--- Log opened Wed Oct 19 00:00:06 2016 01:08 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: if I were a bot, why would i be wearing this hat? lolz] 03:08 < aestetix> I can't wait for this American soap opera to get cancelled 03:12 < aestetix> it's funny how living in germany has made me bascially completed opposed to American feminism 03:12 < aestetix> not normal feminism which seems to mean treat everyone equally, that's fine 03:13 < aestetix> it's this wierd shit Americans have started doing in the last 20 years 05:39 -!- xray [~xray@boppity.cc.gatech.edu] has joined #se2600 06:34 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 06:41 < xray> http://bigstory.ap.org/article/6f997f97c5f140a29f385ea05f1b642c/wikileaks-assanges-internet-link-severed-state-actor 06:41 < xray> Ecuador: We have 'temporarily restricted' Assange's internet 06:46 <@rattle> Yeah, I called that one. 06:46 * aestetix hugs Dolemite 06:47 < aestetix> So in Germany, if you don't like any of the candidates, you deliberately mess up your ballot, and it gets counted as "invalid" 06:47 < aestetix> unlike in the US where it just gets tossed 06:47 < aestetix> My guess is that if Germany had something like the choice the US had, more than half the ballots would be invalids 06:49 < xray> so how is invalid quantitatively different than tossed? 06:50 < aestetix> because there is a category called "invalid" 06:50 < aestetix> they are counted as votes 06:50 < aestetix> just votes for noting 06:50 < aestetix> nothing 06:50 < aestetix> this is different than just totally tossing them 06:50 < xray> So "nothing" could win the election? 06:50 < aestetix> well no 06:50 < aestetix> what happens is that X percentage of the votes are valid, and Y percentage are invalid 06:50 < aestetix> but you can have someone "win" with 70% of the ballots as invalid 06:51 < aestetix> which is something of a statement :) 06:51 < xray> Which has what effect? 06:51 < xray> They still win. 06:51 < aestetix> yes, but it is a demonstration of lack of public confidence 06:51 < aestetix> and I suspect it makes life more difficult politically 06:52 < aestetix> I mean the EU has already proven they don't give a shit about people 06:52 < xray> Which is nice I suppose but it doesn't change the fact that the person won and will take office. Is this correct? 06:52 < aestetix> Look at greece. They had a vote, 90% of the people rejected the referendum, and their politicians still took it 06:52 < aestetix> yes 06:52 < aestetix> It doesn't make any tangible difference 06:53 < aestetix> but maybe a psychological one? I don't know 06:53 < aestetix> maybe good for negotiations 06:53 < xray> Now if I could vote "none of the above" and if that category was lager than the votes received by any of the candidates it resulted in a new election. That would be something. 06:54 < aestetix> I mean if I went to a conference hillary spoke at and asked a question that was basically "fuck you" 06:54 < aestetix> it would have no effect, but it would alter the mood 06:54 < xray> That's great before the election if it affects how people will vote. 06:55 < xray> But now days you can flat out be a criminal while in office and nothing happens. 06:55 < aestetix> yep 06:55 < aestetix> tbqh 06:55 < aestetix> I would hate Obama a lot less if he actually fired anyone 06:55 < xray> Nixon erased 18 minutes of tape. Hillary commits multiple felonies. 06:55 < aestetix> yep 06:55 < aestetix> well actually Rosemary Woods did it, not Nixon 06:55 < aestetix> but the point stands :) 06:56 < xray> Bill perjured himself. 06:56 < aestetix> Reagan sold arms to terrorists. Bush lied about Iraq 06:56 < aestetix> The US needs to stop electing criminals into office 06:57 < xray> If I put on my tin foil hat, I could see this as a way of letting the people think they have control when in fact they don't. Social engineering 101. 06:57 < xray> I heard in a show the other day, "That's a crime! Only if you get caught." 06:59 < xray> It is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it... anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job. - Douglas Adams 07:00 < aestetix> I will enjoy this new debate though 07:00 < aestetix> The first two were very anti-trump 07:00 < aestetix> so this fox one helps balance it out 07:00 < xray> I haven't watched any of them. 07:01 < xray> I already know who will win. 07:01 < aestetix> The news corporations? 07:01 < xray> I'm still voting against the winner but they will win none the less. 07:02 < xray> The news corps are complicit but they can't help themselves no more than a dog can help that it has fur. 07:02 < xray> s/no/any/ 07:03 < xray> People talk about approaching the "cliff" when we are already in free fall. 07:04 < xray> The landing will not be pretty and will be in slow motion so we can experience every last painful moment of it. 07:05 < xray> It's like watching two freight trains headed at each other and it's obvious that no matter what the conductors do there is going to be a horrendous crash. 07:07 < xray> Have you heard about Nomulus? 07:08 < xray> https://opensource.googleblog.com/2016/10/introducing-nomulus-open-source.html 07:08 < xray> https://github.com/google/nomulus/ 07:08 < aestetix> what is this 07:08 < aestetix> interesting 07:09 < xray> It looks like Google released Nomulus as open source software to run a DNS registrar. 07:10 < xray> "It can run any number of TLDs in a single shared registry system using horizontal scaling. Its source code is publicly available in this repository under the Apache 2.0 free and open source license." 07:11 < xray> They are using it to run the Google’s domain registry. https://www.registry.google/ 07:12 < xray> So I guess if you have a jonesing to run a domain registry for some TLDs Google has provided the code to run it. 07:13 < xray> That and $4.50 will get me a cup of really bad coffee. 08:05 < aestetix> https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/586rno/to_anyone_who_has_ordered_a_mail_order_bride_what/ 08:05 < aestetix> this makes me wonder about fat black chicks 08:05 < aestetix> like are there any of them who need to pay for a hustband 08:09 < aestetix> hah 08:09 < aestetix> There once was a mail order bride 08:09 < aestetix> Who bailed on her marriage, untried. 08:09 < aestetix> Incredibly fat 08:09 < aestetix> With a fetish for scat, 08:09 < aestetix> A husband she could not abide. 08:33 <@rattle> How the fuck do you spend your spare time? 08:37 < aestetix> and another wikileaks dump 08:41 < _NSAKEY> rattle: I think that question answered itself. 08:42 <@Dolemite> dump is the key word 08:51 < aestetix> Indeed. 09:02 < aestetix> I am starting to get upset with Wikileaks. 09:03 < aestetix> well "starting to" over the past 7 years there is a whole litany of things I could scold them over 09:15 -!- moj0e_ [~lucas@2804:14c:5bd7:855c:353b:219c:b9ec:6b59] has joined #se2600 09:20 < aestetix> wow 09:20 < aestetix> vim's wildmenu feature is great 09:39 < frsilent> any of you guys ever use roll20.net before? 09:40 < frsilent> myself and a few friends were looking to get into an RPG but none of us have played besides myself & that was 15 years ago 10:23 < aestetix> rattle: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/10/tech-who-deleted-clintons-mails-was-joking-when-he-said-hillary-cover-up/ 10:59 -!- xray [~xray@boppity.cc.gatech.edu] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:21 -!- klixa-cloud [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oorxadnbmzopnrot] has joined #se2600 11:21 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa-cloud] by ChanServ 11:55 -!- dfused [~dfused@nc-184-0-129-115.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #se2600 12:04 < v4mp> aestetix: re: feminism 12:04 < v4mp> indeed, the meaning of feminism has been quite perverted by the SJW trend 12:04 < v4mp> just as the term "progressive" was also tainted 12:05 < v4mp> both used to be "positive" in the classical liberal sense, but now, incidentally, are quite the opposite of the denotation of "liberal" -- i.e., if you disagree with our groupthink, you are ostracised 13:28 -!- klixa-cloud [uid861@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oorxadnbmzopnrot] has quit [Quit: