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00:49 < aestetix> damn it
00:49 < aestetix> I had a question for klixa
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05:35 < aestetix> rattle: https://guccifer2.wordpress.com/2016/06/15/dnc/
05:35 < aestetix> although I'm not sure why people think hosting hillary's emails with the state department would have made them any safer
05:36 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: He linked that above.
05:39 < aestetix> but for real
05:39 < aestetix> I mean OPM got hacked.
05:39 < aestetix> If OPM got hacked, an state department email server is also likely fair game
06:29 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:30 <@Dolemite> Ugh.  Don't bring up the OPM breach.  We have a 2.5 hour long conference meeting today on multi-factor auth.  I get it.  Why make me sit through 2.5 hours of PHB speaking about it?
07:13 <@Evilpig> because it takes telling you about it for 2.5 hours to make PHB understand it
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07:47  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
07:48 < aestetix> what is PHB?
07:48 <@Dolemite> Pointy Haired Boss.  Read some Dilbert.
07:48 < aestetix> ahhh
07:48 < aestetix> I'm watching a video of Sam Harris. One of the "new atheist" leaders.
07:48 < aestetix> He is a fucking moron.
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08:17 < aestetix> FUCKING SYSTEMD
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09:12 <@Evilpig> aestetix: a truer statement has never been said
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09:15 < aestetix> Evilpig: about sam harris or about systemd?
09:25 <@Evilpig> systemd
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10:43 <@oddball> Holy shit.  My buddy that decided to compile a handy list of people that are willing to train LGBT folks/help them get their carry permit for free is going to be interviewed by the BBC.
10:43 <@oddball> She's now trying to figure out the best way to record the interview herself to help protect her from the "Katy Couric treatment."
11:24 < aestetix> nice!
11:28 <@oddball> Damn shame that her reaction have to be "sweet!" followed by "ok, how do I protect myself from them pulling a hack job?"
11:28 < aestetix> but yeah I think based on a pessimistic view of human nature, which I increasing have, allowing everyone the choice of arming themselves does make the most sense
11:29 < aestetix> even if nobody has a gun, the thought that they might is probably enough to scare off a low level terrorirst
11:29 <@oddball> Yep.
11:29 < aestetix> and what I just said would get me excommunicated from "activist" groups
11:30 < aestetix> but logically, a criminal is not going to be thwarted but gun control laws, they will just get guns from the black market
11:30 <@oddball> It's annecdotal, but my dad currently does criminal defense in the Detroit area.  He's had multiple clients tell him that they may boost cars, etc, but robbery is now out because everyone has a gun.
11:30 < aestetix> and a terrorist does not care about laws and penalties because they are already planning on going out with a bang
11:31 <@oddball> aestetix: Yeah.  I've known some pro-gun LGBT types, and they're pretty much shunned by most LBGT activist groups because of it.
11:31 < aestetix> So yes. It's not making sure everyone is armed that would be deterrent. It's the notion that everyone *might* be armed.
11:32 <@oddball> And then there are the Pink Pistols... that have been straight up called traitors...
11:32 < aestetix> What exactly are they traitors to?
11:32 <@oddball> They're a LBGT pro-gun group.
11:32 <@Dolemite> Yeah, not quite getting a connection between educating and being a traitor
11:33 < aestetix> What does LGBT have to do with owning a gun?
11:33 < aestetix> unless the G stands for gun...
11:33 <@oddball> According to many of the LGBT groups, owning guns makes them evil haters.
11:34 < aestetix> haters of what?
11:34 <@oddball> it's wrong think.
11:35 < aestetix> Is this the same kind of group that follows Sam Harris and Richard Dawkins even though all of their arguments are poorly constructed strawmen?
11:35 <@oddball> The thought process is that guns can only be used to hurt/intimidate members of the LGBT community.  It's apparently impossible for them to use guns as tools to protect themselves.
11:36 < aestetix> Well if you include LGBT as a subset of the group of EVERYONE sure
11:37 < aestetix> But yeah that's stupid.
11:37 <@oddball> Same reason that a lot of feminist groups would literally rather have a woman get violently raped than for that woman to be carrying, pull the gun, and put one between the scum's eyes.
11:37 < aestetix> Not even that.
11:37 < aestetix> How about having the woman not get raped because the guy is afraid she might have a gun?
11:38 <@oddball> nope! It includes her having a gun!  Evil!
11:38 < aestetix> So they are against empowering women?
11:39 <@oddball> Because everyone knows that a woman is too weak, and the attacker will just take it and use it on her.  Anyways, guns are WAAAAYYYY to complicated for women to figure out.
11:39 <@oddball> These are actual arguments I've been told by feminists.
11:39 < aestetix> So they would prefer to be powerless
11:40 < aestetix> reminds me of when I was a teenager and would argue with police
11:40 <@oddball> "so... no guns for women, because women are feable, stupid, and need to be taken care of?"
11:40 < aestetix> and got pissed by how quickly they refuted me
11:40 <@oddball> "I didn't say that!"
11:40 < aestetix> "but I can speed here, I know this street really well"
11:41 < aestetix> "oh, so you'd rather kill someone you know, than a total stranger?"
11:42 <@oddball> See, the cynical jackass that I am would have just responded "yeah, well, the law says no faster than x.  Therefor, you're breaking the law.  Here's your ticket."
11:42 <@Dolemite> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy7xDGi5lp4
11:42 < aestetix> lol
11:42 < PigBot> Title: James Bond vs Austin Powers - Epic Rap Battles of History - Season 5 - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/hzashre
11:42 <@Dolemite> On a lighter note
11:42 <@Dolemite> New Epic Rap Battles of History
11:42 <@oddball> I've actually said multiple times recently "That's the law.  I've never said that the law has to make sense."
11:43 < aestetix> jhttps://github.com/blog/2188-git-2-9-has-been-released
11:43 < PigBot> Title: Git 2.9 has been released · GitHub (at github.com) http://tinyurl.com/hqgw9vx
12:22 <@Evilpig> oddball: will I be seeing you tonight at the opry?
12:22 <@oddball> No.  I've got too much shit to do before Hypericon, which... starts tomorrow.
12:23 <@Evilpig> I'll be sure to take pictures and shit then
12:27 <@oddball> Should be a good show.
12:58 < aestetix> oddball: if you're looking for comedic relief, I recommend watching the videos of Dashcon
13:13 <@oddball> There was a brief discussion of obtaining a kiddy pool and some balls.
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13:33 <@jb7od> So I calls godaddy, right? I says "I need to get reverse dns for my domain" I says.
13:34 <@jb7od> First level guy says "what?" and after some discourse it comes to light that he doesn't know what reverse dns IS.
13:34 <@jb7od> Then after further discourse, his superiors told him to tell me "No."
13:35 < aestetix> http://downdetector.com/status/facebook/news/53218-problems-at-facebook
13:35 < PigBot> Title: Problems at Facebook | Down Detector (at downdetector.com) http://tinyurl.com/jm7ppmb
13:35 < aestetix> apparently facebook is down
13:35 <@jb7od> I ask why and am told that "it is not allowed."
13:42 <@oddball> aestetix: just the messenger service.
13:44 < aestetix> ohhhh wait
13:44 < aestetix> no wonder it's down for me
13:45 < aestetix> I have all their domains blocked in my hosts file :p
13:45 <@oddball> heh
13:54 <@jb7od> However, despite my disappointment at my hosting provider, Linode panel has a way around it if you have a working A.
13:54 <@jb7od> I've had situations where I have had to call and ask and beg for reverse dns for work, but never been told "no".
13:56 <@jb7od> If there wasn't a way through linode, I'd be migrating right nowwwww......
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15:35 <@rattle> I have finally been freed of the conference room I have been in since 9am.  I hate days like this.
15:43 < aestetix> rattle: sore jaw?
15:44 <@rattle> Now that you mention it, yeah, it is a bit.
15:44 < aestetix> did you wear kneepads?
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23:39 <@Dagmar> So... who wants some grown-up furniture, cheap.
23:44 <@Dagmar> 3-seat black leather couch, matching love-seats.  Couple of smoked glass end tables and lamps, matching coffee table (annoying crack in the middle).  Originally $399, now... _way_ cheaper.  Offers involving "will pick it up" can get just disturbingly cheap
23:45 <@Dagmar> I'm keeping my paper lamps, but a whole lotta stuff is just gonna have to go
23:45 <@Dagmar> Gonna get me a uhaul this weekend at some point
23:47 <@Dagmar> I gotta say... from now on I'm running Android Studio over remote desktops... because three different installations with all the damn patching they do...
23:47 <@Dagmar> Ugh.
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