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01:36 < jb7od_> rattle: https://freenode.net/groupreg
01:36 < PigBot> Title: Group registration - freenode (at freenode.net) http://tinyurl.com/zmzt5mb
01:36 < jb7od_> Evidently the directions are to blow up an oper and beg. lol
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02:26 < aestetix> man
02:27 < aestetix> trying to tell the repair guy to do something tomorrow, when your cat, who is named Morgan (the german word for tomorrow) is being a bitch
02:29 < jb7od_> aestetix, How's the job scene auf .de?
02:30 < jb7od_> in the computer pimpin sector.
02:32 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: You should rename your cat to something offensive in German, to heighten the comedy of those sorts of conversations.
02:35 < jb7od_> Swearing with germans is fun as hell. We spent way too long trying to get them to susinctly translate "This dick in your mouth" and the closest we could get was "Mine peimel (sp) in der MUNT!"
02:35 < jb7od_> they just shook their heads and we laughed until we cried.
02:35 < aestetix> jb7od_: in berlin, the tech scene is booming
02:35 < aestetix> and they are hurting because all the tech workers are going to the bay area
02:36 < jb7od_> booming like oversaturated?
02:36 < aestetix> no the opposite
02:36 < jb7od_> bay area US?
02:36 < jb7od_> BRAIN DRAAAIN!! lol
02:36 < aestetix> example: I think it took our company like.... five months to find a good frontend developer
02:37 < jb7od_> that sort of happened with these dudes that worked in India global support after they figured out what we made.
02:37 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: I wonder how that will change when the 2nd bubble pops.
02:37 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: we are trying to hire for a ruby dev right now
02:37 < aestetix> 60% of the applications are coming from the bay area and nyc
02:38 < _NSAKEY> Can't say that I'm surprised.
02:38 < aestetix> it's because of the overinflated salaries in the bay area
02:38 < aestetix> nobody takes into account the cost of living
02:38 < jb7od_> Is the pay messed up?
02:38 < aestetix> jb7od_: where
02:38 < aestetix> in the bay area, a standard salary for a ruby dev is 150-180k
02:39 < aestetix> but average rent is like 4k
02:39 < aestetix> so do the math
02:39 < jb7od_> not berlin, the drained region- but you answered when you answered _NSAKEY
02:39 < aestetix> berlin is way more reasonable
02:39 < aestetix> like, average pay for a dev is like 40k here, maybe 50k for an experienced one
02:40 < aestetix> but rent is like 400 a month
02:40 < jb7od_> Do they live in the projects?
02:40 < aestetix> well this is berlin
02:40 < aestetix> remember that berlin was destroyed in ww2
02:40 < aestetix> and then there was the whole wall thing
02:40 < aestetix> so yes, parts of the city are still in shambles
02:40 < jb7od_> now I'm thinking they must stay in underground tunnels.
02:41 < aestetix> also germany doesn't really have projects like in the US
02:41 < aestetix> since here "ghetto" means where they used to make the jews live
02:41 < aestetix> not where the blacks live
02:41 < jb7od_> Oh, I remember, I was kiddin. The closest thing we saw to a project were these weird apartment buildings that were inhabited solely by turks.
02:42 < aestetix> yeah
02:42 < jb7od_> yeah, turks are to germany what.. yeah, that.
02:42 < aestetix> in fact, the gentrification wars here are between the hipsters and the turks
02:42 < jb7od_> we went to a turkish disco and our host bros got in a fight with these dudes.
02:43 < aestetix> like in the US, blacks are the very bottom social class
02:43 < aestetix> in germany, blacks are more normal, the turks are the bottom
02:43 < jb7od_> then in like 2k I started meeting punk rocker germans who were actually pro-turk, which was a big big shift from the attitudes in 94 about it.
02:43 < aestetix> which I admit.. it's nice not to have black/white racial tension
02:44 < aestetix> although it's replaced by everyone/everyone racial tension :p
02:44 < jb7od_> man, we partied with those turk guys though.
02:45 < jb7od_> Super fun.
02:45 < aestetix> although I think the lowest of the low classes is Donald Trump
02:45 < aestetix> everyone hates him
02:46 < jb7od_> What blows my mind the hardest about the Trump thing is that *anyone* thinks that's a good idea.
02:47 < _NSAKEY> It's a good idea... If you want the world to go into nuclear winter.
02:48 < jb7od_> The fear of him getting anywhere is natural, but the whole system just fell down a whole bunch of pegs. If he wins, he'll lose to Kanye next, and by that time we'll be up to WWVIII
02:48 < jb7od_> haha right?
02:50 < jb7od_> 4k rent vs 4-50k/a has still got me fucked up.
02:50 < jb7od_> You'd need two wives with jobs to pull that off plus one wife per kid.
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03:33 < aestetix> jb7od: why do you think things in SF are so broken
03:33 < aestetix> nobody can afford to live there except for rich tech workers
03:33 < aestetix> rich single tech workers with no kids
06:20 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:22  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
06:22 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: I think I can say we're all glad you didn't get your student loans in China. https://news.slashdot.org/story/16/06/14/1957222/online-loans-made-in-china-using-nude-pictures-as-collateral
06:22 <@Dolemite> You're getting faster
06:22 < PigBot> Title: Online Loans Made In China Using Nude Pictures As Collateral - Slashdot (at news.slashdot.org) http://tinyurl.com/hxr3h3w
06:22 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: actually I may renew my passport soon
06:22 < aestetix> since apparently one of the provisions of this TTIP thing is that if you have outstanding US debts, they just won't let you renew your passport
06:22 < _NSAKEY> You should get a Chinese student loan using goatse.
06:23 < aestetix> lolol
06:24 < aestetix> http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2016/01/04/2016-brings-irs-power-over-passports-use-of-private-debt-collectors/#549de30fd19d
06:24 < PigBot> Title: 2016 Brings IRS Power Over Passports, Use Of Private Debt Collectors (at www.forbes.com) http://tinyurl.com/gsmxjlp
06:24 < aestetix> fucking fascists
06:25 < aestetix> maybe instead of being nazis they could fix the other debt problems they have
06:32 < _NSAKEY> https://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9241633&cid=52319809
06:32 < PigBot> Title: Online Loans Made In China Using Nude Pictures As Collateral - Slashdot (at news.slashdot.org) http://tinyurl.com/j99jre2
06:35 < _NSAKEY> The pictures make this one. The article text is written by an idiot. https://www.hackread.com/someone-is-hacking-traffic-sings-in-us/
06:35 < PigBot> Title: Someone is hacking traffic signs in US and replacing them with their own messages (at www.hackread.com) http://tinyurl.com/hp6jdzy
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07:06 < sicsscam> they have passwords on them yet? Use to mess with them 15 years ago. pick the lock and plug a keyboard in and change away
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09:27 < aestetix> rattle: any new jake news?
09:28 < aestetix> it seems like things have settled down. no new allegations
09:29 <@rattle> I stopped paying attention once I wore out all my best jokes.
09:29 < aestetix> lol
09:29 < aestetix> I'm also unaware of anyone who has talked ot the police.
09:29 < aestetix> Which.... you'd think would be a no brainer.
09:29 <@rattle> Jake is making cryptography great again.  His cryptography is the best.  <--- Oops!  Missed one.
09:30 < aestetix> hahhahaa
09:30 <@rattle> It seemed like everyone involved just wanted the whole matter and Jake to go away.
09:50 < aestetix> rattle: unfortunately, that's not how the law works.
09:51 < aestetix> IMHO, the longer this goes without additional movement, the less I believe any of the "stories"
09:52 < aestetix> Along with the fact that it does not take rape to fire someone from a job for sexual misconduct.
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10:48 <@rattle> Great.  A SAN meltdown.  So that's how my day is going to go..
10:49 < aestetix> I am starting to be convinced Twitter has been taken over by fauxminists
10:50 < aestetix> http://www.breitbart.com/
10:50 < PigBot> Title: Breitbart News Network (at www.breitbart.com) http://tinyurl.com/o6f5w
11:01 < aestetix> rattle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsvK2l3b_fE
11:01 < PigBot> Title: Stephen Colbert and Bill OReilly Discuss The Political Response To Orlando - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/jaxw5zf
11:02 < aestetix> rattle: we really need a new Buckley. I'd love to see the return of Firing Line.
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13:59 <@jb7od> Psh. Does freenode just not allow colors?
14:00 <@jb7od> disregard... hmmm... something's werid...
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16:55 <@rattle> O_O https://guccifer2.wordpress.com/2016/06/15/dnc/
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18:12 <@Evilpig> rattle: oops.  lol
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19:34 <@Catonic> sup folks?
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