--- Log opened Mon Mar 14 00:00:54 2016 00:04 -!- draake [~h4ckm3@c-68-52-45-79.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:00 -!- draake [~h4ckm3@c-68-52-45-79.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 01:05 -!- draake [~h4ckm3@c-68-52-45-79.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:01 -!- draake [~h4ckm3@c-68-52-45-79.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 02:02 <@RangerZ> https://twitter.com/Boogie2988/status/709266745890983937 02:02 <@RangerZ> so apparently a fair amount of people are having windows 7/8/8.1 upgrade to windows 10, without them realizing it 02:03 <@Dagmar> Yep 02:04 <@Dagmar> THey can still downgrade 02:05 <@Dagmar> ...and that'll happen if you leave it set to install recommended upgrades automatically. 02:05 <@Dagmar> Most of these people should _leave_ it at 10. 02:06 <@Dagmar> One of the things I'm seeing as useful to them is that if you get your machine all eaten up with malware... as long as it will still _boot_ (and if you have made bootable install media, you're still good to go)... 02:06 <@Dagmar> ...you can tell the damn thing to just fuckin' wipe everything back to a clean installation state, optionally attempting to keep files and programs 02:06 -!- draake [~h4ckm3@c-68-52-45-79.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:07 <@Dagmar> It seems to be making a 450mb hidden partition just for this 02:07 <@RangerZ> Dagmar: I would agree with you if it wasn't for the spyware built into Win 10 02:07 <@Dagmar> I've had no problems disabling all that 02:07 <@RangerZ> fucking sending -every keystroke- by default to MSFT is fucking bullshit 02:08 <@RangerZ> and neither have _I_, but apparently they were turning that stuff -back on- in security patches 02:08 <@RangerZ> they said they have stopped that 02:08 <@Dagmar> Yep 02:08 <@RangerZ> but its still fucked up behavior 02:08 <@Dagmar> and the all-keystrokes thing was not a big deal. It's for spellcorrection 02:08 <@RangerZ> where is Dagmar , b/c obviously someone else is at his keyboard 02:09 <@Dagmar> It's literally _the_ first setting 02:09 <@RangerZ> -if- you know to even look for it 02:09 <@Dagmar> I would have a problem were it not for the fact that in certain configurations Google does the exact same thing 02:09 <@Dagmar> ...and I have hopes that Microsoft will make as productive a use of that information as Google does 02:09 < _NSAKEY> So because Google does it, it's fine? 02:10 -!- brimston3 [~brimstone@noranti.in.the.narro.ws] has joined #se2600 02:10 <@Dagmar> Yeah because we know what Google is doing with it, and you can turn it ofgf 02:10 <@Dagmar> Install 10 on something, even a VM. Go look at the thing 02:10 <@Dagmar> For once it's actually not hard to find shit 02:11 <@Dagmar> I'm actually finding it easier to run stuff in 10 because I don't have to fuck with the menus at all 02:11 <@Dagmar> Most of the time when I'm launching programs, I use "run" box on the taskbar 02:12 <@Dagmar> ...and if you type "privacy" in that thing, Privacy Settings comes up all by itself 02:12 <@RangerZ> my point is that 1) it shouldn't be fucking stealthy about the upgrade 2) it shouldn't have these things on by default 02:12 <@Dagmar> I can't really bash Microsoft when they're actually trying to do the right thing 02:13 <@Dagmar> It's not stealthy 02:13 <@RangerZ> Defaulting to upgradeing -security patches- sure, but -versions of OS- is a different matter 02:13 <@RangerZ> and 'because you can roll back' is not a good excuse 02:13 <@RangerZ> 'you can give back the jewlery you stole' too 02:14 <@Dagmar> It won't do it if people haven't already told it to install _recommended_ patches as well as security patches 02:14 <@Dagmar> If someone's machine is set to only get security patches through WU, they'll won't have what happened to Boogie happen to the 02:14 <@Dagmar> m 02:14 <@Dagmar> Keep in mind how many of these fuckers are just running on a lick and a prayer 02:15 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: @brimstone, @dasunt, @Feltenix, @eryc 02:15 -!- eryc [~eric@internetjanitor.com] has joined #se2600 02:15 -!- eryc [~eric@internetjanitor.com] has quit [Changing host] 02:15 -!- eryc [~eric@unaffiliated/internetjanitor] has joined #se2600 02:15 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o eryc] by ChanServ 02:15 <@Dagmar> Also keep in mind that W7 SP1 is basically _knackered_ on a clean install right now 02:16 -!- Netsplit over, joins: @Feltenix, @dasunt 02:16 <@Dagmar> In most cases you'll be lucky to have Windows Update even pretend to work unless you have >4Gb of RAM 02:16 <@Dagmar> I think Microsoft is sort of tacitly admitting that parts of Win7 are in flames and it's time to run away 03:01 -!- draake [~h4ckm3@c-68-52-45-79.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 03:06 -!- draake [~h4ckm3@c-68-52-45-79.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:17 <@RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsjZ2r9Ygzw 03:17 < PigBot> Title: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Encryption (HBO) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/hl4t3zh 03:17 <@RangerZ> [Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Encryption (HBO)] 03:17 <@RangerZ> he did a pretty good job 03:18 <@RangerZ> not as stong on the 'weak encryption hurts us all', but still, not bad 04:02 -!- draake [~h4ckm3@c-68-52-45-79.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 04:07 -!- draake [~h4ckm3@c-68-52-45-79.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:39 < aestetix> well 04:39 < aestetix> RangerZ: the big issue with this debate is that everyone thinks they are right 04:39 < aestetix> and uncompromisingly so 05:03 -!- draake [~h4ckm3@c-68-52-45-79.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 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Mar 14 07:45:18 2016 --- Log opened Mon Mar 14 07:45:26 2016 07:45 -!- Evilpig [~wilpig@wilpig.org] has joined #se2600 07:45 -!- Irssi: #se2600: Total of 39 nicks [18 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 21 normal] 07:45 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Evilpig] by ChanServ 07:45 -!- Irssi: Join to #se2600 was synced in 14 secs 07:47 <@Evilpig> yay comcast 07:52 -!- draake is now known as jaake --- Log closed Mon Mar 14 08:00:50 2016 --- Log opened Mon Mar 14 08:00:57 2016 08:00 -!- Evilpig [~wilpig@wilpig.org] has joined #se2600 08:00 -!- Irssi: #se2600: Total of 39 nicks [18 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 21 normal] 08:00 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Evilpig] by ChanServ 08:01 -!- Irssi: Join to #se2600 was synced in 13 secs 08:02 <@Evilpig> *ding* *ding* *ding* round 2 08:52 -!- jb7od_ [~jb7od@unaffiliated/jb7od] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:52 -!- crashcartpro [uid29931@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lkyrgsaqhyfxytcg] has joined #se2600 09:08 -!- jaake [~h4ckm3@129.59.122.17] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:23 -!- nlevay [041c8581@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 09:23 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o nlevay] by ChanServ 09:31 <@klixa> Evilpig: whats your issue with comcast now 09:31 <@Evilpig> they still suck? 09:32 <@klixa> ok 09:36 -!- jaake [~h4ckm3@129.59.122.17] has joined #se2600 09:40 < aestetix> where is Dolemite 09:40 < aestetix> I want my hu 09:40 < aestetix> hug 09:44 <@Evilpig> in vegas 09:45 < aestetix> does his family know? 09:46 <@Evilpig> yes 09:46 < aestetix> and they are ok with it? 09:46 <@Evilpig> they better be, since they are there too 09:46 < aestetix> oh wow 09:47 < aestetix> even the children? 09:48 < aestetix> you know what happens in vegas, right? 09:48 <@Evilpig> conventions 09:49 < aestetix> that too 09:51 < aestetix> Evilpig: has he had the talk with his kids yet? 10:02 -!- jb7od [~jb7od@unaffiliated/jb7od] has joined #se2600 10:02 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o jb7od] by ChanServ 10:08 < aestetix> another friend of mine just sent me a note that he's leaving the bay area 10:08 < aestetix> there is apparently a mass emigration 10:25 -!- NoFault [~NoFault@c-174-49-14-188.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 10:25 < aestetix> A scaling problem every company has to deal with: toilets. 10:31 -!- nlevay [041c8581@tor/regular/rattle] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] --- Log closed Mon Mar 14 10:40:44 2016 --- Log opened Mon Mar 14 10:40:53 2016 10:40 -!- Evilpig [~wilpig@wilpig.org] has joined #se2600 10:40 -!- Irssi: #se2600: Total of 40 nicks [18 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 22 normal] 10:40 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Evilpig] by ChanServ 10:40 -!- Irssi: Join to #se2600 was synced in 12 secs 10:41 -!- Shadow404 [~shadow404@wilpig.org] has joined #se2600 10:41 <@Evilpig> round 3: time to call and yell 10:41 <@Evilpig> also. https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/4a9cbx/150000_in_student_loan_debt_how_do_i_tackle_this/ 10:42 < PigBot> Title: $150,000 in student loan debt, how do I tackle this? : personalfinance (at www.reddit.com) http://tinyurl.com/j6s3odg 10:42 <@Evilpig> $200k in debt asking what to do about it. undergrad in Behavioral Neuroscience masters in Entomology 10:42 <@RangerZ> http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2450868/wdlabs-launches-new-raspberry-pi-drive-with-314gb-storage 10:42 < PigBot> Title: WDLabs launches new Raspberry Pi drive with 314GB storage- The Inquirer (at www.theinquirer.net) http://tinyurl.com/z5sb2dx 10:43 <@Evilpig> dumbshit racked up 200k in debt to study why insects do shit and wonders why he's only making 40k a year. I'm surprised he's making that much 10:43 <@RangerZ> he moves out of the country 10:43 <@RangerZ> since student load debt is the only private debt that I'm aware of that you can -never- get rid of otherwise 10:44 <@RangerZ> which needs to be changed back to the way it was before bush, to allow it to be wiped with bankruptcy 10:44 <@Evilpig> or teach students not to rack up ridiculous debt on stupid pursuits 10:45 <@Evilpig> on another note. a crazy person is coming to campus next week. http://news.vanderbilt.edu/2016/03/activist-who-took-down-confederate-flag-will-speak-at-vanderbilt/?utm_source=myvupreview&utm_medium=myvu_email&utm_campaign=myvupreview-2016-03-14 10:45 < PigBot> Title: Activist who took down Confederate flag will speak at Vanderbilt | News | Vanderbilt University (at news.vanderbilt.edu) http://tinyurl.com/znyetuq 10:46 < aestetix> RangerZ: yep 10:46 < aestetix> RangerZ: I stopped paying my student loans when I moved to Germany 10:46 < aestetix> and the US can't do shit 10:46 <@RangerZ> 314 GB HDD for $31.42 10:46 <@RangerZ> I think WD is taking this a little too far 10:47 < aestetix> Evilpig: or teach employers not to require bachelors degrees 10:47 <@Evilpig> it doesn't cost $150k to get a bachelors degree 10:48 <@RangerZ> at a private university it does, vandy is 45k/yr thats actually more than 150k for a bachelors 10:49 <@Evilpig> but if your goal is a degree to get a job it doesn't hav eto be from vandy 10:49 <@RangerZ> but still, thats not a 'good investment' for a lot of reasons 10:49 <@Evilpig> this is going back to the high schools not teaching actual life skills anymore 10:50 < aestetix> that is true 10:50 <@Evilpig> I had to learn to balance a checkbook in high school and part of that was understanding what a budget is and how to live within means 10:50 <@Evilpig> that might have been middle school even 10:50 <@RangerZ> want to see nvidia fucking rage next week? http://techfrag.com/2016/03/14/new-multi-gpu-tool-in-the-works-that-allows-you-to-mix-different-gen-amd-nvidia-cards/ 10:52 <@RangerZ> hell, I had a full econ class, where we learned how to trade stocks, etc. 10:53 <@opticron> ugh...it's dx12-specific 10:53 <@RangerZ> opticron: for now, but that'll change with vulkan support, b/c it does basically the exact same thing as dx12 10:54 <@RangerZ> and that already has *nix support 10:54 -!- jaake [~h4ckm3@129.59.122.17] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:54 <@opticron> I think my middle school home ec class had check book balancing along with all the cooking and sewing stuff 10:54 <@opticron> that's when I vowed to never have checks 10:55 <@opticron> the delay involved makes things suck 10:56 <@RangerZ> people hire accountants not because it is -hard- but because it is annoying 10:56 <@RangerZ> lol 10:56 <@Evilpig> opticron: the delay isn't bad. you just work off the amount as if the checks have cleared. done. 10:58 < aestetix> wtf 10:58 < aestetix> "I have over $150,000 worth of private student loans that end up costing me $1,400/month in payments, of which only $300/month goes toward the principle loan amount" 10:58 < aestetix> how i that possible 10:58 <@RangerZ> easy, those loans are all private 10:58 <@RangerZ> and non-defered 10:59 < aestetix> what does the 1100 a month go to 10:59 <@Evilpig> interest 10:59 <@RangerZ> the interest, that they have already accured, and that they are expected to incur. my saving grace is that my loans are almost all defered loans 10:59 < aestetix> that is fucked up 10:59 <@Evilpig> and to get numbers like that he's probably got multiple loans 10:59 <@RangerZ> which means I don't have any interest while still in school 11:00 < aestetix> so basically 11:00 < aestetix> student loans are the new credit cards 11:00 <@RangerZ> he obviously has private loans which are even above the 6.6% that fed. student loans are(were?) at , and they incur intrest from day 1 11:00 <@RangerZ> aestetix: US has more student loan debt than CC debt 11:01 < aestetix> RangerZ: I've told germans how things arein the US, they don't believe me 11:02 <@RangerZ> of course they don't, they know you 11:02 <@RangerZ> you aren't a trustworthy source of information 11:02 < aestetix> lol 11:02 < aestetix> sure I am 11:02 < aestetix> btw, have you met my brother, Elvis Presley? 11:03 <@RangerZ> just beause you and snowden are now hanging out a lot online together doesn't mean anything 11:03 < aestetix> I'm safe. anarchival is acting as my legal counsel in that domain 11:03 * RangerZ steps back as german intel. now has fun looking at your life 11:04 <@RangerZ> (more than it was already) 11:08 < aestetix> but uh 11:08 < aestetix> what jobs can you get in the US without a college degree? 11:11 < aestetix> 11:12 <@opticron> jobs that need trade skills 11:13 <@Evilpig> jobs with companies that realize experience is better than a degree 11:14 < aestetix> Evilpig: sure, given that my first "technical" job was data entry at a trucking depo... 11:16 <@opticron> yeah...I was doing data entry at my first job for 3 months before they realized I could code and then turned me into a super cheap coder (16 at the time making $7/hr) 11:20 < aestetix> so one question 11:21 < aestetix> where did these private loan companies come from? IIRC 20-30 years ago you didn't go to harvard unless you could afford it or got a scholarship 11:21 < aestetix> or any expensive school 11:22 -!- jaake [~h4ckm3@129.59.122.17] has joined #se2600 11:28 <@oddball> Oh no, they existed 20-30 years ago. 11:30 <@oddball> 2 big things right now: 1. college loans are exempt from bankrupcy because they're known to be generally high risk loans (also known as "we know that most of the folks taking these loans will have a hell of a time paying them back"), and 2. the price of college has been increasing far beyond inflation since the 70's. 11:31 < aestetix> ok so 11:31 < aestetix> if young people have all this debt, then why do they have money to move to cities and drive the cities prices up too? 11:32 <@oddball> honestly? They don't. They just have access to lots of credit. 11:33 < aestetix> Won't that lead to another market crash in a few years? 11:33 <@oddball> Example: folks think that Naienko and I are crazy because we don't believe in car payments. 11:34 <@oddball> yep 11:34 <@oddball> It's a huge part of what caused the last crash. 11:34 < aestetix> oddball: in the US everyone called me insane because I've never had a credit card 11:34 < aestetix> but I refuse to play in a rigged system 11:34 <@oddball> I didn't until I was 26 and was tired of being treated worse than criminals. 11:34 < aestetix> lol 11:35 <@oddball> So, I now have one that I don't use. 11:35 < aestetix> like trying to book a hotel room 11:35 < aestetix> you show up and they demand a credit card for deposit 11:35 <@oddball> Fortunately, most places now take a debit card. 11:35 < aestetix> I always just say I don't have one, and it's so unusual they just say ok 11:35 < aestetix> fuck that. I'm not authorizing them to steal money from me 11:35 <@oddball> heh 11:36 < aestetix> it's just like going to places that ask to see an id 11:36 < aestetix> if they ask "can I see your id?" if it's not something obvious like beer, I say no 11:36 < aestetix> it's fun watching them try to figure out how to handle that 11:36 <@oddball> And yeah... at the time, I had a friend that literally couldn't have a checking account because he had overdrafted too many times at too many banks... and he got treated better than I did with no credit score. 11:37 <@oddball> I can't think of any time I've been asked for ID other than alcohol (because law) or "we want to make sure that you're the person that bought this thing." 11:38 < aestetix> oddball: a number of conferences 11:38 < aestetix> I showed up to I think the box.com conference in san francisco 11:38 < aestetix> they asked for ID, I told them no 11:38 <@oddball> If it's prereg, it's "we want to make sure you're the guy that pay for the thing." 11:38 < aestetix> they had no idea what to do. I had a printout of the confirmation email for other reasons, so I showed them that 11:39 <@oddball> Also, I go to cons that include free booze. That requires ID to make sure I'm 21. 11:39 < aestetix> oddball: it was a free event 11:39 <@oddball> ah 11:39 < aestetix> also, who the hell is going to go to a conference and give a fake name 11:39 < aestetix> I mean, what are the chances it would be correct 11:39 < aestetix> The ID thing is a solution looking for a problem 11:40 <@oddball> Clearly, you hadn't heard of "not Dagmar" at PN this year who went up to registration several times to see how many prereg badges he could make off with. 11:41 < aestetix> lol 11:41 <@oddball> Grab a program, find someone on a panel that isn't an A-lister, and there you go. 11:41 <@opticron> *good dagmar 11:42 <@oddball> We probably should have thrown him out on Friday when he tried that shit. 11:44 < aestetix> oddball: so you email tickets to the event, and require everyone to have it printed out 11:44 < aestetix> or have it on a phone or something 11:44 < aestetix> there is this amazing technology called a barcode 11:45 <@oddball> Yeah, Dagmar is working on something for this year. 11:45 <@oddball> Although, most people are cool with that photo ID that most folks carry in their back pocket. :p 11:45 < aestetix> the box.com conference did the barcode thing, and they still wantd to see ID 11:45 < aestetix> at least they were not fascist like dragoncon 11:45 <@oddball> heh 11:46 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@2601:282:700:3df1:56c:ac07:b681:6c8d] has joined #se2600 11:46 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sasquatc4] by ChanServ 11:46 <@oddball> Yeah, I'm a lot more laid back about that sort of thing, but I have to agree about the Dragoncon badges. If you're going to print your legal name larger than your "badge name," why bother with a badge name? 11:47 < aestetix> Dragoncon doesn't need your legal name to begin with 11:48 <@oddball> I've been to a few cons that have also started printing up your legal name on your badge, but it's in something like 10pt font, while you badge name is significantly larger. 11:48 < aestetix> why? 11:48 < aestetix> besides being fascist 11:49 <@oddball> To make sure that the guy that dropped the money for the badge is the guy that got the badge. 11:49 < aestetix> why not take the easy route 11:49 < aestetix> "you are responsible for your badge" 11:49 <@oddball> That is the easy route. 11:49 < aestetix> no it isn't 11:49 < aestetix> the easy route is, once the badge leaves the reg desk, it's no longer our responsibility 11:49 <@oddball> I meant when you pick up your badge. 11:49 < aestetix> how about this 11:50 < aestetix> when you register, pick some keyword 11:50 < aestetix> like "monkey" 11:50 < aestetix> then at the desk, they ask for your keyword 11:50 < aestetix> done 11:50 <@oddball> Yeah... that's not the easy route. 11:50 <@oddball> I'd continue the conversation, but I've gotta head out. 11:50 <@Dagmar> I'm glad the rest of the world is catching up to what I said about this phone unlocking debacle weeks ago 11:50 < aestetix> lol 11:51 <@Dagmar> i.e., that what they really wanted was Apple to write a firmware for them that they could steal 11:51 < aestetix> oddball: it's really not that hard. you have a blank that you need to fill. instead of asking for an ID, you ask for a keyword. 11:51 < aestetix> it's actually basically the same thing, minus the fascism 11:53 < aestetix> It is literally the concept of a shared secret 11:53 <@Dagmar> People pick shitty secrets 11:53 <@Dagmar> ...and you're one of the people who would pick something as common as fuckin' "monkey" 11:54 <@Dagmar> ...and then there's going to be the people who would pick unpronounceable or homophonic secrets 11:55 < aestetix> so tell them to write it down and bring it 11:55 <@Dagmar> https://pn20.pwnz.org/testing.pdf 11:55 < PigBot> Dagmar: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 20480 bytes. 12:02 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: what is that pdf of? 12:03 <@Dagmar> Is it not loading for you? 12:04 <@Evilpig> just didn't click it 12:04 <@Evilpig> dealing with a pegasus is dumb problem 12:04 <@Dagmar> It's a test ticket for PN 12:04 <@Dagmar> I might have hit a size limit because the fucker doesn't want to load in Chrome for me right now 12:05 <@Dagmar> I am considering dropping the resolution of the human-readable part down to 300dpi from 600dpi 12:06 <@Evilpig> paging isn't working for a particular group and it involves me running something like this to trigger an alert. 12:06 <@Evilpig> dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/NagiosAlertTest bs=1M count=2000 12:23 < aestetix> penis 12:33 -!- jaake [~h4ckm3@129.59.122.17] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:45 -!- jaake [~h4ckm3@129.59.122.17] has joined #se2600 13:16 -!- rattle [041c8581@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 13:16 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 13:22 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@2601:282:700:3df1:56c:ac07:b681:6c8d] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:23 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@2601:282:700:3df1:56c:ac07:b681:6c8d] has joined #se2600 13:23 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sasquatc4] by ChanServ 13:24 <@sasquatc4> nice, hexchat update adds win notifications 15:20 -!- jaake [~h4ckm3@129.59.122.17] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:44 -!- Catonic [~catonic@adsl-98-83-44-212.bhm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:54 -!- rattle [041c8581@tor/regular/rattle] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:25 <@RangerZ> yay... lectured a class today, and didn't sound like a moron... 17:26 <@RangerZ> I tend to be very engaging with the audience... and that falls flat most of the time when teaching :/ 17:41 <@RangerZ> https://www.playstation.com/en-us/network/vue/#5 17:41 < PigBot> Title: PlayStationVue PlayStationNetwork (at www.playstation.com) http://tinyurl.com/j5sf8ek 17:42 <@RangerZ> 30$ for 55+ channels 17:42 <@RangerZ> 35$ for 70+ channels 17:42 <@RangerZ> and 45$ for 100+ channels 17:43 <@RangerZ> apparently they -want- to kill comcast 17:45 <@RangerZ> and honestly... I can't see anything worth while in the mor than 30$ (other than sports) 17:46 <@RangerZ> http://blog.us.playstation.com/2016/03/14/playstation-vue-goes-nationwide-starting-at-29-99-in-new-markets/ 17:46 < PigBot> Title: PlayStation Vue Goes Nationwide, Starting at $29.99 in New Markets PlayStation.Blog (at blog.us.playstation.com) http://tinyurl.com/z2e8wy2 17:49 -!- Catonic [~catonic@adsl-98-83-44-212.bhm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 17:49 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Catonic] by ChanServ 17:51 <@sasquatc4> well phone interview finished, now to wait for the notification of an in person hopefully 17:53 <@RangerZ> sasquatc4: I have good news and bad news 17:53 <@RangerZ> good news, you'll get the job 17:53 < aestetix> bad news, it's working for me 17:53 <@RangerZ> bad news, you'll end up at vandy within 2 years 17:53 <@sasquatc4> oh dear god 17:54 <@sasquatc4> hah, well its a good thing im not anywhere near nashville anymore 17:54 <@RangerZ> fuck.. I just wanted to scare him... not give him a mental breakdown 17:54 <@RangerZ> sasquatc4: 'anymore' doesn't mean 'not again in the future' 17:54 < aestetix> your first task on the job: secure this windows server 17:54 <@RangerZ> just look at how both Dagmar and Evilpig got sucked back 17:55 < aestetix> wait I thought Dagmar got a better job 17:55 <@sasquatc4> well im also not in IT, might be sorta hard to find a job there 17:55 < aestetix> evidence is that he's not complaining in here all the time 17:56 <@RangerZ> sasquatc4: what do you mean? Of course they need someone to take care of the million plus rats they have in the engineering building now 17:56 <@sasquatc4> hehe 17:56 <@RangerZ> how else will they do all the medical experiments on them 17:56 < aestetix> RangerZ: you know, if they cleaned up the cumrags every now and then they wouldn't have as many rats 17:57 <@RangerZ> I'm not even kidding 17:57 <@RangerZ> they have a giant floor dedicated to it, where they have a 'dial-a-rat' interface, where you can select what type of genetic makeup of the rat you are looking for 17:59 <@RangerZ> it might not be a million, but there is 10s of thousands or 100s of thousands, at least 17:59 <@sasquatc4> damn, thats pretty cool 17:59 <@RangerZ> for obvious reasons... I stay away from there 18:01 <@Evilpig> vandy does have some weird specimin labs for sure 18:02 < aestetix> jesus 18:02 < aestetix> http://sfist.com/2016/03/10/apartment_sadness_truly_sad_sleeper.php 18:02 < PigBot> Title: Apartment Sadness: Truly Sad Sleeper Van Going For $800/Month: SFist (at sfist.com) http://tinyurl.com/hqwqm3f 18:03 <@RangerZ> my rent for a 1000sq.ft. 2 bath apartment is less than that 18:04 <@RangerZ> even after water fee 18:07 <@RangerZ> opticron: http://venturebeat.com/2016/03/13/stardocks-newest-innovation-will-let-you-mix-amd-and-nvidia-video-cards-in-one-pc/ 18:07 <@RangerZ> apparently they will be presenting it at GDC 18:07 <@RangerZ> speaking of GDC, is Elonka going to GDC this year? 18:10 <@RangerZ> or has she moved away to boston and left _NSAKEY with having to run nashville2600? 18:25 <@RangerZ> aestetix: there is another town hall tonight with the dems 18:25 <@RangerZ> chris mathews is basically licking hilary's feet 18:26 <@RangerZ> and I'm -sure- his wife having the same set of super donors as her... has NOTHING to do with that... and I'm sure he's going to be 'just as fair' to sanders 18:46 <@RangerZ> http://www.destructoid.com/vr-has-a-serious-issue-in-the-real-world-348038.phtml 18:46 < PigBot> RangerZ: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 20480 bytes. 18:46 <@RangerZ> I think the Vive VR approach of having full room (10x10) experience is not likely to catch on, but I see seated exerpiences with PSVR being very popular 18:47 <@RangerZ> will be interesting to see in a couple of years, where things have gone, plus today AMD announced a completely all-in-one VR/AR headset 18:47 <@RangerZ> no wires plugged into a computer 18:48 <@RangerZ> I be the fucking battery life on it is like 14 minutes.... but hey... 18:52 <@RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOXTc3gz5Cc 18:52 < PigBot> Title: Sulon Q VR/AR headset powered by AMD - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/huosgl5 18:55 < aestetix> Elonka moved to Boston? :/ 18:58 <@RangerZ> not yet 18:58 <@RangerZ> but she is going to -have- to move if she wants to get back into the game scene 18:58 <@RangerZ> okay... https://vimeo.com/158922156 18:58 < PigBot> Title: SULON Magic Beans Demo on Vimeo (at vimeo.com) http://tinyurl.com/hjevk44 18:58 <@RangerZ> I could see how -that- would just _fuck_ with you in VR 18:59 < aestetix> That sucks. 18:59 < aestetix> Mostly for PhreakNIC 18:59 < aestetix> How is it that with so many gamers they can't make a game studio there? 19:11 <@RangerZ> game studios only exist in SF, LA, and Austin basically 19:11 <@RangerZ> same with games' media existing almost exclusively in SF 19:14 <@RangerZ> boston/NY to some degree too I guess, but not really as much 19:15 <@RangerZ> Toronto and Quebec have studios, but those are mainly centered around Ubisoft which were founded there 19:36 -!- LastChild [~Android@DHCP-129-59-122-53.n1.vanderbilt.edu] has joined #se2600 20:02 < aestetix> wow ubuntu has turned into shit 20:03 < aestetix> spent the last hour trying to figure out why my display keeps crashing 20:23 <@Evilpig> accoring to fb elonka is in SF 21:54 <@RangerZ> aestetix: 15.10 ? 21:54 <@RangerZ> because I've had the same issues this last week or so 21:54 <@RangerZ> apparently it has to do (for me) with display drivers 22:07 <@RangerZ> so I want to clip out the end of this video... because I'm pretty sure everyone in this room agrees with this ending sentimet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjViSG2ifPQ&t=561 22:07 < PigBot> Title: MSNBC Democratic Town Hall | The Young Turks Summary - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/hp538mt 22:29 -!- ladymerlin [ladymerlin@mail.bbis.us] has joined #se2600 22:29 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ladymerlin] by ChanServ 22:44 <@RangerZ> https://www.ksl.com/?sid=38871640&nid=148 22:44 < PigBot> Title: Pornography declared 'public health crisis'; Elder Holland calls it an 'infectious, fatal epidemic' | KSL.com (at www.ksl.com) http://tinyurl.com/gmgyo5p 22:57 <@RangerZ> 'Elder Holland of the LDS' 22:59 <@Dagmar> nVidia driver? 23:01 <@RangerZ> amd, but I think it had more to do with ubuntu's crap than AMD's since I have an ancient card in this laptop 23:07 <@Dagmar> Well, I've been holding off on driver updates because apparently one from a week or two ago is fucking thing sup 23:21 <@RangerZ> nvidia had a driver that was causing infinite reboots or something last week or 2 weeks ago 23:22 <@RangerZ> but that was on windows 23:22 <@RangerZ> not sure about linux 23:40 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: Are you using fglrx? 23:42 <@RangerZ> i actaully tried all 3 default solutions in ubuntu and even downloaded amd's direct solution 23:43 <@RangerZ> and all of them have VLC fucked up 23:43 <@RangerZ> and until I moved to AMD's direct driver version I was having issues with the system taking 100% to render... nautilus 23:55 < _NSAKEY> That's what you get for not just using nvidia cards on linux. 23:56 < _NSAKEY> They're objectively better at Linux support than AMD. 23:56 <@RangerZ> this is a laptop 23:59 <@Dagmar> What's the video chipset --- Log closed Tue Mar 15 00:00:56 2016