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03:55 < aestetix> RangerZ: how much do you know about Jim Crow laws?
06:11 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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07:08  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
07:17 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: just got an email from westgate for an early check in
07:19 <@Dolemite> I won't be there until about 8 PM
07:25 < aestetix> RangerZ: more fun for you: http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/impactofsocialsciences/2016/03/08/gender-bias-in-academe-an-annotated-bibliography/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+feedburner%2FLSEImpactBlog+%28LSE+Impact+Blog%29
07:25 < PigBot> Couldn't snarf url: HTTP Error 403: Bad Behavior. http://tinyurl.com/hqgc7ql
07:25 < aestetix> http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/impactofsocialsciences/2016/03/08/gender-bias-in-academe-an-annotated-bibliography/
07:25 < aestetix> or that
07:25 < PigBot> Couldn't snarf url: HTTP Error 403: Bad Behavior. http://tinyurl.com/h3e2rcz
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07:59 < aestetix> oh wow
07:59 < aestetix> http://www.timesfreepress.com/cartoons/2016/apr/13/transforming-america/2491/
07:59 < PigBot> Title: Transforming America | Times Free Press (at www.timesfreepress.com) http://tinyurl.com/z39f42a
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09:09 <@Mirage> Evilpig: Westgate?
09:09 <@Dolemite> Same company owns the River Terrace as the Westgate Smoky Mountains Resort
09:09 <@Dolemite> Westgate is the name of the company
09:09 <@Mirage> Ah, ok
09:11 <@Mirage> I haven't gotten anything yet.  When do they say early check-in?
09:12 <@Dolemite> Dunno.  I haven't gotten anything - either that, or it landed in spam.
09:12 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: Did you book through the hotel website or through Expedia?
09:13 <@Mirage> Nothing in Dspam for me
09:18 <@Dolemite> I booked through Expedia, so it's likely that I won't get anything
09:18 <@Dolemite> But again, I won't be there until about 8 PM
09:25 <@Evilpig> don't remember.
09:26 <@Evilpig> maybe through the hotel directly
09:26 <@Dolemite> That's probably why you got an email
09:31 <@Mirage> Dolemite: ditto on the booking
09:32 <@Dolemite> But this should be a decent weekend.  It's too late for Spring Break, too early for Summer Vacation.
09:32 <@Dolemite> They even had the locals get in for $5 to Ripley's Aquarium this week
09:33 <@Dolemite> They only do that when it's not normally busy
09:55 < oddball> Holy shit.  Just had someone at Comcast respond with "well, shit.  That's not right.  Hold on, let me fix that."
09:55 <@Dolemite> They must be new
09:56 < oddball> On related note, did you know that their system won't let them credit your account more than $150 in a day?
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09:57 <@oddball> So... in theory, my account is flagged to get another credit Monday.
10:02 <@Dolemite> So...   more liquor money
10:08 <@Mirage> Dolemite: Geek Death March should be "Little River Trail", right?  The one we intended on last time.
10:10 <@Mirage> http://bit.ly/2705uNN
10:10 < PigBot> Title: Google Maps (at bit.ly) ERROR
10:16 <@Dolemite> I suppose
10:17 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: we need to go on a road trip to New Hampshire
10:17 <@Dolemite> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Chk_omhWMAEYVZj.jpg
10:17 <@Dolemite> I need to eat that sandwich, and I think you need one, too
10:18 <@Evilpig> I just want the bun and some bbq in it
10:19 <@Dolemite> It's appropriately named 'The Squealer'
10:20 <@Dolemite> Ingredients: Pig roll, bacon, ham, Italian sausage, pepperoni, pulled pork, cheddar cheese, BBQ sauce.
10:27 < dasunt> I was thinking about this, and I believe that there's a link between the availability of credit cards and the Republican party's support.
10:28 < dasunt> I've been reading interviews done with people of all income levels and different rates of savings.
10:28 < dasunt> The poor, obviously living hand to mouth, worry about their taxes going up.
10:29 < dasunt> Even the relatively affluent, who spend most of their income, worry about their taxes going up.
10:30 < dasunt> Those that have a high rate of savings - e.g. those that live well below their means, don't have the same worry about the taxes.
10:30 < dasunt> Pretty obvious, of course - if you're spending all that you are making, any increase in taxes is going to be a problem, since that's less money in your pocket.
10:31 < dasunt> Which is where credit cards come in - by providing credit, it not only allows people to live beyond their means, but it allows them to see other people around them living beyond their means.  And since we're social primates, if the neighbors have a ton of crap, we want a ton of crap.
10:32 < dasunt> Which is probably part of the reason why our savings rate in this country is so poor.
10:32 <@Mirage> Dolemite: That sandwich is tainted...unless the cheese is made from pig milk.   Should be no cow on that at all.
10:33 < dasunt> So we have a bunch of people living paycheck to paycheck, in debt over credit cards.  Guess what party they'll vote for - obviously the party that talks about cutting taxes.  I. e. Republicans.
10:41 <@Dolemite> It's more of a case that the class of folks who are struggling to make ends meet have been convinced that things are so hard for them because they are carrying the weight of freeloaders
10:41 <@Dolemite> So the more you struggle, the tighter you hold on to the belief that it's someone else's fault
10:44 < dasunt> As I've said before, I'm convinced that the middle class loves to shoot itself in the foot when it comes to making ends meet.
10:45 <@Dolemite> ayepo
10:47 < dasunt> But if I can't have two late model cars, a giant house and garage, and regular expensive vacations plus the latest gadgets, it's the welfare bums' fault.
10:52 <@Mirage> dasunt: but if i haven't hit the limit on my CC's I have money I can spend...
10:52 <@Mirage> And if I have...get moar!
10:52  * Mirage coming from someone who's been debt free sans house payment for 15+ years
10:53 <@Dolemite> Yeah, I was up until I got married and had kids :P
10:53 <@Dolemite> Anyway, lunch time
10:54 <@oddball> Mirage: Yep... been there pretty much my entire life.  Found out that I needed to carry some credit, or I got treated worse than a criminal.
10:56 <@Mirage> oddball: I have my utilities billed to a CC and pay it off each month.
10:56 <@Mirage> The wife and I both have 800+ ratings
10:56 <@oddball> Yeah... when I was living in apartments, the utilities happened to always be in my roommate's name.
10:57 <@oddball> That's why I actually got a loan for that Volvo wagon I bought while at Vandy.  Paid it off in 5 months, but...
10:58 <@oddball> Funny thing is that, last I looked, Vandy's credit union was still reporting that I was paying my monthly payments on time.
10:58 <@Mirage> I did that too for a few years.  Then i tried to do something requiring credit and had nothing in my history at all.  To me that would be good, but like you said, as far as they were concerned I was high risk, etc.
10:59 <@oddball> I knew a guy that had proven that he was a bad bet to the point that he couldn't get a bank account.  He was actually treated better at somme places.
11:00 <@oddball> (example: getting a cell phone)
11:08 < dasunt> I'm still trying to get the mortgage paid off early.  Not that it's the wisest investment (stocks would be better in the long term) but because I just want the freedom of having housing down to about $200/mo costs if I need to (property taxes + utilities).
11:08 < aestetix> http://phrack.org/issues/69/1.html
11:09 < PigBot> Title: .:: Phrack Magazine ::. (at phrack.org) http://tinyurl.com/jv7ha54
11:09 < dasunt> But yah, my credit is completely fucked up because I use a debit card.
11:09 < dasunt> It's totally annoying.  I'm a poor credit risk because I live within my means.
11:10 <@oddball> dasunt: The security of knowing that the bank isn't going to take your house if your finances go seriously sideways would be really nice.
11:10 <@oddball> I know, right?
11:10 < dasunt> To demonistrate I'm a good credit risk, I'll need to get a secured card I don't need, then use the card I don't need, delaying paying my bills and making my book keeping more annoying, just to show I can be trusted with money.
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11:11 < dasunt> oddball: A friend of mine bought his second home (which he literally named "Mouse Turd Castle" for the condition it was in) with cash, after losing his first home.
11:11 <@oddball> heh
11:11 < dasunt> oddball: The great recession sure taught him a valuable lesson.  I'm a little envious, even though he's had to put in a year of work into the place so far.
11:12 <@oddball> Yeah.  It would be nice to own my house outright.
11:14 < dasunt> House is my only debt.
11:15 < dasunt> And it'll be paid off soon.  But it's a very modest house.
11:15 <@oddball> Always a good place to be.
11:15 < dasunt> Also, I think we're back in a housing bubble.
11:16 <@oddball> Oh, and one of my friends is learning the hard way one very good reason to buy instead of rent.  She's been in the same apartment for 25 years... and the landlord is selling to a developer that wants to level the place.
11:17 < dasunt> The thing that's happening around here is buying apartments, then kicking everyone out, throw a few grand of remodeling into each unit, then raising the rent and attracting a new crowd.
11:18 <@oddball> yep.
11:18 < dasunt> Oh, so speaking of costs, my brother (from a wee little rural town) did not believe me when I said what my little house is assessed at.
11:18 <@oddball> I think this develooper is at least planning on leveling the units and building a new complex.
11:18 <@oddball> heh
11:19 <@oddball> Reverse of what folks think when they come here from NYC or California?
11:20 < dasunt> The corner lot down the street from me is around $92k.
11:20 < dasunt> Lot, not house.
11:20 <@oddball> right
11:21 < dasunt> I think my lot, which is probably around 35' wide and 150' long is around $50k or so.
11:24 <@sasquatc3> yea id definitely agree the bubble is back, zillow is saying within a few months my house will be almost half a million, which is re-god-damn-diculous
11:24 <@sasquatc3> it was ~200k when i bought it 4-5 years ago
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11:26 < dasunt> LOL.
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11:26 < dasunt> My (again, extremely modest house) has Zillow thinking it's double what we paid for it.
11:27 < dasunt> My neighbor is trying to get 1/3rd of a million for a house that's just an average city house.
11:28 <@sasquatc3> well around here zillow is fairly close, recently sold has houses going for their insane amounts
11:29 <@sasquatc3> theres no way thats sustainable, im in a pretty normal middle class neighborhood, but theres no way a midclass could afford the houses in there anymore
11:29 <@sasquatc3> no way in hell i could afford my own house
11:30 < dasunt> Oh, the talk around here is that a "starter" house is between $250k - $350k.
11:32 < dasunt> On the plus side, if heavy gang activity doesn't bother you, there's some great houses for under $1k.
11:32 < dasunt> Er, $100k.
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11:34 < dasunt> LOL, some salesman or woman really likes to use "potential" for run down houses.
11:35 < dasunt> This is going to get flipped quick:  http://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/fsba,fsbo,new_lt/1839461_zpid/any_days/globalrelevanceex_sort/45.004334,-93.273089,44.978354,-93.320682_rect/14_zm/0_mmm/
11:35 < PigBot> Title: 1555 Hillside Ave N, Minneapolis, MN 55411 | MLS #4709451 | Zillow (at www.zillow.com) http://tinyurl.com/h8z9u83
11:36 <@sasquatc3> and there is no way this can be correct, http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3731-S-Uinta-St-Denver-CO-80237/13422665_zpid/
11:36 < PigBot> Title: 3731 S Uinta St, Denver, CO 80237 | Zillow (at www.zillow.com) http://tinyurl.com/jcrvs53
11:37 <@sasquatc3> 6bed/3bath, looks completely remodeled
11:37 < dasunt> Zillow's estimate is insane.
11:37 < dasunt> Or CO is insane.
11:37 <@sasquatc3> co is pretty insane at this point
11:38 <@sasquatc3> buddy of mine finally got an apartment, he had been trying to buy a condo but they were all really high, his rent is ~400-500 more than what i pay for a mortgage
11:38 < dasunt> Gawd.
11:38 <@sasquatc3> and they are just building more and more apts
11:39 <@sasquatc3> but house prices are so high no one can afford to just buy one anymore so they either pay really high rent, or get roommates
11:40 <@sasquatc3> hmm, and trulia lists it as a 3bed/2.5bath, so either zillow is completely wrong, or the flippers tore a bunch of shit out and made 3 new bedrooms
11:58 < dasunt> Flippers gotta fuck things up.
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12:40 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: notlarry passed his phone interview and has an in person interview followed up with lunch with the entire team interview on thursday
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13:04 <@Mirage> Evilpig: with EAI?
13:04 <@Evilpig> yeah
13:05 <@Evilpig> offically  mcit linux, now
13:06 <@Evilpig> so next weekend we could potentially have some celebrating to do
13:26 <@Mirage> Evilpig: will the website be updated in time for the 'con'?
13:27 <@Mirage> I realize that updating the dates and changing from GeekNIC 3.0 to 4.0 is pretty indepth.
13:50 <@rattle> http://phrack.org/issues/69/1.html
13:50 < PigBot> Couldn't snarf url: timed out. http://tinyurl.com/jv7ha54
13:51 < aestetix> rattle: yep. if only there was anything good in it
14:28 < aestetix> wow the GOP is literally splitting in half
14:29 < aestetix> Lindsay Graham just came out against Trump
14:38 <@rattle> popcorn.gif
14:39 <@Mirage> file not found
14:47 <@Mirage> Tatoo Idea:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=cK8p-XkCFo4#t=200
14:47 < PigBot> Title: You Might Be A Redneck If...Part 14 of 14 - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/hslruw2
14:48 <@Evilpig> Mirage: i'll think about it.  I've just not given a shit
14:49 < aestetix> rattle: yeah but the dems are no better
14:49 < aestetix> If I wind up voting for Hillary, it will be because I hate her less than Trump
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14:53 <@Mirage> Evilpig: you should subject Jarvis to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unW7UYXSQNY
14:53 < PigBot> Title: Chinese Chicken Song - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/paeqy3v
14:59 <@Mirage> Wow..Channing Tatum has no shame at all (which based on his role in This is the End should be no surprise): https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=LdfMKnJ1y2o#t=115
14:59 < PigBot> Title: Channing Tatum & Beyonces "Run The World (Girls)" vs. Jenna Dewan-Tatums "Pony" | Lip Sync Battle - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/zmmt27p
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16:49 < dasunt> So I was reading about the Italian dictator during WWII - Mussolini - and I learned his gravesite is visited by Italian fascists.
16:50 < dasunt> Now I'm not saying NeoNazis are good, but at least they can point to the whole Hitler taking over a good chunk of Europe, at least for a little while.
16:50 < dasunt> WTF can you say about Italian fascism?
16:52 < cyberanger> Perhaps it's more about how he handled domestic issues than conquering the world.
16:53 < cyberanger> Same way people root for Clinton and Trump here now, it's not that they've done good, it's that they're percieved as doing good by their supporters
16:53 < dasunt> According to Wikipedia, his economy was far from a success.
16:55 < dasunt> I guess they pulled off invasions of two smaller states.  Technically, Ethiopia had more men in their army, but they also had a grand total of 4 tanks against Italy's hundreds of tanks, FWIW.
16:57 < dasunt> But jebus, Italian fascism was pretty pathetic overall.
17:24 < aestetix> ok wtf
17:24 < aestetix> http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/blog/2016/05/06/disabled-actors-in-hollywood/
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20:31 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: What, you're surprised that other people invent reasons to get mad?
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21:58 <@sasquatc4> mmm, seksi
21:58 <@sasquatc4>  http://www.geforce.com/hardware/10series/geforce-gtx-1080
21:58 < PigBot> Title: GTX 1080 Graphics Card | GeForceGTX 1080 Graphics Card | GeForce (at www.geforce.com) http://tinyurl.com/z7bj8hd
22:02 < _NSAKEY> sasquatc4: I'm waiting for the cards to hit the market to see what the actual differences are betwee the regular and founder editions.
22:02 <@sasquatc4> im not expecting much from the founders, probably just some flashy crap
22:02 <@sasquatc4> i doubt any real hardware difference
22:02 <@sasquatc4> non-founders is 599, 8gb
22:02 < _NSAKEY> ... But right now, it's looking like AMD is dead in the water. They've only been able to warm over the same card arch since 2012 or so.
22:03 < _NSAKEY> There's some concern in hashcat circles about the card being too fat to stack them close together.
22:03 <@sasquatc4> the gtx? or amds?
22:03 < _NSAKEY> The 1080.
22:03 <@sasquatc4> ahh
22:04 <@sasquatc4> well im happy, i only wanted one for the new build, so ~2x perf of a 980 at the same power and less heat, 8gb ram, im good
22:04 < _NSAKEY> Yeah, it's crazy.
22:07 <@sasquatc4> now to just get that new job and have the wedding paid for and done and im there
22:10 <@sasquatc4> i dunno tho, i need to find all the slides
22:11 <@sasquatc4> apparently the 1080 is going to be 380, like the 970, and better performance than the current titanX
22:12 < _NSAKEY> My concerns are two-fold: 1. Will the Linux drivers be any good? 2. Will it handle password cracking well?
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