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06:25 < dfused> yay its thursday
06:30 < xray> I guess they don't teach physics in school anymore
06:30 < xray> commenting on the signal proof headwear
06:31 < xray> Assuming the hat reflects as stated it is a parabolic reflector with your head at the focal point.
06:31 < xray> Further down on the page it says the hat is radar invisible
06:31 < dfused> lol
06:31 < xray> It can't reflect RF and be radar invisible
06:32 < xray> It has to absorb RF
06:32 < xray> Or scatter the reflection at an angle that does not return to the transmitter
06:32 < _NSAKEY> xray: I bet even Alex Jones doesn't know that tinfoil focuses the mind control waves.
06:33 < xray> Who is Alex Jones?
06:33 < _NSAKEY> A well known nutjob.
06:33 < _NSAKEY> He's awfully pissed about the fact that we're putting things in the water to turn frogs gay, for example.
06:33 < dfused> ......goddamned kids and their pokemon, and their twatter...and and their.... snappleshat
06:34 < xray> That explains it, I pay no attention to the conspiracy theory, tin foil hat crowd
06:34 < xray> Actually it has nothing to do with us putting things in the water.
06:35 < xray> Some frogs can change sex spontaneously when there is an imbalance in the sexes
06:35 < xray> No human interaction necessary
06:35 < dfused> .... i hope youre being deadpan funny.  and not just knowitall
06:35 < dfused> cause...its too early for knowitall
06:36 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:36  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
06:37 < dfused> lol....and now the day can begin
06:37  * Dolemite lets out a little gas
06:37  * aestetix lights a match
06:37  * Dolemite watches aestetix's eyebrows go up in flames
06:42 < xray> I'm actually serious
06:42 < xray> If people read more they wouldn't fall for the scams
06:42 < dfused> really?
06:43 < dfused> ....hence our point of mocking the man and his followers.
06:43 < aestetix> xray: I don't think anything is taught in school anymore except self esteem
06:43  * dfused goes back into the kitchen.....apparently he's not had enough coffee yet.
06:45 < xray> and that is pseudo self esteem at that
06:45 < xray> so they aren't learning anything at all
06:45 < xray> Oh yes more coffee
06:46 < xray> coffee . . . coffee . . coffee
06:46 < xray> I'll stop chanting now and go get some
06:47 < dfused> nom nom....mah butter coffee
06:50 < dfused> self esteem....pfft.  the hell they do.  when they teach kids that they are not allowed to fight back for themselves and that everyone gets awards for participating in a competition. ....there is no self esteem built up there. ....no confidence in a bility to accomplish things in the world
06:50 < xray> If you have anything in coffee besides coffee it's no longer coffee but is now a coffee flavored drink.
06:51 < xray> Nothing wrong with coffee flavored drinks but they really aren't coffee
06:51 < xray> Why add butter to coffee?
06:51 < dfused> da da....but the butter helps feed the fat needs for mah brain and get things moving.  provides fuel besides caffeine
06:51 < _NSAKEY> dfused: They were pushing that "don't fight back" nonsense in the 90s. From what I've observed, it seems to have only gotten worse.
06:51 < xray> OK that's actually makes sense
06:52 < dfused> _NSAKEY: it has.  one kid gets his ass beat, both get suspended ...no questions asked. ...i guess it teaches you how to blend and how to fall into the shadows like a spu
06:52 < xray> I was referring to the butter coffee
06:52 < xray> but I agree about the self esteem comment
06:53 < _NSAKEY> dfused: Yeah, it was like that as soon as the late 90s. To me, it just disincentivized not fighting back.
06:53 < _NSAKEY> If you're going to get in trouble anyway, you might as well turn the other kid's face into hamburger, if the punishment for doing nothing is the same.
06:53 < xray> My dads rule. If I started the fight I got my but whipped. If I finished a fight and got suspended, no foul.
06:54 < dfused> I alwasy told my son... if you're in a corner and have no other option, beat the shit out of the opponent.  I'll handle the scchool board.
06:54 < xray> I was taught that there is no such thing as a fair fight.
06:55 < _NSAKEY> xray: That's kind of how it was for me, once it became apparent that the school system wasn't going to handle things with any fairness. As long as I didn't start it, I got in zero trouble at home.
06:55 < xray> If you are going to fight, then use all resources at your disposal to win.
06:56 < xray> If you have to turn your back on your opponent make certain he is incapable of getting up and coming after you.
06:56 < dfused> xray: absolutely.  if no other option, then fight to win. period. ...like war, dont go over and try to be friends once bombs have started being dropped..... fight to win... cuase they damn sure are
06:56 < xray> Needless to say I didn't get in many fights.
06:56 < xray> It only took a couple and people realized it was a bad idea as they may walk funny the rest of their life.
06:56 < xray> Agreed
06:57 < dfused> personally... I've always preferred the akido way of thinsg..
06:57 < xray> Overwhelming force
06:57 < _NSAKEY> xray: Some anecdata: I took the opposite approach and kept having to fight the same kids repeatedly until I just started getting nasty.
06:57 < xray> No such thing as nasty in a fight
06:57 < xray> If you fight there are no rules
06:58 < dfused> now the shit head is 6'2" more abs than I ever had.. and does parkour.   to which I make sure to tell him that I could still kick his ass.
06:58 < xray> When put in that context you try to avoid them but if pushed into fighting it will be the last time your opponent does so
07:00 < xray> Have you heard this new nonsense about symmetric warfare?
07:01 < dfused> erm...not really.  sounds like perhaps both sides fighting given known outcomes and doing it anyway
07:01 < xray> There are two types symmetric and asymmetric
07:02 < dfused> natrually
07:02 < xray> symmetric is when both parties are evenly matched
07:02 < dfused> fuck I cant type today
07:02 < xray> asymmetric is when they are mismatched
07:02 < _NSAKEY> xray: What's the new nonsense about it?
07:03 < dfused> i thgouth the asymetric also involved knowing that the other side is gonna (or very likely) to lose which is why the stronger sides fights
07:03 < xray> That we will not use the full force of our military when they enemy is not as capable.
07:03 < dfused> oh that is stupid.
07:03 < xray> Exactly
07:03 < dfused> and only serves to prolong the damn war
07:03 < _NSAKEY> xray: Because let's drag conflicts out needlessly?
07:04 < xray> I didn't even know about it until a week agot
07:04 < xray> Yes
07:04 < xray> I suppose it came into existence when we got nukes.
07:04 < dfused> wonder which "lets all get along and lover each other" jackass is pushing that agenda
07:05 < xray> We go to war but don't though the kitchen sink at them.
07:05 < dfused> I prefer, lets get over there.... deal with this issue, solve it. come home.
07:05 < xray> Once that precedent was set I think it started the slippery slide
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07:07 < xray> I don't know how much it impacts the U.S. current warfare strategy though.
07:07 < xray> The context I heard it in was European fighters in Afghanistan.
07:08 < dfused> unsure.  last big nws I heard was 1st mardiv just dropped into syria with 11th MEU to take the fiht to isis via large artillery and the good ol marine fuck you
07:10 < dfused> ok ...enough venting... gotta get to working on this other crap
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07:41 <@Dagmar> No, don't think in terms of strategy.  That's not how this works.
07:41 <@Dagmar> What you should be thinking of is "What makes the most money for Halliburton?"
07:41 <@Dagmar> Because what matters is the bottom line of the defense contractors.
07:46 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: You missed a good meeting last week. One of the newer regulars showed off some legit reverse engineering work on automotive computers.
07:47 <@Dagmar> I figured no one would really appreciate me bringing pneumonia for show & tell
07:48 <@Evilpig> I'd appreciate it
07:53 <@Dagmar> Wataching Legion... I've never seen anyone other than Tony Stark be this smug
08:03 <@Dagmar> JESUS
08:05 <@Dagmar> One almost wonders why he didn't just rip the top off the building
08:36 <@rattle> Meanwhile, in NYC, not PhreakNIC..  http://www.pinknic.com/
08:36 < PigBot> Title: Pinknic (at www.pinknic.com) http://tinyurl.com/jtw7z8u
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09:03 < aestetix> man
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09:03 < aestetix> It seems like every internet forum has turned to shit
09:04 < aestetix> I stopped using twitter because it was intolerable. And now the same thing is happening to a number of other sites
09:04 < aestetix> At this rate I'll only be able to look at a few select youtube channels and wikipedia
09:10 <@Dagmar> So stop participating in the ruining of everything
09:10 <@Dagmar> Stop making stupid SJWs famous
09:44 <@Evilpig> aestetix: look at none of them, your world will improve
09:44 <@Evilpig> at least you outlook on the world will improve.
09:44 < aestetix> yeah that seems to be the best answer
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13:00 < K`Tetch> i try to keep torrentfreak's comments tollerable
13:18 <@Evilpig> any nashville folks interested?  https://www.ticketfly.com/purchase/event/1356917?_ga=1.66394542.161860722.1489084741
13:18 < PigBot> Title: Mac Sabbath - Tickets - Exit/In - Nashville, TN, March 15, 2017 | Ticketfly (at www.ticketfly.com) http://tinyurl.com/joydekk
13:42 <@Dolemite> I'll bet Trump will be there
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