--- Log opened Sat Mar 26 00:00:42 2016 02:07 <@RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu75fZrVg6I 02:07 < PigBot> Title: UNCOVERED: FINAL FANTASY XV TEASER - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/jhz2sn2 02:08 <@RangerZ> wtf happened... its almost like SquareEnix pulled its head out of its ass 02:08 <@RangerZ> lol 05:35 < aestetix> things I never thought I would do publicly on twitter 05:36 < aestetix> publicly ripping apart the whole concept of code of conducts for conferences 05:38 <@Shadow404> cygnus on final approach for capture 05:39 <@Shadow404> www.nasa.gov/ntv 05:39 <@Shadow404> just a few minutes from grab 05:46 < aestetix> Shadow404: ho'ws your ass? 07:48 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 07:48 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 08:00 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: zzz] 08:50 -!- rattle [~rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 08:50 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 09:08 <@RangerZ> http://steamed.kotaku.com/ubisoft-steam-sale-bundle-costs-more-than-buying-games-1767116399 09:08 < PigBot> RangerZ: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 20480 bytes. 09:08 <@RangerZ> I'm going to say they just mesed up 09:09 <@RangerZ> because thats not something that even ubisoft (well the 'new' ubisoft of the last 1.5 years or so, as they want to be known as) would do 09:47 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 09:47 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 09:52 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: zzz] 10:03 -!- _NSAKEY [~nsakey@jollyroger.abigisp.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:03 -!- _NSAKEY [~nsakey@jollyroger.abigisp.com] has joined #se2600 10:03 -!- _NSAKEY [~nsakey@jollyroger.abigisp.com] has quit [Client Quit] 10:04 -!- _NSAKEY [~nsakey@jollyroger.abigisp.com] has joined #se2600 10:05 -!- _NSAKEY [~nsakey@jollyroger.abigisp.com] has quit [Client Quit] 10:05 -!- _NSAKEY [~nsakey@jollyroger.abigisp.com] has joined #se2600 10:05 -!- _NSAKEY [~nsakey@jollyroger.abigisp.com] has quit [Client Quit] 10:06 -!- _NSAKEY [~nsakey@jollyroger.abigisp.com] has joined #se2600 10:09 -!- _NSAKEY [~nsakey@jollyroger.abigisp.com] has quit [Client Quit] 10:09 -!- _NSAKEY [~nsakey@jollyroger.abigisp.com] has joined #se2600 10:11 -!- _NSAKEY [~nsakey@jollyroger.abigisp.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:14 -!- _NSAKEY [~nsakey@jollyroger.abigisp.com] has joined #se2600 10:14 -!- _NSAKEY [~nsakey@jollyroger.abigisp.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:16 -!- rattle [~rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:45 -!- _NSAKEY [~nsakey@jollyroger.abigisp.com] has joined #se2600 10:53 -!- _NSAKEY [~nsakey@jollyroger.abigisp.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:57 -!- _NSAKEY [~nsakey@jollyroger.abigisp.com] has joined #se2600 11:06 -!- jaake [~h4ckm3@c-68-52-45-79.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:42 -!- rattle [~rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 11:42 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 11:42 <@rattle> https://supporters.eff.org/join-efa 11:42 < PigBot> Title: Join the EFA | Electronic Frontier Foundation (at supporters.eff.org) http://tinyurl.com/h8r2zy4 11:43 <@rattle> Nashville 2600 should join. You all should discuss at the next board meeting. 11:53 < aestetix> donald trump 11:56 <@rattle> "Donald Trump, the new penis and vagina." 11:58 < aestetix> rattle: at least it's not "daddy" 11:59 < _NSAKEY> rattle: Is it somehow going to put money in the coffers? 11:59 <@rattle> It shouldn't take any out.. 12:00 < _NSAKEY> I hate to sound like Uncle Scrooge, but unless it involves someone giving us money, I'm personally not focusing on it right now. 12:00 <@rattle> Good odds it will at least be a forum that can attract more of the digital activist community to connect up with things related to PhreakNIC. That could be a good thing. 12:00 < aestetix> Do you really want to attract the activist community? 12:01 <@rattle> You need people to volunteer to get anything done, so no reason not to enlarge that pool. 12:01 <@rattle> In this case, I like the aliances principals in terms of who they are trying to attract. 12:01 <@rattle> Much of the activist community are crackpots, but there's a lot of folks on the security side trying to point out important stuff. 12:06 < aestetix> maybe PN could also get a talk from BlackLivesMatter 12:07 <@oddball> I'd have to look into their most recent activities, but the EFF has done some damn good things. 12:08 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: That sounds suspiciously like you're wanting to submit a troll talk proposal. 12:08 < _NSAKEY> oddball: They've continued that track record. 12:08 <@oddball> That was my guess. 12:09 < _NSAKEY> I'm not really opposed to this, but I've got grant stuff I want to get out of the way before trying to take on anything else, especially if that something else isn't going to directly lead to someone giving the organization a check. 12:09 <@oddball> fair enough. 12:30 < aestetix> I totally called it 12:30 < aestetix> https://twitter.com/gliffy/status/713779599268831232 12:30 < PigBot> Title: Gliffy HQ on Twitter: "@aestetix We were using mysqldump to create dumps." (at twitter.com) http://tinyurl.com/hlf3k8p 12:30 < aestetix> No fucking wonder. 12:31 -!- rattle [~rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:31 < _NSAKEY> Yup. I remember you saying that when it happened. 12:31 < aestetix> Yeah if your database is larger than a few hundred gigs, mysqldump is gonna be slow as shit. 12:33 < aestetix> There should have been a point where their sysadmin was like "hmm, this is taking too long, I wonder if there's a faster way to do this" 12:35 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: It's also possible that the sysadmin knew this, but was forbidden from working on it because reasons. 12:35 < aestetix> What possible reason could there be, besides the management being idiots? 12:35 < _NSAKEY> That's all the reason you need, right there. 12:36 < aestetix> Reminds me of a past life, where the CEO was trying to be helpful. He logged into the database to see something, and the motd told him the system needed to be rebooted. 12:36 < aestetix> So he went ahead and rebooted it. The production database. 12:36 -!- rattle [~rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 12:36 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 12:36 < _NSAKEY> Why did the CEO have the capability to login to boxes like that? 12:37 < aestetix> Because he was the original programmer behind the system and insisted on having access to all the systems. 12:38 < _NSAKEY> http://www.theonion.com/article/scientists-slowly-reintroducing-small-group-normal-52632 12:38 < PigBot> Title: Scientists Slowly Reintroducing Small Group Of Normal, Well-Adjusted Humans Into Society - The Onion - America's Finest News Source (at www.theonion.com) http://tinyurl.com/jqylbbk 12:38 < aestetix> But yeah. If gliffy had a slave running, I could have had their system back online within an hour. 12:38 < aestetix> Instead I get to laugh at them from afar. 12:39 < aestetix> The issue is that mysqldump runs in serial. There *are* ways to get it to run in parallel, but it's hackish. 12:39 < aestetix> It's much better to just do a binary copy 12:40 < aestetix> There's also the issue where after it loads all the data into a table, it has to create the indexes. 12:40 < aestetix> And if someone is using mysqldump for a massive databsae, they probably have a shitload of useless indexes 12:58 -!- jaake [~h4ckm3@c-68-52-45-79.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 13:03 -!- jaake [~h4ckm3@c-68-52-45-79.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:00 -!- jaake [~h4ckm3@c-68-52-45-79.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 15:58 <@Evilpig> well fuck. 15:59 <@Evilpig> my grandmother's laptop will do ssh traffic fine, I can ftp to my server just fine. everything else seems hosed 15:59 <@Evilpig> google will eventually load after timing out several times. I've cleared the cache, looked for mystery proxies, etc 16:02 < aestetix> Evilpig: delete the porn 16:04 <@Evilpig> sob 16:04 <@Evilpig> it was dropbox soehow 16:05 < aestetix> .... dropbox? 16:05 <@Evilpig> killed dropbox and shit is working again. 16:05 < aestetix> Did dropbox control DNS or something? 16:05 <@Evilpig> no. stuff was resolving. it was almost like my tcp sessions were etting broken or something 16:06 <@Evilpig> it makes no damn sense 16:06 < aestetix> Also, your grandma uses dropbox? 16:06 <@Evilpig> yes 16:06 <@Evilpig> she syncs pictures between her laptop and desktop 16:07 <@Evilpig> for being an old bitch, she isn't horrible with tecchnology unless it doesnt' work 16:09 <@Evilpig> since this is working i'm getting the fuck out of dodge. later 16:23 < aestetix> oh wow 16:23 < aestetix> https://www.reddit.com/r/vim/comments/4b9hg5/weekly_vim_tips_and_tricks_thread_2/d17ec71 16:23 < aestetix> best vim trick ever 16:23 < PigBot> Title: ronakg comments on Weekly Vim tips and tricks thread! #2 (at www.reddit.com) http://tinyurl.com/h5zzajm 16:27 -!- CRasH180 [~Kevin@173-16-26-105.client.mchsi.com] has joined #se2600 16:27 -!- CRasH180 [~Kevin@173-16-26-105.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Changing host] 16:27 -!- CRasH180 [~Kevin@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 16:27 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 16:28 -!- CRasH180 [~Kevin@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has quit [Client Quit] 16:30 -!- CRasH180 [~Kevin@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 16:30 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 16:32 -!- NoFault [~NoFault@c-174-49-14-188.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 16:45 -!- CRasH180 [~Kevin@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:01 <@Dagmar> /window balance 17:39 <@RangerZ> Dagmar: youmisseda key there orsomething 17:41 <@RangerZ> so... This _really_ shouldn't be this big of a deal... but apparently wanting to upload a file via HTTP from gradle is too far 17:41 <@RangerZ> one step too far... 17:41 <@RangerZ> and those 'rock stars' out there who have it working, don't feel like sharing (or at least not being 'well isn't it obvious' about it) 17:42 <@RangerZ> HTTP POST* 18:10 < aestetix> so, here's a question for those familiar with Windows 18:10 < aestetix> Why is the registry considered useful? Why not just have a directory like /etc? 18:14 <@RangerZ> who said it is useful? 18:14 <@RangerZ> not that I could tell you if I heard, but even MSFT hates the fucking thing 18:14 < aestetix> lol 18:14 < aestetix> It's just.... 18:15 <@RangerZ> but its been there for so long that changing it at all would fuck with so much backwards compat 18:15 < aestetix> fair enough 18:15 < aestetix> It seems that powershell basically removes the need for it 18:15 < aestetix> since it introduces amazing new things like grep 18:15 <@oddball> "this is the way it's always been done." 18:15 <@RangerZ> and honestly its not 'that' big of a deal to deal with... if you know what you are doing 18:15 <@RangerZ> AND 18:15 <@RangerZ> you have to rely upon everyone else to behave too 18:16 < aestetix> I was watching a malware video on windows stuff 18:16 < aestetix> and all these amazing tools like Process Explorer, look like ps 18:16 <@RangerZ> my summer internship at Berkley was actually writing a spyware-like program to act like SpyBot's 'Tea-Timer' for registry entries 18:16 <@RangerZ> we were able to intercept ANY program's access of the registry and apply filters to it 18:17 <@RangerZ> so we could randomize 'unique' and 'identifiable' strings in the registery for a single application's accesses 18:18 <@RangerZ> basically its a 'fight fire with fire' approach 18:18 <@RangerZ> but ALL of that is pointless 18:18 <@RangerZ> windows still allows programs to have direct memory access to other programs 18:19 <@RangerZ> you have to be a 'driver' to do it... 18:19 <@RangerZ> but basically that means just paying the 5k for a key or not even bothering an everyone still gives it permissions anyways 18:20 <@RangerZ> Linux's file permissions are a good start to improve things 18:21 <@RangerZ> but you need to give each program its own user/group ID and then have some kind of manager to handle IPC between processes 18:21 <@RangerZ> .... ohh wait... 18:21 <@RangerZ> the binder framework is already in the linux kernel 18:21 <@RangerZ> and android contributed that upstream... because that is exactly what it is 18:28 <@RangerZ> the problem is... that 'managers' like that is what lead to systemD 18:29 <@RangerZ> and systemD as a concept isnt 'horrible', I just think that the binary logs is asking for trouble 18:44 <@Dagmar> ...or you can just use selinux 18:49 <@Dagmar> It's cool how I've called Comcast twice now to have the SB6141 removed from my account and neither rep did it 18:49 <@Dagmar> I'm going to start calling them over and over on Monday about it 19:04 -!- Catonic [~catonic@adsl-74-240-65-36.bhm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:58 -!- rattle [~rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:58 <@Evilpig> damn. my fan has been rattling the last few weeks and I took it apart tonight to find out why 19:59 <@Evilpig> the blades are all cracked to hell and back 19:59 <@Evilpig> they were barely still in one piece. i've glued them back together but I have a feeling I shoudl take it back off and make some better supports for it 20:02 -!- RangerZ [~RangerZ@c-98-211-46-34.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:09 < _NSAKEY> Evilpig: Or, just break down and buy a new fan. 20:15 -!- RangerZ [~RangerZ@c-98-211-46-34.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 20:16 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o RangerZ] by ChanServ 20:55 <@Evilpig> but the motor on this one is perfectly good 21:09 -!- Catonic [~catonic@adsl-98-83-42-251.bhm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 21:09 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Catonic] by ChanServ 21:18 -!- northrup [~northrup@c-98-193-186-149.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 21:18 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o northrup] by ChanServ 21:35 <@RangerZ> Evilpig: you trying to sell(or buy) another truck? 21:35 <@RangerZ> also... fuck being so tired I can't even fall asleep 21:37 <@RangerZ> https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/03/26/harvard-team-disqualified-from-heroes-dorm-video-game-competition-for-cheating/JzdvQp3eTl7Enh1HcFFQhI/story.html 21:37 < PigBot> Title: Harvard team disqualified from Heroes of the Dorm video game competition for cheating - The Boston GlobeHarvard team disqualified from Heroes of the Dorm video game competition for cheating - The Boston Globe (at www.bostonglobe.com) http://tinyurl.com/jlyeobj 21:37 <@RangerZ> he had a pro player play his character for a while 21:37 <@RangerZ> ....which does _absolutely nothing_ in Heroes of the Storm 21:37 <@RangerZ> other than maybe qualify him for the tourny 21:38 <@RangerZ> but thats fucking stupid.... if you can't hang... you just can't hang 21:41 <@RangerZ> and they are going to Harvard, they should have learned that you can't steal 75k 21:41 <@RangerZ> you'll get caught and be punished 21:41 <@RangerZ> you need to steam a LOT MORE 21:42 <@RangerZ> and make it so that the economy will collapse if you fail 21:42 <@RangerZ> -that- is how you steal money and get away with it 22:39 -!- northrup [~northrup@c-98-193-186-149.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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