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06:27 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:39  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
06:40 < aestetix> I still can't get over how an 8 year old can be fluent in german, french, and english
06:41 < aestetix> and I can barely speak english :p
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08:28 <@Dagmar> Fucking noobasses
08:28 <@Dagmar> http://checkyourbackups.work/
08:28 < PigBot> Dagmar: That URL appears to have no HTML title.
08:28 < _NSAKEY> I saw that too.
08:30 <@Dagmar> I suspect #1 is a fucking lie, because LVM snapshots simply don't work that way
08:30 <@Dagmar> ...and #3 I'm going to go ahead and say is indicative of the root cause
08:30 <@Dagmar> ...which is "Windows people pretending to know what they're doing"
08:31 < aestetix> who the hell uses azure
08:31 <@Dagmar> Fucking windows idiots
08:31 <@Dagmar> That's who
08:31 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: You would be shocked and horrified.
08:31 < aestetix> Dagmar: did you see their full document?
08:31 < aestetix> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GCK53YDcBWQveod9kfzW-VCxIABGiryG7_z_6jHdVik/pub
08:31 < PigBot> Title: GitLab.com Database Incident - 2017/01/31 (at docs.google.com) http://tinyurl.com/gr8qxzo
08:32 <@Dagmar> They havent' even done their AAR yet for obvs reasons
08:32 < aestetix> what is AAR
08:33 < aestetix> also this term "hugops" is annoying
08:33 <@Dagmar> after action report
08:33 < aestetix> oh
08:33 < aestetix> that's because it's still in process
08:33 < aestetix> gitlab.com is down
08:34 < _NSAKEY> "hugops" sounds like something that only happens in "safe spaces."
08:35 < aestetix> maybe someone should send a box of pony outfits to gitlab
08:43 < aestetix> that said
08:43 < aestetix> I don't really like this whole radical transparency crap
08:44 < aestetix> It kind of turns your work into a spectator sport
08:44 < aestetix> instead of having your boss looking over your shoulder, now there are thousands of people
08:46 < _NSAKEY> I can understand the desire to be transparent, but they should save it for a report after the fact.
08:46 < _NSAKEY> Although, I imagine a lot of their target audience would rage if they just said "Shit's fucked up, brb." with no further comment.
08:47 < aestetix> well, the reasons I can see for doing this...
08:47 < aestetix> 1. you want to show off how good your team is (but then why did you get downtime)
08:47 < aestetix> 2. you're kind of clueless and need to ask the community for help
08:47 < aestetix> 3. you're getting a lot of angry customers and decide to do this instead of making periodic updates
08:48 < aestetix> 4. you're a worthless millennial who already whores themselves out on facebook so this feels no different
08:48 < _NSAKEY> I'm going to guess a mix of 2 and 3.
08:48 < aestetix> using azure tends towards 2
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08:53 <@Dagmar> Well, this sort of notebook approach is fine prior to an AAR, but... in this case it exposes that a whole bunch of people were basically asleep at the switch
08:54 <@Dagmar> ...and a whole bunch of folks weren't actually testing what they deployed.
08:54 <@Dagmar> ...and a few things were being used _wrong_
09:02 < aestetix> also, the initials
09:02 < aestetix> might as well give their twitter handles too
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09:04 <@Dagmar> "According to JN these don’t appear to be working, producing files only a few bytes in size."
09:04 <@Dagmar> Jumping holy rabbit crap why wasn't that being _monitored_
09:06 < aestetix> so basically the backup was an empty file that got gzipped
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09:19 <@Dagmar> ...and that should have been a detectable failure.
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10:18 < dasunt> Conversation I had outside a restaurant with another guy in a neighborhood where everyoen who passed us was nonwhite included the terms:  Strasserism, antifa, Brownshirts, Night of the Long Knives.
10:19 < dasunt> Somedays, I'm really glad our public education system is in the shitter.
10:20 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc0hPGerSd4
10:20 < PigBot> Title: GitLab Live Stream - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/z3s3f6e
10:20  * dasunt would rather not be mistaken for a nazi and punched.
10:24 < dasunt> aestetix: Live streaming a recovery?  Is that a special sort of sysadmin hell?
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10:25 < aestetix> I wouldn't do it
10:25 < aestetix> but it's fun to watch
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10:25 < aestetix> it's an interesting experiment
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10:25 < aestetix> and to be fair they are having a MAJOR outage
10:26 < aestetix> and its a way to keep everyone distracted
10:27 < dasunt> ITYM it's a way to keep everyone busy second guessing the admin and making fifty thousand posts about why said admin is an idiot and should have really done...
10:27 < aestetix> heh yeah
10:29 < dasunt> Then said posts evolve into threads where people debate the relative merits of "ls | grep" versus "find".
10:36 < aestetix> huh
10:36 < aestetix> one of the guys on their ops team is from nashville
10:36 < aestetix> john northrup
10:36 < aestetix> https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-northrup-882a983
10:36 < aestetix> anyone know him?
10:36 < PigBot> Couldn't snarf url: HTTP Error 999: Request denied. http://tinyurl.com/hslkcsp
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10:37 < dasunt> Tesla Motor's P/E ratio is -40?
10:37 < aestetix> and he was at vandy too
10:37 <@Dagmar> I vaguely remember that name
10:37 <@Dagmar> He used to hang out in here
10:38 < aestetix> he's the guy in the beard on that video chat
10:39 <@Dagmar> I don't recognize him so possibly a different northrup
10:40 <@Dagmar> haproxy isn't a load balancer
10:40 <@Dagmar> *sigh*
10:41 < aestetix> Dagmar: what would you call it
10:41 <@Dagmar> It's a tool for high availability
10:41 < aestetix> well yes
10:41 < aestetix> it is quite literally a proxy for high avaiability
10:41 <@Dagmar> i.e., making it so two servers can act as one SO THAT IF ONE GOES DOWN there is zero interruption
10:41 <@Dagmar> A load balancer doesn't work to keep shit in synch
10:42 < aestetix> you mean it balancers the load?
10:42 < aestetix> balances*
10:42 <@Dagmar> It's only job is distributing connections
10:43 <@Dagmar> It can hand them out round robin, or proportionally, or based on measured system load
10:44 <@Dagmar> The effective topology doesn't really change if a load balancer loses a target
10:44 <@Dagmar> If _all_ hosts are down, a load balancer can at least issue apologies
10:46 <@Dagmar> HA proxy can function in that role, but it's focus is slightly different in key ways
10:49 <@Dagmar> Maybe they've upgraded it's functionality since I last looked at it but the topology thing is the biggest difference afaik
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12:44 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hETGipWgOBA
12:44 < aestetix> time for another round
12:44 < PigBot> Title: Press Briefing with Press Secretary Sean Spicer - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/hnoq72k
12:52 < dasunt> No more Sean Spicer.
12:53 < dasunt> Can't we just bash our heads against a brick wall instead?  It's probably healthier for our neurons.
12:54 < xray> What do you mean "No more Sean Spicer"?
12:54 < dasunt> I can't take any more Sean Spicer.
12:54 < dasunt> Sorry.
12:55 < xray> Ok that makes sens.
12:57 < dasunt> Sean Spicer still has the job, as far as I know.
14:49 < rattle> Never did I think I'd see an editor giving guidance like this regarding an American president.  http://www.reuters.com/article/rpb-adlertrump-idUSKBN15F276
14:49 < PigBot> Title: Covering Trump the Reuters Way | Reuters (at www.reuters.com) http://tinyurl.com/hgecv7m
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21:21 <@Dagmar> You know... for being a "bad guy", this Beast character on The Magicians is a really cool dude
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