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00:04 < noetic> hmm
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00:09 < nexus-aosp> RangerZ:  how goes it
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01:51 <@RangerZ> 'good'
01:51 <@RangerZ> ohh wait... he was being nexus-y
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02:54 <@Catonic> whee.
03:03 <@RangerZ> Catonic: did you see my url earlier?
03:03 <@RangerZ> 0.55$/watt solar panels
03:04 <@RangerZ> thought that might give you some sweet dreams
03:04 <@RangerZ> and help you fall back asleep ;)
04:50 <@Catonic> RangerZ: no
04:52 <@Catonic> haven't been keeping up a lot lately, a lot going on besides my insomnia... which thankfully is no longer caused by stimulant use.
04:53 <@Catonic> looks like I missed it. Gave AT&T the shove today, so I came home to a DSL modem with sync but no interbits.
04:54 <@Catonic> $60 a month is too much for 6Mbit/s ADSL.
04:54 <@Catonic> my router lost its damn mind when that happened, so lots of re-establishing of connections, getting the mail flowing, etc.
04:55 <@Catonic> I generally don't follow solar because it lacks the necessary density. Stirling engines at the focus of a parabolic mirror is a better idea, but then you have other problems...
04:55 <@Catonic> safety, targeting, sun-tracking...
04:56 <@Catonic> peak insolation is like 1.1 kW per sq meter, which works out about at 10 sq feet.
04:57 <@Catonic> put that into a target at 2x2 or 1x1 and you'd better have liquid cooling, cause something is gonna boil if you're using aluminum (and why wouldn't you, since it conducts heat so well?)
05:00 <@Catonic> but then you get into energy management, and that's a science unto itself. Convert the rotational force into an electric current with minimal losses, then opportunistically convert that current into something useful.
05:01 <@Catonic> You have two basic options -- either use it as is as 3-phase alternating current at a frequency to be determined by the rotational speed of the alternator, or convert to pseudo-DC with a bridge rectifier just like a car alternator.
05:02 <@Catonic> then you need to cover some ground, so stepping up to high voltage might be useful. High voltage in the alternator means high-voltage insulation and windings, added costs but they may help with MTBF.
05:03 <@Catonic> but any three-phase or brushless motor will work for an alternator, provided the bearings can cope with the wear. Automotive alternators are at least designed with replaceable bearings and/or to take a few Gs of shock loading during operation without drastic failure.
05:04 <@Catonic> plus you can turn the field windings wide open and max absolute maximum power from the alternator, or turn the load down to keep the alternator turning during periods of less sun.
05:04 <@Catonic> I haven't figured out a good way to go 1000 - 2000 ft yet tho. Seems like 1 - 4kV or higher over steel fence wire would work.
05:05 <@Catonic> but then you have a power distribution problem because transformers introduce losses, and switching power supplies don't need to drain the capacitors on the high-side except when pulling power out on the low side.
05:05 <@Catonic> plus you have protection requirements, things to prevent starting fires...
05:06 <@Catonic> and nothing high voltage is cheap or easily available... certainly not diodes, transistors, or capacitors.
05:07 <@Catonic> so yeah, call me old fashioned, but I still consider solar a double-conversion technology rather than going from photon to "diode" to MPPT controller.
05:07 <@Catonic> But we should have MEMS antennas and THz rectifiers by now, anyway. Light is RF, after all.
05:08 <@Catonic> ah, phased array design and alighnment is a bitch. At THz frequencies, the array would be astoundingly large, and exhibit a large amount of gain if composed of traveling-wave elements.
05:10 <@Catonic> It would have to be lots of small arrays and frequent "detection" or rectifier diodes, and some MEMS capacitors or otherwise IC capacitors to smooth the peaks.
05:11 <@Catonic> Why hasn't this problem been solved yet? Oh yeah, you'd need to use X-rays to etch the material.
05:11 <@Catonic> far fucking out. I love physics.
05:12 <@Catonic> also, the killer here is that 90% efficient * 90% efficient = 81% efficient, so you need to get 99.9% or better or losses start adding up.
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07:17 <@Evilpig> god damn the scene is just retarded sometimes
07:17 <@Evilpig> top gear - us edition... officially there are 4 seasons and this is starting the fifth on tv now
07:18 <@Evilpig> these dickbags have split the 4th season into a 4 and 5, calling the new one 6, and a separate faction is now calling the current season 8.
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09:41 <@Mirage> Evilpig: <sarcasm>But the Scene is such a bastion of responsible reporting, how could that even be possible.</sarcasm>
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10:06 <@Evilpig> Mirage: wrong scene, smartass
10:07 <@Mirage> Hey, you're in Nashville bitching about the "scene"...what else am I supposed to assume you mean?
10:07 <@Evilpig> yeah yeah
10:07 <@Evilpig> the pirate scene
10:49 <@RangerZ> Mirage: he was refering to the local bondage scene, they had a pirate themed day, and made him wear the mermaid outfit, apparently they were getting tired of him in his latex pig outfit
11:20 <@RangerZ> but on real topics
11:20 <@RangerZ> http://www.amazon.com/Guide-Gear-Portable-Folding-Hammock/dp/B003DQ2YIY for 42$, this is a really good buy...
11:20 < PigBot> RangerZ: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 20480 bytes.
11:21 <@RangerZ> just got mine in the mail, figured I'd throw it in the office at work, and if I ever felt too tired to drive home, I'd just pull this out and sleep (better than sleeping on the floor)
11:25 <@RangerZ> setup without instructions in like a minute, and was as fomfortable as could be desired
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12:42 < _NSAKEY> Evilpig: Make a note of the group names and never download their releases again.
12:42 < _NSAKEY> I avoid anything packaged by EVOLVE for different but equally unforgivable reasons.
12:43  * opticron is a fan of ettv, rartv, rarbg
12:43 < _NSAKEY> eztv is great.
12:43 < _NSAKEY> EVOLVE frequently has audio problems.
12:43 < _NSAKEY> Either it's not loud enough, or in the case where I swore off their releases forever, they messed up the audio during a pivotal scene in GoT a few years back.
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12:48 <@Evilpig> opticron: ettv is dead 
12:49 <@Evilpig> I typically get rarbg
12:51 <@opticron> erm...I've been getting ettv stuff recently
12:51 <@opticron> new stuff
12:52 <@opticron> when did ettv die?
13:00 <@Evilpig> it isn't from the real eztv but the group that hijacked their domain
13:00 <@Evilpig> they keep putting out shit as ettv but it's just rebranded shit from other groups
13:02 <@Evilpig> nm i'm completely off.  ettv is extratorrent
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13:16 <@RangerZ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaPWjJhOp24
13:16 < PigBot> Title: Dreamworks Animation Reportedly in Talks to Sell to Comcast for $3 Billion - GS News Update - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/gt8dy7j
13:16 <@RangerZ> fuck that news story
13:19 <@RangerZ> Evilpig: also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqKqt-XD1HE
13:19 < PigBot> Title: Nintendo Announces NX Console to Launch March 2017 Worldwide - GS News Update - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/jkdxn99
13:19 <@RangerZ> Zelda Wii U will be on NX too, and is delayed until then also
13:29 <@RangerZ> also Fire Emblem and Animal Crossing are getting mobile games
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13:57 <@Evilpig> but still no details about it
13:58 <@Mirage> Evilpig: ya'll still using nagios?
13:58 <@Evilpig> yeah, looking at other solutions but stupid nagios still does shit
13:59 <@Evilpig> RangerZ: i'm tired of nintendo saying nx this and nx that without saying wtf nx actually is
13:59 <@Evilpig> at one point it was rumored to be a phone, or a gaming service for mobile devices
13:59 <@Mirage> i can't remember..EAI use Fruity/lilac or anything else as a configuration gui?
13:59 <@Evilpig> then it was a replacement 3ds
13:59 <@Evilpig> then it's a replacement for the wii-u
13:59 <@Evilpig> nope
13:59 <@Dolemite> I hear it's a smart dildo
13:59 <@Evilpig> they have a custom deal that's ugh
14:00 <@Mirage> Evilpig: hehe, of course
14:00 <@Evilpig> i've been reworking config files for the last month to clean them up and standardize
14:00 <@Dolemite> Bon soir, motherfuckers!
14:01 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: you best not come back empty handed, cocksucker
14:01 <@Dolemite> I just had a Royale with Cheese
14:01 <@Mirage> We're annoyed at the monitoring group.  Have been threatening to roll our own Nagios to fill in the gaps that Nimsoft is quite capable of doing, but the group doesn't want to support.
14:01 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: French Whores seem to be a bit hard to find around here
14:01 <@Dolemite> However, there are a hell of a lot of redheads
14:02 <@Mirage> Dolemite: so long as they aren't left-handed
14:02 <@Dolemite> Besides, even if cut into pieces, I'm pretty sure I can't fit a whole one in my bag to bring back for you
14:02 <@Evilpig> give her your seat, and you stay put
14:02 <@Evilpig> just play dumb american and catch the next flight. ;)
14:02 <@Dolemite> Ha!
14:03 <@Mirage> Dolemite: lol..Royale w/ Cheese
14:03 <@Dolemite> Monday is going to suck.  18 hours travel on Sunday, get in after 9 PM, then go to work the next day.
14:03 <@Dolemite> Mirage: I kid you not.  Grand Royal Cheese, Sans Oignons
14:03 <@Dolemite> Damn meal cost me $13.50
14:03 <@Dolemite> It's 'spensive over here
14:04 <@rattle> Nagios, the Ford F-150 of monitoring.  Sorta sucks, but gets the job done.
14:04 <@Dolemite> But hey, you can get beer or wine at McDonald's
14:04 <@Mirage> Dolemite: yeah, well..I watched pulp fiction not too long ago
14:05 <@Dolemite> Yep, that was why I had to go there while I'm here
14:05 <@Mirage> rattle: and it'll do anything you want, so long as you can script it yourself
14:05 <@rattle> Dennis Hastert is going to jail for 15 months!  Wheeee!!!
14:06 <@rattle> I wonder how long until there is a futures market for the likelihood of him dying in prison.
14:06 <@Dolemite> Aren't the other inmates a bit old for him?
14:06 <@Dolemite> Or are they letting him serve time in juvi?
14:07 < _NSAKEY> rattle: As he should. The penalties for public officials should be much, much steeper.
14:12 < _NSAKEY> Sadly, it's an automatic 5 year sentence for assaulting some kid fucker like Hastert in federal prison.
14:13 < _NSAKEY> And since he clearly doesn't have the good sense to do the rest of the world a favor and off himself, he'll most likely serve his time uneventfully.
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14:31 <@Mirage> Talked to Raymer last night..he's already got a room reserved and is planning on bringing his girls along for GeekNIC.
14:31 <@Mirage> No harrassment required.  i was shocked.
14:35 <@Mirage> man, I need to pay attention to upcoming concerts better.  The Cure are coming next month and is already sold out.
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14:48 <@Evilpig> that is shocking
14:48 <@Evilpig> I've been on the ball concertwise lately
15:16 <@Mirage> This is tonight...doubt it's sold out.  Cypress Hill 25th Anniversary World Tour
15:27 <@Mirage> Just thought about it...if I were to go it's almost aptly named.  Last time I saw them was in '92.
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16:13 <@Evilpig> my project fi phone is trying to activate
16:16 < aestetix> fucking hell
16:16 < aestetix> that was annoying
16:17 < aestetix> so uh
16:17 < aestetix> anyone wanna gift me an ipad game?
16:17 < aestetix> and I'll paypal you money?
16:24 < aestetix> ok maybe I don't need that
16:24 < dasunt> Did anyone see that supreme court case about the government worker and the political sign?
16:24 <@Evilpig> no and no
16:24 < dasunt> The government worker was seen with a yard sign supporting the challenger.
16:25 < dasunt> The challenger lost.
16:25 < dasunt> But the incumbent fired the worker.
16:25 <@Evilpig> kinda douchey
16:25 < aestetix> ugh
16:25 < _NSAKEY> dasunt: That sort of reminds me of some shit that happened in Smyrna.
16:25 < aestetix> I *hate* dealing with American companies
16:25 < aestetix> for money stuf
16:25 < aestetix> it's horrible
16:25 < _NSAKEY> This 20-something ran against the current mayor, but because he was being backed by one of Smyrna's filthy ex-mayors, the race got disgusting.
16:25 < dasunt> So there's case law on this - political speech is protected speech.  It would be clearly illegal to fire someone for having a yard sign supporting a challenger.
16:26 <@Evilpig> I hate changing devices when you have to deal with a two factor auth solution that won't just transfer over
16:26 < _NSAKEY> Codes employees were going around and taking the current mayor's signs. I know someone who had one of the 20-something kid's signs up for weeks, no problem.
16:26 < dasunt> The guy sued and won.  But then it was appealed on a technicality:  It wasn't the worker's yard sign he was seen with - he was picking it up for his mother.
16:26 < _NSAKEY> He put out one of the mayor's signs, and codes showed up to try to take his sign away within hours.
16:27 < dasunt> So yes, before SCOTUS, we have a case that hinges on if your employer misidentifies your political leanings, can they fire you.
16:27 < _NSAKEY> dasunt: That's kind of scary.
16:27 < aestetix> uh
16:27 <@Evilpig> your view on politics should have no bearing on your job
16:27 < aestetix> dasunt: can't employers fire you anyways?
16:27 <@Evilpig> you can't ask me how I voted
16:27 < aestetix> Evilpig: sure they can
16:28 < aestetix> they just can't fire you if you refuse to answer
16:28 < dasunt> This is a public employee, btw.  Private sector probably gets screwed.
16:30 < dasunt> This would be hillarious if real people weren't involved.
16:31 < dasunt> The lower court and the appeals court both *agreed* that since it was a mistaken interpretion, it wasn't protected.
16:33 < dasunt> Ah, it looks like it was just decided yesterday - SCOTUS disagreed with the lower courts and said it was protected speech.
16:34 < dasunt> Thomas and Alito disagreed, because they are asswipes.
18:14 <@RangerZ> dasunt: I only hope that clinton wins... for SCOTUS appointments
18:14 <@RangerZ> thats it
18:15 <@RangerZ> I don't expect her to actually be very helpful otherwise
18:15 <@RangerZ> that and Thomas and Alito getting into 'car accidents'
18:37 < dasunt> LOL.
18:37 < dasunt> Hmmm, Wikipedia lists the Lusitania having munitions on it as a conspiracy theory.
18:42 <@RangerZ> it also lists Christopher Columbus as being a Knights Templar as one too, despite his father in law being a documented higher up one, and him having changed his signature after marrying his wife to include Templar traits (special ways forms of caligraphy to swirl at the top of certain letters)
18:42 <@RangerZ> let alone his ships having white sails and red crosses
18:43 <@RangerZ> its one of those things... doesn't -really- matter one way or the other on its own, but is likely true, as a wierd tidbit of history...
18:43 <@RangerZ> but is 'cool' to know
18:51 < dasunt> Well, for some reason, on the Lusitania manifest, "butter", "lard" and "cheese" was being sent to the Royal Navy's Weapons Testing Establishment, and they weren't stored in the refridgeration hold.
18:52 <@RangerZ> it took Jimmy Carter in the... what... 90s or 00s to 'out' Isreal on having nuclear weapons
18:53 <@RangerZ> and at the time he was like "well obviousl they have them, its an open secret"
18:53 <@oddball> RangerZ: Nevermind that the Knights Templar was dismantled in the 1300's and the red cross on sails was a common decoration on Spanish ship sails?
18:53 < dasunt> Wasn't there that one Israeli guy that also outed them and got jailed for it?
18:54 <@oddball> yep
18:54 <@RangerZ> oddball: shh, I was having fun
18:54 <@oddball> just checking
18:55 <@RangerZ> Friday the 13th of October 1307
18:55 <@RangerZ> to be exact
18:55 <@oddball> yep
18:55 <@RangerZ> which is where the 'friday the 13th' supersistion comes from
18:59 <@RangerZ> but the carter thing 'is' real
18:59 <@Evilpig> http://nashville.craigslist.org/mob/5559985258.html
18:59 <@RangerZ> apparently it -had- been an 'open secret' internationally that isreal had nukes
18:59 < PigBot> Title: Sprint - Samsung Note 4 - Unlocked - Clean ESN (at nashville.craigslist.org) http://tinyurl.com/zw8vwme
19:00 <@RangerZ> the only people who put 'clean ESN' are those who know it isn't
19:00 <@RangerZ> real people don't even know what that means
19:00 <@oddball> heh
19:00 <@RangerZ> its like saying 'i promise this phone isn't stolen'
19:01 <@RangerZ> or when dasunt just randomly announced to the channel "you know, I'm not wearing women's panties right now"...
19:01 <@Evilpig> I do know what it means
19:01 <@RangerZ> somehow it just wasn't expected, and denying it... just made people suspicitious
19:02 <@Evilpig> crap
19:02 <@Evilpig> 3ds won't see a 64GB microsd
19:02 <@RangerZ> doesn't that depend on the exact sdcard ?
19:02 <@RangerZ> or something like that
19:03 <@Evilpig> nah
19:03 <@Evilpig> just the right format which I didn't do on this apparently
19:04 <@RangerZ> so... the Shin Megami Tensei and Fire Emblem crossover game has about the worst fucking English title ever.... Tokyo Mirage Sessions ♯FE
19:05 <@Evilpig> I think it was set ot exfat.  repartitioning now
19:06 <@RangerZ> yeah, b/c they have their own fucked up format
19:06 <@Evilpig> nope.  just regular fat
19:06 <@Evilpig> nothing fancy.  they're stupid low tech.  lol
19:07 <@RangerZ> ohh.
19:07 <@RangerZ> just their "blocks" terminology then
19:07 <@Evilpig> yeah
19:09 <@Evilpig> last night I got the humble bundle and found out my card was full
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19:19 <@Evilpig> there we go.  plenty of space free now
19:21 <@Evilpig> https://goo.gl/photos/Vgp6DifGSh2UQxAY6
19:21 < PigBot> Evilpig: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 20480 bytes.
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21:05 <@RangerZ> dang it Catonic... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyERtnbRirE
21:05 < PigBot> Title: Melting a Penny with a Fresnel Lens in under 3 seconds - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/zm9lcbw
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23:30 <@RangerZ> Catonic... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyERtnbRirE
23:30 < PigBot> Title: Melting a Penny with a Fresnel Lens in under 3 seconds Sun Solar - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/zm9lcbw
23:54 <@RangerZ> figured you'd enjoy that
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