--- Log opened Tue Mar 15 00:00:56 2016
00:07 <@RangerZ> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Seymour [Radeon HD 6400M/7400M Series]
00:08 <@RangerZ> its a 6400~something
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00:22 <@Dagmar> Euw... Radeon
00:57 <@RangerZ> http://techcrunch.com/2016/03/14/lyft-gm-express-drive/
00:58 <@RangerZ> anyone who thinks they will still be driving cars in 20 years is kidding themselvs except for leasure-sport
02:14 <@RangerZ> jesus... I just posted that I was writing a new wordpress plugin and widget... and got over 600 unique visitors
02:33 < aestetix> RangerZ: 14.04
03:09 < aestetix> ok I think that fixed it
03:09 < aestetix> god wtf is wrong with ubuntu
03:16 <@RangerZ> aestetix: you want a chronological list? alaphbetical? Topological? or perhaps a word buble? also descending or ascending ?
03:19 < aestetix> I think I have fixed the major issues I was having
03:19 < aestetix> But wow.
03:20 < aestetix> I cannot in good faith recommend this distro to non-technical users
03:23 < aestetix> RangerZ: case in point, in order to fix my wifi, I had to remove a kernel module and reload it with a new setting.
03:23 < aestetix> Someone who barely can use bash is not going to be able to do that.
05:08 < aestetix> interesting
05:08 < aestetix> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil%27s_advocate#Origin
05:08 < PigBot> Title: Devil's advocate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) http://tinyurl.com/gl6mbdk
05:08 < aestetix> Turns out the term Devil's advocate originated with the Catholic Church
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10:29 <@Evilpig> asshole doctors.  I want to claw my fucking arm off now
10:48 <@oddball> aestetix: makes sense, since I believe that's where the idea of the Devil originated.
11:02 < aestetix> oddball: I'm actually not sure where the devil comes from, now that I think about it.
11:02 <@oddball> It's not the Bible.
11:02 < aestetix> I wonder if it was monotheised the same way Zeus turned into God
11:04 <@oddball> I thought it was more Egyptian than Roman.
11:04 < aestetix> Well, both.
11:04 < aestetix> The Romans took a lot of things from the egyptians.
11:04 <@oddball> right
11:05 < aestetix> For example, one intresting theory I saw was that Moses's name comes from Ramses
11:05 < aestetix> because "ramses" -> rmses -> mses -> moses
11:05 <@oddball> And the Jews had a rather srious connection to Egyption culture around the time that they went monotheistic.
11:05 < aestetix> and no, I did not mean to deify RMS :p
11:06 < aestetix> well yes
11:06 < aestetix> the whole wandering the desert thing
11:06 <@oddball> yep
11:06 < aestetix> One of the reasons I'm so tired of these "new atheists" is that they don't know those basic stories.
11:07 < aestetix> I am totally down with you not believing in anything, but at least fucking learn what it is you are disavowing.
11:07 <@oddball> Are those the evangelical atheists?
11:07 < aestetix> Yes. The Hitchens/Dawkins crowd.
11:07 < aestetix> Dawkins in particular has a rather facile understand of theology.
11:07 <@oddball> 'cause I want to punch those people in the face just as much as I want to punch the evangelical Christians, etc.
11:08 < aestetix> yep
11:11 < aestetix> oddball: the bay area is full of them.
11:11 <@oddball> Not surprised.
11:11 < aestetix> I dunno if they were abused as kids or something, but they have an axe to grind.
11:11 < aestetix> It's fucking annoying.
11:11 <@oddball> They've just turned atheism into a religion... including the hatred of other religions.
11:11 < aestetix> And I don't mean by priests, because I am starting to really suspect the numbers re: catholic priest abuse are loaded.
11:12 < aestetix> Since I know a lot of people who were raised Catholic (many wound up in the bay), and none of them were abused.
11:12 < aestetix> So I wonder where this hatred comes from.
11:15 <@oddball> The thing I have issue with the Catholic Priest molestation thing is that it's well documented that the church was complicit in covering it up.  They paid hush money, moved offenders around to keep them from getting arrested, and even were behind smuggling a few out of the country.
11:16 <@oddball> If it was any other organization, the org would be declared a conspirator.
11:16 < aestetix> oddball: let me put it this way
11:17 < aestetix> I know a lot of women who have been abused. I have never met *anyone* abused by a catholic priest.
11:17 <@oddball> understood.
11:17 < aestetix> I mean, sure, maybe they just don't tell me, but then why are the women so open?
11:17 < aestetix> I'm also curious why there are no reports of abuse from other churches. Surely it's not just a catholic thing, if it's a thing?
11:18 < aestetix> It's just, when you look at the narrative with a scientific analysis, it falls apart.
11:18 <@oddball> Partly because the cases have typically been boys.  1. folks tend not to talk about it when they're children, and 2. men are basically told that it makes them not men.
11:19 < aestetix> But if I say anything, I get called a catholic apologist. When I'm really not, I am just interested in fact/truth.
11:19 <@oddball> Oh, it very much happens at other churches.
11:19 < aestetix> Then why doesn't that make the news?
11:19 <@oddball> It has around here.
11:20 < aestetix> Interesting.
11:20 < aestetix> I never hear jokes about Lutheran priests, etc.
11:20 <@oddball> I think a large part of why it doesn't make bigger news is that they're not part of a powerful international org that has done its best to cover it up.
11:21 < aestetix> heh
11:21 < aestetix> Covering things up never works. Just ask Nixon.
11:21 <@oddball> I think the lack of jokes might have something to do with other orgs allowing their clergy to have sexual partners.
11:21 < aestetix> Some do, certainly.
11:21 < aestetix> But not all.
11:22 <@oddball> And then some things just get into society's memory and just won't let go.
11:23 <@oddball> How many people make fun of or even really remember the brakes not fucking working on Toyotas a couple years ago?
11:24 <@oddball> Now, on the other hand, you have the Ford Pinto that everyone remembers as "the car that explodes" even though Ford won that case and it was found that the Pinto wasn't any more at risk than any other compact car on the road at that time?
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15:34 <@rattle> DC is shutting down the entire metro system for 24 hours at midnight.  That's gonna be a shitshow of galactic proportions.
15:35 <@Evilpig> I'm sure there's a really good reason, so what are they claiming?
15:35 <@Dagmar> Alien infestation.
15:37 <@Mirage> I love these stupid cybersquatters.. Q:  "What are your intentions for thetinyhippo.com which is for sale?" R: "I don't own it, but apparently you do and want to sell it.  By the way, welcome to my spam list."
15:43 <@Evilpig> that's a business model that I can't begin to understand how it ever makes money
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16:06 <@Dagmar> Holy crap.  Sausage Party.  LOL
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18:22 < aestetix> aaaan Trump has a big early lead in Florida
18:52 <@RangerZ> aestetix: FL and OH 'early leads' don't matter
18:52 <@RangerZ> because of the nature of the cities vs rural
18:54 <@RangerZ> but... 399$ for the PSVR (Playstation VR) and it comes out in October, and there are 35~40 million systems out there that can use that headset
18:55 <@RangerZ> which is 1) cheaper than Oculus and HTC and 2) more systems that can acutally use them properly, so that's  "interesting"
18:57 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: Are you implying that we'll be able to use VR to get away from the shitty reality of Herr Donald taking over?
18:58  * RangerZ can only hope so
19:07 <@RangerZ> _NSAKEY: actually I think VR (and AR) are going to be big in gaming (eventually)
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20:14 <@RangerZ> so Trump and Clinton are likely going to be nominees now
20:21 <@RangerZ> Two Billionaires (Clintons have raised over 3 billion dollars in 'donations' in the 41 years they have been running for office) (including the clinton foundation)
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