--- Log opened Fri May 12 00:00:37 2017
00:19 < aestetix> I can't decide which I hate more
00:19 < aestetix> Trump or the press.
00:19 < aestetix> Right now, it's the press.
00:21 < _NSAKEY> rattle: And there's a very rich body of compromised passwords in general floating around. I've got 28GB/2.4 billion of them right now, and probably know people with more than that.
00:22 <@rattle> What do you think happens if you make your political decisions based on hate?
01:29 < aestetix> rattle: that, i believe, is self-evident.
01:30 < aestetix> One of the reasons I've started watching the press briefings daily is because I hate both spicer and the press, and I get to watch them battle
01:30 < aestetix> Watching two entities I hate beat the shit out of each other makes me happy
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04:17 < aestetix> sigh
04:17 < aestetix> systemd is becoming a problem
04:17 < aestetix> when talking with someone about linux, it's turning into a catholic/protestant level split
04:36 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: The problem is that people didn't troll Poettering into becoming a hermit after he messed up Linux audio.
04:37 < _NSAKEY> That's a community failing.
06:41 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:44  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
06:55  * Dolemite lets out a fart
07:22 <@Evilpig> @midnight from last night is hilarious
07:22 <@Evilpig> they did a mother's day edition with all the comedians' moms and hardwick's mom was hosting
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10:21 <@Dolemite> I love you people, with few exceptions.
10:21 < aestetix> Dolemite: I think dfused already apologized to you, don't hold a grudge
10:22 < dfused> I only touched you there once...
10:23 <@Dolemite> The Trumpster Fire is certainly burning hot today, I'll say that
10:23 < aestetix> what happened now
10:24 < aestetix> oh jesus
10:24 <@Dolemite> http://gizmodo.com/trumps-lawyer-inspires-an-instant-meme-with-few-except-1795161639
10:24 < PigBot> Dolemite: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 30480 bytes.
10:26 < aestetix> wait
10:26 < aestetix> wow
10:27 <@Dolemite> So between his interview on NBC last night
10:27 <@Dolemite> And his lawyer's statement on his returns
10:27 <@Dolemite> And his tweet threat to Comey
10:27 <@Dolemite> I'm sitting back and popping some popcorn
10:29 < dfused> but I think comey is a coward.... I'll be really suprised if he doesn't comply with the threat
10:30 <@Dolemite> It's not the crime - it's the coverup.  At this point, the coverup is obvious, whether the crime even has much merit.
10:31 < dfused> teh amusing part ot me is that we're able to absolutely confirm the russia hacks into french election in TWO DAYS, but for our shit, there is NO confirmation and nothing but pointing in other directions
10:32 < aestetix> I still can't belive it's been two days of *only* Comey questions with the press breifings
10:33 < aestetix> which is astonishing given that Trump met both with russian ambassadors *and* Kissinger
10:33 < aestetix> and now there is a bunch of stuff going on with China, it seems that someone would want to know what Trump and Kissinger discussed
10:33 < aestetix> but no, it's all just comey comey comey
10:34 <@Dolemite> Then there's the whole denying that Kislyak met with Trump, when the Russian press released pictures of them in the Oval Office...
10:34 < aestetix> And I have to side with the trump administration in that wtf, the democrats were all about firing Comey, then Trump did it, and now they are all opposed to firing Comey
10:35 < aestetix> I watched Feinstein grill Comey, and then make a statement that he was unfit. Hillary the same
10:35 < aestetix> And now they all suddenly love him
10:35 <@Dolemite> I agree that Comey was a stooge, but he was also the one leading the investigation that Trump claims he was told wasn't happening 3 times
10:44 <@dasunt> Who knows about chemistry?  I'm wondering if I buy some bulk permethrin at 10% or 33% solution and dilute it down to the 0.5% solution for treating clothes, if the inactive ingredients are likely to kill me or anything.
10:48 < dfused> no risk no reward
10:48 < xray> What problem are you trying to solve?
10:51 <@Dolemite> Kill ticks, but not self.
10:53 <@dasunt> Dolemite has got the asnwer.
10:53 <@dasunt> Need to treat some camping gear.
11:07 < dfused> meh....ddt works great
11:08 < dfused> run out of bug spray? use gas... they hate that stuff, so works great.   run out of charcoal lighter fluid?  use gas.... works great
11:13 <@Corydon76> dasunt: You're asking not about chemistry, but toxicology
11:13 <@Corydon76> "The dose makes the poison."
11:14 <@Corydon76> And the danger of dilution to make an insecticide less dangerous for humans is that it also makes it less dangerous to insects.
11:16 <@dasunt> Corydon76: The stuff sold for treating clothing is 0.5%.  The stuff sold for spraying down kennels and houses is 10% to 33%+.
11:16 <@dasunt> I'm curious what the other 90% - 66% is.  Inert ingredients, sure, but is it going to interfere with anything?
11:16 <@Corydon76> Permethrin also suffers from the fact that since it's derived from biological material, the concentration varies with each batch.
11:17 <@Corydon76> The rest of it probably contains some amount of preservative to help prevent degradation
11:18 <@Corydon76> If you dilute the concentration without reinforcing the preservative, you could inadvertently make the result ineffective
11:23 < xray> They make off the shelf Pyrethrin based lotions and sprays for doing this that are already at the right concentration.
11:24 < xray> Why are you trying to make your own?
11:24 < xray> A-200 Pyrinate, Barc, Lice-Enz, Licetrol, Pronto, R and C, RID, Tisit, Tisit Blue, and Triple X.
11:25 < xray> Applying pyrethrins to the skin in concentrations of 0.17% to 0.33% for 12-24 hours is effective for treating head lice and crab lice. Pyrethrins are usually combined with piperonyl butoxide (2% to 4%) to increase effectiveness.
11:28 < xray> https://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-SP657-Permethrin-Repellent/dp/B001ANQVYU
11:28 < PigBot> Title: Amazon.com: Sawyer Products SP649 Premium Permethrin Clothing Insect Repellent Trigger Spray, 12-Ounce (Spray Bottle Color May Vary): Sawyer: Sports & Outdoors (at www.amazon.com) http://tinyurl.com/meoxfqq
11:31 <@dasunt> xray: Because a bottle of the 0.5% stuff costs $10, and a quart of the 10% stuff costs $20.
11:32 <@dasunt> See:  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00061MSS0/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3PNUN7H1KV96E
11:32 < PigBot> Title: Amazon.com : Martins Permethrin 10%, 32oz - 1 Quart : Pet Flea And Tick Sprays : Patio, Lawn & Garden (at www.amazon.com) http://tinyurl.com/k872d85
11:58 < xray> Google how to do a titration
11:58 < xray> that is the process used to make a solution with a known concentration of a chemical
12:23 <@dasunt> That doesn't worry me.  I wonder what the common "inactive" ingredients are.
12:53 <@Catonic> inert stuff
12:53 <@Catonic> like helium
12:54 <@Catonic> or sand
12:54 <@Catonic> or cellulose (wood/cotton)
12:56 <@Dagmar> DEADLY DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE
12:56 <@dasunt> I'm hoping water.
12:56 <@dasunt> I'd hate it to be something like oil.
13:22 <@Dagmar> FWIW just about every type of bug poison is priced the same way
13:37 < xray> Part of the cost of making it usable as a topical by humans is the liability costs.
13:42 <@Catonic> NORMAL SALINE
13:42 <@Catonic> as opposed to ABNORMAL SALINE
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14:04 <@dasunt> ABNORMAL SALINE WILL KILL YOU!
14:08 < dfused> WHY ARE WE YELLING?
14:25 <@Catonic> because H2O is deadly.
14:26 < dfused> nah...in minor doses its ok
14:26 < dfused> like rum
14:41 <@dasunt> Only when mixed with safe alcohol or caffiene.
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15:40 <@dasunt> When did modern computing peak for usability?
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16:34 <@Dagmar> Wheee
16:34 <@Dagmar> I checked some of the shifty third-party app stores for my latest app
16:34 <@Dagmar> Hundreds of 0-star ratings.
16:34 <@Dagmar> LOLOLOL
16:35 <@Dagmar> It turns out people don't like it when an app says "This app is incompatible with your device because you've been doing unsafe things."
16:35 <@Dagmar> What a _shame_
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17:20 <@Catonic> nice
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