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06:22 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:23 < xray> morning
06:23  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
07:46 < Hando> Morning
07:47 < aestetix> donald trump just called for an investigation into voter fraud
08:12 < rattle> I called for Pho last night, and it came in like 15 minutes.  The things I call for get results.
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09:02 < dasunt> aestetix: Like "as a concrete plan", or "as rhetoric"?
09:05 < aestetix> rattle: that's because you pick battles wisely
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09:16 <@Dagmar> We already did several investigations
09:17 <@Dagmar> Trump is just saying shit to buy time, because no one's calling him out on doing so.
09:17 <@Dagmar> So long as no one holds his feet to a fire for it, he's going to continue to make stupid but _safe_ demands like that
09:18 <@Dagmar> It's the things he does NOT say that should worry you... like handing over the economy to his cronies.
09:22 < dasunt> I expected the cronyism.  It's a question of how deep the screwups will go and how long it'll take us to recover, but I have a lot of questions nowadays.
09:24 < dasunt> On the plus side, my state GOP has a solution for that pesky problem of police shooting unarmed black men:  Criminalize the protests.
09:27 < dfused> like N.C. wanting to make shouting at former officials a crime.
09:31 < dasunt> I really wish we had some interviewers like the UK does - y'know, the ones that just rip into a politician's bullshit.
09:37 < dasunt> Speaking of which, CNN is getting hostile on Trump.
09:38 < dasunt> Current webpage top headline:  "Despite no evidence, Trump wants voter fraud investigation".
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10:38 < dasunt> So today's reddit story that takes the cake:  guy's sister and bro-in-law want a new car, but have bad credit.  So the guy takes out the car loan in his name.
10:38 <@opticron> I saw that
10:39 <@opticron> it was dumb
10:39 <@opticron> and then he signs for their apartment
10:39 < dasunt> The details:  Guy's sister doesn't work for "religious reasons".  The car is an Infiniti QX56 that goes for $60k.  Looking at what they are paying and what they have left, it may have been an 8-9 year auto loan.
10:39 <@opticron> jesus
10:39 <@opticron> I didn't know they even offered those
10:40 < dasunt> For a luxury car!
10:40 < dasunt> opticron: Did you see the sister also used the guy's SSN to sign up for AT&T?
10:40 <@opticron> no...I missed that part
10:41 < dasunt> Yep, he didn't know about that until he got contacted about overdue bills.
10:41 <@opticron> and didn't know about the eviction until he got hit with that on his CR
10:43 < dasunt> Who knows that getting a loan for a luxury vehicle for a family member with poor credit could have ended up this poorly?
10:43 < dasunt> Right?
10:45 <@opticron> he'll eventually recover, but it's going to suck
10:46 < dasunt> Really, it doesn't sound too bad except for the credit hit.  As long as the car isn't trashed, it seems that the real value is close to what he owes.
10:48 < dasunt> I'm not sure how bad the credit hit will be - what does an attempted repo, missed payments, and an eviction do to your credit?
10:48 <@opticron> well, he said it was low 700s to begin with
10:48 <@opticron> and that it has already hit low 600s
10:49 < TheDukh> prolly hot the 400's before it's done.
10:49 < TheDukh> hit*
10:49 <@opticron> I could believe that if everything goes just wrong
10:50 < dasunt> Yep.
10:51 < dasunt> Jebus, a car loan that's $1054/mo is insane.
10:52 <@opticron> if he pushed it out to 9 years, ~$700
10:52 <@opticron> but yeah, that's rent here
11:25 < _NSAKEY> dasunt: I saw that. It's too bad Christmas already happened, because taking their luxury car would have been a hilarious anti-gift.
11:39 < aestetix> I can't figure out why Trump is pledging for a vote fraud probe in an election he won
11:39 < aestetix> Especially after he had lawyers fight against the recounts
11:40 <@Dagmar> Because it buys him _time_ as a distraction.
11:40 < aestetix> Away from what?
11:40 < aestetix> The wall?
11:40 <@Dagmar> While everyone's yammering about "why does he say this?" he isn't being criticized about all the other bullshit
11:40 <@Dagmar> They're "controlling the narrative"
11:41 < aestetix> Ok so this is basically the hamilton drama on repeat
11:41 < aestetix> And he's gonna keep doing this
11:41 < aestetix> and the press will keep eating it up
11:41 <@Dagmar> It worked before because no one called him out on it.
11:42 < aestetix> oh nice
11:42 < aestetix> another press conference in 20 minutes
11:42 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTjHF1aezqI
11:42 < PigBot> Title: Press Briefing with Press Secretary Sean Spicer - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/j3e8ynj
11:54 < dasunt> http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/
11:54 < PigBot> Title: All statements involving Donald Trump | PolitiFact (at www.politifact.com) http://tinyurl.com/3bvmh2s
11:54 < dasunt> Er, I meant:  http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
11:54 < PigBot> Title: Donald Trump's file | PolitiFact (at www.politifact.com) http://tinyurl.com/n9qvuhp
11:55 < dasunt> The latter link is interesting just to see how many statements of his are false.
11:57 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: http://www.burojansen.nl/bvd-aivd/dutch-secret-service-tries-to-recruit-tor-admin/
11:57 < PigBot> Title: Buro Jansen & Janssen (at www.burojansen.nl) http://tinyurl.com/zg2ojnh
13:19 < TheDukh> "Depending on results, we will strengthen up voting procedures," president promises on Twitter.
13:20 < TheDukh> i.e, if it worked for me, it's not fraud.  If it worked for Hillary, ILLEGALS!
13:39 < aestetix> intresting
13:39 < aestetix> See, when The press conference ended because "Trump will be speaking live soon"
13:39 < aestetix> I assumed that he'd be.... speaking live soon.
13:40 < aestetix> It's been like an hour. So I'm actually thinking one of the questions lead them to end the press conference early
15:02 < dasunt> I think I should agree with Trump about the three million illegal voters.
15:03 < dasunt> After all, three million illegal voters is enough to throw the 2016 election.  We obviously need a do-over.
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15:15 < sol1d> you'll get another election in 4 years
15:15 < sol1d> chill out in the mean time and enjoy the ride
15:17 < sol1d> que ACDC highway to hell
15:26 <@Mirage> Damn server keeps having a kernel panic supposedly due to httpd since I patched a week or so ago.   Can't find any posts about it, but urely it's not just happening to me.
15:37 <@Mirage> On a sep note, I finally upgraded my old Linksys/Cisco SRW2016 managed switch for a Cisco SG500-28.   Soo much nicer.   My main bitch though is that the OS on it is almost, but not, IOS.   Most of the CLI commands are the same, so configuration is easy, but it doesn't have the "tab for options" feature.
15:47 < rattle> Try using a ? for options.
15:49 <@Mirage> ah, that works..
15:50 <@Mirage> always had been able to just poke tab couple times and never even tried '?'
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16:23 < dasunt> Making friends:  http://www.bbc.com/news/business-38749884
16:23 < PigBot> Title: Euro 'could fail', says man tipped as US ambassador to EU - BBC News (at www.bbc.com) http://tinyurl.com/zxz87w4
16:24 < dasunt> Turns out we can also make a free trade deal in 90 days.
16:26 < dasunt> I'll note he didn't claim to make a good free trade deal.
17:01 < aestetix> so uh
17:01 < aestetix> glad I don't have to pay tax dollars to that fucking wall
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