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00:21 <@eryc> its all spam links
00:33 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: If it's on VU and it's a drupal wiki growing like that it's almost certainly spam
00:35 <@Dagmar> LOTS of people don't realize that unless they customize the holy hell out of their blog, require registered accounts, AND require moderator approval of each post, they will start getting spammed in about 36 hours or less, and there will be LOTS of spam as the bots figure out there's a new victim site and word gets 'round
00:37 <@eryc> an easy way is to require solving a simple word or math problem with english instructions
00:37 <@Dagmar> That'll just slow things down, since they mechanical turk that out
00:37 <@Dagmar> ...but it will at least stop the permutative/markov posting bots
00:38 <@Dagmar> *those* are generally looking to get Google ranking
00:38 <@Dagmar> They'll literally scrape Google for key phrases other bots have posted
00:38 <@Dagmar> ...and then post something else linking back to the other bot postings
00:38 <@eryc> if its a small website it should be effective
00:39 <@Dagmar> Just as long as you rename the page URLs for posting and so on
00:39 <@eryc> yea anything to make it somewhat hidden from the automation
00:39 <@Dagmar> The three "popular" blog software packages have tons of people working at abusing them for spam
00:39 <@eryc> if you use the popular option there's already automation against it
00:40 <@eryc> so all you have to do is add something unique
00:41 <@eryc> on one wiki they just added a question like "what is one + 1"
00:41 <@eryc> no more spam
00:43 <@eryc> i hear the spammers are using tensorflow to get around that now
00:43 <@Dagmar> I've seen some terrible ones
00:43 <@Dagmar> "How many of your penises are on fire?"
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01:19 <@Dagmar> http://www.legendaryspeed.com/this-repo-man-shows-us-how-his-lightening-fast-skills-on-a-corvette/
01:22 <@eryc> thats pretty cool.. i guess
01:22 <@eryc> unless happen to you park illegally
01:22 <@Dagmar> Oh... Here's a news item for you
01:23 <@Dagmar> Speck just got engaged
01:23 <@eryc> i saw a guy run out of a bar to chase his car down the street
01:23 <@eryc> cool i know the name speck but i don't recall who that is
01:23 <@Dagmar> Angela Page
01:24 <@Dagmar> She's was the _tiny_ little girl who was coming to the 2600 meetings in like 94-97
01:24 <@Dagmar> She was at the infamous SummerCon 96
01:24 <@eryc> ah yea i remember now
01:24 <@eryc> so she got engaged on an etch a sketch?
01:25 <@Dagmar> He also apparently asked her to marry him over a Nintendo 3DS StreetPass greeting
01:26 <@eryc> my gf isn't very good at video games
01:27 <@eryc> she seems cool from her profile
01:27 <@eryc> and what i can barely remember
01:27 <@Dagmar> Well, the StreetPass thing isn't a game exactly
01:27 <@Dagmar> It's almost useless for American gamers
01:27 <@Dagmar> Basically, when it's in standby mode the 3DS listens for other nearby 3DS units
01:28 <@eryc> yea i think you or someone explained this to me before
01:28 <@Dagmar> ...when it sees them, they exchange Miis and possibly some saved data from certain games, like battle teams or Animal Crossing houses
01:28 <@eryc> there's some kind of proxy/spoofer right?
01:28 <@Dagmar> There's also a few mini-games built into the 3DS that are tied directly into it
01:28 <@Dagmar> Yeah, we pretty much have to use a spoofer, or lurk around playgrounds
01:28 <@eryc> heh
01:29 <@Dagmar> ...or, make careful note of everywhere the wifi scanner sees certain APs a 3DS will talk to as a "StreetPass Relay"
01:29 <@eryc> can you uh, homebrew a 3ds?
01:29 <@Dagmar> Not that I'm aware of
01:29 <@eryc> k. i was thinking it would be a cool gift for my brother but i don't want him buying a bunch of games
01:29 <@Dagmar> There's some homebrew coding, but good luck building one
01:30 <@eryc> he mostly plays android rpgs and such
01:30 <@Dagmar> The upper 3D display is kind of specialized and the new unit eliminated an old problem in kind of a fancy way
01:30 <@Dagmar> To see the 3D properly you pretty much had to hold your head in about a six-inch wide space directly in front of the thing
01:30 <@eryc> i was pretty stoked about the 3d display when that came out
01:31 <@eryc> ah
01:31 <@Dagmar> THe new unit has a front-facing camera and actually uses head-tracking to adjust for your head moving around on the fly
01:31 <@Dagmar> I didn't expect they'd go that route because that's kind of a lot of trouble
01:31 <@eryc> i wonder if there's a chip that can do all that now
01:32 <@eryc> positional eye tracking
01:32 <@eryc> well eye/nose/mouth
01:32 <@Dagmar> I wouldn't be suprised
01:32 <@eryc> like the accelerometer chips
01:32 <@eryc> yea seems like they'd do that at some point
01:32 <@eryc> its probably not much overhead for the cpu tho
01:33 <@eryc> for a simplistic model anyway
01:33 <@Dagmar> Considering Nintendo's idea of a CPU is still just one step up from a glorified 6502 I was pretty impressed they got the AR stuff working at all
01:34 <@eryc> yea here we go http://www.eyetechds.com/board-level-oem.html
01:34 <@eryc> AEye Chip
01:34 <@eryc> hah yea
01:34 <@eryc> wait it does AR?
01:34 <@Dagmar> Shockingly, yes
01:34 <@eryc> like overlaying graphics on a live video feed?
01:34 <@Dagmar> Yes.
01:35 <@eryc> huh
01:35 <@eryc> crazy
01:35 <@Dagmar> Shockingly there are a few _games_ that use it that come with even the first rev
01:35 <@Dagmar> One that will literally appear to make a black hole on your desk
01:35 <@eryc> do they require you to buy some stupid plastic toy
01:35 <@Dagmar> Nope
01:35 <@Dagmar> They just use a colored card as a target for the AR stage
01:35 <@eryc> thats neat
01:36 <@Dagmar> All the overlaid images are aligned with it
01:36 <@Dagmar> Some folks were fooling around with a GIANT yellow rectangle in the middle of a public park to make it look like there was a 15-foot tall Pikachu
01:36 <@eryc> haha
01:37 <@Dagmar> Yeah I have to give Nintendo credit... for sort of being stuck in the dark ages on the CPU front, they work the _hell_ out of their hardware
01:38 <@eryc> i guess when it's a small handheld like that and you don't want people to charge it every 2 hours it makes sense to optimize the shit out of everything
01:39 <@Dagmar> Hell, by what I've seen most of their stuff is on the level of elegance with the old C-64 demoscene stuff
01:39 <@Dagmar> They might technically be making the slowest consoles in existance, but they write insanely tight code for them
01:40 <@Dagmar> ...just more proof that coding in Assembly makes for coders who are either awesome or unemployed.  Heh
01:41 <@eryc> hah
01:41 <@Dagmar> I am sort of irritated they sunset their "Internet Zone" functionality on the 3DS
01:41 <@Dagmar> I'd just figured out how some of it worked
01:42 <@Dagmar> It had local trivia game implementations and stuff like that, although it was _terribly_ crude and worked about as well as their web browser displaying CGI scripts running on a potatoe
01:42 <@Dagmar> I was looking forward to possibly making bogus Internet Zone hotspots
01:44 <@eryc> then you could have found the answer to how many penisis are on fire!
01:44 <@eryc> and thus nintento made the preemptive strike
01:44 <@Dagmar> Oh you don't know the half of that
01:45 <@Dagmar> Sometimes they *do* miss things which are otherwise pretty obvious
01:45 <@Dagmar> One of the built-ins on the 3DS was a 3D Notepad feature
01:45 <@Dagmar> You could draw sort of crude crayon sketches in limited 3D
01:45 <@Dagmar> You could also attach 3D photos to them as a background
01:45 <@Dagmar> These could be passed to other 3DS users via Streetpass (and Streetpass Relay)
01:46 <@Dagmar> It did not take very long for some people to figure out they could basically give random people 3D pictures of their junk
01:46 <@Dagmar> Nintendos press release about just turning that feature off was _very_ tongue-in-cheek
01:46 <@Dagmar> hehe
01:47 <@eryc> hah funny
01:47 <@Dagmar> The only real problem I had with their 3D camera was that the amount of perspective was limited by design
01:48 <@Dagmar> ...mainly because the screen it would be showing the images on was pretty limited in it's field depth
01:48 <@Dagmar> The two camera elements were about as far apart as the eyes of the average housecat
01:48 <@eryc> speaking of things that will happen on a computer when you give guys the ability to draw..
01:49 <@eryc> how come there weren't more pictures of dicks from cavemen in their caves?
01:49 <@eryc> or maybe there are i just never heard about them
01:49 <@Dagmar> It actually took about six months after the device's release for things to escalate to that point
01:49 <@Dagmar> Usually people were just taking really _weird_ 3D pis
01:49 <@Dagmar> er pics
01:50 <@eryc> oh they were in 3d too.. neat
01:51 <@Dagmar> Yeah, thankfully the effective resolution was like 320x200
01:52 <@Dagmar> I think what really got Nintendo moving was that you could send these pictures to people over the Nitendo network, and certain people were using this to send rather specific pics to each other
01:52 <@Dagmar> ...on a pay-as-you-go basis
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02:13 < aestetix> YES
02:13 < aestetix> I finally got a key
02:17 < aestetix> my new gpg fingerprint: 0x12345678
04:10 <@am1n0> heh how long did that take
04:13 < aestetix> about a week
05:04 < aestetix> http://donaldjdrumpf.com/
05:13 < aestetix> wow
05:13 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKe4fshETQ4
05:13 < aestetix> richard dawkins seems unhappy
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06:47 <@Dagmar> @#$@$
06:47 <@Dagmar> RPi3 is already sold out at Element14
06:49 <@Dagmar> ...and Adafruit
06:58 <@Dolemite_> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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07:00  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
07:01 < aestetix> so uh
07:01 < aestetix> if the RPi3 is so feature filled.... why are normal computers still so expensive?
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07:13 <@Dagmar> Because you're a fucking idiot
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07:17 <@opticron> lol, the pi3's cpu is "custom hardened"
07:34 <@RangerZ> aestetix: easy, because they don't have the same capabilities
07:37 <@RangerZ> Dagmar: http://thepihut.com/products/raspberry-pi-3-model-b
07:38 <@RangerZ> they have it, but in UK
07:41 <@RangerZ> 64 bit is nice to see though
07:42 <@RangerZ> part of me wishes AMD would make a x86 SoC (well a cheap one, they have them but they are more expensive+powerful)
07:49 <@RangerZ> they are a bit more expensive since UK, obviously, but if you want "early adopter tax" ...there you go
07:50 <@RangerZ> also I've bought from them before, and they are pretty good on shipping and quickness (I bought case for my PI2 from there)
08:14 <@Evilpig> alright.  wd has my replacement drive on the way
08:24 <@RangerZ> Evilpig: do you use the special 'nas' drives for your server?
08:24 <@RangerZ> or just regular ones?
08:24 <@Dolemite> I've seen what he has stored.  They are nas-ty.
08:25 <@RangerZ> Dolemite: that was a given
08:25 < aestetix> good god
08:25 < aestetix> http://www.salon.com/2016/02/28/i_can_explain_oscarssowhite_in_2_words_annie_hall/
08:25 < aestetix> The phrase "of color" is written so many fucking times
08:26 < aestetix> I hate liberals
08:27 <@Evilpig> RangerZ: I think I have red drives in the nas
08:29 < Shadow404> brb, i gotta go wipe my nas
08:29 < aestetix> Shadow404: just take the plug out of it
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08:36 < Shadow404> heh
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08:42 <@RangerZ> Shadow404: that was fucking priceless timing
08:42 <@RangerZ> I just want you to know that
08:43 <@RangerZ> Evilpig: I think Shadow404 has been screwing with you
08:45 <@Shadow404> yes, i was
08:45 <@Evilpig> comcast will be coming out today between 1 and 5 to fix the problem
08:46 <@Shadow404> thank god, u been dropping lots of packets out if that nas
08:46 <@Shadow404> if/of
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09:40 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: What do they claim the issue ie?
09:40 <@Dolemite> s/ie/is
09:40 <@Evilpig> upstream noise
09:41 <@Evilpig> didn't even fight me so they know it's fucked
09:41 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: just sent you an email
09:41 <@Dolemite> k
09:42 <@Dolemite>  /msg Evilpig Are you sure it's your baby?
09:42 <@Dolemite> shit
09:42 <@Dolemite> Evilpig: Looks like you've got plenty of fuck off time this week
09:43 <@Evilpig> i hate this
09:44 <@Evilpig> I have projects to work on, but one is semi-stalled for data collection
09:44 <@Evilpig> another is working with someone who is off today because of a late night weekend change
09:44 <@Evilpig> and the last is not to be touched until the other two are done. :-/
09:47 <@Dolemite> Evilpig:  see #opendcim
09:51 <@Shadow404> heh
09:53 < aestetix> protip
09:53 <@Shadow404> "just the tip"?
09:53 < aestetix> if you try to hack a site.... make sure that the callback url in your malware is not the system you're making the initial request from
09:54 <@Shadow404> heh
09:54 <@Shadow404> 127.0.0.1
09:54 <@RangerZ> honeypot system or live system you are recovering?
09:54 < aestetix> neither
09:54 <@RangerZ> Evilpig's server?
09:55 < aestetix> I noticed a hack attempt in nginx logs that was attempting to deliver a base64 encoded PHP payload
09:55 < aestetix> which I might care about if the system usedd PHP
09:57 < aestetix> the best part is that they have part of the code set to email themselves info from the server
09:58 <@Shadow404> nice, email him personally with a copy of the log
10:01 <@Evilpig> "Hi I got your email from <insert dump>"
10:01 <@Shadow404> hehe
10:01 < aestetix> $toz = "wintersummer9201@gmail.com";
10:01 < aestetix> there you go
10:01 < aestetix> have fun
10:02 <@Shadow404> "authorities will be in touch shortly, remain at your present location"
10:11 <@sasquatc4> http://store.steampowered.com/vive/ preorder is up
10:12 <@Shadow404> vr will be cool
10:13 <@Shadow404> imagine fps games
10:13 < aestetix> Shadow404: imagine porn
10:13 <@Shadow404> especially if they introduce body sensors, imagine ducking, etc
10:14 <@Shadow404> aestetix: yeah, any tech, almost always gets subverted
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10:14 <@Shadow404> take hatachi
10:14 <@Shadow404> or food blenders, or internet
10:15 <@Shadow404> the list goes on
10:21 < aestetix> Shadow404: you could use it for your camming
10:21 <@Shadow404> lawl
10:22 <@Shadow404> scott kellys last full day
10:23 < aestetix> who is that
10:23 <@Shadow404> wrong channel
10:24 <@Shadow404> astronaut that has been abord iss for a full year
10:24 < aestetix> WHO IS THAT
10:24 < aestetix> oh
10:24 <@Shadow404> has a twin brother
10:24 <@Shadow404> will study differences on both for zero g studies
10:25 <@Shadow404> ground brother will be the constant
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10:37 <@RangerZ> basically think of Einstein's "twin brothers... one goes speed of light" theory
10:38 <@RangerZ> well... they decided this worked pretty well, despite being much lower speeds, lol
10:46  * RangerZ knows Shadow404 will not like that joke explanation... but *ehh*
10:49 <@RangerZ> ohh nice, WD RED 4TB are only 150$ now
11:07 < aestetix> that's a lot of porn
11:08 < oddball> nice
11:22 <@RangerZ> oddball: that might actually help you
11:22 <@RangerZ> lol
11:22 <@RangerZ> this time... may I suggest off-waifu-site-back-up ?
11:23 <@RangerZ> oddball: hehe
11:23 < oddball> ...yeah...
11:49 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ8YB7a-JKE
11:50 <@RangerZ> as an FYI to those who care, I bought a Pi3 and a 16GB microSD W/NOOBs preinstalled (Since I needed another non-class 4 microSD for it) for ~58$ shipped after shipping (depending on how much my CC does the exchange rate for), so 30£ for PI3, 8£ for microSD HC (class 10/HC I) and 4£ S&H £42.00 total -> 58~59$ USD
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11:51 <@RangerZ> 58$ for PI3, microSD and shipping from UK, isn't too bad 58-35 = 23 - (10$ cost of sd card) = 13$ for S&H + "i don't want to wait/bother-fee"
11:51 <@rattle> Dagmar: Was at the NocNoc last night.  Happy to report it's still there, and hasn't changed a bit in 16 years..
11:53 < aestetix> Holy shit
11:53 < aestetix> Clarence Thomas asked questions
11:56 <@RangerZ> i guess he couldn't wait for scalia to do it
11:59 <@RangerZ> oddball: you'll be surprised that I probably 'partially' agree with you about the gun 'rights' question before the SCOTUS today.
12:01 <@RangerZ> I don't think a misdemeanor should suspend your rights, including our currently scewed interpretration of the 2nd, as the domestic violence laws are right now
12:01 <@RangerZ> I also don't think you should lose your right to vote if you ever commited a felony
12:02 <@RangerZ> (not being able to vote while in prison 'at least makes sense')
12:02 <@RangerZ> Though I also wouldn't have domestic violence classified as a 'misdemeanor' either
12:04 <@RangerZ> now... the question of ... should felons continue to be punished after they are released from jail?... (in so that they can't have firearms or vote) ...
12:04 <@Dolemite> Once you server your time, your debt to society has been repaid.
12:04 <@Dolemite> s/server/serve
12:05 <@RangerZ> thats a question I'm not 100% sure on... but I think it should be related to the crime(s) comitted, if they committed crimes with a firearm, then they shouldn't be allowed to purchase another one, because you can classify that as 'part of the punishment'
12:05 <@RangerZ> if they committed a crime while voting... then sure take that right away too
12:05 < aestetix> Dolemite: if that were true, why are you required to disclose your crime to your potential employers?
12:05 <@RangerZ> but MUCH LESS LIKELY
12:05 <@RangerZ> aestetix: you aren't legally
12:05 <@RangerZ> but they have cause to fire you if they find out you lied
12:05 < aestetix> So if I apply for a job, and simple don't answer the question?
12:05 < aestetix> simply*
12:06 <@RangerZ> aestetix: I personally think one of the few things we can adopt from Korean law/society is that we DO NOT publish the names of suspects/convicted felons
12:06 <@RangerZ> and that once they are released they never have to talk about their crime
12:06 < aestetix> So interesting.... if you apply and refuse to answer that question, and they pass on you, can you sue?
12:07 <@RangerZ> our 1st amendment (and suppposedly what the '5th estate' is suppose to do... causes problems with that)
12:07 <@RangerZ> no
12:07 <@RangerZ> at least not in Ohio or PA, i know that much for sure
12:07 <@RangerZ> not sure about other states
12:07 < aestetix> So they are allowed to ask, but not required to compel
12:07 <@RangerZ> actually they are allowed to 'compel'
12:08 <@RangerZ> "you must answer these questsions to be hired"
12:08 < aestetix> That contradicts what you just said
12:08 <@RangerZ> but there is no -legal- recourse to you if you lie
12:08 < aestetix> Ohhhh.
12:08 < aestetix> So it's another one of those American traps.
12:08 < aestetix> Sort of like the overdraft bank fee trap.
12:09 < aestetix> And I'm guessing this hits a lot of black men who were jailed for drug crimes?
12:09 <@RangerZ> umm... not really
12:09 <@RangerZ> I agree that NSF fees are a joke
12:09 < aestetix> Not making it a race thing, I'm just using statistics.
12:09 <@RangerZ> and I disable that feature now on all my accounts
12:09 <@RangerZ> no, I didn't assume a race joke in there, I just don't see the connection
12:10 < aestetix> Oh. The connection is that most prisoners are blacks in jail for drug crimes.
12:10 <@RangerZ> ohh wow
12:10 <@RangerZ> nvm
12:10 <@RangerZ> I think I have a problem with tmux or weechat or something
12:10 < aestetix> And it logically follows that when they are released, they will try to get a job, and have to disclose this info.
12:10 <@RangerZ> I didn't have that line about black men at first
12:10 < aestetix> lol
12:10 <@RangerZ> yes, it hits blacks and hispanics MUCH harder
12:11 <@RangerZ> the unemployment rates do NOT count people in jail
12:11 < aestetix> I mean the drug tests do the same
12:11 <@RangerZ> if you did, the black rate would be much higher than it already is, and black unemployment is already ~2x that of white
12:11 < aestetix> Actually you know
12:11 < aestetix> I would respect Black Lives Matters a LOT more if they fought those two battles.
12:11 < aestetix> Eliminating drug test requirements, and the questions about past crimes
12:12 < aestetix> Right now they seem like a bunch of idiots
12:12 <@RangerZ> I agree, but we also aren't under the 'thumb' of cops 24/7
12:12 <@RangerZ> to 'us' it makes sense to target small things first
12:13 <@RangerZ> but black men are out there getting killed with no recourse, and the black community has basically 'snapped' and had enough
12:13 < aestetix> That's because they are demonstrable markers which prove some sort of progress.
12:13 < aestetix> They have had enough, but what are they doing?
12:13 <@RangerZ> aestetix: actaully I agree with Sanders and MLK Jr. more than I do BLM, "economic justice is social justice" I believe was one of the sayings MLK pushed
12:14 < aestetix> sure
12:14 <@RangerZ> IIRC Clinton's "women's rights are human rights" is a spin on that
12:14 < aestetix> I do not argue with those statements.
12:14 < aestetix> I argue with the assertion that BLM is worth a shit.
12:15 < aestetix> It might as well be a bowel movement.
12:15 <@RangerZ> the more I listened to the Majority Report with its SUPER IN DEPTH interviews on subjects like this... the more that I think 'racism' is less of an issue now, as much as 'economic injustice'
12:15 < aestetix> Instead of solving issues, they are making things worse by silencing dissent.
12:15 < aestetix> Or even anyone who wants to ask them questions.
12:15 < aestetix> Absolutely.
12:16 <@RangerZ> and unfortunately... the inner cities are where the majority of blacks live (b/c of racism in the 40s~80s)
12:16 <@RangerZ> 'red line'(S) describing which part of town(s) blacks to move to
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12:16 < aestetix> So, focus on two major issues. Drug tests and criminal record disclosure.
12:16 < aestetix> And watch in five years how much better life gets.
12:16 <@RangerZ> aestetix: it doesn't work that way
12:17 <@RangerZ> not when a high % of your workfore-age males are assaulted by police/in jail
12:17 < aestetix> Then how do you suggest approaching it?
12:18 <@RangerZ> get a billionaire to give out free guns on every city street corner, and let it solve... ohh wait... thats how to get gun control passed
12:18 <@RangerZ> lol
12:19 <@RangerZ> no seriously... it takes LONG TERM involvement to get 1) policing out of the 1990s "tough on crime" mode 2) promote social mobility through work + study programs, kinda sounds 'hippy dippy' but its the only thing that will work
12:19 <@RangerZ> Personally I like that Japanese model of having little shacks every few miles where 1~2 police officers just 'chill' all the time
12:20 <@RangerZ> I'm a BIG supporter of 'community policing', which has police actually be -required- to live where they police
12:21 < aestetix> That wouldn't work if there is another round of white flight.
12:21 <@RangerZ> perhaps
12:22 <@RangerZ> but look at current trends
12:22 <@RangerZ> ppl WANT TO live in the cities
12:22 <@RangerZ> only what... 8% of the US lives in 'rural'
12:22 < aestetix> penis
12:22 <@RangerZ> and 25% in 'sub-rural'
12:23 <@RangerZ> but there is 1 more key thing, and this comes from the historic trends in counter-insurgency paper from goode that the military published...
12:23 <@RangerZ> basically historically it has always taken (I believe I got the # right at '7') 7 military per 1000 population to hold a region without having trouble
12:24 <@RangerZ> a LARGE part of why Iraq had so many problems is that we 'aimed for' a ratio of 3 per 1000
12:24 <@RangerZ> so there was never enough manpower to actually show 'pressense'
12:24 <@RangerZ> I think we have the same problem with cops
12:25 <@RangerZ> There is never enough cops to feel 'safe' IMHO
12:25 <@RangerZ> I don't know what the ratio needs to be, but I think increasing the total # of cops and having them work less hours say ... 40... would be better for everyone
12:25 <@RangerZ> police unions are about the ONLY unions in the US with too much power IMHO
12:26 <@RangerZ> they keep the hiring #s low, so that more 'over time' is given out
12:26 <@RangerZ> so hire a lot more police, but do NOT 'up armor' them like military
12:27 <@RangerZ> and have them have smaller patrol areas
12:27 <@RangerZ> let them get to know the areas better, let the people get to know them
12:27  * RangerZ was part of the youth-police academy when I was in HS. The cops weren't something to be afraid of
12:28  * RangerZ is also white, lived in a super rich suburb, with great schools, and one of my best friends' father was a sgt. &sniper for the local dept.
12:29 <@RangerZ> so I 'know' that I was an outlier, but... still... I'd feel safer if there was a little 15x15 building at the end of the road where 1~2 cops always were
12:30 <@RangerZ> and if they walked the neighborhood (mind you I live in basically a suburb part of nashville now, despite it being 'nashville proper' still)
12:30 <@RangerZ> but that would make a lot more sense downtown/near vandy/ near large apartments/etc.
12:31 <@RangerZ> BLM sadly needs to do counter-intuitive things such as say "there needs to be more cops"...."But ones that don't kill us for no reason"
12:31 <@RangerZ> imagine a message like that, it would gather a LOT more support
12:48 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_efRUrmjSc
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12:54 <@Evilpig> RangerZ: or they could stop doing shit like blocking students from getting to classes, stop blocking traffic on major thoroughfares and make valid points so people will give them consideration and not treat them as their lowest common denominator which gets no positive thoughts and is only referred to with derision 
13:16 <@sasquatc4> \o/ comcast/viper interview1 set
13:29 <@Evilpig> you're interviewing to go work for comcast?  maybe then I can get my shit fixed right
13:30 <@Evilpig> just don't go for the billing dept or you might have to deal with dag
13:44 <@sasquatc4> hah, naw, its for viper which is their IPTV and research division
13:46 <@Evilpig> if you're gonna goto work for the devil then you're gonna fix our issues, damnit
13:48 <@sasquatc4> naw ill just make more technology related issues
13:50 <@Dolemite> sasquatc4 is already descriptive of a competent Comcast technician - often talked about, never proven to exist
14:06 <@sasquatc4> :) i still gotta find out what groups they have, thats mostly the point of the first call to find out which group i would want to be in, i think they are split out in to IPTV delivery/backend, bigdata, devops, couple of others
14:15 <@RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMx074eroTs
14:15 <@RangerZ> $3,000.00
14:15 <@RangerZ> [HoloLens Development Edition Available for Pre-Order]
14:16 <@RangerZ> since Evilpig can't keep the bot going ;)
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14:18 <@Evilpig> I'm blaming comcast
14:18 <@Evilpig> it just finally got pissed off and said fuck it on trying to reconnect
14:39 <@Shadow404> any luck with tech dispatch today?
14:53 <@Evilpig> he just called and he's not interested in coming here
14:53 <@Evilpig> he's claiming that they had line techs out working on installing some new fiber in the area that was causing the issues
14:54 <@Evilpig> I told him my issues are going back two months and unless that part of their infrastructure was fucked then it isn't my problem.  if that was my problem then they owe me some cash for not fixing it and having me pay for broken shit
14:55 <@Dagmar> You should be recording the call
15:11 <@Evilpig> yeah I probably should be
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15:41 <@Evilpig> comcast is outside
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16:18 <@Evilpig> and we're back?
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16:19 <@Evilpig> clown removed the moca filter from the line in the house, claimed the wall jack wasn't on right.  it's a barrel connector right?  jackass...  and then proceded to tell me about his zenon server with with 12 processors he has at home that he rarely turns on
16:20 <@Evilpig> the one he was complaining about is a quad-xeon hex-core.  fool.  lastly he added insult to me to tell me how comcast is gonna drop their rates to match everyone else AND offer better service.
16:20 <@Dagmar> LOOOOOOL
16:20 <@Evilpig> when I asked why they didn't drop the rates now and try to garner good will with the customers prior to their being other viable options, he had no answer
16:20 < aestetix> hmmm
16:20 <@Dagmar> You'd really think they would have done something about the problem long before being formally declared the most-hated company in America.
16:21 <@Evilpig> after a while in silence he tried to tell me the wonders of docsis 3.1 and how they were just waiting for the manufacturers to get more equipment out so they could offer better service
16:21 < aestetix> Dagmar: I don't think they care if anyone likes them since they have a monopoly over service
16:21 <@Evilpig> aestetix: knowing they are about to lose that monopoly you'd think they'd try to secure as many customers as possible in this time leading up 
16:22 <@Dagmar> Yes that's precisely why they fucked me over for a month
16:22 <@Dagmar> They literally _can't_ do better
16:22 <@Dagmar> Their stupidity is so deeply entrenched the only reasonable option is euthanasia
16:25 <@Evilpig> damnit I think I just hit a bug in diablo 3 that is gonna piss me off
16:25 <@Evilpig> I killed a treasure goblin and he dropped a few sets of plans
16:25 <@Evilpig> a couple set plans that were green and a few artifacty looking ones and one legendary.
16:25 <@Evilpig> they aren't in my inventory now, the blacksmith doesn't know them...
16:25 <@Evilpig> wtf?!
16:29 <@Dagmar> I am the awesomest at microSD management
16:30 <@Dagmar> I have apparently lost the 8Gb microSD card I was working on
16:32 <@RangerZ> lies
16:32 <@RangerZ> a cat took it
16:34 <@Evilpig> ^
16:35 <@Dagmar> Probably ate the damn thing, too
16:35 <@Evilpig> cats don't eat sd's
16:35 <@Dagmar> Still, only about three hours' work on it
16:35 <@Evilpig> they hide them
16:35 <@Dagmar> Not a big loss
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19:40 <@opticron> Evilpig, they're in the crafting supplies satchel in your gear page
19:41 <@Evilpig> opticron: I eventually found them.  thanks.  that had me pissed off
19:41 <@opticron> and they eat inventory space
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20:01 <@Evilpig> your mom eats inventory space
20:03 <@RangerZ> no she doesn't she is on a diet now, doctor said inv. space is high in fiber
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20:36 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: Bastard
20:36 <@RangerZ> hehe
20:39 <@Dagmar> I suspect this is another case of export price weirdness
20:39 <@Dagmar> Basically, Chinese vendors are getting their shipping to the US subsidized by the Chinese gov't
20:42 <@RangerZ> probably
20:42 <@RangerZ> USD is staying strong while other curriencies are dropping, or inflating widly
20:43 <@RangerZ> canada has lost like 35% value to the dollar or something
20:43 <@Dagmar> Well, it's an actual "thing" China is doing to fuck with us
20:43 <@RangerZ> listening to canadians talk about buying computer parts in USD is fun, because they always cringe a few seconds after saying the price, after realizing the exchange rate now, lol
20:44 <@Dagmar> Hell, you should try some Australians
20:44 <@RangerZ> also, it helps keep "down" the 'trade deficit(SP?)'
20:44 < _NSAKEY> You guys bring up the Chinese... They've utterly decimated the domestic junk prices because they stopped buying scrap.
20:45 <@RangerZ> Aussies just cry when they see game prices ~110$ USD for a game
20:45 <@RangerZ> _NSAKEY: thank god no one in here made money selling scrap
20:45 <@RangerZ> I mean....
20:45 <@RangerZ> hehe
20:45 <@Dagmar> Hardware gets jacked up the same way
20:45 <@RangerZ> hell look at AMD's graphics cards
20:46 <@Dagmar> I almost wound up buying new video cards for the guild leader and his wife and shipping them to AU myself
20:46 < _NSAKEY> I heard very recently about a suburban going across the scales at Express and they only gave $125.00 for it.
20:46 <@RangerZ> so many bitcoin miners in china were buying up the cards the price was almost 50% higher than MSRP for a while
20:46 <@RangerZ> 'while' = almost 2 years
20:46 < _NSAKEY> Dude, no, not the Chinese.
20:46 < _NSAKEY> Sure, they were doing that too.
20:47 < _NSAKEY> ... But EVERYONE who got in on bitcoin when it spiked to $1300 was buying AMD cards and bumping the prices way up.
20:47 < _NSAKEY> It was actually one of my motivations for going with nvidia at the time.
20:48 <@Dagmar> LOL http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA12K3UZ4999&cm_re=golden_monkey-_-20-242-160-_-Product
20:48 < PigBot> Title: Kingston 32GB Chinese New Year Golden Monkey Metal Flash Drive Model DTCNY1632GB - Newegg.com (at www.newegg.com) http://tinyurl.com/j9aeos5
20:49 <@RangerZ> too bad it doesn't give the price
20:49 <@RangerZ> you could have some fun linking something
20:49 <@Dagmar> Huh?  I see $20
20:50 <@RangerZ> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA3EX3U05634&cm_re=microsd-_-9SIA3EX3U05634-_-Product
20:50 < PigBot> Title: SanDisk Ultra 16GB micro SDHC Flash Memory Card Storage Card Class 10 With Adapter - Newegg.com (at www.newegg.com) http://tinyurl.com/h5lm4w8
20:50 <@RangerZ> its now up to 2.99$ + 4.99$ shipping
20:50 <@RangerZ> so apparently the 0.10$ -was- wrong
20:51 <@Dagmar> I'm not surprised
20:52 <@Dagmar> I was literally about to order 50 of the things if they were willing to combine shipping to about $20
20:52 <@RangerZ> my 'test' order had 10x of them for 1$, and came to 50$ after shipping
20:52 <@RangerZ> was amusing
20:52 <@Dagmar> The app didn't give me any way to filter out third-party vendors
20:52 <@Dagmar> If I'm buying from NewEgg it's because I expect it to ship from one of their fulfillment centers _nearby_, not freaking China
20:55 <@eryc> same issue with amazon.. you have to check the delivery estimate which can be a range of 2-30days sometimes
20:55 <@eryc> and/or check the seller profile to see if they mention they are in china, which not all do
20:56 <@eryc> i usually just pay the extra $5 for a prime listing
20:57 <@eryc> i'm not a big newegg fan because of their restocking fees
21:00 < _NSAKEY> eryc: I got lucky with that one time. Ordered a bad stick of RAM, so I just contacted the manufacturer and got to RMA it to California. No need to involve newegg.
21:07 <@eryc> I had an mSATA drive that failed on my outside of the warranty a while back and the amazon vendor was gracious enough to replace it for me.
21:07 <@eryc> on me*
21:08 <@eryc> which was nice because I had to rebuild my entire laptop OS due to its failure
21:09 <@eryc> also i was lucky enough to be able to wipe the drive several times with /dev/one and /dev/zero
21:09 <@eryc> and then setup spideroak and crashplan so i don't get fucked again
21:12 <@RangerZ> eryc: that doesn't work for ITAR
21:13 <@RangerZ> you need to run dban
21:13 <@RangerZ> full 7 pass
21:13 <@RangerZ> ORRRRR take the drive to the range and shoot it a few times... we did both at isis when working on an itar project, lol
21:16 <@eryc> yea i know dban.. it wasn't that serious.. just wanted to wipe my ssh key, etc
21:16 <@RangerZ> lol
21:17 <@eryc> i still haven't used the replacement mSATA they gave me.. it just sits in my laptop unformatted
21:18 <@eryc> i bought a sata caddy for the cdrom drive so it actually has 3 ssds now
21:18 <@eryc> because who needs cdroms anymore
21:20 <@eryc> here's what happens when you eat nashville hot chicken from kfc: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/f8/3e/f6/f83ef6baba6d21bf8b81b56d67888f16.gif
21:21 <@RangerZ> that you accidently have eaten 'hot chicken' ?
21:21 <@RangerZ> << Doesn't like hot food, lol
21:22 <@RangerZ> dating an idian girl was 'interesting'
21:22 <@eryc> i tried kfc a few months ago
21:22 <@RangerZ> her.. 'paprika has no taste' .. me... 'Umm... I'm sorry you have burned off your taste buds, it certainly does, its not a strong flavor, but it has one'
21:22 <@eryc> its gone downhill since it went downhill
21:23 <@RangerZ> they even made the side dishes much smaller
21:23 <@RangerZ> which is 'impressive' in its own certain twisted way
21:24 <@eryc> thank god for popeyes
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21:26 <@eryc> everyone put on pants now klixa is here
21:27 <@klixa> do i have to put on pants too?
21:27 <@eryc> no thats optional
21:27 <@eryc> we respect your clothing choices
21:28 <@klixa> i appreciate that
21:28 <@eryc> also if you have any breastfeeding to do we won't be offended
21:31 <@eryc> unless you're feeding wilpig then we might raise an eyebrow
21:35 <@eryc> i've had a few drinks to ease my anxiety going into super tuesday
21:35 < oddball> screw you and the bifurcated oppressors!
21:35  * oddball wears a kilt.
21:37 <@eryc> you can only wear a kilt around here if it's leather and you carry a flogger
21:43 < oddball> This work for you? http://i.imgur.com/RZHCtoZ.jpg
21:47 <@eryc> yes that is acceptable
22:11 <@eryc> http://gfycat.com/CooperativeOrderlyGoshawk
22:11 < PigBot> Title: ProlapseSucking - Jiffier gifs through HTML5 Video Conversion. (at gfycat.com) http://tinyurl.com/hx3uhvb
22:14 < _NSAKEY> That reads like something aestetix would link to.
22:14 < _NSAKEY> You're on a roll tonight, eryc.
22:22 <@eryc> i was crossing my fingers that the bot wasn't around to spoil it :(
22:52 <@Dagmar> Oh my gawd
22:52 <@Dagmar> Priceline has a _horrible_ new commercial
23:12 <@RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/user/priceline/videos
23:12 < PigBot> Title: priceline.com - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/jfepugm
23:13 <@RangerZ> can you point us to the affender in this lineup?
23:13 <@RangerZ> don't worry, its a one way mirror, they can't see you
23:31 <@eryc> heh
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