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06:16 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:17 < xray> Morning
06:17 < xray> Well at least it is here
06:39 < scam> yeah its not good
06:40 <@Dolemite> Nobody made any assertions as to the quality of the morning.  Only that it is. :)
06:40 < xray> This is true
06:41 < xray> technically I should have said "that is true"
06:41 < xray> "This is true" is self referential.
06:43 <@Dolemite> A simple 'ack' would be sufficient
06:44 <@Dolemite> $configState == "Morning"
06:47 < xray> LoL
06:48 < xray> You are referring to a network ack as opposed to a Bill the Cat ACK https://www.google.com/search?q=bill+the+cat+ack&biw=1293&bih=824&tbm=isch&imgil=ihteGp-sNnV82M%253A%253BgWiwgfnuroZngM%253Bhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.etsy.com%25252Flisting%25252F156314959%25252Fbill-the-cat-mug-ack-with-opus-saying&source=iu&pf=m&fir=ihteGp-sNnV82M%253A%252CgW
06:48 < xray> iwgfnuroZngM%252C_&usg=__2FEpdsiK53jmKCVGUOWlSCaVE9c%3D&ved=0ahUKEwis_MPNptjRAhVG6CYKHW7xAVEQyjcIOQ&ei=jvuFWKz9FcbQmwHu4oeIBQ#imgrc=ihteGp-sNnV82M%3A
06:48 < PigBot> Title: bill the cat ack - Google Search (at www.google.com) http://tinyurl.com/h6tuzqp
06:49 <@Dolemite> Bill the Cat > *
06:49 < xray> Although a Bill the Cat ACK would also be appropriate if you haven't had coffee yet
06:49  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
06:50 <@Dolemite> Of course, in our post-fact age, you can present your own alternative
07:00 < aestetix> The only thing post-fact is the garbage that shows up in the New York Times
07:01 <@Dolemite> What about the "alternative truths" that the White House Press Secretary pushed on Saturday?
07:01 <@Dolemite> excuse me, "alternative facts"
07:01 < xray> You mean make up my own reality and insist that everyone else buy into it while reserving the right to ignore everyone else's pet reality.
07:01 < aestetix> You know, competition is supposed to make quality of things better
07:01 < aestetix> Instead we get a race to the bottom
07:02 < xray> Only when their success can be objectively measured.
07:02 <@Dolemite> It's happening on both sides of the mirror, for sure, but Drumpf is letting his ego put that race to the bottom into overdrive
07:02 < aestetix> I wonder if we'll see a repeat of Nixon vs New York Times
07:02 < aestetix> Wanna take bets on how long before Trump tries to shut down the press?
07:03 < xray> Have you seen https://neocities.org/ they claim to be the reincarnation of Geocities
07:03 < PigBot> Title: Neocities: Create your own free website! (at neocities.org) http://tinyurl.com/kh8cf7j
07:03 <@Dolemite> aestetix: Before?  He has already started.
07:03 < aestetix> Ironicaly, I was in an argument with someone who was wanting to commit violence against people who are racist and neo-nazis
07:04 < aestetix> Because they might become violent
07:04 < aestetix> He did not see the irony in this
07:05 < aestetix> "it's ok to be violent against them because they could inspire many more people to be violent"
07:06 < aestetix> Dolemite: how?
07:06 < aestetix> Dolemite: I saw him refuse to take questions from CNN.... which is not quite the same thing.
07:07 <@Dolemite> Sean Spicer, on Saturday, didn't take any questions at all.
07:07 < aestetix> yeah
07:07 < aestetix> that was a joke of a press confererence
07:07 <@Dolemite> He simply got up, belched out some utter bullshit, then packed up and walked away.
07:08 <@Dolemite> Trump hinted during the campaign that he might disband the press corps
07:08 < aestetix> On the plus side, I can see several constitutional amendments coming out of Trump's presidency
07:08 < aestetix> Not the least of which includes full financial disclosures
07:08 <@Dolemite> Not for 2 years
07:08 < aestetix> let me rephreas
07:08 < aestetix> not coming from Trump, but coming in response to Trump
07:08 <@Dolemite> But even then, you'll still have the majority of the house representing the fewest in population numbers
07:09 < aestetix> Another amendment might be requiring all candidates to have served either in the military or in public office of some form
07:26 < aestetix> It sounds like Congress is going to be returning the favor of the last four years
07:26 < aestetix> IE the GOP obstructed Obama, now the democrats are going to obstruct Trump
07:32 < aestetix> wunderbar!
07:32 < aestetix> Trump is signing an executive order to withdraw from TPP
07:32 < _NSAKEY> ... And one to state his intent to renegotiate NAFTA.
07:33 < aestetix> So he is basically going to be like Reagan on steroids
07:33 < aestetix> actually no
07:33 < aestetix> Since Reagan was all about free trade
07:34 < aestetix> http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/21/politics/trump-to-cia-i-am-so-behind-you/index.html
07:34 < PigBot> Title: Brennan bashes Trump over speech during CIA visit - CNNPolitics.com (at edition.cnn.com) http://tinyurl.com/jblltqo
07:34 < aestetix> he's pissing off everyone
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09:10 < rattle> I wonder what spectacles this week will bring..
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09:23 < aestetix> rattle: well he just signed the EO to withdraw from TPP
09:23 < aestetix> which is a pretty big deal
09:24 <@Dolemite> Except that the TPP was basically already dead
09:24 < aestetix> I understood that Obama was pushing for it, and as a result Congress was blocking it
09:33 < rattle> TPP was a really mixed bag.
09:34 < aestetix> https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/23/opinion/donald-trump-and-a-sea-of-empty-desks.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region&region=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region
09:34 < aestetix> fucking
09:34 < PigBot> "Couldn't snarf url: HTTP Error 303: The HTTP server returned a redirect error that would lead to an infinite loop.\nThe last 30x error message was:\nSee Other. http://tinyurl.com/jezjvpp"
09:34 < aestetix> https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/23/opinion/donald-trump-and-a-sea-of-empty-desks.html
09:34 < aestetix> less stupidity
09:34 < PigBot> "Couldn't snarf url: HTTP Error 303: The HTTP server returned a redirect error that would lead to an infinite loop.\nThe last 30x error message was:\nSee Other. http://tinyurl.com/hbx8e23"
09:34 < aestetix> "But why, in a federal government of more than two million employees, many with deep experience, must the president appoint 4,000 people, and the Senate weigh in on 1,100? "
09:34 < aestetix> I think this is a really good question
09:35 < aestetix> Its absurd for the president to need to appoint four thousand people
09:39 < rattle> That's the wrong way to look at it.  POTUS has 4,000 jobs at his discretion.  Typically, that means a president comes into office with his core team (typically a few hundred people, most of which don't need confirmation and staff things like the NSC), and holds over all the prior teams, and replaces people as he sees fit.
09:39 < rattle> This president is different.
09:40 < aestetix> So basically he appoints the key figures who handle all the rest
09:40 < rattle> He took very strange first actions in that regard.  For awhile, they were going to be firing DC's natguard flag in the middle of the inauguration.
09:40 < rattle> It just doesn't seem like much thought has gone into it.
09:41 < rattle> I'm very concerned about the state of the NSC.
09:41 < rattle> All the ambassador recalls..  It just is out of step with the norm.
09:42 < rattle> Wiping out your predecessors political appointments is normal..  But usually only when you have replacements for them.
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10:05 < aestetix> sigh
10:05 < aestetix> not looking forward to this
10:05 < aestetix> I have to import a large database into a non-ssd system
10:43 < aestetix> http://www.hewillnotdivide.us/
10:43 < PigBot> Title: HE WILL NOT DIVIDE US | LaBeouf, Rönkkö & Turner (at www.hewillnotdivide.us) http://tinyurl.com/hx2r2x7
10:49 < aestetix> wow
10:49 < aestetix> http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/art/news/a-pair-of-glasses-were-left-on-the-floor-at-museum-and-everyone-mistook-it-for-art-a7049551.html
10:49 < PigBot> Title: A pair of glasses were left on the floor at a museum and everyone mistook it for art | The Independent (at www.independent.co.uk) http://tinyurl.com/h2fxexj
10:49 < aestetix> bay area in a nutshell
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12:24 < aestetix> oh nice
12:24 < aestetix> a few minutes away from the next press briefing with the trump press secretary
12:24 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6gMfIsUB-s
12:24 < PigBot> Title: Press Briefing with Press Secretary Sean Spicer - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/hw3yful
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13:15 < aestetix> rattle: you watching this shit?
13:15 < aestetix> this is like celebrity deathmatch
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14:27 < rattle> aestetix: I haven't had time to pay attention to it.  Only caught a few bits of it.
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17:51 < aestetix> rattle: as mixed as my feelings on Wikileaks are, I would 100% support someone from the IRS leaking Donald Trump's tax returns to them
17:54 < rattle> The sounds of the bombs will just mute it out.
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