03:29 < aestetix> RangerZ: how's it going? 03:39 < aestetix> I just listened to the leaked trump audio 03:40 < aestetix> I have heard *so much worse* than that 03:40 < aestetix> plus it was a private conversation 05:00 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-98-211-46-34.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:25 -!- v4mp|2 [~v4mp@108-69-89-150.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: 再见] 06:26 -!- v4mp [~v4mp@unaffiliated/v4mp] has joined #se2600 06:28 < v4mp> hilarious thing is that both candidates want to continue to invade the privacy of citizens and are both against encryption 06:28 < v4mp> s/both candidates/both major party candidates/ 06:29 < v4mp> so, either way, if either gets pissy about private affairs made public... hahaha 06:30 < aestetix> well I mean 06:30 < aestetix> I see how the clinton campaign obviously leaked this audio to make trump look ba 06:30 < aestetix> and they've all but guaranteed he'll bring up lewinsky now 06:30 < v4mp> yup 06:30 * v4mp munches on popcorn 06:31 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: I'm hoping Trump brings up the Lolita Express instead. 06:31 < aestetix> the what? 06:31 < v4mp> yes haahaha 06:31 < aestetix> is that a real thing 06:31 < _NSAKEY> http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/14/bill-clinton-ditched-secret-service-on-multiple-lo/ 06:31 < aestetix> jesus 06:32 < _NSAKEY> If Trump doesn't bring that up, I'm going to feel let down. 06:32 < _NSAKEY> The toxicity level of this election isn't nearly high enough. 06:33 < v4mp> epstein's "sex slave island" vs. billy boy's "lolita express" 06:33 < v4mp> hahaha 06:33 < aestetix> I mean clinton is clearly trying to make this election about morality 06:33 < v4mp> I feel like epstein got let down tho.. his name isn't nearly as catchy 06:33 < aestetix> which is about the stupidest fucking thing they could do 06:33 < v4mp> they need to rebrand that 06:34 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: It goes back to what we were talking about a few days ago, regarding the SJW trash being puritans by another name. 06:34 < aestetix> If trump dropped out and pence took his place, I would consider voting for him, JUST because he's level headed and hasn't gone into the gutter yet 06:34 < v4mp> you gotten your ballot in mail yet? 06:35 < aestetix> yes 06:35 < aestetix> at the moment, I'm not planning to vote 06:35 < v4mp> still not convinced for third party? 06:35 < aestetix> well I like gary johnson a lot 06:35 < aestetix> the problem is I don't think he has the chops to be POTUS 06:35 < v4mp> mm 06:35 < aestetix> reason being, IMHO potus should focus mostly on foreign 06:35 < v4mp> well, at least your vote for him would help ensure that 5% federal funding for next cycle 06:36 < v4mp> mind you, or vote for Stein, or Goode, or whomever you like 06:36 < aestetix> I think gary johnson would be a fantastic cabinet member or something at the domestic stuff 06:36 < aestetix> at this point I wouldn't consider anyone for POTUS who is not a veteran 06:36 < v4mp> but at least for you to vote, you just have to check a box and mail it, which is nice 06:36 < v4mp> Johnson has military support 06:37 < v4mp> and veteran support 06:37 < v4mp> he's winning in some of those polls, or if not he's tied with trump 06:37 < aestetix> it's funny how as I have gotten older I'm more and more pro veteran 06:37 < aestetix> but maybe that's because I saw how much fuckshits the antiwar activists are 06:37 < aestetix> lol 06:38 < v4mp> I think the vet community is changing, too 06:38 < v4mp> it's less of the "big war" people 06:38 < v4mp> and now it's more vietnam + those who have fought in questionably interventionist affairs in north africa and middle east 06:38 < aestetix> It's like.... hnmm, this guy lived in iraq and risked his life on a daily basis.... this guy lived in his mom's basement and gets stoned between protests.... 06:39 < v4mp> I still think it's insane that the veteran debate thing 06:39 < v4mp> they excluded Johnson 06:39 < aestetix> as my grandpa said, "I'll give him a mirror so he can find himself" 06:39 < v4mp> even though he is arguably the vet candidate 06:39 < aestetix> on the one hand, I'm unhappy johnson got excluded from the debate 06:40 < aestetix> on the other hand, it's insulting to johnson to include him in a monkey poo fight 06:40 < v4mp> it shows how corrupt the entire system is 06:40 < v4mp> and yes 06:40 < v4mp> agreed 06:40 < v4mp> or the fact that the NRA-ILA supported Trump 06:40 < aestetix> I mean it wouldn't be third wheeling it 06:40 < v4mp> they lost a lot of people over that 06:40 < aestetix> it would be like.... I don't even know 06:41 < v4mp> the good thing about this cycle 06:41 < v4mp> it's brought a lot of the more subtle cronies out of the woodwork 06:44 < v4mp> but yea -- i'm not a preacher, and politics is icky 06:44 < v4mp> but regardless of whom you vote for, if you don't like either of the two biggies, might be good to help get a 3rd party to get funding for next cycle... 06:44 < v4mp> although 06:44 < v4mp> I can totally undrestand if you dont believe in any of the 3rd party candidates 06:44 < aestetix> well also 06:44 < v4mp> in that case, yea don't vote if you dont believe any of them are sufficiently qualified 06:45 < aestetix> there needs to be WAY more focus on the local level 06:45 < v4mp> yea 06:45 < v4mp> that's a given 06:45 * v4mp votes whenever things are up for vote 06:45 < v4mp> sad thing about presidential elections especially 06:45 < v4mp> is that people usually downvote the entire party line 06:46 < aestetix> so one interesting thing that might happen in oakland 06:46 < v4mp> which is disgusting 06:46 < aestetix> the privacy commission has been having a discussion on some surveillance equipment 06:46 < v4mp> gets a lot of unqualified and horribad candidates on the downballot 06:46 < v4mp> yea 06:46 < v4mp> you talked about it the other day, right? 06:46 < aestetix> and it turns out that by answering the questions of the commission, oakland PD has already violated some NDAs between Harris Corp and oakland pd / california 06:47 < v4mp> //sigh 06:47 < aestetix> and possibly violated NDAs between the federal government and harris 06:47 < aestetix> which may (big if) result in a federal lawsuit against the privacy commission 06:47 < aestetix> which is a constitutional challenge I would LOVE to see happen 06:47 < v4mp> would be interesting 06:47 < aestetix> well the other interesting thing 06:48 < v4mp> although, whichever side has more political power will win 06:48 < aestetix> you know The Intercept? 06:48 < v4mp> yes 06:48 < v4mp> founded by some good people :P 06:48 < aestetix> the intercept last month leaked some manuals of Harris equipment 06:48 < v4mp> yup 06:48 < aestetix> now what is interesting is that the manuals answered some questions the privacy comission had asked oakland pd 06:49 < aestetix> and now it's making people ask why the fuck this stuff is "secret" 06:49 < v4mp> cf. most of these things 06:49 < v4mp> such as fisa court for verizon 06:50 < aestetix> if I have bandwidth to make it to phreaknic next year, I might try to do a talk on this stuff 06:51 < aestetix> since hopefully by then several more cities will have similar commissions 06:51 < v4mp> sounds like a good topic 06:52 < aestetix> we shall see lol 06:57 < aestetix> so what is very interesting about this election 06:57 < aestetix> is there a list of what newspapers have endorsd whom? 06:57 < aestetix> because I'm seeing a massive wave of endorsements for hillary, but none of them provide good reasons 06:58 < v4mp> you're expecting the progressive[sic] leftists to employ logic? 06:58 < aestetix> lol 06:59 < aestetix> but the sheer number of them at newspapers 06:59 < v4mp> newspapers & msm receive $$$ 06:59 < v4mp> rely on *feels* of the sheeple 07:03 < v4mp> how are politics in deutschland? 07:03 < aestetix> well good except for the rise of neonazis 07:04 < v4mp> haha 07:04 < aestetix> keep in mind, germany has the most stable economy in the EU 07:04 < v4mp> illogical response to illogical policies 07:04 < v4mp> such as Merkel shutting down your reactors 07:04 < aestetix> actually every country besides france and germany is fucked economically 07:05 < v4mp> woooohooo 07:06 < aestetix> there is definiting a rising faction that wants socialism 07:06 < aestetix> definitely* 07:14 < v4mp> on a lighter note 07:14 < v4mp> and seeing as I usually just lurk 07:14 < v4mp> hm ; did you go to oktoberfest? 07:14 < aestetix> nein 07:15 < aestetix> ich habe keine Zeit gehabt :/ 07:15 < v4mp> ach so 07:15 < v4mp> ='( 07:15 < aestetix> lol 07:32 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SljrHOsbKcM 07:49 < aestetix> ugh the sun is so bright 09:54 -!- Guest33073 [~brimstone@unaffiliated/brimstone] has joined #se2600 09:54 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Guest33073] by ChanServ 09:54 -!- Guest33073 is now known as brimstone 10:04 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ac80:d900:ece0:f9f:e123:5905] has joined #se2600 11:01 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ac80:d900:ece0:f9f:e123:5905] has quit [] 12:46 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ac80:d900:ece0:f9f:e123:5905] has joined #se2600 13:05 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ac80:d900:ece0:f9f:e123:5905] has quit [] 13:32 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ac80:d900:ece0:f9f:e123:5905] has joined #se2600 16:39 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ac80:d900:ece0:f9f:e123:5905] has quit [] 17:29 -!- TheDukh [~thedukh@2607:fcc8:ac80:d900:ece0:f9f:e123:5905] has joined #se2600 19:41 -!- xray [~xray@c-73-43-4-206.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:43 -!- rpifan [~rpi@73.106.73.154] has joined #se2600 19:56 -!- rpifan_ [~rpi@73.106.73.154] has joined #se2600 19:59 -!- rpifan [~rpi@73.106.73.154] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:00 -!- rpifan_ [~rpi@73.106.73.154] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:04 -!- rpifan [~rpi@73.106.73.154] has joined #se2600 20:29 -!- frsilent [~frsilent@unaffiliated/frsilent] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:29 -!- frsilent [~frsilent@198.91.88.88] has joined #se2600 20:29 -!- frsilent [~frsilent@198.91.88.88] has quit [Changing host] 20:29 -!- frsilent [~frsilent@unaffiliated/frsilent] has joined #se2600 20:29 -!- opticron [~opticron@75.76.59.35] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:30 -!- opticron [~opticron@75.76.59.35] has joined #se2600 20:30 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o opticron] by ChanServ 20:40 -!- rpifan [~rpi@73.106.73.154] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:47 -!- rpifan [~rpi@73.106.74.163] has joined #se2600 20:47 -!- rpifan [~rpi@73.106.74.163] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:01 < aestetix> wow 21:01 < aestetix> trump did not hold back 21:02 < aestetix> http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/09/trump-holds-pre-debate-press-conference-with-bill-clinton-accusers.html 21:07 < aestetix> I don't understand why fox news is the only outlet that covered that 21:07 < aestetix> nobody else 21:10 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: I'm still let down that he isn't bringing up the Lolita Express. 21:11 <@opticron> I've not heard that term 21:11 < _NSAKEY> opticron: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/14/bill-clinton-ditched-secret-service-on-multiple-lo/ 21:13 < aestetix> I just tuned in 21:13 < aestetix> Why are the moderators asking questions? I thought the point of a town hall was for undecided voters to ask questions 21:14 < aestetix> oh here we go 21:17 < aestetix> it seems that these debates are not going to change anyone's mind 21:17 < aestetix> but are going to make everyone more polarized 21:18 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: I don't understand how there are any undecided voters at this point. 21:18 < aestetix> I'm decided. I'm not voting for either of them. 21:18 < aestetix> lol 21:19 <@opticron> maybe they count 3rd party voters as "undecided" 21:19 <@opticron> aestetix, same 21:20 < aestetix> I mean if I had the choice 21:20 < aestetix> (1) trump (2) hillary (3) anyone else 21:20 < aestetix> I'll vote (3) 21:21 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: I'm in the same category as you. 21:25 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 21:25 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 21:28 < aestetix> Hillary looks pissed 21:29 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: You think she isn't a robot? 21:38 <@opticron> nah, she's a decent robot, that's why she can look pissed 21:42 < aestetix> I gotta say 21:42 < aestetix> I hate Donald, but he puts on a good show 21:45 < _NSAKEY> One of my co-workers likened it to a robot debating a child. 21:46 < aestetix> hahaa 21:47 < aestetix> this election does have a House of Cards feel to it 21:47 < aestetix> and it's telling that Lewinsky was not at that press conference 21:47 < aestetix> I wonder if trump is saving her for later 22:01 < aestetix> also, south park is back this week 22:17 < aestetix> hmmm 22:18 < aestetix> I just had a server go down. I rebooted it, and when it came up, it had a different ssh host key 22:18 <@opticron> erm...what? 22:19 < aestetix> yeah..... 22:19 < aestetix> and my login no longer works 22:19 <@opticron> hosted or bare metal? 22:19 < aestetix> bare metal 22:19 <@opticron> that's practically the worst 22:20 < aestetix> My current suspicion is that my host had a networking issue 22:22 < aestetix> let me try resetting it one more time 22:23 < aestetix> maybe it booted into a rescue mode or something 22:23 < aestetix> yeah that did it 22:24 < aestetix> but nothing scares me more than a system suddenly having a different ssh host key --- Log closed Mon Oct 10 00:00:31 2016