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01:16 < aestetix> http://theduran.com/princeton-university-hr-department-bans-the-word-man-from-its-vocabulary/
01:16 < aestetix> enjoy
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05:39 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApcqXijVzYU
05:39 < PigBot> Title: Wikileaks BOMBSHELL Exposes Extent Of Clinton Corruption - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/jzfvyfo
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06:31 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:31  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
06:32 < xray> People don't like being shouted at and apparently neither do hard drives https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDacjrSCeq4
06:32 < PigBot> Title: Shouting in the Datacenter - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/7oo2nsx
07:53 <@Evilpig> https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/11222567_498804523614152_3852195126782228411_n.jpg?oh=30969cfd6f7e5c9e9b056206c966cc93&oe=588DB05B
09:08 <@Dagmar> I still think that's a simple matter of noise-reduction code in the drives themselves
09:11 <@Dagmar> There's rather a number of WD drives that adjust their spin rate depending on how much noise they're making
09:13 <@Dagmar> Also, datacenters are almost always fucking noisy
09:22 < aestetix> 6 days until the shitshow is over
09:23 < oddball> Or the real shit showing begining.
09:23 < xray> don't you mean 6 days until they light the fuse
09:23 < aestetix> how bad is the tension in the US?
09:23 < aestetix> when I was there in september it was intolerable
09:23 < oddball> But at least I won't have to deal with anymore "fuck you and your morals, vote for ____" idiots for a while.
09:24 < oddball> Well, with the apparent threats of violence from the right and the *actual* violence from the left...
09:24 < aestetix> ugh
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09:26 <@oddball> I love how the side that has actually bussed people in to riot around opposing political rallies has been calling the other side nazis complete with brown shirts.
09:32 <@oddball> Actually, honestly, I expect a lot of butthurt and gloating... and that's it.
09:33 < aestetix> I guess my issue is this
09:33 < aestetix> I hate Hillary, but I know why I hate her, and I have a good idea what to expect from a Hillary presidency.
09:33 < aestetix> I hate Trump, but I don't know enough about him, and I have no idea what a Trump presidency will be like.
09:33 <@oddball> If Trump wins, there might be some rioting in the usual places.  If Hillary wins, there might be some rioting in those same places.  After all, there's a certain population that seems to enjoy that sort of thing.
09:34 < aestetix> And his tax return thing is especially troubling
09:34 < aestetix> I don't care about the personal attacks crap.
09:34 < xray> Either way we are still going to hit the iceberg.
09:34 < aestetix> But I would like to know if he has financial ties that would create a conflict of interest
09:34 <@oddball> Yeah... nobody knows exactly what Trump as prez would actually be.
09:34 <@Evilpig> a shitshow
09:34 <@Evilpig> I think that's a guarantee
09:35 < aestetix> I mean even Obama had some votes as a senator
09:35 <@oddball> You take issue with the fact that he didn't pay anything in taxes one year?
09:35 < aestetix> It wasn't much, but it was something
09:35 < aestetix> oddball: not really.
09:35 < aestetix> oddball: the tax law is broken, he took advantage of it.
09:35 < aestetix> I can't fault him for that. If he did something illegal, then I'd care.
09:36 <@oddball> I haven't actually looked at the return, but it's completely believable to me that someone with his kind of money made zero in taxable income for one year.
09:36 < aestetix> Well I suspect a lot of his wealth is in capital gains
09:37 < aestetix> But I mean, if the democrats are so livid about the tax code, why don't they put more effort into fixing it?
09:37 <@oddball> And, when you have that kind of wealth, you invest in new companies, etc, which might flop that year.
09:37 <@oddball> Oh, see, they're only pissed about the tax code when they can use it as a weapon against the Republicans.
09:38 < aestetix> I am all in favor of unfucking the tax code.
09:38 <@oddball> Also see: all white collar crime.
09:38 < aestetix> I'm not about increasing taxes for anyone, and I suspect that closing a few loopholes would solve a LOT of budget issues.
09:38 < aestetix> But I also suspect that those loopholes are maintained by powerful lobbyists
09:38 <@oddball> I have a really easy way of doing that: require all congressmen to do their own taxes with only the help of a simple calculator.
09:39 < aestetix> Ironically, when I visited Congress in 2013, they were all interested in listening to me because I'm a citizen who had concerns about an issue.
09:39 < aestetix> They do not get that very often.
09:39 < aestetix> They asked me what group I was with... I'm like "uh I'm a constituent"
09:39 < aestetix> they had no idea how to handle it
09:39 <@oddball> heh
09:40 < aestetix> They almost always either get a lobbyist from some group, or a citizen who wants a photo taken with their rep
09:40 < aestetix> they NEVER get a citizen concerned about an issue
09:41 <@oddball> yep
09:41 < aestetix> Which makes me think that if people actually got involved in this stuff, the tax loopholes would be fixed overnight
09:41 < aestetix> Because if you have a choice between listening to a lobbyist, or a few hundred people who can kill your re-election...
09:42 <@oddball> And that's the real power of the NRA.  They get their members to pick up the phone and call their reps, etc.
09:42 < aestetix> yeah
09:43 <@oddball> "oh shit, our phones are blowing up over this one issue!  We better protect our phoney-balony jobs!"
09:43 <@oddball> Same with the AARP.
09:44 <@oddball> Of course, the AARP has the added benifit that their member base is also the demographic that actually gets to the polls.
09:46 < aestetix> this is what makes me fear trump will win
09:47 < aestetix> I mean the brexit passed because nobody under the age of 40 voted
09:47 <@Dolemite> What if I told you...   the NRA is secretly a shadow organization run by the US Government to build a database of citizens that are pro-gun?
09:47  * Dolemite puts on his tin foil hat
09:50 <@oddball> Dolemite: eh, I'm already on all the lists.
09:52 <@oddball> heh... a couple weeks ago, I got a call from the NRA asking for a political donation.  Naienko was a bit shocked in my sudden change in mood.
09:54 <@oddball> I may have mentioned that I was seriously trying to decide if I wanted to renew my membership next year after the shit they've pulled this year, between supporting Trump and any form of the "no fly, no buy" bullshit.
09:56 <@Dolemite> I will re-instate my membership next year, solely to renew my rifle instructor certification for another 2 years
09:57 <@oddball> Of course, the board memeber elections next year could be interesting.  There was a lot of grummbling at the NRA convention when they announced their support of Trump.
10:01 <@Dolemite> I'm pretty sure that Trump simply wants to be in the middle of the end of the world.
10:03 < aestetix> Germany hates Trump
10:03 < aestetix> Mostly because he reminds them a bit too much of Hitler
10:04 < aestetix> well actually I take that back
10:04 < aestetix> there is a neonazi contingent here that has been growing thanks to the refugee drama
10:05 <@oddball> Well, if it makes them feel any better, he was a supporter of the Dems right up to the point that he decided to run for prezident.
10:05 <@oddball> bah... my spelling sucks today.
10:06 < aestetix> ya, auf Deusch man spracht 'präsident' :)
10:06 < aestetix> I think
10:06 < aestetix> ok es ist das aber mit 'P'
10:07 <@oddball> So... who the fuck knows what he actually stands for.
10:07 <@oddball> Well, other than "moar power for me!!!"
10:12 <@rattle> The NRA's political relevance is fading to nothing.  The public dialog regarding gun ownership rights is drifting away from them, and has for some time now.  The majority of gun owners support reforming the background check system and all sorts of things they staunchly oppose.
10:13 <@rattle> For instance, this has been considered one of the most effective campaign ads of this election cycle:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wqOApBLPio
10:13 < PigBot> Title: Background Checks - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/jd4v2mg
10:14 <@rattle> I don't think the NRA actually represents gun owner interests anymore.
10:14 <@Dolemite> The NRA doesn't even meet their original charter at this point.
10:14  * oddball rolls his eyes over the bullshit.
10:16 <@Dolemite> The NRA was founded to promote marksmanship and safety through education.
10:16 <@rattle> Yep.  And that's what they should be doing.
10:16 <@Dolemite> Every time the NRA promotes an open carry bill, they're basically pushing the message that education is OPTIONAL.
10:17 < aestetix> rattle: what do you think of Comey?
10:17 <@rattle> And they are not..  Of all the crap I've received from them, zilch has had to do with safety, training, etc..  Nothing.  Not a single email, flyer, or phones call.  It's all deals on crap and political shit.
10:18 <@Dolemite> They're not even good deals
10:18 <@rattle> Comey needs to go.  FBI has moved backwards under his leadership, whereas it was transforming in many positive ways under Mueller.
10:18 < aestetix> rattle: this whole Wiener email thing is bizarre
10:19 < aestetix> also lol weiner
10:19 <@rattle> It is.
10:19 <@rattle> It truly is bizarre.  I have a feeling Weiner hacked Aberdeen's email.
10:20 < aestetix> How the hell would that influence Hilary's stuff though?
10:21 <@rattle> There are questions that need to be answered..  But nothing that warranted violating justice policy and procedures by going into hatch act grey waters 10 days before the election.
10:22 <@rattle> Apparently, Comey was against saying anything about how Trump and some of his allies have been under investigation for ties to Russian interests..  So that, in combination with this shit..  Sort of throws FBI into a political ring it's never been in, and should never be in.
10:24 <@rattle> I don't know what they are thinking.  It just doesn't make sense.
10:24 < aestetix> wait, I thought the FBI said there were no ties to Russia
10:24 < aestetix> they just haven't commented on it?
10:24 <@rattle> Word I've heard is that it's still under investigation.
10:25 < TheDukh> Who was it that made the comment regarding they were okay with some of the pen tester // malware analysis folks for fed agencies smoking pot? I can't remember if it was Mueller or Andrews.
10:25 < aestetix> TheDukh: depends on the agency and the clearance level
10:25 < aestetix> If you're beginning an interview, just say no.
10:25 <@rattle> FBI doesn't "close" cases like this.  They just run hot and cold in terms of how much attention they get based on what new evidence boils up.
10:26 < aestetix> rattle: well I'm looking at poll numbers, Comey might have given Trump a golden ticket here
10:26 < aestetix> Albeit the wikileaks revelation that Hillary was given advance debate questions is unsettling too....
10:27 <@rattle> There's also the thing about how FBI didn't sign onto the DNI consensus regarding Russia trying to influence the election.  That's just weird too.
10:27 <@rattle> Lots of things that just don't make any fucking sense these days..
10:27 < TheDukh> Comey's prolly bought or blackmailed
10:27 <@Dolemite> I'm just hoping that the rumors of a Trump Russian Orgy Sex Tape don't move in to the center of conversation this weekend...  er, wait, I don't give a shit.  I'll be at Scout Camp all weekend with very bad cell service.
10:28 <@rattle> I don't think Comey is compromised or anything like that.  That's tinfoil hat territory..  But it's all just....  really fucking weird.
10:28 < aestetix> Nothing makes sense right now.
10:28 <@rattle> Yes.  We are agreeing with each other.  Clearly, it's all a sign of the end times.
10:30 < TheDukh> TBH, the Russian Orgy Sex Tape might help his numbers, since he's "great at getting beautiful women" and what-not.  Though, if he gets pegged, that might hurt is vote with the evangelical base.
10:31 <@Dolemite> Money is great at getting beautiful women, men, boys, girls...
11:16 < aestetix> Looking at the polls, this FBI thing is killing Hillary
11:17 < aestetix> http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
11:17 < PigBot> Title: RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton (at www.realclearpolitics.com) http://tinyurl.com/nw954j5
11:17 < aestetix> she's only up by 1.7 points
11:26 <@rhia> http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo#plus
11:26 < PigBot> rhia: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 30480 bytes.
11:27 < aestetix> huh
11:27 < aestetix> why are those so different?
11:29 <@rhia> because Silver's site goes deeper than just one or two popular polls - scroll down and there's a link to an overview of their methodology
11:31 <@rhia> http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/a-users-guide-to-fivethirtyeights-2016-general-election-forecast/
11:34 < aestetix> that is a little reassuring
11:35 < _NSAKEY> It's always fun to go back to those sorts of sites after the election and see who was closest.
14:01 <@rattle> Nate Silver has been calling it perfectly the past several cycles.
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18:09 < aestetix> rattle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov5kvWSz5LM
18:10 < aestetix> I don't know anything about this guy, but he just claimed that he's the source of the podesta emails
18:11 < aestetix> hmmm loking at his website he kind of looks like a nut
18:12 < aestetix> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Pieczenik
18:12 < PigBot> Title: Steve Pieczenik - Wikipedia (at en.wikipedia.org) http://tinyurl.com/hkx6uuk
18:12 < aestetix> maybe he's not so much of a nut
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21:17 <@RangerZ> what time are we meeting up tomorrow for PN?
21:18 <@RangerZ> finally got over my flu last night, and today resting up
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22:00 <@Dagmar> o.O
22:01 <@Dagmar> Jesus.  If it's not Android Studio it's Windows 10 wasting my damn time on updates
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22:13 <@rattle> https://www.amazon.com/Reynolds-Wrap-Aluminum-Foil-Square/dp/B00UNT0Y2M/
22:13 < PigBot> rattle: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 30480 bytes.
22:26 <@RangerZ> rattle, making custom hats for PhreakNIC?
22:30 <@rattle> Yes, I think you should.  And take pictures.
22:30 <@rattle> Little else makes sense.  Go for it.
22:32 <@RangerZ> http://nichegamer.com/2016/11/02/latest-sword-art-online-game-twitter-users-educating-npc/
22:32 < PigBot> Title: The Latest Sword Art Online Game has Twitter Users Educating an NPC - Niche Gamer (at nichegamer.com) http://tinyurl.com/hutlbgv
22:32 <@RangerZ> I don't know if this is a brilliant joke by some developer
22:32 <@RangerZ> but its amusing
22:33 <@RangerZ> About the "Obama", "aunt" and memorized.
22:34 <@RangerZ> ["Nipple" is that's "sensitive areas", someone was saying.]
22:53 <@RangerZ> so I have no interest in the world series
22:53 <@RangerZ> but watching people freak out on twitter is great
22:53 <@Dagmar> Impressive.  In less that one year Windows 10 has returned to the state of "haha you logged in but it's going to be several minutes before you can actually do anythign because we're driving your disk to 100% utilization"
22:58 <@RangerZ> Dagmar: that isn't even the worst part
22:58 <@RangerZ> streamers and other people are stopping using Win 10 entirely b/c it 'randomly' decides to use like 25% CPU utilization and other random disk IO to do random crap
22:59 <@RangerZ> ....when in the middle of playing a game
22:59 <@RangerZ> so obviously it completely ignores "is the user doing anything CPU or IO intensive"
23:41 <@Dagmar> On this laptop disk IO apparently manages to take precedent over a rapid keyboard response
23:42 <@Dagmar> Also, deeply in the realm of 'WTF'... Android Studio integration with github is meh
23:45 <@Dagmar> I'm _definitely_ going to remove the keyring passwords before i push this
23:45 <@Dagmar> I don't trust this damn thing at all
23:50 <@Dagmar> Actually, fuck using github for now
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