--- Log opened Thu Jan 19 00:00:55 2017 00:50 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:02 -!- brimstone [~brimstone@noranti.in.the.narro.ws] has joined #se2600 01:03 -!- brimstone is now known as Guest37174 01:49 -!- rpifan [~rpi@73.106.72.68] has joined #se2600 01:54 -!- rpifan [~rpi@73.106.72.68] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:42 -!- K`Tetch_ [~no@24-178-141-147.dhcp.thtn.ga.charter.com] has joined #se2600 02:45 -!- K`Tetch [~no@unaffiliated/ktetch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:37 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 06:38 * aestetix hugs Dolemite 06:40 < aestetix> https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/fancy-dorms-arent-the-main-reason-tuition-is-skyrocketing/ 06:40 < PigBot> Title: Fancy Dorms Aren’t The Main Reason Tuition Is Skyrocketing | FiveThirtyEightArtboard 95 (at fivethirtyeight.com) http://tinyurl.com/je2mpm3 06:40 < aestetix> "Each of the dorm’s apartment-style suites comes equipped with a flat-screen TV and other amenities." 06:40 < aestetix> Is this for real? 06:40 <@Dolemite> Yes 06:41 < aestetix> I thought dorms basically gave you a bed, sheets, and a dresser 06:41 <@Dolemite> It's hard to find what someone from my generation would call a college dormitory at even a public university these days 06:42 <@Dolemite> I shared a small cell with another person. We each had a closet with no door, a desk, a bunk bed OVER that desk, and a small dresser. 06:42 < aestetix> That sounds about right 06:42 <@Dolemite> We also managed to cram a small refrigerator and microwave in ours, and a TV was balanced precariously over those two. 06:42 < aestetix> I don't understand why a dorm would provide a tV 06:42 < cyberanger> That was like my boarding school, execpt for the sheets 06:42 < aestetix> unless the school does a lot of telecourses 06:43 < aestetix> isn't the point of a dorm to live somewhere while you study? 06:43 < cyberanger> also sounds like what my dorm would have been like at Penn State or the U of T 06:43 < cyberanger> (I toured the dorm at U of T back in Nov. some were traditional, some were apartment style, they had the TV's and so forth) 06:44 < aestetix> I wonder if you could say "I don't need a tv, can you remove it and reduce my bill?" 06:45 < aestetix> "By comparison, the decline in state support accounts for about three-quarters of the rising cost of college." 06:46 < aestetix> I believe this. 06:46 < aestetix> So it's basically thanks to the tea party 06:46 <@Dolemite> It's being market driven, though 06:46 < aestetix> Which is a fucking horrible idea. 06:46 <@Dolemite> At first the universities only offered a small amount of these apartment like dorms 06:46 <@Dolemite> But those were the ones that would fill up, first, and students would then choose off campus housing rather than live in a traditional dorm 06:47 < cyberanger> It's part of why I went looking at the U of T, it's cheaper than a lot of US schools, and Toronto isn't bad for a major city. 06:47 <@Dolemite> So as the residence halls come up for renovation, they get flipped 06:47 < aestetix> If they offer both luxury and non-luxury dorms, ok I guess that makes sense 06:47 < cyberanger> And when they asked me about dorms, I said I'd take whatever offered. 06:47 < aestetix> And the students who want the TVs can pay more 06:49 < cyberanger> It's the forced meal plans that hurt me, the TV barely adds to the cost. 06:50 < cyberanger> Matter of fact, the apartments are cheaper than some of the traditional dorms when you factor in the kitchen vs the forced meal plan. 07:30 <@Evilpig> college students can cook? 07:32 <@Dolemite> Only the culinary students 07:32 <@Dolemite> actually, I cooked most of my meals. I was too poor to eat out. 07:33 <@Dolemite> I also cooked a lot of other people's meals, since I worked at two different pizza joints while in college. 07:33 <@Dolemite> D-Vine Pizza in Chattanooga (while at UT Chattanooga) and Papa John's in Cookeville (while at TN Tech) 07:35 <@Evilpig> I attempted to cook most of my meals but it was not what I would consider food today 07:41 <@Dolemite> Sometimes it was box food, at other times it was mostly from raw ingredients 07:42 <@Dolemite> Lots of hamburger helper - which is at least a step up from frozen dinners 07:42 <@Evilpig> I dunno about that 07:42 <@Evilpig> that's alot of salt 07:42 <@Dolemite> But I also made lots of chili, stew, and at least once a week would bake chicken in the oven 07:42 <@Dolemite> I'm not talking about nutrition as much as skill level 07:42 <@Evilpig> it was salty 07:43 <@Dolemite> I never considered hamburger helper to be very salty. 07:43 <@Dolemite> I still fix it from time to time 07:54 -!- Guest37174 [~brimstone@noranti.in.the.narro.ws] has quit [Changing host] 07:54 -!- Guest37174 [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has joined #se2600 07:54 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Guest37174] by ChanServ 07:54 -!- Guest37174 is now known as brimstone 08:17 < cyberanger> College kids and nutrition, I've cooked and eaten out too much, neither was nutritious. 08:18 < cyberanger> Even if I had a meal plan, I'd still have gone to the food trucks or something. 08:20 < cyberanger> Going back now I think about it, but back then, fun death was better than a long life. 08:20 < cyberanger> Then again, I still eat fast food and jump out of perfectly good airplanes, so maybe nothing has really changed. 08:23 < aestetix> I'm guessing that you pay much more than money for fast food now 08:28 < cyberanger> Yeah, I'm not as active either, both have cost me 08:29 < cyberanger> Thankfully I've kept the weight low enough to still skydive, but barely. 08:30 < cyberanger> Also nearly failed medicals for high blood pressure (I've been just under the limit) 08:34 < rattle> My kitchen is small and has crappy ventilation. I either cook outside (wok usually), cook in a rice cooker, or order out. 08:34 < rattle> It's far to freaking easy to get lazy in NYC when it comes to ordering out. 08:35 < rattle> There aren't delivery fees, and no matter where you are, there are dozens of world class places that can delivery within 20 minutes w/o delivery fees. 08:36 < rattle> Did I mention how much I like no delivery fees? 08:51 < cyberanger> rattle: that's starting to be here too 08:51 < cyberanger> I mean I'm sure it doesn't match NYC (for starters, we have fees) but still. 08:51 < cyberanger> I think the only Wok I have has a usb dongle sized hole in the center. 09:26 -!- rpifan [~rpi@73.106.79.88] has joined #se2600 09:37 -!- rpifan [~rpi@73.106.79.88] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 10:57 < dasunt> My kitchen is something like 8'x12', if I'm lucky. 10:58 * dasunt doesn't really eat out though. 10:59 < dasunt> But I do use my rice cooker heavily. It's my favorite lazy way of making a meal. 11:01 < aestetix> man 11:01 < aestetix> http://www.businessinsider.in/american-airlines-is-banning-carry-on-bags-and-overhead-bin-use-for-basic-economy-passengers/articleshow/56655626.cms 11:01 < PigBot> Title: American Airlines is banning carry-on bags and overhead bin use for basic economy passengers | Business Insider India (at www.businessinsider.in) http://tinyurl.com/hzzbybb 11:02 < aestetix> you know what's going to happen 11:02 < aestetix> they are using this to gradually raise the price of "basic economy" to what is now economy 11:15 * dasunt files this under "yet another reason not to fly". 11:38 < aestetix> dasunt: come to europe, flying here is great 11:38 < aestetix> then again there is also lots of competition 11:47 < dasunt> We may go to Europe in 2018 or 2019. 11:47 < aestetix> The moment you get on a plane that's not American you notice the difference. 11:47 < aestetix> Everyone is jolly, and the attendents are all hot chicks 12:06 < aestetix> https://www.periscope.tv/w/1OyKAAepAmDKb 12:06 < PigBot> Title: WikiLeaks on Periscope: "LIVE WikiLeaks general press conf #askWL" (at www.periscope.tv) http://tinyurl.com/zrpwpbd 12:30 < K`Tetch_> someone's not flown ryanair or easyjet before.... 12:36 <@Dagmar> Okay, the audio is boring, and the tweets make me want to mass murder 12:36 <@Dagmar> Wake me when they say something worth hearing 12:40 < aestetix> K`Tetch_: easyjet and ryanair are known to be low budget airlines though 12:41 < aestetix> K`Tetch_: what about something like Lufthansa 13:05 < K`Tetch_> never flown them 13:06 < K`Tetch_> I did do an internal uk flight on BA once (Manchester to London) 13:06 < K`Tetch_> that was nice, but the stews were late 30s early 40s 13:07 < K`Tetch_> I should point out that next month will be 14 years since I've flown (or indeed left GA for more than 18 hours) 13:07 < K`Tetch_> I refuse to fly because of the TSA 13:07 < K`Tetch_> if I get the gig I'm after in Los Angeles later this year, I'll drive or take the train 13:08 < xray> Is that a temporary or permanent gig 13:08 < K`Tetch_> would only be a temp one 13:08 < K`Tetch_> next season of battlebots 13:09 < xray> that sounds like fun 13:09 <@Evilpig> this last season of battlebots had a few really good fights 13:09 < K`Tetch_> trying to get re-hired onto the teh/safety team 13:10 < K`Tetch_> two atlanta based bots - overhauls originally from suanee (charles guan) and bombshell is an atlanta 'superteam' 13:12 < K`Tetch_> in fact the bombshell's team leader is now working at Tech 13:13 < K`Tetch_> (well the GTRI) 13:22 <@Mirage> http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/tor/5868054196.html 13:22 < PigBot> Title: best of craigslist: CANADIAN LESSONS! Are you American and moving to Canada? (at www.craigslist.org) http://tinyurl.com/gkuagrx 14:01 < rattle> People are so pissed about 3 Doors Down playing Trump's inauguration that they've boycotted buying their albums for the past 15 years. 14:04 <@opticron> they were so angry they invented time travel 14:12 < K`Tetch_> not saying 3 doors down is unpopular, but for the last few years they've had more success playing as a 3 doors down cover band 14:14 <@Mirage> I doubt there's quite as much outrage as there was with the Milli Vanilli lip sync scandal. 14:15 < K`Tetch_> mili vanilli was just practicing for the Macys thanksgiving parade 14:17 <@Mirage> No, those people at least lip sync to themselves recorded...not someone else. 14:18 < K`Tetch_> how do you know? 14:18 < K`Tetch_> because evryone knows James earl jones is darth vader 14:18 <@Mirage> There hasn't been a scandal yet on E! 14:49 < aestetix> https://huwieler.net/2017/01/18/chelsea-manning-in-basic-combat-training/ 14:50 < sol1d> https://mweiden.github.io/objects.html 14:50 < PigBot> sol1d: That URL appears to have no HTML title. 14:51 < sol1d> http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/19/technology/st-louis-public-library-hack/index.html 14:51 < PigBot> Title: St. Louis' public library computers hacked for ransom - Jan. 19, 2017 (at money.cnn.com) http://tinyurl.com/hj5fsnc 14:51 < sol1d> https://www.reddit.com/r/all/rising/ 14:51 < PigBot> Title: rising submissions : all (at www.reddit.com) http://tinyurl.com/m36jqfb 14:52 < sol1d> https://githubengineering.com/githubs-post-csp-journey/ 14:52 < PigBot> Title: GitHub’s post-CSP journey - GitHub Engineering (at githubengineering.com) http://tinyurl.com/hn7ebwf 14:52 < sol1d> the wikileaks interview was ok 14:52 < sol1d> i listened to it 20 minutes in 15:54 < dasunt> What was the Wikileaks press conference on? 16:14 < K`Tetch_> how great assange is, and totally not how his bluff got called 16:17 < dasunt> He's a wanker. 16:17 < _NSAKEY> K`Tetch_: In other words, X minutes of self-fellatio, and 1 minute at the end promising more leaks to come? 16:18 < K`Tetch_> probably 16:18 < K`Tetch_> didn't bother with it myself 16:19 -!- TheDukh_ [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ac80:d900:907c:ff81:9954:ddc6] has quit [] 16:19 < dasunt> I didn't bother with it either. 16:19 <@Mirage> OK, room reserved for GeekNIC...and yay for AAA discount. 16:19 < dasunt> I'm still trying to figure out if my liver will survive the Trump inaug tomorrow. 16:21 < K`Tetch_> obne my my schoolfriends posted this (his wife's from Virginia) https://twitter.com/mrmallon/status/822191646318194688 16:21 < K`Tetch_> works for me too 16:41 < dasunt> FFS. I have no admin account for this one service because it was deemed not necessary for me. Now guess who is the only one around that is available? 16:43 < dasunt> In the dark, being fed shit. 16:55 < rattle> Making discourse great again. http://www.cfr.org/about/newsletters/archive/newsletter/n4252 16:55 < PigBot> Title: Council on Foreign Relations - Transition 2017 - (at www.cfr.org) http://tinyurl.com/hj3acfb 16:57 < aestetix> rattle: why isn't your name on that page 17:18 * dasunt ponders the news. 17:45 < rattle> Large team. 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