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03:28 < aestetix> penis
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08:23 < dukh> why is it every Monday feels like an irish coffee kinda day...
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10:30 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and....   er, fuuuuuuck, I have no clue what time it is
10:30 <@Dolemite> transcontinental travel in your 40s is a hell of a lot different from transcontinental travel in your 30s.  lol
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10:49 < aestetix> Dolemite: how is france?
10:49 < aestetix> wait it's not morning
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13:23 < aestetix> https://twitter.com/Reverend_Ducati/status/724664657948995584
14:14 <@Mirage> Dolemite: how was France?   See aestetix while you were there or was he still being a whiny bitch?
14:27 <@Catonic> lol
14:35 <@Mirage> Catonic: gonna make it to GeekNIC this go around?
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15:17 <@Mirage> This work for anyone else?  All I get is a background image that makes me think I need to clean my monitor. http://www1.bigspringlodgeandcabins.com/?kw=cabin+rentals
15:17 < PigBot> Title: bigspringlodgeandcabins.com (at www1.bigspringlodgeandcabins.com) http://tinyurl.com/zuuc7tv
15:18 <@Mirage> Trying to see if they finished the renovations and are renting again so Pig can get a trip planned.  https://www.nps.gov/ozar/planyourvisit/big-spring.htm
15:18 < PigBot> Title: Big Spring - Ozark National Scenic Riverways (U.S. National Park Service) (at www.nps.gov) http://tinyurl.com/ho2cx24
15:34 <@Mirage> Nevermind..apparently my ad blocking squid proxy is doing the job.
15:35 <@dasunt> I wish software wasn't so shitty.
15:36 <@Mirage> I'm slightly disturbed by the fact that the site for the cabins we liked is gone now, though, and the Nat'l Park site still claims it's independently operated.
15:44 <@dasunt> Can we stop dumbing down everything in IT?  It's making my job a complete PITA.
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15:52 <@dasunt> So I'm thinking Windows Update on this system is screwy, so I scanned for security vulnerabilities using Microsoft's tool.
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15:52 <@dasunt> It tells me I'm missing updates.
15:52 <@dasunt> The solution:  Run Windows Update.
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17:24 < aestetix> solution: run linux
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21:19 <@RangerZ> holy fuck... that is one way to clear the sinuses/have a heart attack
21:19 <@RangerZ> VU police sent me an email tonight "about the report that the woman called in last night about the report you made"
21:19 <@RangerZ> then sent me pics of a crunched up SUV in the parking deck
21:19 <@RangerZ> I was like ....WTF....
21:20 <@RangerZ> apparently a VUPD sent an email to the wrong email... there is apparently a VUPD officer with the same name as me... and the email was meant for him...
21:20 <@Evilpig> lol
21:21 <@RangerZ> I was so F'ing confused
21:21 <@RangerZ> so there are at least 3 people on campus with this same name
21:21 <@RangerZ> a police, 1 religious studies prof, and me
21:26 <@Evilpig> my project fi phone will be here wednesday
21:29 <@RangerZ> nice
21:29 <@RangerZ> what did you get ?
21:29 <@RangerZ> nexi 6?
21:32 <@Evilpig> yeah
21:37 <@RangerZ> I still have my Samsung Galaxy S3... and I just can't justify the upgrade cost
21:37 <@RangerZ> i -should- upgrade... I know that...
21:38 <@RangerZ> but 'ugh'
21:39 <@Evilpig> when I did the math I could upgrade and pay the same as i'm paying now, so it was a no brainer
21:40 <@RangerZ> yeah
21:41 <@RangerZ> being poor kinda sucks...
21:41 <@RangerZ> can't wait to graduate and get some real money
21:41 <@RangerZ> at this point.... 50k/yr would feel like 'real' money :/
22:26 <@oddball> Speaking of which, saw an ad for a "junior" database admin that required a laundry list of crets, 6 years of experience this, 4 years in that...
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22:39 <@RangerZ> oddball: there is generally an Sr. Android Developer job in Nashville for 125k
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22:41 <@RangerZ> and it is only going to get worse... since Uber decided to pay out the 100 million settlement rather than have hits employees classified as such
22:41 <@oddball> yep
22:42 <@RangerZ> its*
22:44 <@oddball> Wait... not that it matters, but you can't legally have a full time employee classified as a contract worker in this state.
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22:47 <@oddball> By state law, if the employer sets the hours, at their offices, or expects you to work exclusively for them, then you're an employee, not a contractor and the business can get into some shit.
22:47 <@RangerZ> oddball: I was exagerating most of that
22:47 <@oddball> ah, ok
22:47 <@RangerZ> I haven't even -seen- a tech support job posting
22:48 <@oddball> sad thing is that I could completely believe that posting.  I've seen several like that except for the contracctor bit.
22:48 <@oddball> And I know some business that pulled the contractor BS.
22:48 <@RangerZ> after a headhunter sent me an email asking me about 2 of those 6 figure + jobs... and then I said "no... I'm still in school... for some fucking reason..." I decided my heart couldn't take job adverts
22:49 <@oddball> heh
22:49 <@RangerZ> not like I fully matched what they were looking for anyways... but still... seeing stuff like that hurts
22:49 <@RangerZ> I literally just stopped working that day
22:49 <@RangerZ> went home, and played vidoe games
22:49 <@RangerZ> "nope, I can't today, I'm done"
22:49 <@oddball> understood
22:52 <@RangerZ> oddball: at this point, you'd be better off taking some MOOCs, paying like 400$ for an entire series of them, and becomging a dev, that even has certs to show off
22:52 <@oddball> Yeah... I need to hit up a certs org and get a bunch of them behind me.
22:53 <@RangerZ> an Indian guy got accepted to Vandy ... is the first person from his school to ever get accepted to grad school outside the country... because of the moocs we teach
22:53 <@oddball> huh
22:53 <@RangerZ> (Indian schools are very heirarchical)
22:53 <@RangerZ> he is from a 2nd teir univ.
22:53 <@oddball> yep
22:54 <@RangerZ> he got a summer internship here at vandy and prooved himself, the reason he got the internship is b/c he was in the top 20 apps that Amazon and Google picked out from the finalists in the MoCCA specialization
22:54 <@oddball> Of course, at this rate, it looks like I may get some martial arts trainer certs before I get those tech certs.  Teaching some classes at my school, and the owner is talking about sending me to a couple certification programs.
22:54 <@RangerZ> Amazon and Google were sponsors of prizes and also picked the winners
22:55 <@oddball> huh
22:55 <@RangerZ> MoCCA = Moble Cloud Computing on Android
22:55 <@oddball> ahhh
22:55 <@RangerZ> series of ~5 moocs that focus on advanced android development
22:56 <@oddball> I might also see if Naienko would be interested in those.
22:56 <@RangerZ> we're teaching an intro series right now
22:56 <@oddball> She's never done serious dev work, but has enjoyed making css et al dance.  Much more interested in the back end than making it pretty.
22:56 <@RangerZ> https://www.coursera.org/specializations/android-app-development
22:57 < PigBot> Couldn't snarf url: [Errno 1] _ssl.c:492: error:14077410:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:sslv3 alert handshake failure. http://tinyurl.com/jfzb77g
22:57 <@RangerZ> wow... fail there
22:57 <@RangerZ> 355$
22:57 <@RangerZ> for all 4 courses
22:57 <@oddball> Hell... I think she's fucked around with Java a good bit.
22:58 <@RangerZ> but she doesn't "have to" pay if she doesn't want to...
22:58 <@RangerZ> the assignments -give you- 100% of the unit tests
22:58 <@oddball> heh
22:58 <@RangerZ> the only thing you lose out is quizes, peer-assessments (for code quality/etc) and the certs
22:58  * RangerZ had 'nothing' to do with that
22:59  * RangerZ actually wrote the -entire- framework for assignments
22:59 <@RangerZ> lol
22:59 <@RangerZ> thats basically where my last 2~3 months has gone :/ *cries*
22:59 <@oddball> heh
23:00 <@RangerZ> but this specialization is basically 'intro to java' (that is actually the working title for the first mooc)
23:00 <@RangerZ> then 'intro to android'
23:00 <@RangerZ> and then MoCCA picks up after that
23:00 <@oddball> cool
23:01 <@RangerZ> and the skills she'd have after 'that' would allow her to get a job easily
23:01 <@RangerZ> but most mobile development is actually UI work
23:01 <@RangerZ> so if she has artsy skills, that helps
23:02 <@RangerZ> I make squre boxes that are teal
23:02 <@RangerZ> and call it a day
23:02 <@oddball> heh
23:02 <@RangerZ> ... I'm not even kidding...
23:02 <@oddball> oh, I believe you.
23:02 <@RangerZ> ~2013 the mooc students wanted to kill me
23:02 <@oddball> hehehe
23:03 <@RangerZ> "it was easy to read on my phone"
23:03 <@RangerZ> but the -entire point- of the code I generated, was to NOT use that UI, but to have a 'functionally complete' UI to start with, and then improve
23:04 <@RangerZ> but when I say "you'll have the skills" I mean it... we use these courses in our on-campus lectures
23:04 <@RangerZ> mind you... it would take more practice than 'just' the courses
23:04 <@oddball> Oh you silly person, putting function before form.  Have you not seen modern UI design?
23:05 <@RangerZ> best part of that... was the project I was working on at the time
23:05 <@RangerZ> DARPA project
23:05 <@RangerZ> AMMO
23:05 <@RangerZ> by ISIS
23:06 <@RangerZ> logo was a bullet
23:06 <@oddball> heh
23:06 <@RangerZ> Android Mobile Middleware Objects
23:06 <@oddball> wait... you worked for ISIS?!  TERRARIST! :p
23:07 <@oddball> (sorry, couldn't help myself)
23:08 <@RangerZ> neither could people at grocery stores when we'd wear out branded clothes
23:08 <@RangerZ> ...surprisingly I haven't gotten anymore of that in the past few years....
23:09 <@RangerZ> at Hack TN I remember saying "alright, I'll meet you back at ISIS"
23:09 <@oddball> heh
23:09 <@RangerZ> then stopping and looking around... and saying "you know... I bet that sounds bad... "
23:10 <@RangerZ> thankfully someone knew what it was (other than us grad students)
23:10 <@RangerZ> and laughed
23:15 <@RangerZ> but yeah, if she has any free time, I'd suggest she try to take the courses (if not these, there are others out there too)
23:15 <@RangerZ> UI work has basically all gone to either a CMS of some type (WP, joomla, or drupal, etc) or mobile
23:16 <@oddball> and she knows how to make wordpress dance.
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