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10:03 <@RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dzy8-fcFXQE
10:03 < PigBot> Title: Lewis Black: The Baby Boomers Gave the Millennials a New Drug. Technology. - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/ze3y8v2
10:12 <@RangerZ> Dagmar: you'll appreciate that, might not 'agree', but you'll appreciate it
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11:21 < aestetix> http://www.pcgamesn.com/samsungs-new-ssd-has-a-ridiculous-15tb-capacity
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12:48 <@RangerZ> aestetix: did you see CES? they are already going to 8k screens
12:49 <@RangerZ> and HDR http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinions/hdr-tv-high-dynamic-television-explained
12:49 < PigBot> Title: HDR TV: What is it and should you care? (at www.trustedreviews.com) http://tinyurl.com/gss9hlm
12:49 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: How hard did you laugh at the story about oculus not supporting macs because the GPUs sucked?
12:50 <@RangerZ> yeah, that was pretty good
12:50 < _NSAKEY> Is there even a purpose for buying underclocked workstation GPUs?
12:50 < _NSAKEY> The gamer cards are always better and don't cost as much.
12:50 <@RangerZ> and as far as I can tell, HDR is basically (must have min. brightness and I think 10bit (16 bit?) color
12:50 <@RangerZ> yes
12:51 <@RangerZ> when your math actually maters
12:51 <@RangerZ> hence the entire firepro lineup
12:51 <@RangerZ> it has ECC ram, etc.
12:51 < _NSAKEY> What do they do that's so special?
12:51 < _NSAKEY> I've never owned one.
12:51 < _NSAKEY> But ECC isn't all that expensive compared to non-ECC.
12:52 <@RangerZ> no, but they have a MUCH more TIGHT process around them, which focuses on drivers a lot
12:52 < _NSAKEY> I can understand the underclocking if the cards are going to be pushed to 100% 24/7/365 and the workload speed won't suffer too deeply.
12:52 <@RangerZ> also, there is other differences, such as chipsets and more double precision vs single , etc.
12:53 <@RangerZ> I haven't looked at the -specifics- in like 10 years, when I was taking my comp. arch class... lol
12:53 <@RangerZ> but basically... more stable/reliable
12:54 <@RangerZ> and that matters when you are rendering pixar films, or doing calculations on how thin a wing on a 747 can be
12:54 <@RangerZ> etc.
12:54 < _NSAKEY> If it's something being used for planes or whatever, ok.
12:54 < _NSAKEY> I don't give a shit about pixar films.
12:55 <@RangerZ> guess disney won't be hiring you for IT then
12:55  * RangerZ shrugs
12:55 < _NSAKEY> You haven't heard?
12:56 < _NSAKEY> Ignore the uploader: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoGPtApzjv4
12:56 < PigBot> Title: Disney Employee Replaced By Foreign Workers Breaks Down In Tears Before Senate - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/z9l68wf
12:56 < _NSAKEY> Disney wouldn't hire Americans anyway, so I'm automatically disqualified.
13:04 <@RangerZ> no, they would hire  you for a bit, then tell you to be a trainer before being laid off
13:10 <@sasquatc3> and yea, hdr is just 10bit, were starting to work on it at work, but theres like nothing available that supports it
13:11 <@sasquatc3> the brief tests some of our systems guys have done hasnt been too positive either, since all the content that is 10bit, when you enable it just looks cartoony like early usages of HDR
13:15 <@RangerZ> sasquatc3: anime has been encoded in 10bit for a while now
13:15 <@RangerZ> but its 10bit h264
13:16 <@RangerZ> so I don't know how the artifacting would look on a display that high end
13:16 <@sasquatc3> well anime is probably fine since its already a cartoon, they were testing with live video content
13:17 <@RangerZ> yeah, just giving a datapoint, and that it 'is cartoon', lol
13:17 <@RangerZ> I think it might just be a failure of expectations, like how soap operas have 'that look'
13:17 <@sasquatc3> yea
13:18 <@RangerZ> 30 FPS, 48 FPS and 60 FPS have the same 'problem'
13:19 <@sasquatc3> 30 doesnt usually bother me, but 48+ does, i needs my motion blur
13:20 < aestetix> Thank god i live in a country where this is not legally possible.
13:25 <@RangerZ> huh?
13:25 <@RangerZ> 48 FPS?
13:25 < aestetix> o
13:25 < aestetix> no
13:25 <@RangerZ> or being hired to train your replacement?
13:25 < aestetix> replacing all your workings with h1b
13:25 < aestetix> yeah
13:25 < aestetix> there are very strong employee protections here
13:25 <@RangerZ> don't worry, Merkel actually talked about copying h1b
13:25 <@RangerZ> to 'help solve the migrant issue'
13:26 < aestetix> Yeah, everyone is totally trusting her judgement right now.
13:26 <@RangerZ> that way the workers could live outside germany
13:26 <@RangerZ> my question was... WHERE outside germany
13:26 <@RangerZ> lol
13:27 <@RangerZ> if Syria didn't look like a scene from Elysium, maybe they wouldn't have to flee it
13:30 < aestetix> Incidentally, replacing all your workers with foreigners is a security risk.
13:31 < aestetix> You're giving all these random people passwords and access.
14:10 <@RangerZ> wheres the fun if you don't do that?
16:23 <@RangerZ> fucking neighbor just lied to my face
16:23 <@RangerZ> their dog has been barking for hours
16:23 <@RangerZ> I went over there and told them that "I just wanted to let you know that we have a bunch of crazy people here, so I don't want the calling the cops on you"
16:23  * RangerZ was debating on calling the cops myself
16:26 <@RangerZ> but "being the nice neighbor, who just warned them" accomplished the goal, of getting them to bring the dog in, made them aware that 'some people' would call the cops, and
16:26  * RangerZ not the 'bad guy'
16:31 <@RangerZ> aestetix: your link https://imgur.com/LKHal0e
16:31 < PigBot> Title: "EU Schengen Area as of March 2016 [1106 x 898]" by Qahlel in MapPorn - Imgur (at imgur.com) http://tinyurl.com/hepc6fk
16:32 <@RangerZ> iceland was the only nation to put bankers who cheated on trial, norway is just norway, and switzerland is still a corrupt banking state founded by former knights templars (the real ones who escaped Friday the 13th) lol
16:33 <@RangerZ> lesson of this story... EU is a great experiment... but unless it has a real central bank and a central body that can pass laws... its going to fall apart when weak links feel like it is in their best interst
16:34 <@RangerZ> IE: Greece/GB/Spain/etc
16:41 < aestetix> RangerZ: indeed
16:42 < aestetix> RangerZ: although Iceland apparently has a slew of issues....
16:42 < aestetix> I'm friends with an Icelandic MP who is constantly complaining about it
16:42 <@RangerZ> yeah ~50% of the population believes in the 'little people'
16:42 <@RangerZ> http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2015/mar/25/iceland-construction-respect-elves-or-else
16:42 < PigBot> Title: In Iceland, ‘respect the elves – or else’ | Art and design | The Guardian (at www.theguardian.com) http://tinyurl.com/qygnkze
16:43 <@RangerZ> thank god that neither of us live in a nation with people who believe in, and more importantly make political decisions based on sky gods
16:43 < aestetix> uh
16:43 <@RangerZ> hehe
16:43 < aestetix> That may change if Ted Cruz is elected ;)
16:44 <@RangerZ> we already have that
16:44 <@RangerZ> both of us
16:44 < aestetix> Also, rip Nancy Reagan
16:44 < aestetix> the women who brought in a presidential astrologer when Ron was too senile to make decisions
16:45 < aestetix> RangerZ: of course, the inverse is true
16:45 < aestetix> the US would be awful with a militant atheist like Dawkins in charge
16:45 <@RangerZ> nah
16:45 <@RangerZ> we should at least have it once in a while
16:46 <@RangerZ> give perspective
16:46 < aestetix> since Dawkins is a fundamentalist atheist
16:46 < aestetix> Just as bad as a fundamentalist christian IMHO
16:47 <@RangerZ> only in 'west'
16:47 <@RangerZ> 'right now'
16:47 <@RangerZ> many more fundy religious home-grown terroritsts than ahtiest ones
16:48 <@RangerZ> just look at bundy ranch
16:48 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: I think the worst thing about having a fundamentalist atheist as president is that the backlash from crazy conservatives would be worse than when Obama got elected as president.
16:48 <@RangerZ> I'd say fundamentalist 'libertarians' are actually the worst domestic threat we have have right now
16:48 <@RangerZ> _NSAKEY: nah
16:48 < aestetix> RangerZ: you mean like Peter Thiel?
16:49 <@RangerZ> I don't get your point
16:49 < aestetix> Peter Thiel is a fundamentalist libertarian.
16:49 < aestetix> I fucking hate him.
16:49 <@RangerZ> him, Koch brothers
16:49 <@RangerZ> etc
16:49 < aestetix> yep
16:50 < aestetix> well they aren't libertarians
16:50 < aestetix> they want to BE the government
16:50 <@RangerZ> he ran on the presidential ticket as a liberian...
16:50 < aestetix> a true libertarian wants to just be left alone. they want to control everything
16:50 <@RangerZ> aestetix: and that fundamentally doesn't work with ideas such as 'the commons'
16:50 <@RangerZ> or 'social contracts'
16:50 < aestetix> ye[p
16:50 <@RangerZ> or 'common sense'
16:50 <@RangerZ> hehe
16:51 < aestetix> it's an aborted interpretation of Ayn Rand
16:51 <@RangerZ> which was my point I wasn't able to get to yet... that most of these people don't REALLY beleive what they are saying
16:51 <@RangerZ> they only believe it as far as it gets them things
16:51 < aestetix> ..... welcome to politics
16:51 <@RangerZ> ie: less taxes, free land to graze cattle
16:52 <@RangerZ> no regulations on polution centric companies
16:52 < aestetix> I don't think the issue is taxes, but what tax money is spent on
16:52 < aestetix> and who collects
16:52 <@RangerZ> not really even that
16:52 <@RangerZ> the problem right now is that we got rid of earmarks
16:52 <@RangerZ> so therefore there is NO incentive to actually make deals
16:53 <@RangerZ> It actually makes sense for MY politician to try and bring money back to MY part of the country
16:53 <@RangerZ> sure there is issues like NASA being in like 8 of the most conservative states because that way it prevents 'nasa being closed', etc.
16:54 <@RangerZ> which leads to single digit (and small at that) overhead for distributed workforce, etc.
16:54 <@RangerZ> but it provides resiliance b/c of geo-diversity (IE a single fire/explosion won't destroy nasa)
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17:04 < aestetix> man
17:04 < aestetix> vimgolf is hard
17:17 <@RangerZ> fuck that
17:17 <@RangerZ> mario golf for the NES for life
17:17 <@RangerZ> well it was just 'golf' then, but still
17:18 < aestetix> god so sick of hearing this black lives matters crap
17:18 < aestetix> need to update my twitter filter
17:18 < aestetix> it ONLY comes from bay area SJWs
17:24 <@RangerZ> cause a lot of BLM in non-super rich coastal cities actually are working to improve things
17:24 <@RangerZ> I know this about cbus and clev at least
17:24 < aestetix> by improve do you mean breaking things and shutting down highways?
17:25 <@RangerZ> no
17:25 <@RangerZ> I mean reforming the police depts
17:25 <@RangerZ> and some other things
17:25  * RangerZ I haven't paid 'too much' attention to it
17:25 < aestetix> so specific things
17:25 < aestetix> and not just general "kill whitey" crap
17:25 <@RangerZ> that 'kill whitey' crap I don't think is really real, just a few loud asshats
17:26 <@RangerZ> same as 'bernie bros'
17:26 < aestetix> wtf is a bernie brpo
17:26 < aestetix> bro
17:26 <@RangerZ> its the attack that "shillaries" are using against males backing bernie
17:26 < aestetix> hahaha
17:26 <@RangerZ> (thats the other term)
17:27 <@RangerZ> joan walsh, one of the co-creators of the daily show, she is one of the big backers of this notion
17:27 <@RangerZ> as is the daily beast
17:27 < aestetix> both of which are rags
17:28 < aestetix> daily show was only good because of jon stewart
17:28 <@RangerZ> the fact that the company that owns the daily beast has chelsie clinton on the board has nothing to do with it
17:28  * RangerZ not implying a direct 'marching orders' or 'conspiracy'
17:29 <@RangerZ> just that she would have promoted hiring 'like minded' people in the past
17:29 <@RangerZ> (as we all do)
17:30 <@RangerZ> but what is intersting...
17:31 <@RangerZ> that a "74 year old socialist jew from new york, who looks like my great grandfather" is 'toss up' states
17:31 <@RangerZ> which means he is 'gaining ground'
17:32 <@RangerZ> wow... I need sleep and learn how to -sentence-
17:32 <@RangerZ> s/is/is beating her in
17:33 <@RangerZ> bernie is likely to not win, because of the overwhelming early lead on funding she had, which Bernie raised 40 million dollars from 5 million donors last month
17:33  * RangerZ or was it 5m total donor
17:33 <@RangerZ> either way...
17:33 <@RangerZ> still ~37$ per person or something
17:34 <@RangerZ> so bernie is going to continue on, and that is just -pissing off- bill clinton (he is letting it show) and Hillary (word that alliterates with H)(s)
17:57 <@Evilpig> https://displate.com/barrettbiggers/video-game-inspired
17:57 < PigBot> Title: Video Game Inspired | Art prints on metal by Barrett Biggers (at displate.com) http://tinyurl.com/j3t3zdo
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18:17 < aestetix> penis
18:24 <@RangerZ> aestetix: more debates next week
18:25 <@RangerZ> correction
18:25 <@RangerZ> Dems tonight on CNN
18:26 <@RangerZ> then Dems on 9th
18:26 <@RangerZ> Repubs on 10th
18:26 <@RangerZ> I swear... its amazing to realize that they cut the number of debates by -over half-
18:34 <@RangerZ> oh god... I just thought of something funny...
18:34 <@RangerZ> if you made a chrome/firefox plugin...
18:34 <@RangerZ> on april first, swap SFW and NSFW
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23:34 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: This should tickle your vim obsession: https://twitter.com/curtiswallen/status/706613365901291520
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