it with a wand tool down the whole street because he was having a drirty signal at home. 16:25 < K`Tetch> check ti with a ladder 16:26 <@Catonic> but not everyone has a spectrum analyer and a service monitor... or three. 16:26 < xray> The backbone has an aluminum outer shell so I'm guessing he's not talking about squirrels chewing through that. 16:26 < xray> Maybe the quad shield RG6 to the house? 16:26 <@Catonic> You underestimate the utter insanity of teeth growing into a brain. 16:26 < K`Tetch> then he called in 2 more guys with bucket trucks (I swim with one of them's wife) and they went up and took photos to send in 16:26 < K`Tetch> yes, those lines 16:26 < K`Tetch> the aluminium lines between poles 16:27 < K`Tetch> the ones you can hook and rest a ladder onto 16:27 < xray> Wow, that is some squirrel 16:27 <@Catonic> The CATV hardline is designed as aluminum inner and aluminum outer, that way it grows and shrinks at the same rate. 16:27 <@Catonic> But it is aluminum, so even at the joints it has to have an outlet for expansion. That's why you see the bends in the cable going down the road. 16:29 <@Catonic> It's not uncommon for it to crack due to stress, stupidity, and forces outside the intended installation. 16:29 < K`Tetch> also, seems the contractor that installed my acble hookup 3 years ago... didn't screw the connector in all he way tight 16:29 <@Catonic> and CATV leaks are important to fix, because they can cause problems for ham radio operators and aviation, as well as other users of spectrum. 16:29 < K`Tetch> I've now gota nother 1mbit upload speed (5 to 6) 16:30 -!- Guest77800 [~brimstone@noranti.in.the.narro.ws] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:30 <@Catonic> the S/N is probably in the 35 dBV range, qam 256 or better 16:31 < K`Tetch> 37 16:31 < K`Tetch> and ye256qam 16:31 -!- Guest77800 [~brimstone@noranti.in.the.narro.ws] has joined #se2600 16:31 < K`Tetch> and one snr is 38 16:31 <@Catonic> QAM-256 at 3429 Hz is 56K / 33.6K 16:33 < K`Tetch> https://www.dropbox.com/s/v48p70b9bf57zvm/modem%20status1%20.png.jpg?dl=0 16:33 <@Catonic> pastebin 16:34 < K`Tetch> https://pastebin.com/tUpu8g2c 16:34 < PigBot> Title: Downstream DCID Freq Power SNR Modulation Octets Correcteds Uncorrectables D - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com) http://tinyurl.com/y7m7fgsw 16:35 <@Catonic> blessed are the bonded 16:38 <@Catonic> so, for those playing at home: 8 carriers carrying 256QAM... 16:38 <@Catonic> is 64 bytes per symbol or baud 16:38 <@Catonic> QAM256 is 8 bits per baud 16:40 <@Catonic> Looks like 5.057 is the magic number for a 6 MHz TV channel 16:41 <@Catonic> 40.456 Mbit/s down per carrier 16:41 <@Catonic> 323.648 Mbit/s aggregate 16:42 <@Catonic> ah, 38 Mb/s because Reed-Solomon. 16:43 <@Catonic> 304 Mbit/s aggregate 17:17 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ac80:d900:e429:5cf3:331c:863f] has quit [] 17:29 -!- Guest77800 [~brimstone@noranti.in.the.narro.ws] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:48 -!- cordless [cordless@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-dkixxwuvwkyqmmqj] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:58 < K`Tetch> nice, Catonic 18:27 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ac80:d900:e429:5cf3:331c:863f] has joined #se2600 19:13 -!- klixa-cloud [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qkkwgvamvnxgbcyi] has joined #se2600 19:13 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa-cloud] by ChanServ 19:26 -!- remoford [~remo_lapt@c-68-52-35-32.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:27 -!- remoford [~remo_lapt@c-68-52-35-32.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 21:49 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ac80:d900:e429:5cf3:331c:863f] has quit [] 21:52 -!- klixa-cloud [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qkkwgvamvnxgbcyi] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 22:05 -!- klixa-cloud [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gmyozawtwypejslw] has joined #se2600 22:05 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa-cloud] by ChanServ --- Log closed Thu Jun 01 00:00:24 2017