--- Log opened Thu Feb 09 00:00:30 2017 00:11 -!- klixa-cloud [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-awsnlxsfqldhtasj] has joined #se2600 00:11 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa-cloud] by ChanServ 00:32 -!- NotLarry_ [~NotLarry@wilpig.org] has joined #se2600 00:32 -!- dfused_ [~dfused@nc-184-0-129-199.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #se2600 00:33 -!- NotLarry [~NotLarry@wilpig.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:33 -!- dfused [~dfused@nc-184-0-129-199.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:50 -!- cyberanger [~cyberange@swissknife/adak/infocop411] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:49 -!- remoford [~remo_lapt@c-68-52-35-32.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:55 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ac80:d900:cc18:1fe8:e332:e82e] has quit [] 01:56 -!- LastChild [~pi@c-98-193-192-163.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 01:56 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o LastChild] by ChanServ 01:59 <@LastChild> 600] apt-get install screen irssi 01:59 <@LastChild> oops 02:11 -!- LastChild [~pi@c-98-193-192-163.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has left #se2600 [] 02:14 -!- LastChild [~pi@c-98-193-192-163.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 02:14 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o LastChild] by ChanServ 02:26 -!- LastChild [~pi@c-98-193-192-163.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:31 -!- LastChild [~RasPi@c-98-193-192-163.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 02:31 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o LastChild] by ChanServ 02:36 -!- klixa-cloud [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-awsnlxsfqldhtasj] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 02:57 -!- scam [~sicsscam@dynamic-acs-24-154-71-208.zoominternet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:23 -!- scam [~sicsscam@dynamic-acs-24-154-71-208.zoominternet.net] has joined #se2600 03:51 -!- remoford [~remo_lapt@c-68-52-35-32.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 04:33 -!- remoford [~remo_lapt@c-68-52-35-32.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:25 -!- scoob [~scoob@fsf/member/scoob] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:21 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 06:33 * aestetix hugs Dolemite 06:41 <@Dolemite> Damage Report 06:41 <@Dolemite> Any cheetoh emperor tweets overnight? New Executive Orders requiring stores to carry his daughter's lines of fashion products? 06:42 < aestetix> So if you want a fun time 06:42 < aestetix> google for the term "I am woke" 06:43 < aestetix> it's the stupidest fucking thing I have ever seen 06:45 < xray> This is seriously awesome http://svds.com/tensorflow-image-recognition-raspberry-pi/ 06:45 < PigBot> Title: TensorFlow Image Recognition on a Raspberry Pi - Silicon Valley Data Science (at svds.com) http://tinyurl.com/h5fj5wq 06:46 < xray> and a bit creepy 06:47 -!- dfused_ [~dfused@nc-184-0-129-199.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:50 -!- remoford [~remo_lapt@c-68-52-35-32.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 07:11 -!- remoford [~remo_lapt@c-68-52-35-32.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:08 <@Dolemite> aestetix: Today is Dagmar's birthday, so be sure to give him extra hugs and snuggles 08:08 < aestetix> Dagmar: are you woke? 08:09 <@Dagmar> Nope. Way too early for that 08:22 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ac80:d900:cc18:1fe8:e332:e82e] has joined #se2600 08:28 < rattle> Damn. Bitcoin just plummeted like 5% like all zoom zoom. 08:34 < aestetix> you know what's boring 08:34 < aestetix> watching a database import 08:39 < aestetix> man 08:39 < aestetix> trump needs to lay off twitter 08:41 <@Dagmar> Yay! 08:41 <@Dagmar> I want it to drop more 08:42 <@Dagmar> ...because I am a cheap bastard and want my bitcoins cheap. THEN it can go back over $1k/ea and I won't care 08:43 < aestetix> This reminds me of a friend of mine from a few years ago 08:43 < aestetix> He spent like a year as a contractor in Iraq, and made a ton of money 08:43 < aestetix> So he spent half of it on drugs, and the other half on bitcoin 08:44 <@Dagmar> He's a rich mofo now I'll wager 08:44 < aestetix> So he'd travel all over the place to rave parties, do drugs, and then trade bitcoin 08:44 < aestetix> I was actually at a party with him once where he was on some research chemical, and mid-trip he pulled out his computer to check the price of bitcoin 08:45 -!- scoob [~scoob@fsf/member/scoob] has joined #se2600 08:45 < aestetix> Dagmar: well he ran into a problem when he got arrested for possession of a bunch of drugs, and the police confiscated his computer 08:46 < aestetix> Which had his bitcoin wallet on it 08:46 < aestetix> I'm not sure if he ever got the computer back 08:47 < aestetix> Although it was funny because, since they were research chemicals, the court did not have an established test to confirm that he had illegal drugs, and so his lawyer made the case he just had a bunch of flour and the state was unable to prove otherwise 08:47 < aestetix> It wound up being more expensive to do the tests than it was worth, so they aquitted him 08:47 < aestetix> The best part was, at the end of it all, he formally requested back his "flour" 09:06 <@Dagmar> That's one good reason why one should _backup_ one's wallet 09:07 < rattle> There is a very good argument that managing your own wallet is stupid. 09:09 <@Dagmar> I've got a couple that have less than two dollars between them. I *still* back them up 09:10 <@Dagmar> ...and those are the ones that I actually let stay on my phone. 09:11 <@Dagmar> Tangentally to that, Coinbase's transfer fees seem pretty reasonable 09:11 <@Dagmar> Looks like they're mainly there to absorb the normal costs of the transactions 09:12 <@Dagmar> Buck fiddy on bank transfers, four percent on things that go through Visa/MC's network 09:58 < rattle> I love a good snow storm. 10:10 < K`Tetch> anyone ever sent things to Canon for service? 10:11 < xray> https://www.humblebundle.com/books/hacks-book-bundle 10:11 < PigBot> Title: Humble Book Bundle: Hacks presented by OReilly (pay what you want and help charity) (at www.humblebundle.com) http://tinyurl.com/jt9bdlh 10:46 < aestetix> oh fun 10:46 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxttor4zDos 10:46 < PigBot> Title: Jeff Sessions Swearing in as Attorney General by Donald Trump 2/9/17 - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/htyt29x 10:46 < aestetix> and a few new EOs 10:47 <@Dolemite> K`Tetch: Yes. It's a painful process. 11:12 < K`Tetch> ok Dolemite, sent my video camera in yestserday, its gonigfrom ATL to VA now... 11:13 <@Dolemite> My wife had a lens that had a piece fall off of it - one of those slider buttons. She went round and round and round arguing with them about it needing to be fixed under warranty. 11:14 < K`Tetch> my camera constantly fails to record to SD cards, except at the lowest quality setting (4Mbit) 11:14 < K`Tetch> even with class10 c ards, it says 'can't write fast enough'. 11:14 < K`Tetch> also, camera will crash when you use the wifi mode 11:15 < xray> Class 10 sets a minimum speed. 11:15 < xray> that is acceptable to be called class 10 11:15 < K`Tetch> yes, of 10 megabytes/sec 11:15 < K`Tetch> the fastest the camera does is 35 Mbit 11:15 < xray> kind of like saying your car can do at least 45 miles an hour 11:16 < xray> per second 11:16 < xray> ? 11:16 < K`Tetch> yes 11:16 < K`Tetch> https://www.dropbox.com/s/gikbzhx1s6up36v/sdcard%20writespeed%20test%20for%20canon.png?dl=0 11:16 < xray> that's only 4.4 MB/s 11:16 < PigBot> Title: Dropbox - sdcard writespeed test for canon.png (at www.dropbox.com) http://tinyurl.com/gv4rv46 11:16 <@Dagmar> That sounds like the camera itself is broken 11:16 < K`Tetch> exactly, hence sending it back 11:16 <@Dagmar> " 11:17 <@Dagmar> Class 10 is quite capable of taking full-sized video from an Android phone 11:17 < K`Tetch> I know, I have used the same card in my wife's phone doing 4k 11:17 < xray> class 6 will be "more stable" what kind of drugs are they on? 11:18 < _NSAKEY> xray: Not the fun kind, clearly. 11:18 < xray> I think the interface chip in the camera is sensitive to the brand of card. 11:18 < xray> or even manufacturing run of a specific model of card. 11:18 < xray> that's a design problem 11:19 < xray> is this a know issue with the camera? 11:19 <@Dagmar> They're fucking talking out of their hats about the class 6 thing 11:19 <@Dagmar> ...especially with the talk of "possible variable speed" 11:20 <@Dagmar> That a class 10 card might be able to be written to at 10Mb/s sometimes and 15Mb/s others isn't going to change the fact that if it's class 10 there's a _hard minimum speed requirement_ of 10Mb/s or it can't be called class 10 11:20 <@Dagmar> I'd tell Torrey he's full of shit and email a complaint to the manager of the CS department 11:20 < xray> SSD devices do have different write speeds depending on file size 11:21 <@Dagmar> yeah but that's a matter of file creation/replacement overhead 11:21 <@Dagmar> A video camera writing video is writing to _one_ file continuousls and is only paying that cost once 11:21 < xray> I don't think it's enough to make a class 10 look like a class 6 11:21 <@Dagmar> They're just spinning pure bullshit about class 6 11:21 <@Dagmar> It's literally some shit that person is making up 11:22 < K`Tetch> indeed, and just to make sure, I speedtested my card, as you can see 11:22 <@Dagmar> SDcards can get "slow" when you write new files because it 11:22 <@Dagmar> s got a few minor tasks to deal with for wear-leveling 11:23 <@Dagmar> ...but it's not something that can make the card significantly slower for writing a single file in one go 11:24 <@Dagmar> Like, copying one 100Mb file onto a card is going to always and easily exceed 10Mb/s 11:24 < K`Tetch> when it's failing at not jsut the 35mbit, but the 24 and 17mbit settings as well, that's a problem 11:24 <@Dagmar> Copying 10,000 10Kb files is going to be fucking slow 11:25 <@Dagmar> Seriously tho. Their tech support people gave you a bullshit response 11:25 <@Dagmar> Send another query asking for a response from someone that's not going to just make things up 11:25 < xray> https://kb-eu.sandisk.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4984/~/canon-vixia-or-legria-camcorder-shows-error-using-class-10-sdhc-memory-cards 11:25 < PigBot> Title: Canon Vixia or Legria camcorder shows error using Class 10 SDHC memory cards (at kb-eu.sandisk.com) http://tinyurl.com/htvtpyj 11:26 < xray> seems they have a hardware problem on the camera and it needs a firmware update to handle class 10 cards 11:26 < K`Tetch> thats the 10, and 20 series. curbob's R40 had a firmware update needed, I've the R60 11:26 <@Dagmar> Seems like someone did something fucking stupid in the firmware of the phone 11:26 < xray> never mind the r60 isn't listed 11:27 <@Dagmar> A card having a faster write speed should never cause an issue like this 11:27 < K`Tetch> R60 is the model that they JUST replaced, last few months 11:27 <@Dagmar> I have kind of benched a few sdcards nearly to death recently after that spate of my RPI eating them 11:28 <@Dagmar> This is why I'm practically jumping up and down about how bullshit their response was 11:28 < K`Tetch> yeah, I know 11:31 < K`Tetch> also, got this tuesday "Finally, your camera does not support memory cards using the UHS-I or UHS-II standards. Some such cards will have "UHS-I, UHS-II or UHS-III on them. Others will have a "1", "2" or "3" superimposed on a "U". While these cards should be backward compatible with older memory card standards, not all of them will work" 11:31 < K`Tetch> so.. what if my card is marked BOTH 'class10' and UHS1? 11:32 * K`Tetch is going to write this shit up. 11:33 <@Dagmar> They mean the exact same thing 11:33 <@Dagmar> They're just different standardizations 11:33 <@Dagmar> UHS classifications just go higher is all 11:34 < K`Tetch> I know 11:48 < xray> K`Tetch; did you see the announcement that the Atlanta EFF chapter is starting up again? 11:48 < K`Tetch> no 11:48 < xray> sorry Georgia EFF chapter 11:48 < xray> not everything is about Atlanta 11:48 < K`Tetch> :-) 11:49 < xray> It was posted on DC404 11:49 < xray> mail list 11:49 < xray> I'll forward it to you 11:50 < K`Tetch> thanks 11:50 < xray> sent two emails 11:50 < K`Tetch> gotem 11:51 < xray> If you have ever wondered why atlanta is called the silicon valley of information security 11:51 < xray> https://s3.amazonaws.com/relato.public/Atlanta_Security_Cluster.png 11:51 < K`Tetch> oh, scott's running it :-| 11:52 < xray> ANd there are are a lot of companies not shown on the drawing 11:52 < xray> Scott used to run it before 11:52 < xray> not sure why it died the first time 11:52 < K`Tetch> because of interpersonal issues 11:53 < K`Tetch> also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Frontiers_Georgia#Website_problems 11:53 < xray> did you work with them back then 11:53 < PigBot> Title: Electronic Frontiers Georgia - Wikipedia (at en.wikipedia.org) http://tinyurl.com/haa2q5h 11:53 < K`Tetch> no 11:53 < xray> So why was TuCows being jerks? 11:53 < K`Tetch> scott told me (shis side of) the story a few years back, I think while we were waiting for a Doctoro talk 12:30 -!- overfien [~overfien@23.105.70.241] has joined #se2600 12:31 -!- rhia [~rhia@2601:601:4000:da79:82ee:73ff:fe64:1308] has joined #se2600 12:31 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rhia] by ChanServ 15:20 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 15:21 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 15:38 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: klixa] 16:20 <@Dagmar> A certain person involved in that was being quite a tool. 16:24 < rattle> I remember many a public fight with Costner. 16:25 <@Dagmar> Yeah that was his name 16:25 <@Dagmar> I couldn't remember it and was actually pleased that I'd forgotten him 16:25 -!- benthemeek [~Thunderbi@zixgateway02.nhccare.com] has quit [Quit: benthemeek] 16:25 < rattle> The EFGA really did matter when that completely shitty Georgia bill was going down. In the big picture decius is the real hero of that organization. 16:26 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ac80:d900:cc18:1fe8:e332:e82e] has quit [] 16:26 < rattle> At least, during that period. 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