--- Log opened Mon May 09 00:00:58 2016 01:15 -!- RangerZ [~RangerZ@c-98-211-46-34.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:12 -!- RangerZ [~RangerZ@c-98-211-46-34.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 02:12 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o RangerZ] by ChanServ 04:59 < aestetix> I would kill to hear a lecture from a feminist who doesn't have an axe to grind 05:00 < aestetix> So much of this shit is just ranting based on anger and a mix of misplaced vocab words 06:25 -!- rattle [4a425f56@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 06:25 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 06:30 -!- Dolemite [~scott@96-38-96-37.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #se2600 06:30 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Dolemite] by ChanServ 06:34 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 06:36 * aestetix hugs Dolemite 07:08 < aestetix> https://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/onlinecensorship/posts/pdfs/000/000/044/original/Onlinecensorship.org_Report_-_31_March_2016.pdf?1459436925 07:08 < PigBot> aestetix: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 20480 bytes. 07:32 -!- rattle [4a425f56@tor/regular/rattle] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:04 -!- rattle [041c8581@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 08:04 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 09:16 -!- jaake [~h4ckm3@129.59.122.11] has joined #se2600 09:16 -!- jaake [~h4ckm3@129.59.122.11] has left #se2600 [] 09:33 <@rattle> Feel old yet? No? Well . . . technically, emacs is now a lightweight app. How do you like them apples grandpa. 09:34 <@rattle> Speaking of old, where the fuck did Dagmar go? 09:35 < dasunt> What's EMACS memory footprint now? 09:35 <@Dolemite> 72 GB 09:40 < dasunt> Hmmm. Looks like EMACs can get up to a few gigs depending on how many buffers you have open. 09:40 < aestetix> rattle: I started feeling old when I ran into "fullstack javascript programmers" who are afraid of using the command line 09:40 < dasunt> But otherwise, I'm seeing reports in the hundreds of megs. 09:41 < dasunt> It is weird to google Emacs memory usage and find people switching to it because it uses less memory. 09:41 < dasunt> But I felt old when I saw that article a few days ago that the average webpage is now bigger than the original DOOM. 09:42 < aestetix> including the page the article was on 09:43 < dasunt> I need to hit Wayback Machine or something because I remember webpages being a lot more functional back in HTML4 days, and maybe I'm suffering from nostalgia. 09:44 <@rattle> It's nostalgia. You've forgotten what it was like to have your browser crash for no reason then take 2 minutes to start back up again. 09:45 < dasunt> True. Now it's only the webpage that stalls as javashit for web2.0 either times out or has an error. 09:45 <@Dolemite> I remember crashing my first home computer because I wrote too large of a program for it. It was a Timex/Sinclair 1000 with 2K of RAM. 09:45 < dasunt> First time I used a Sun system, I crashed it because I didn't realize that /tmp was in memory. 09:49 < aestetix> nothing wrong with ramdisks 09:49 < aestetix> unless the path is /var/lib/mysql 10:00 < dasunt> 2nd page, 4th paragraph: https://www.scribd.com/doc/287813337/Andre-Bisasor-v-Harvard 10:00 < PigBot> Title: Andre Bisasor v Harvard (at www.scribd.com) http://tinyurl.com/jy3nlbf 10:00 < dasunt> If that's grounds for legal action, the entire internet is screwed. 10:02 < aestetix> german girls are fucking hot 10:11 < aestetix> http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/26/11508852/furbo-tomofun-dog-treat-dispenser-camera-app 10:11 < PigBot> aestetix: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 20480 bytes. 10:11 < aestetix> wow 10:19 < dasunt> Old news, but ballsy: http://reason.com/blog/2008/12/06/gotcha 10:19 < PigBot> Title: Gotcha! - Hit & Run : Reason.com (at reason.com) http://tinyurl.com/gqv9hyp 10:19 < dasunt> I should google what happened to the cops in that case, but I suspect the answer is "nothing of consequence". 10:23 < aestetix> lol accountability for someone in power? 11:00 < dasunt> It's only part of the government breaking the law, why should we care? 11:39 -!- rattle [041c8581@tor/regular/rattle] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:40 -!- rattle [041c8581@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 11:40 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 11:40 <@jb7od> Not completely sure where everybody is, this may be Nashville-centric but I'm conducting social experiementation with a coyboy hat. 11:40 <@jb7od> People don't say SHIT about it, for one. 11:41 <@jb7od> You could go anywhere with it on and nobody bats an eye. 11:41 <@rattle> This is a thing I have done.. I wore a black cowboy hat for about a year. 11:41 <@rattle> In NYC, I used to get some strange looks. 11:41 <@jb7od> It's a fuckin riot is what it is. 11:41 <@rattle> I concur. 11:42 <@jb7od> yeah, I bet it'd be harder there, but it's so taken for granted in TN that I'm finding I could likely infiltrate all sorts of situations I'd ordinarilly be unwelcome to. 11:42 < dasunt> rattle: So you were an urban cowboy for a year? 11:43 <@rattle> Around the MTSU campus and in Nashville, no one batted an eye. 11:43 <@rattle> It got me a weird sort of celebrity status when I was kicking it on capitol hill. 11:43 <@jb7od> Women seem to respond positively to it as well, which was an unexpected finding. 11:43 <@jb7od> HAHAHA! 11:43 <@rattle> I'm a console cowboy. 11:44 <@jb7od> Hell yeah, man! lol! 11:45 <@jb7od> I got pulled over a few weeks ago wearing a navy knit sock hat. It was a little crisp out, mid- top- of the 60's. Cop was all blah blah and bear in mind I drive a family van and had two kids in tow, but he lets me go. We get done with that and I'm like wtf and the kids say "Dad, it's the hat.". 11:48 <@jb7od> man. what years were you at mtsu rattle? I'm thinkin I actually have a dusty memory of that... 11:54 <@rattle> 1995-1997, 2005-2007. 11:54 <@jb7od> I guess not. That's right in the gap where I went... 11:55 <@jb7od> The gap is when I went, rather. (ahem) 12:21 < aestetix> rattle: you went back to school in 2005? 12:22 -!- northrup [~northrup@173.14.101.193] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:33 <@rattle> aestetix: Yeah. My consulting business was basically on cruise control, funneling just enough money so that I could survive and pay for school, so I went back and finished my degree. I figured what the hell, either I'd do it then or never.. 12:38 < aestetix> rattle: at this point my goal is to somehow get an honorary degree :p 12:46 < aestetix> wait 12:46 < aestetix> a black cowboy hat in NYC 12:46 < aestetix> wouldn't that make you.... a midnight cowboy? ;) 12:52 < _NSAKEY> rattle: Dagmar's been moving... Again. 12:52 < _NSAKEY> When I saw him on Saturday, he claimed he would be back online soon. 12:52 < aestetix> has Corydon abandoned the channel? 12:53 < _NSAKEY> You would have to ask him that. 13:02 < dasunt> rattle: How old are you? 13:03 <@rattle> 39 13:10 < aestetix> you're almost over the hill 13:17 < dasunt> rattle: Cool. I'm about your age and I'm debating what to do career-wise as well. 13:19 < dasunt> College seems interesting, but I'm not sure if I'd want to go to night classes + work full time, and I'm making enough that not working for four years would be a lot of money. 13:24 < dasunt> Maybe certs are the way to go... 13:29 <@rattle> The SANS classes/certs are pretty good. 13:30 < dasunt> What would I be looking at for a career though afterwards? 13:30 * dasunt probably should check job listings. 13:30 <@rattle> Depends on which track you took. 13:31 < dasunt> FFS - my bank *lost* a transaction I know I made. 13:31 < dasunt> WTF? 13:34 < dasunt> It was pending on the account last Wednesday. Now it's gone. 13:35 * dasunt goes to call the bank. 13:38 < aestetix> rattle: what is your degree in? 13:39 < dasunt> And it's a mystery for the bank as well. 13:39 < aestetix> dasunt: was it a withdrawal? 13:40 < dasunt> aestetix: Yep. Spent $300 or so at the vet's office last week. 13:40 < aestetix> then shut up! 13:40 < dasunt> Hey, I prefer to know *how* much my balance is. 13:40 <@rattle> Electronic Communications Management 13:40 < aestetix> rattle: wtf is that 13:41 < dasunt> Not this Shroedinger's accounting that my bank's new online system appears to embrace. 13:59 <@rattle> It's a communications degree with a focus on electronic media, and in my case, the recording industry. 14:00 < aestetix> so uh 14:00 <@rattle> It was more fun than just getting a CS degree. 14:00 < aestetix> does anyone have a copy of the new game of thrones? 14:04 < dasunt> Saw it last night. It was a nice Dorne-free episode 14:05 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: How do you not have a copy already? 14:07 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: I was busy with other stuff lol 14:07 < dasunt> You must watch. 14:07 < aestetix> but yeah, it seems that digitalocean has a script running to autonotify anyone who downloads it that they are infringing on HBO 14:08 < aestetix> and I'm tired of getting those mails 14:08 < dasunt> You could actually pay for HBO Go or whatever they are calling it. 14:08 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Why haven't you gotten something via a hetzner or OVH reseller? 14:08 < _NSAKEY> Either of those hosts give a single fuck. 14:08 < aestetix> dasunt: no I can't 14:08 < _NSAKEY> Digital Ocean is American. 14:09 < _NSAKEY> dasunt: He's not in the US. 14:09 < aestetix> dasunt: HBO Go only works for US 14:09 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: because Germany has very harsh anti-piracy laws 14:09 < _NSAKEY> I think you're missing the part where Hetzner doesn't care. 14:10 < _NSAKEY> I've been using Hetzner and OVH boxes for years and haven't had a single bit of trouble. 14:10 < aestetix> for torrenting? 14:10 < _NSAKEY> Then again, I'm not located in their host countries. 14:10 < dasunt> aestetix: Oh. I didn't realize you were German. What part? 14:10 < _NSAKEY> So, I can see why you might be uneasy about using a German box. 14:10 < aestetix> dasunt: Berlin 14:10 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: yes. If the US wants to cause problems for me, I want to make it as hard as possible. 14:11 < dasunt> aestetix: So not where my family is from then. ;) 14:11 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: This is rapidly descending into a PM-only conversation. 14:11 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: you haven't even started asking me sex questions yet 14:12 < _NSAKEY> And I never will, because you strike me as the kind of person who views scat as vanilla. 14:12 < _NSAKEY> You're also in Germany, and I think we all know those motherfuckers have some of the strangest porn outside of the Pacific rim. 14:16 < dasunt> So I called the vet office, and their system looks fine. 14:18 < dasunt> I'm really thinking about getting a new bank account somewhere else now. This is getting pretty rediculous. 14:18 < aestetix> dasunt: what bank 14:18 < dasunt> aestetix: A small local cooperative. 14:18 < aestetix> credit union or bank? 14:19 < dasunt> aestetix: Bank. 14:20 < dasunt> Before, the online ledger was "losing" transactions for about a day when they shifted from being pending to actually posting, *but* still showing the correct account balance. 14:20 < dasunt> I could live with that glitch. Annoying as hell when I went to reconcile accounts, but whatever. 14:21 < dasunt> But actually losing transactions? 14:21 * dasunt doesn't like this development. 14:39 < dasunt> http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36250284 14:39 < PigBot> Title: N Carolina sues US Justice Department over LGBT law - BBC News (at www.bbc.com) http://tinyurl.com/hfp7um9 14:40 < dasunt> Government so small that it goes into a public restroom stall with you. 14:45 < _NSAKEY> dasunt: Sounds like the kind of government one would want to flush down the toilet. 14:47 < aestetix> why is this toilet crap a fucking law 14:47 < aestetix> it's stupid 14:48 <@opticron> has NC started yelling "states rights!" yet? 14:48 < aestetix> I'm all about states rights, but I'm also about common sense 14:48 < aestetix> and legislating someone's toilet habits is fucking stupid 14:55 <@rattle> It is unbelievably stupid. 14:55 <@rattle> That whole situation makes me genuinely angry. 14:58 < aestetix> It's like they are playing a game of chicken with the federal government 14:58 < aestetix> However, given Trump, and the SCOTUS drama, I'm not sure the GOP has bandwidth for it 15:02 -!- rattle_ [041c8581@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 15:02 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle_] by ChanServ 15:02 -!- rattle [041c8581@tor/regular/rattle] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:09 < dasunt> It's scapegoating. 15:10 < dasunt> Easier to fearmonger over a threat that's effectively nonexistant than to address real problems with tough solutions. 16:02 -!- rattle_ [041c8581@tor/regular/rattle] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:12 < aestetix> wait 17:13 < aestetix> did donald trump seriously just suggest we can solve the debt problem by printing more money? 17:14 < cyberanger> Whatever he's on, I hope he legalizes it. 17:15 < aestetix> I have two words for him: Weimar Republic 17:25 < cyberanger> I have one, impeachment 17:28 < dasunt> aestetix: Turns out that Trump's grasp of economics is about as good as his grasp of everything else. 18:22 < aestetix> well there is one thing he is damned fucking good at 18:23 < aestetix> he's a brilliant con artist 18:29 < aestetix> unrelated: I hate getting urgent support emails literally when I am about to go to sleep 18:37 -!- fluxym0n [~pi@69.84.70.53] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:10 -!- rattle [4a425f56@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 22:10 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 22:46 < _NSAKEY> http://thecasefortrump.com/ 22:46 < PigBot> Title: The Case For Trump (at thecasefortrump.com) http://tinyurl.com/hxnsmq9 22:47 <@Catonic> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdKI1wj-JpI 22:47 < PigBot> Title: Bishop Bullwinkel - Hell to the naw naw - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/jqy5trz 22:52 -!- Catonic_ [~catonic@157.sub-70-193-109.myvzw.com] has joined #se2600 22:53 -!- Catonic [~catonic@103.sub-70-193-122.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] --- Log closed Tue May 10 00:00:01 2016