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01:36 < aestetix> wow
01:36 < aestetix> https://www.twitch.tv/chainchompbraden
01:36 < PigBot> Title: Twitch (at www.twitch.tv) http://tinyurl.com/l9cckgl
01:36 < aestetix> this guy has been trying to beat/upload his mario maker level for 650 hours
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06:35 < xray> I love the smell of fresh coffee and vulnerabilities in the morning.
06:39 < dfused> this day doesnt exist yet.  still waiting on coffee to finish
06:39 < xray> Agreed, until the coffee is ready the day hasn't started.
06:40 < xray> So many types of coffee grind methods to choose from pour over grind, clever grind, drip grind, IV drip grind.
06:40 < dfused> hehe
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06:57 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:58 < dfused> yar
06:58 < xray> mornin
06:58 < xray> yar reminds me of the guy from Hot Fuzz
06:58 <@Dolemite> yar
06:58 < xray> or a pirate
06:59 < dfused> I was pretty much raised near/on the ocean so always liked pairates.
06:59 < dfused> pirates.
07:00 < dfused> two sips o coffee is not enoug to get finger working correctly yet...
07:00 < xray> agreed
07:00 < xray> I was Navy so I like hunting pirates
07:00 < xray> Not that we did much of that
07:01 < xray> subs don't usually hunt for pirates
07:01 < xray> two kinds of ships, submarines and targets
07:01 < dfused> lol
07:02 < xray> our fire control team moto "To hell with women and children, we go for tonnage."
07:02 < xray> we had the record for the longest hit with a subroc
07:02 < xray> at max range of the weapon
07:03 < dfused> nice
07:03 < xray> Now I hunt the bad guys on the internet
07:03 < dfused> next thing you know they'll be trying to put lasers on subs as well
07:04 < xray> We will as soon as we can catch a shark and steal the laser on it's head
07:04 < dfused> they'll be mad
07:04 < xray> sure but we are crazier than they are
07:04 < xray> or did you mean mad as in disgruntled?
07:05 < dfused> eithr or  ...their sharks
07:06 < xray> speaking of mad, I modded one of the fluorescent shop lights in my Mad Scientist Lair (TM) to use regular A19 LED light bulbs.
07:06 < xray> Works great and has 6400 lumens instead of 4800
07:06 < dfused> and uses nadda elec
07:07 < xray> 8.5W per bulb x 8 bulbs
07:07 < xray> now I have to mod the other 20
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07:11  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
07:12 < dfused> you're late.
07:12 < aestetix> Tut mir leid
07:14 < dfused> dont be sorry... be better
07:16 <@Dolemite> So we had a bonafide pants on head retarded moment in the DC yesterday
07:17 < aestetix> what happened?
07:17 <@Dolemite> One of the CRAY techs was trying to remove a cable from the cabinet because it was intermittently wiggling loose, etc.
07:17 < aestetix> oh in a datacenter. I thought you meant Trump did something new
07:17 <@Dolemite> It was all wrapped around the other cables in the cabinet so he couldn't get it out
07:17 <@Dolemite> So he decided to cut the ends off to make it easier to pull out
07:18 < dfused> oh my
07:18 <@Dolemite> spark -> breaker trip -> stop work -> now I have 3 days of managing the occurrence and report up to DOE
07:19 <@Dolemite> So for those who don't realize this
07:19 < dfused> at least the breaker worked correctly
07:19 <@Dolemite> You can unplug the cord going from Power Supply 2 to the power strip...  but if it's still plugged into the power strip, there's no guarantee that it's not a live wire
07:20 <@Dolemite> A lot of multi supply devices have backfeed leakage
07:35 < dfused> backfeed leakage.....teehee
07:36 <@Dolemite> Nearly as bad as anal leakage
07:36 <@Evilpig> that type of thing can lead to anal leakage
07:36 <@Evilpig> definitely a code brown moment
07:36 <@Dolemite> Anyway, 208VAC @ 15A.  Caused a spark.  Had he contacted it, his heart would most likely either be in afib or stopped.
07:37 <@Dolemite> Of course, it caused the breaker to trip, so the short was definitely well over 15A
07:38 < _NSAKEY> Dolemite: Do you think he's smart enough to know how close he came to acquiring a Darwin Award?
07:38 < _NSAKEY> Or is he too stupid for that much self-awareness?
07:38 <@Dolemite> He is now
07:39 <@Dolemite> And after being dragged in front of management for the critique this afternoon, even more so
07:54 < aestetix> Wait
07:54 < aestetix> He cut a power cord without unplugging it first?
07:55 <@Dolemite> yeah
07:56 < aestetix> wow
07:56 <@Dolemite> ok, time for worky work
07:56 <@Dolemite> or at least to get some done.  I've been here for 2 hours.
07:57 < dfused> overrated.
07:57 < aestetix> Maybe he could get a side job touching power lines to make sure they are still working
08:05 < aestetix> http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/trump-lawyers-swipe-at-teen-cat-website-983518
08:05 < PigBot> Title: Trump Lawyers Swipe at Teen Over Cat Website | Hollywood Reporter (at www.hollywoodreporter.com) http://tinyurl.com/lazahv4
08:05 < dfused> old news.
08:05 <@rattle> That's one of the better datacenter #fail stories I've heard in awhile.
08:06 < aestetix> Maybe you can get him a metal fork that says "power strip testing tool" on the side
08:08 < ^020d> In high school we used bent paper clips held by a book for that.
08:10 <@rattle> How much compute in total was taken out?  Like, a cabinet, row, quad, room, etc?
08:14 <@Dolemite> None
08:14 <@Dolemite> He was replacing a failed redundant component
08:15 <@Dolemite> only tripped breaker on one side of dual fed cabinet
08:16 <@Dolemite> So the issue was less of a compute outage and more of a case of - stop work, because what he thought he was cutting isn't what he cut, so do we now have an energized, cut cable somewhere in the mess of this cabinet?
08:17 < aestetix> Toss some aluminum foil on the mess. If nothing happens, you're good.
08:17 <@Dolemite> Yeah...    sure
08:17 < aestetix> I actually speak from experience here
08:18 < aestetix> Years ago I was at a party at a warehouse in Baltimore, on the top floor. The warehouse happened to be right next to a massive power transformer that powered several city blocks.
08:18 < ^020d> Cup of water is a better test that foil.
08:18 < aestetix> And this drunk kid thought it would be funny to toss a roll of foil onto the transformer to see what happened.
08:18 < ^020d> :s/that/than
08:18 < aestetix> Knocked out the power for the whole neighborhood.
08:18 < ^020d> boom.
08:19 <@Dolemite> Field mice, squirrels, and raccoons are even better.
08:19 <@Dolemite> Renewable resources
08:19 < ^020d> Problem: smell
08:19 <@Dolemite> I have had issues with all three here
08:19 < ^020d> Squirrels are the best hackers
08:19 < dfused> yup
08:19 <@Dolemite> No, there's pretty much no smell left after one is turned inside out by 141,000 Volt switchgear
08:20 < aestetix> It was sort of like what happens when you leave the foil on a sandwich when you microwave it
08:20 < ^020d> Charcoal making device
08:20 < ^020d> I have never done this.
08:20 < aestetix> Except on a machine about 6 stories high
08:20 <@Dolemite> We have our own substations on campus and get direct feeds from TVA, so it comes in at that wonderful voltage
08:21 <@Dolemite> Steps down to 15kV before it comes to our building, then to 480V inside the door.  Our varmints are all outside issues.
08:21 < ^020d> There seems to be a lack of microwaving foiled sandwich videos on youtube... please fill that gap.
08:24 < ^020d> I've CAUGHT foil in the microwave, and noticed the Star Wars like blaster burns along the side, but have never LEFT something in there til it turned into something form a John Carpenter movie.
08:24 < aestetix> https://wikileaks.org/vault7/darkmatter/?cia
08:24 < aestetix> enjoy
08:24 < PigBot> Title: WikiLeaks - Vault 7: Projects (at wikileaks.org) http://tinyurl.com/kwvbv3f
08:27 < aestetix> Looks like we just lost all hope of a slow news day
08:31 <@rattle> The last good one I personally had to deal with was a PDU that blew and wound up sending current into the ground.  It managed to take itself out and the adjacent two racks.
08:32 <@rattle> Dolemite: I'm sure you've seen this...  http://cybersquirrel1.com/
08:32 < PigBot> Title: CyberSquirrel1.com (at cybersquirrel1.com) http://tinyurl.com/q83y8m5
08:32 < ^020d> I remember back when part of the Win 2000 source code leaked. A lot of guys were saying don't ever read it, you'll ruin your career, etc... govt jobs will ask you if you've ever seen it, blah blah...  is there an actual risk taking a look at some of the leaked code?
08:32 < aestetix> nope
08:32 < aestetix> If you have clearance, yes.
08:32 < aestetix> Otherwise, no.
08:34 <@rattle> If it involves a patent you pollute yourself if you know beforehand, and are great fodder for legal challenges that could be tossed at your company.
08:36 <@rattle> So, there is some truth to that.  If you studied the source code, then went off an did anything that challenged Microsoft, they could come up with bullshit legal arguments to poke at your company, which is most cases would result in you getting fired and having a really shitty career narrative.
08:36 <@rattle> At the time, that wasn't bad advice.
08:37 < ^020d> At the time Microsoft was controlling the whole PC software world
08:37 <@Corydon76> In other words, only look at it in a way that cannot be traced back to you and gives you plausible deniability.
08:37 <@Mirage> holy shit, it's tiggles!
08:37  * Mirage hugs
08:38 <@Corydon76> No, it's not.  You're imagining things.  You're still asleep.  Wake up, Neo.
08:38 <@Mirage> Yeah, probably the allergy medicine induced coma
08:39 < ^020d> Ahhh yes... the yellow swirls in puddles are beginning again
08:41 < ^020d> The first time I saw that I thought someone spilt paint in a parking lot.
08:42 <@Corydon76> Might also be new side effecs from your nootropic cocktail
08:42 <@rattle> aestetix: This might be amusing today.  https://www.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ:AAPL
08:42 < PigBot> Title: Apple Inc.: NASDAQ:AAPL quotes & news - Google Finance (at www.google.com) http://tinyurl.com/3ulecb8
08:42 < aestetix> Hi Corydon76
08:42 < ^020d> (╬☉д⊙)  Pollen is different here!
08:43 < aestetix> rattle: I am in favor of anything that hurts Apple's stock price
08:45 <@Corydon76> That only makes sense if you're shorting the stock
08:45 < ^020d> Why's it down today?  They announced the hacked account hostage thing was a scam, that should bring it UP?
08:50 < dfused> everything is going to be ok.... its National Puppy Day
08:54 <@Corydon76> Oh, apparently, a stock analyst on CNBC yesterday suggested there was likely to be a market correction soon.  So people are selling off in anticipation of a drop.
08:59 < ^020d> Well I ... h e a r d ... there's going to be a YUGE selloff tmw.
08:59  * ^020d shorts Apple stock...
09:12 < aestetix> wow
09:13 < aestetix> When I lived in Oakland, I was paying around $1200 a month rent when I left
09:13 < aestetix> I just looked up my old place on Zillow.... the current estimate is $2500 a month
09:13 <@Corydon76> I pay $1700/mo for my mansion in Tennessee
09:15 < frsilent> jeebus I thought I was getting reamed at $1250/mo
09:16 <@Corydon76> Sadly, mine is only half the size of the mansion down the street
09:17 < aestetix> I'm trying to remember how much space I had
09:17 < aestetix> between 700 and 1000 sq feet I think
09:17 <@Corydon76> I have 3300
09:17 < aestetix> whereas my current place I have around 110 sq meters
09:18 <@Corydon76> Converting:  1184 sq ft
09:18 < aestetix> something like that
09:19 <@Corydon76> That's the size of my old house
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10:00 <@Corydon76> ^020d: I note that Apple has recovered most of the loss from earlier this morning already.
10:15 <@dasunt> aestetix: Zillow insanely overestimates my place, by about 40% in value.
10:17 <@dasunt> But even with my very small house (about the size of a two car garage), the sane estimtes shock me.
10:21 <@dasunt> A neighbor's house at 1 br/1 ba in what may be teardown condition sold for $90k.  1/8th acre lot.
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11:51 < aestetix> so one question about windows
11:51 < aestetix> does windows allow you to log in using public keys yet?
12:01 <@rattle> It has for years.  That's how military cac card systems work.
12:02 <@rattle> Or all smart card based systems, rather..
12:05 < aestetix> so can I ssh into windows?
12:08 < frsilent> as long as you're hosting the right server on it yeah
12:08 < frsilent> idk if windows bash supports openssh but cygwin and some of its fellow solutions work
12:09 < frsilent> I've been doing Android dev on a windows machine without problems for about a year now & use: http://babun.github.io/
12:09 < PigBot> Title: Babun - a windows shell you will love! (at babun.github.io) http://tinyurl.com/nv5a6rc
12:10 < frsilent> it has openssh in its pkm
12:35 < aestetix> So the answer is "yes with a hack"
12:42 < frsilent> idk if I would call that a hack; even with linux you have to run a server for ssh
12:42 < frsilent> same principle
12:42 < frsilent> https://winscp.net/eng/docs/guide_windows_openssh_server
12:42 < xray> Linux shell is now native to Windows 10
12:42 < PigBot> Title: Installing SFTP/SSH Server on Windows using OpenSSH :: WinSCP (at winscp.net) http://tinyurl.com/p7xoj7j
12:42 < xray> So no need to install 3rd party sshd
12:54 < aestetix> god
12:54 < aestetix> watching highlights from the Gorsuch hearing
12:54 < aestetix> It's just like the Benghazi hearings
12:54 < aestetix> except now it's democrats instead of republicans
12:54 < aestetix> They are all awful
13:54 <@dasunt> Unless this is the 20th or so Gorsuch hearing, they aren't equivalent.
14:33 < K`Tetch_> this is still the first gorsuch hearing, just day 3 of it
14:33 < K`Tetch_> and frankly, appointment for life, I'd rather they spent a few damned days on it
14:37 < aestetix> They are equivalent in being douchebags
14:38 < aestetix> The point is they keep playing these stupid fucking games
14:41 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RhUmhDCeqg
14:41 < PigBot> Title: WATCH LIVE: Judge Neil Gorsuch Supreme Court confirmation hearings - Day 4 - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/n226lvq
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14:46 < aestetix> ok this stream is better
14:46 < aestetix> they are discussing substantive issues now
14:47 < aestetix> I think yesterday I listened to Feinstein's absolute disaster of questions
14:51 <@dasunt> No transcript of yesterday that I could find.  :(
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16:24 <@dasunt> I'm not a communist, but I have to admit that Marx is one of the more interesting philosophers out there.
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