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06:23 <@Dolemite> mr0nnig, be0tches and h0ez!
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07:35  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
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07:58 <@rattle> Go Kosovo!!!!
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08:08 <@rattle> In other news, the word I'm hearing is that as of this morning, the Trump transition team has yet to contact the Pentagon, State Department, DHS, and other federal agencies.
08:08 <@rattle> This is sort of unbelievable, and scary as hell.
08:08 <@Dolemite> yeah, I just read that on CN
08:08 <@Dolemite> er, CNN
08:08 <@rattle> Even in 2000, when the election was contested, there was more coordination between all parties.
08:09 <@Dolemite> But hey, according to the folks on my Facebook feed, CNN is where the fake news comes from
08:09 <@Dagmar> From the attitude he takes, I'll wager it's because Trump thinks the position of President is like being a CEO where he can hire/fire people and write laws at will
08:09 <@Dagmar> So... he'll contact those departments when he wants to fuck something up
08:10 <@rattle> But, hey.  greatagain.gov is up.  So there's that.
08:11 <@rattle> It's a common trope to bitch about how people need to learn more about civics..  But it's usually not applicable when talking about a President.
08:11 <@Dagmar> heh
08:12 <@Dagmar> Just found a user in #android-dev that I'm pretty sure is trying to develop a surreptitious keystroke logger using hte accellerometer
08:12 <@Dagmar> He's going to be very disappointed
08:12 <@Dagmar> He mysteriously "can't subclass the activity" because he's just getting a reference to the activity from elsewhere
08:13 <@Dagmar> He can't bind the gesture listener to the activity, but he swears this is his activity and not someone else's
08:14 <@Dagmar> ...and he needed to hook the gesture listener because he's reading the accellerometer
08:14 <@Dagmar> ...and SOMEHOW just filtering out small bursts of velocity is something he doesn't want to do
08:15 <@Dagmar> It's been awhile since an XY problem was where "X is something malicious"
08:16 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: So have you started leading him wildly astray yet?
08:17 <@Dagmar> Leaning on him about tapping his own screen to determine what little force a screen tap represents was a good start
08:17 <@Dagmar> He won't be able to do what he wants to do without explicitly requesting overlay rights
08:17 <@Dagmar> ...or only targeting people still running Android 4.4 or older
08:18 <@Dagmar> You literally don't need to hook the gesturedetector for that
08:18 <@Dagmar> ...and it still won't be accurate enough
08:19 <@Dagmar> <grugru> Dagmar: Im not doing something suspicious
08:20 <@Dagmar> <Dagmar> Yeah it makes complete sense to worry about whether or notaccelleration data came from the user pressing the screen  ...especially when you're doing it for other people's activities.
08:20 <@Dagmar> <grugru> Dagmar: if that was a security problem, google would have prevented it or someone would not give me the reference to his activity
08:22 <@Dagmar> *eyeroll*
08:44 < aestetix> rattle: so Trump hasn't contacted the Pentagon, and yet he's gotten the highly classified presidential briefing?
08:45 <@rattle> Yes.  DNI comes to POTUS for that.
08:46 <@rattle> Trump is basically going to school right now for all matters intelligence and c2.  That's separate from actually staffing his administration.
08:48 < aestetix> I hate Hillary, but it would be so much better than this with her in office.
08:49 < aestetix> rattle: is there any other president who has won the election while losing his home state?
08:49 < aestetix> And not by just a little bit
08:56 <@rattle> Don't know.
08:56 <@rattle> Trump is hated in NYC.  HATED.
08:57 <@rattle> So far, three of the buildings that carry his name have found ways out of their contracts and yanked down the signs.
08:57 < aestetix> haha
08:58 <@Dolemite> Kushner is the one I'm scared is going to have too much influence
09:03 < aestetix> So basically we got to pick between arrogant warmongering and insider deals (Trump), and relentless trigger warnings, safe spaces, and identity politics (Hillary)
09:09 <@Dolemite> Don't forget The Dude.  He got a decent percentage of the vote.
09:12 < _NSAKEY> I thought about going to my old polling place and writing Elonka in.
09:15 < aestetix> I would vastly prefer Elonka to Hillary
09:24 <@rattle> Clapper resigned.
09:24 < aestetix> holy shit
09:24 < aestetix> rattle: link?
09:24 < aestetix> it just have just happeend
09:25 < aestetix> http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/national-intelligence-chief-clapper-resigns-231547
09:25 < PigBot> Title: National intelligence chief Clapper resigns - POLITICO (at www.politico.com) http://tinyurl.com/j5hjewh
09:26 <@rattle> Every outgoing official needs to submit a letter of resignation, it's a formality..  But that it's going over the wires for Clapper, right as Trump's transition team had an exodus of it's natsec/dip folks, says something.
09:26 < aestetix> rattle: because Americans don't like the optics of being forced to fire someone
09:28 <@rattle> Transitions typically happen with great respect being bestowed on the people who were serving by those taking over, and also those leaving showing great respect to those coming in.  It's a polite process.
09:29 <@rattle> Clapper saying that submitting his letter "felt good" was a subtle fuck-you.
09:29 < aestetix> Maybe German has made me more rigid, but I'm finding that Americans are really passive aggressive and sensitive ;)
09:29 < aestetix> Germany*
09:30 < aestetix> Ironically, except for Donald Trump.
09:35 < xray> http://www.news.gatech.edu/2011/10/17/georgia-tech-turns-iphone-spiphone
09:35 < PigBot> Title: Georgia Tech Turns iPhone Into spiPhone (at www.news.gatech.edu) http://tinyurl.com/ptg536t
09:35 < xray> The used the accelerometer.
09:35 < xray> s/The/They/
10:01 <@dasunt> Is the Republican plan to slightly modify the ACA and just claim they got rid of Obamacare?
10:17 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFZ_Cj8-F3w
10:17 < PigBot> Title: President Obama Holds a Press Conference with Chancellor Merkel - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/zkyxzdl
10:18 < aestetix> one thing I've learned about government: they don't always start on time, but they ALWAYS end on time
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12:01 < aestetix> so something I just realized and is worth noting
12:01 < aestetix> there is one small but significant difference between the privacy group in oakland I'm working with, and basically every activism campaign online
12:02 < aestetix> the lack of a "donate now" button
13:02 < TheDukh> interesting
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16:57 <@NotLarry> ok, stopped on the landing at work to let a woman with two big purses go by and she says "It's tight in here."  I meet with HR first thing in the morning.
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