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00:24 < aestetix> ok so
00:24 < aestetix> http://legistar.council.nyc.gov/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=2972217&GUID=0D8289B8-5F08-4E6F-A0D1-2120EF7A0DCA&Options=Advanced&Search=
00:24 < PigBot`> Title: The New York City Council - File #: Int 1482-2017 (at legistar.council.nyc.gov) http://tinyurl.com/k3bh43l
00:24 < aestetix> NYC is now debating a privacy policy like we did in Oakland
00:24 < aestetix> when is Nashville joining in?
00:24 < aestetix> or Atlanta
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06:20 <@rattle> NY also just made college free for folks from families that make less than $100k a year.  We sorta rock.
06:24 < dfused> is a nice thing.
06:24 < dfused> greanted most state colleges suck...but still
06:26 < dfused> rattle: how are they actually plannign to pay for it
06:34 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:34 < dfused> yar
06:36 <@Dolemite> rattle: Yeah, but $100k/year in NYC for a family is below poverty wages.  LOL
06:39  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
06:39 < aestetix> rattle: how are they paying for that?
06:40 < aestetix> Also, is that for four years or community colleges?
06:40 < aestetix> Then again I'm the hypocritical free market capitalist who is just fine paying an extra dollar in tax to make sure smart kids who qualify can go to school they can't afford
06:44 < aestetix> This has been fun
06:44 < aestetix> So while I am suffering the consquences of a feature using a bunch of nodejs and npm crap and promptly failing
06:44 < aestetix> (done in part to support react)
06:44 < aestetix> I've been able to share with colleagues all these gems of Zuckerberg from 10 years ago
06:44 < aestetix> https://www.cnet.com/news/say-what-young-people-are-just-smarter/
06:44 < aestetix> like this one
06:44 < PigBot`> Title: Say what? 'Young people are just smarter' - CNET (at www.cnet.com) http://tinyurl.com/l5zlfkb
06:49 <@Dolemite> aestetix: Most of what I've seen has been free state university and/or community college
06:50 <@Dolemite> Although many private universities have been offering free tuition to students who could get in, but came from families below an income threshold
06:50 <@Dolemite> When I was still at Vanderbilt they had already announced free tuition for anybody whose family made less than $100k/year.  However, tuition is only part of the cost.  You still have books and living expenses to cough up.
06:51 <@Dolemite> The flip side of that, though, is that it's tough to get admitted to Vanderbilt, compared to Middle TN State University, who pretty much has to take everybody.
06:51 < aestetix> Well as long as they keep up a GPA I think it's fine
06:52 < aestetix> I'm down with paying for poor kids to get a better education
06:52 < aestetix> As long as the "education" isn't drugs and all night parties
06:52 <@Dolemite> Yeah, but I'm not down with paying for somebody to cruise through 4 years of frat parties
06:52 < aestetix> hah
06:53 < dfused> 3.5 GPA  or you can go learn to weld or work on transmissions or something
06:53 <@Dolemite> I'm fine with 3.0
06:53 <@Dolemite> You can drop below that once and you're on probation.
06:56 < aestetix> wow
06:56 < aestetix> https://twitter.com/MerriamWebster/status/851602942037819392
06:57 < aestetix> https://www.merriam-webster.com/news-trend-watch/united-our-team-looked-for-volunteers-20170410
06:57 < PigBot`> Title: United: 'Our Team Looked for Volunteers' - Trending 4/10/2017 | Merriam-Webster (at www.merriam-webster.com) http://tinyurl.com/lugwr5c
06:57 < aestetix> You know you are having a bad PR day when the fucking dictionary corrects you
06:58 <@Dolemite> Well their statement is true
06:58 <@Dolemite> They asked for volunteers.  They escalated the offer.  Then they pulled out their trump cards and started randomly choosing people to remove.
06:59 <@Dolemite> So many people are asking like involuntary deboarding is something new.
06:59 <@Dolemite> I saw a LOT of it when I used to fly in Asia back in the early 2000s.  I just never saw someone refuse to get up when the security folks showed up.
07:02 < aestetix> Well the thing is
07:02 < aestetix> I don't think that's a reasonable thing to get security for.
07:02 < aestetix> I think the only reasonable thing to do is keep raising the bribe amount
07:03 < aestetix> Or start offering things like a new TV
07:04 <@Dolemite> Well, it's part of the terms and agreements when you buy a ticket
07:04 <@Dolemite> I'm not saying I like it or agree with it, but it is what it is
07:04 < aestetix> Who actually reads that
07:05 <@Dolemite> Lawyers for the airlines
07:05 <@Dolemite> It doesn't make it any less applicable
07:05 < aestetix> oh I know
07:05 < aestetix> I was comparing it to a software EULA
07:05 < aestetix> the 40 page document of legalese everyone just clicks ok on
07:06 <@Dolemite> So the root of the problem, though, is that EVERY airline (not just United) knows that they have to deadhead crews between locations, yet they don't actually reserve seats for them.
07:09 <@Dolemite> I don't know if it's because they have variability in the crews based on vacation requests, or if they run the numbers so tight that they don't really know who will be at the legal limit of how much they can work before a rest period.
07:10 <@Dolemite> The most likely scenario, though, is that they roll the dice that at least 4 people will miss their flight and the crew can be relocated without disruption.
07:12 <@Dolemite> Point being - I don't think anybody disagrees that the level of force used by the airport security was out of line.  Some will agree that the passenger's resistance was out of line.
07:14 <@Dolemite> As I flew last weekend and listened to the preflight announcements, the statement, "Federal law requires that passengers comply with all flight crew instructions," was a bit open ended.  What if the attended orders me to strip naked and bark like a dog?
07:18 < dfused> you'll do as your told.
07:21 < dfused> BWAAHAHAHA
07:21 < dfused> https://twitter.com/NickNicotera/status/851602092468731906
07:21 < PigBot`> Title: Nick Nicotera on Twitter: "Bad timing on your app update, @united! https://t.co/uA0O7vSo5D" (at twitter.com) http://tinyurl.com/lrn6xt5
07:22 < dfused> drag and drop feature..... goddammit I almost spit mah coffee
07:22 < aestetix> hahahahaha
07:23 < aestetix> is that real or a photoshop
07:23 < aestetix> It's too perfectly timed to be real
07:23 < dfused> dunno, i dont have the app
07:30 <@Dolemite> There's no update on the app, plus drag and drop would make zero sense for the feature it provides
07:32 < dfused> its still funny....shutup. =P
07:38 <@Dolemite> Yes, it's funny.  Just not real, since that was a question asked.
07:47 < dfused> who wants to buy a camper?  I've got a 2014 333FWFLS I need to get rid of
07:48 < aestetix> dfused: free shipping?
07:48 < dfused> lol
07:48 <@Dolemite> Heh, can't pull a fifth wheel.
07:48 <@Dolemite> Evilpig will give you $100 for it.  He has pickemup trucks.
07:49 < dfused> yeah 5th wheel gonna be hard to get rid of
07:49 < dfused> I've seen some lately go for 34K same model... I only need 30K
07:50 <@Dolemite> ok, $200, but you have to deliver and set up.
07:50 < dfused> hehe
08:07 < aestetix> I'll give you $20 for shipping
08:07 < aestetix> and I live near the airport so it's easy
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08:43 <@rattle> Word is the Pentagon issued a contract to United Airlines to remove Assad from Syria.
08:54 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-lVkVokYBg
08:54 < PigBot`> Title: Have You Pooped Today? (HumorBagel Comment Trolling!) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/luhqg9o
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09:15 <@dasunt> A camper is $34k?
09:16 <@dasunt> Now I feel a lot better about my camping gear prices.
09:16 < dfused> a 34" 5th wheel   yes
09:16 < dfused> erf...34'
09:17 <@dasunt> So just for shits and giggles, would you tell me how many nights you actually used this camper?
09:18 < aestetix> s/nights/hours/
09:18 < dfused> I lived in it for about 6 months....but 1. just me 2. I'm a neat freak, so you cant even tell
09:23 <@dasunt> That's actually pretty good.  My friends & family with campers tend to use them for maybe 10 days a year, tops.
09:24 < dfused> yeah, teh damn thing is in storage now yet I'm still paying loan cost plus insurance, plus yrly taxes (which are fucking insane)
09:24 <@Dolemite> Most folks with a fifth wheel that aren't retired seem to just find a campground to park them at most of the time, then drive from home to their campground on weekends.
09:24 <@Dolemite> So pretty much they're just vacation homes...  but if you bought it new, you paid for mobility you won't use
09:25 <@Dolemite> I'd rather put $34k into a small (not tiny) house out in the sticks
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10:17 < aestetix> man
10:17 < aestetix> the video of the old asian guy covered in blood saying "just kill me"
10:21 < aestetix> http://bgr.com/2017/04/10/united-passenger-video-just-kill-me-flight-3411/
10:21 < aestetix> I'm starting to wonder if that guy was in China during the Cultural Revolution and this gave him flashbacks
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15:47 <@rattle> This is cyberpunk as a mutherfucker.  https://www.lot2046.com/
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