--- Log opened Sun Mar 13 00:00:36 2016
--- Day changed Sun Mar 13 2016
00:00 <@RangerZ> ohh yeah... don't forget... DST now
04:50 <@Evilpig> yeah I just had to adjust a check
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07:46 <@Mirage> Evilpig: you up?
07:48 <@Mirage> Evilpig: nevermind..
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11:51 <@Evilpig> Mirage: the answer is i've been up and down
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14:19 <@oddball> fucking NES
14:21 <@oddball> The multiple outages today have actually drained my battery backups.
14:30 < aestetix>  your NES has a battery backup?
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14:52 <@oddball> NES is our electric company.
15:07 < aestetix> ok so
15:07 < aestetix> anyone good with ubuntu 14.04?
15:08 <@opticron> someone probably is
15:09 <@oddball> With the number of linux geeks in here, I'm guessing you should be more specific.
15:11 < aestetix> actually
15:11 < aestetix> two questions now
15:11 < aestetix> 1. with upstart, how do you restart a service with a hyphen in its name
15:11 < aestetix> like "network-manager"
15:11 < aestetix> initctl restart network-manager gives an error
15:11 < aestetix> 2. any reason why my wifi would die and reconnect every like 5 minutes?
15:12 < aestetix> I'm concluding that ubuntu is shit and should not be run as a desktop os
15:17 <@oddball> Ah, yeah... I think Dagmar has fought with network-manager a good bit.
15:20 <@oddball> so... "sudo service network-manager restart" doesn't work anymore?
15:24 < aestetix> oh
15:24 < aestetix> so you have to use service, and not initctl?
15:24 < aestetix> what happens if service doesn't work for some reason?
15:25 <@oddball> That is what the first google search hit told me?
15:26 <@oddball> Then you use google to trouble shoot?
15:26 < aestetix> Or I just stick with init.d :)
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15:30 <@rattle> I'm going back to Kali, Kali, Kali..  I'm going back to Kali.  Na, I don't think so..
15:31 < aestetix> rattle: we all know you are married to Windows 10
15:33 < aestetix> https://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/4a7pcd/alphago_loses_4th_match_to_lee_sedol/
15:33 < PigBot> Title: AlphaGo loses 4th match to Lee Sedol : Futurology (at www.reddit.com) http://tinyurl.com/jchpmht
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17:12 <@RangerZ> oddball: thankfully I haven't noticed any outages from NES here, so it might be very localized
17:12 <@RangerZ> you got any construction going on around you?
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17:23 < aestetix> time to see if I finally fixed my wifi issue
17:24 <@RangerZ> aestetix: sorry, you won't be able to fix it with all the migrants in the country
17:25 <@RangerZ> at least that was what I was told when I visited a german site earlier today
17:25 < aestetix> I think the issue was caused by wireless N
17:25 <@RangerZ> hehe
17:25 < aestetix> but we'll see
17:28 <@RangerZ> will be intersting to see how german elections went
17:33 < aestetix> fuck me that might have fixed it
17:33 < aestetix> I will be so happy if I have no more internet issues
17:33 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtnqAH-jDeU
17:33 < PigBot> Title: DONALD TRUMP SIMULATOR! - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/go6nj3z
17:39 < aestetix> RangerZ: I learned a word today you'll appreciate
17:39 < aestetix> "the regressive left"
17:45 <@RangerZ> aestetix: ohh i'm all 'aware' of it
17:46 <@RangerZ> its a term made up by athiests who want to stoke racist sentiment, but 'think' they are being more "un-pc" about it
17:46 < aestetix> How is it racist and non-pc?
17:46 < aestetix> It seems very accurate to me.
17:47 <@RangerZ> yeah, I've watched this shit-storm evolve
17:47 <@RangerZ> 1min.
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17:52 <@RangerZ> first of all, its racists in its -result-, not necessarily its intention, so I'm not saying these people are all racists, just that it ends up with that result by demeaning minorities.
17:52 <@RangerZ> secondly, it makes the claim that "islam is the motherload of all bad ideas" , and personally I can't find a difference between being killed by a christian extremist for going to a women's health clinic and being killed by a muslim extremist for going to a women's health clinic
17:52 <@RangerZ> next, it is -strategically- a bad arguement, even if you ARE a militant athiest, because you are giving power to right wing christian extremist talking points and -now- politicians. (Trump, the people in Germany, etc.)
17:52 <@RangerZ> let alone, the fact that it doesn't do anything 'pro-active' to fix the solution, it only says "you must call these people out"
17:53 <@RangerZ> and Sam Harris, the head of this little movement (he didn't coin the term, but he's the figure head of using it) is a fucking moron neo-con who just so happens be an atheist
17:54 <@RangerZ> I'm sorry, but no 'liberal' says that we should torture to get information. Torture is only used when you want to get false confessions
17:55 <@RangerZ> I'm sorry... But I'm with Shepard Smith on this one (someone i'm rarely agreeing with) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/22/shepard-smith-torture_n_190350.html
17:56 < PigBot> RangerZ: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 20480 bytes.
17:56 <@RangerZ> [Shepard Smith Uncensored: "We Are America, We Do Not F**king Torture!" (VIDEO)]
17:58 <@RangerZ> and then... Harris, he (to his credit he is a -marketing genious-) says "you don't understand me, and you are taking me out of context"
17:58 <@RangerZ> and then tells people to go to -his- site where he will explain it all
17:59 <@RangerZ> him and several others are nothing but 'sounds-liberal'-versions of glen beck/trump/etc., who purposely cause a stir someplace and then walk it back and then tell you to visit 'their site' where they will explain all.
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18:04 <@RangerZ> and honestly, 'regressive' doesn't even -start- to explain the problems with 'the left' 1) there has barely been a left in the US since the 1950s 2) "cronie capitolistism" (aka capitolism in its natural state when not limited by government) is a bigger issue than "being PC" 3) its a fucking -bad- idea to align yourself/your talking points with right-wing religious conservatives of one religion to bash another
18:04 <@RangerZ> set of right-wing religious conservatives
18:05 <@RangerZ> because all you do is empower the first set of right-wing religious conservatives
18:07 <@RangerZ> and aestetix I'm sure you haven't looked into it much yet if you just heard about the term, but you're smart enough to realize that despite it being a catchy phrase (just like "bernie bro's") it actually doesn't accomplish much other than short term mental masterbation
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19:03 <@RangerZ> to bring it back from rants... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6W3US8Luo8
19:03 < PigBot> Title: Removing Socks with a Rocket Launcher - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/jkdefcg
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20:26 <@Dagmar>  /window balance
20:26 <@Dagmar> Oh jesus
20:26 <@Dagmar> WTF terminal mode is this thing using
20:29 <@Dagmar> Hmm
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22:46 <@RangerZ> god... netflix catalog oline now a days sucks more than I realized
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22:57 <@RangerZ> guesss the studiosare doing all they can to kill it off
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23:40 <@RangerZ> dugh... because 'that' is what I want to have to deal with.... xorg taking 100 CPU for _no_ obvious reason :/
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