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05:59 <@rattle> Dagmar: His folks are the type that buy gold coins and shit to hedge against the end times.  He's done "is bitcoin the new gold?" Type pieces in the past as well..
06:00 <@rattle> And, I think the dip lines up with that show..
06:26  * aestetix sighs
06:26 < aestetix> there has got to be a better internet forum than reddit
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06:55 < aestetix> http://www.orbooks.com/catalog/how-i-lost/
06:55 < aestetix> ouch
06:55 < PigBot> aestetix: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 30480 bytes.
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08:13 < dfused> TIL  Win 2016 WSUS on VM : using same drive datastore as OS for sync can dramatically impact performance.  muuuuch drive thrashing
08:52 < dfused> also... TIL ... microSDs are fucking too brittle.
08:57 < aestetix> where's Dolemite
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08:59 <@Evilpig> aestetix: smuggling cubans into the US
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09:02 < dfused> if he's lucky, still in bed
09:06 <@Evilpig> at 10am est?  not a chance in hell
09:08 < dfused> i want to be.  so far this day is not going well
09:09 <@Evilpig> I'm having killer sugar cravings this morning. notlarry and I are gonna have to go some place with sweets for lunch
09:09 < dfused> hrm... i have a bag of reeses pcs to finish off.
09:16 <@dasunt> Someone brought donuts into the office.
09:17 <@Evilpig> i'm not supposed to have donuts, that's just rude and insensitive.  I want that asshole fired!
09:17 <@dasunt> There's also donut holes.
09:17 < dfused> thats vaporware
09:17 <@Evilpig> of course there are.  I'd expect an asshole to bring holes
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09:18 <@dasunt> Nom nom nom.
09:18 <@Evilpig> damn.  was getting a little worried there.  but my nas started pinging again
09:19 <@Evilpig> while unlikely I didn't want to take a change that any varient of wannacry would get anywhere near my shit.  https://www.synology.com/en-us/releaseNote/DS2413+
09:19 < PigBot> Title: DS2413+ - Release Note | Synology Inc. (at www.synology.com) http://tinyurl.com/y92w2tlw
09:19 <@Evilpig> chance*
09:39 < aestetix> ok
09:39 < aestetix> if you had to go through sexual harassment training at work
09:39 < aestetix> would you rather it be done by a hot chick or an ugly chick
09:43 <@dasunt> With a question like that, I can see why you may be familiar with sexual harassment training.
09:46 <@Dagmar> aestetix: I'm perfectly willing to get thrown out of that sort of training if it's tone turns to SJW nonsense
09:48 <@Dagmar> Deloitte sent us to training that was _reasonable_
09:48 <@Dagmar> Also I asked up front if it was going to be a class where they tell us everything we do is wrong and harassing.
09:48 <@Dagmar> I figured I'd better get the acid test out of the way.
09:50 < dfused> if "that outfit looks awesome" = harrassment.... get out now.
09:54 <@dasunt> I've never had a place I've worked at that had sexual harassment training.
09:55 <@Dagmar> Being that I'm an old-school gentleman I wasn't about to sit through hours of being told I was evil and wrong
09:55 <@Dagmar> I was raised properly, and know damn well that I'm not a sexist or a racist.
09:56 < aestetix> ironically
09:56 < aestetix> the one workplace I was at that had sexual harassment trianing
09:56 <@Dagmar> mikeymop: There _may_ be an attribute for it, but from the way it behaves I think it might be getting set dynamically in code and may not have a theme attribute.  You might have to do some weird stuff to do a getColor on it
09:56 <@Dagmar> 2!@#@!
09:56 < aestetix> about a year after the training, the CEO was arrested for raping an employee
09:56 < dfused> just cause her tits look huge in that shirt... doesnt make me a exist
09:58 < aestetix> And I'm not speaking in hyperbole. He was arrested, there was a police report, and everything
10:01 <@dasunt> Wow.
10:01 <@dasunt> Link to the repor?
10:01 <@dasunt> Er, report?
10:01 < aestetix> lemme see if I can find it
10:01 < aestetix> it was in the news, but he paid a company to get a bunch of it scrubbed
10:02 < aestetix> dasunt: sent in dm
10:02 <@dasunt> Thanks.
10:03 <@dasunt> Worst legal trouble I've seen in a workplace (it happened before I arrived) was that a woman was hired.  She showed up on her first day in dreads - judging by pictures, they looked professional.  But they fired her that day.
10:03 <@dasunt> IIRC, it was ASAP - she showed up, they looked at her, they fired her.
10:05 < dfused> if the pres can have orange hair.... then no reason an emplyee cant have dreads
10:05 < aestetix> no no no
10:05 < aestetix> the pres has orange skin, and fake hair
10:05 <@Corydon76> The most enjoyable training I had was all online -- prerecorded stuff
10:05 <@Corydon76> You watch it, you certify that you've watched it, you're done.
10:06 < dfused> hah... like dod ia awareness training...
10:07 <@Corydon76> From a legal perspective, that's sufficient for a company, because if you lie about having watched it and harrass someone, they can fire you, and you have no recourse.
10:07 <@Corydon76> As soon as you admit in court papers that you lied, your case is over.
10:07 <@dasunt> I wouldn't be surprised if we dealt with worse cases here, but (a) I don't seek out to know the details of what we work on (I stick to IT) and (b) even if I did know the details of a case, I act like I don't.
10:08 <@dasunt> Corydon76: Most states are at-will though, so firing people, outside of a reason pertaining to a perspective class, is legal.
10:08 <@dasunt> Er, s/perspective/protected/
10:09 <@Corydon76> dasunt: but it also protects the company a substantial amount from getting sued by the person who was harrassed
10:09 <@dasunt> Corydon76: That's probably why.
10:10 <@dasunt> IANAL, but don't companies have a defense if they show they *don't* support a culture of harassment?
10:10 <@Corydon76> They did what was reasonable and sufficient to prevent a culture of harrassment, so that one guy/gal was an aberration
10:12 <@Corydon76> The case for harrassment is an uphill battle already, yes, and that's pretty good evidence.  Extra good if the training includes a segment which shows the exact method of harrassment which later occurred, and explained why it was wrong
10:12 <@Corydon76> Because it means the harrasser was explicitly warned about that action, and chose to do it anyway
10:20 < aestetix> Also because the definition of what constitutes harassment seems to expand constantly.
10:22 <@Corydon76> The legal definition has remained pretty stable.  What people have _attempted_ to say was harrassment has not.
10:22 < aestetix> Ah, ok that's a good distinction.
10:22 <@Corydon76> But you can sue anybody for anything, even if your chances at winning are nil.
10:23 < aestetix> I wonder how many police get called a bigot because someone tries to file harassment charges, and the cops tell them it doesn't constitute legal harassment
10:24 <@Corydon76> The cops don't get that discretion
10:24 < aestetix> Judges, then
10:24 <@Corydon76> Besides, harrassment is primarily a civil charge, not a criminal one
10:25 <@Corydon76> Only if it rises to the level of assault do the cops get involved
10:25 < aestetix> That makes sense.
10:25 < aestetix> But I imagine police have to field complaints all the time
10:26 <@Corydon76> Yeah, and a fair number of complaints essentially go into the circular file
10:26 < aestetix> haha
10:27 <@Corydon76> They're not technically allowed to do that, but even so, it likely goes into a file box, where it dies a lonely death
10:27 <@Corydon76> To be shredded in 7 years or whatever they deem is the applicable statute of limitations
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12:50 < K`Tetch> 11:22:49 «@Corydon76» But you can sue anybody for anything, even if your chances at winning are nil. <-- exactly. Case in point - http://www.theeventchronicle.com/media/informational/1-trillion-dollar-lawsuit-filed-msm-staging-sandy-hook/
13:31 < dfused> cia coverup confirmed. >.>
13:50 < dfused> bought me a yubikey.... hope it works well
13:56 <@Dagmar> I got a fido (u2f?) about a year ago
13:56 <@Dagmar> It's been living on my keychain, unused, to see how durable they are
13:56 <@Dagmar> About time to pull it out and actually try to use it
13:59 <@Corydon76> K`Tetch: I hope they countersue for defamation
14:00 <@Corydon76> Get a court judgement for more than the guy will make in a lifetime OR a public apology, with the public apology option expiring 30 days after the judgement is entered.
14:04 <@Corydon76> Oh, never mind, it was already dismissed:https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCOURTS-ctd-3_14-cv-01881/pdf/USCOURTS-ctd-3_14-cv-01881-0.pdf
14:04 < PigBot> Corydon76: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 30480 bytes.
14:08 <@Corydon76> Oh, and in the continuing saga, he refiled in February 2017 for $5T.
14:48 <@dasunt> What's his standing?
14:49 <@Corydon76> Darn good question,  The judge dismissed it for failure to state a claim.
16:07 < K`Tetch> i think this is the 3rd filing
16:07 < K`Tetch> he's heading for jack thompson status with the courts
16:29 <@dasunt> I'm surprised the judges are pissed yet.
16:33 <@Corydon76> If the judge wasn't pissed, he probably was when the plaintiff attempted to have the judge removed from the case
16:38 <@dasunt> LOL
16:41 < K`Tetch> yeah, that never goes well
16:41 < K`Tetch> even trump wasn't stupid enough to legally try that with curiel
16:42 < K`Tetch> its actually a sanctionable offense for lawyers to claim there's a COI when there's not
16:51 <@Corydon76> The guy didn't use a lawyer to file the case.  He's doing it pro se.
16:52 <@Corydon76> Furthermore, he's filed for "in forma pauperis"
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16:56 <@Corydon76> Oh, and the judge dismissed BOTH for failure to state a claim, as well as having no standing.
17:06 <@dasunt> Bored as hell.  But I have to stay at work until 5:30.
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