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00:07 <@sasquatc4> i just find it hard to believe the psvr is going to come anywhere close to the fidelity of the others, the consoles usually fail or struggle very hard to come close to even 1080 resolution @60fps
00:36 <@RangerZ> sasquatc4: nah, it'll easily hit the 1080p 90hz goal
00:36 <@RangerZ> just have to turn down graphical fidelity
00:37 <@RangerZ> it will be _different_ type of experiences, lots of cell shading, etc at first
00:38 <@RangerZ> NOT what I would _kill_ for... a 360x360 degree array of virtual desktops, etc.
02:42 <@RangerZ> sasquatc4: PS4 has 1.8 Teraflops of graphics processing built into it (there is a chance the PSVR has an addon graphics board in a breakout-box) (which would likely be another 1.8 Tflop GPU that way they are running in SLI, and each GPU only has to handle one eye)
02:44 <@RangerZ> thats roughly (in NV terms) a GeForce GTX 660, which is plenty powerful enough to push low-AA and lower graphic fidelity content
02:46 <@RangerZ> but yeah, it won't be anywhere close to a 2~3x GTX Titan or 2~3x R9 Fury X rig... which costs... what... 2k$ ? but for 400$+(400?$) it will be a lot better than PC 'at that cost'
02:50 < aestetix> I finally did it
02:50 < aestetix> I am able to watch German sesame street
03:00 <@RangerZ> congrats
03:01 <@RangerZ> I wish I had the ability to learn a foreign language :/
03:01 <@RangerZ> I'd have to -emerse- myself with nothing BUT that language to even be able to do it... tried too many times otherwise
03:02 < aestetix> The best part is when I learn some insanely wierd german language thing.... and I think "nobody would ever do this"
03:02 < aestetix> and then I see it in an ad on the train on the way home
03:03 < aestetix> Because the way that German does compound words.... where they combine words to make a big long word
03:03 < aestetix> There is also a thing where they split words up
03:03 < aestetix> it's really wierd to me
03:04 < aestetix> Example: "zug fahrt ein" which translates to "train is coming"..... it's from "zug" meaning train, and "einfahrt" meaning incoming, but because ein is a prefix, it gets split up, and turns into "zug fahrt ein"
03:04 < aestetix> if that makes any sense
03:05 < aestetix> the infinitive of that is einfahren, aka fahren + ein.... you also have ausfahren
03:12 < aestetix> RangerZ: another interesting interpretation.... schreiben is to write, uberschriebt is to translate. instead of a word for "trans", they use "uber"
03:13 <@RangerZ> there should be a lot of jokes in that one
03:14 <@RangerZ> (bad jokes, but still jokes)
03:15 < aestetix> btw in fahren the a has an umlaut
03:15 < aestetix> but I can't figure out how to write it here
03:16 <@RangerZ> ALT+ some characters
03:17 < aestetix> That's windows
03:17 <@RangerZ> http://symbolcodes.tlt.psu.edu/bylanguage/german.html
03:17 < PigBot> Title: German Accent Codes (at symbolcodes.tlt.psu.edu) http://tinyurl.com/p68pspc
03:17 <@RangerZ> also... fuck doing that with tmux :/
03:18 < aestetix> s/tmux/screen/
03:19 <@RangerZ> I thought more common *nix had followed windows in inputting characters like windows does
03:19 <@RangerZ> b/c it 'does' make sense to a certain degree
03:20 <@RangerZ> also... fuck Wordpress for not having the concept of relational content
03:21 <@RangerZ> you can't easily make a series of posts (in my case 'chapters') that point to each other with [PREVIOUS] | [INDEX] | [NEXT] links
03:23 <@RangerZ> I really don't -want- to have to write my OWN fucking wordpress plugins...
03:23 <@RangerZ> but it really seems that I need to... b/c there is -basic functionality- that is missing :/
03:25 <@RangerZ> and I really don't want to learn joomla :/
03:35 < aestetix> could be worse. it could be drupal
03:35 < aestetix> actually they suck about the same
03:37 <@RangerZ> the thing the 'kills' me... is that about 10 years ago I was doing dynamic PHP/JS MySQL CMS
03:37 <@RangerZ> and then I see that things have only gotten 'worse' since then
03:39 <@RangerZ> this was when 'ajax' was 'getting big'
03:40 <@RangerZ> and I'm sometimes glad I got out of that field... and sometimes I really wish I'd stayed and actually got my PHP cert (which I felt I was close to qualifying for)
03:40 <@RangerZ> because I know people who contract out for 25k (min. bid.) for drupal,joomla,or WP sites
03:41 <@RangerZ> and it makes me cry a little thinking about that
03:41 <@RangerZ> lol
03:41 < aestetix> PHP cert? that sounds.... like a step up from A+
03:42 <@RangerZ> zend, the company that 'makes' PHP has a cert program
03:42 <@RangerZ> it was new when I was looking, went from <1k to just over 5k worldwide when I started/stopped doing PHP for fun
03:45 <@RangerZ> you know... I -tried- making a joomla site once... without reading 'how to' do it... and honestly I couldn't figure out the 'right order' it wanted me to do things... and I just gave up... I was like... 'meh'
03:48 <@RangerZ> also... FUCK protypical inheritence
03:48 <@RangerZ> Sorry... thats sorta a pavolvian response when I think about JS lately
03:50 <@RangerZ> python DUCT typing falls into that category of 'man... fuck the person who was lazy and made this design decision'
04:50 <@RangerZ> aestetix: you still there?
04:51 <@RangerZ> or anyone else? if i want to regex find a stirng and NOT find instances where a string is after it, how do I do that
04:52 <@RangerZ> so for example.... input -> ' test-flag{random stuff}\n test{random stuff}\n ' I want to ONLY find the 2nd line
04:53 <@RangerZ> I can find the 1st line with ' (test)(!?-flag) '
04:55 <@RangerZ>  ' (test)+(-flag) '  also works (probably better)
04:59 <@RangerZ> nvm... it is ' (test)(?!-flag) ' (I had '!' and '?' inverted)
05:42 < aestetix> yes
05:57 <@RangerZ> hmm... I didn't realize you could do groups with regex
05:58 <@RangerZ> jesus... the scripts of series of replacements I would do in order was fucking wasteful :/
06:23 < aestetix> groups? like capture groups?
06:28 <@RangerZ> possibly same thing, (a)(b)(c) where a=$1, b = $2, c= $3
06:31 < aestetix> es
06:31 < aestetix> yes
06:31 < aestetix> that's one of my favorite features of regex
06:35 <@RangerZ> I was well aware of the use of regex and substitution 'used together'...
06:35 <@RangerZ> but I didn't realize it 'worked' in notepad++ that way
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06:37 < aestetix> s/notepad++/vim yes it does
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06:40 <@Dolemite^> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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07:03 < aestetix> holy hell this is creepy
07:03 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eolgNHdVlu8
07:03 < PigBot> Title: How Girls Use Snapchat! | Courtney Walker - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/jare5cu
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08:09 <@Evilpig> YAY COMCAST!
08:11 <@Dolemite^> Are you sure that Dagmar hasn't been giving them your name whenever he calls to abuse them?
08:12 <@RangerZ> at this point I'm starting to wonder how tall of poles we would need for line of sight 5ghz (up to 25km) dishes
08:12 <@Evilpig> it's possible. but this is their usual level of incomptence at work
08:12 <@RangerZ> build a mesh network of techies
08:12 <@RangerZ> only ~100$ for a pair of dishes
08:12 <@Evilpig> RangerZ: nashville is in a bowl, that would suck
08:13 <@RangerZ> actually, the valley nature of most cities would make it easier for a local 'wan'
08:13 <@RangerZ> problem is the hills
08:14 <@RangerZ> I happen to live ontop of a very tall hill, but most people don't
08:17 <@RangerZ> aestetix: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/british-pound-plummets-day-after-boris-backed-brexit/2016/02/22/94e36394-4272-4b9a-a218-4b1262b581ae_story.html
08:17 < PigBot> Title: British pound plummets day after Boris backed ‘Brexit’ - The Washington Post (at www.washingtonpost.com) http://tinyurl.com/zlmlzvz
08:17 <@RangerZ> Brexit is gonna crash EU economy hard if it happens
08:18 <@RangerZ> I'm curious to see where 'markets' move to (if they do) inside the EU... somewhere without stock-taxe obviously, but I'm not sure which nations have that
08:18 <@RangerZ> ohh jesus christ....
08:18 <@RangerZ> http://gematsu.com/2016/02/ibm-japan-announces-sword-art-online-virtual-reality-project
08:18 < PigBot> Title: IBM Japan announces Sword Art Online virtual reality project - Gematsu (at gematsu.com) http://tinyurl.com/zclfkvx
08:18 <@RangerZ> because THAT is a good idea...
08:19 <@RangerZ> Sword Art Online is a series of light novels/manga/anime/video games centered on the idea of people getting stuck in VR and dying in reality if they die in game
08:19 <@RangerZ> I mean... it would be cool fucking game
08:19 <@RangerZ> but still....
08:24 <@RangerZ> I guess this is cool... for backwards compatability... but 'ehh' for me... http://hackaday.com/2016/02/21/5-vga-for-raspberry-pi/
08:24 < PigBot> Title: $5 VGA for Raspberry Pi | Hackaday (at hackaday.com) http://tinyurl.com/zgbz3sn
08:45 <@Evilpig>  Bill: i'll just wait for john to come in today
08:45 <@Evilpig>  Me: he isn't coming in today
08:46 <@Evilpig>  Bill: i'll just wait for john to come in today
08:46 <@Evilpig> just plain wow
08:46 < aestetix> is john playing hookie?
08:46 <@Evilpig> doctor's appointment and then working from home the rest of the day
08:47 < aestetix> did he get sick from the salesforce training?
08:48 <@RangerZ> Evilpig: was 'bill' just trying to be funny?
08:49 <@RangerZ> or indicating his real level of laziness
08:49 < aestetix> is bill black?
08:56 <@Evilpig> RangerZ: bill was very serious
08:56 <@Evilpig> no bill is not black
08:57 <@Evilpig> anyone one in here ever mess with RRDGRAPH?
08:57 < aestetix> is he mexican?
08:57 < aestetix> Evilpig: yes
08:57 < aestetix> you mean like rrdtool?
08:58 <@Evilpig> yeah like rrdtool but makign a custom graph
08:58 <@RangerZ> Evilpig: I knew the name, and I think I played with it for a day when we were experimenting with RRDTool
08:58 <@Evilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/dyqyzzpznfrvopg/Screenshot%202016-02-22%2008.58.55.png?dl=0
08:59 < PigBot> Title: Dropbox - Screenshot 2016-02-22 08.58.55.png (at www.dropbox.com) http://tinyurl.com/jt5vc4h
08:59 <@Evilpig> so i've made this graph, and I want to format the units at the bottom to either Kb or Mb but can't figure it out.  I just keep breaking it
09:00 <@Evilpig> actually I think I just figured it out
09:00 <@Evilpig> I just need to treat it like a comment
09:01 <@RangerZ> are you useing the vdef part of the cli instr?
09:02 <@Evilpig> yeah, I think?  like --vertical-label \"bits/sec\" --slope-mode --alt-autoscale --alt-y-grid -r  ?
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09:13 <@Evilpig> thanks comcast.
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10:50 < aestetix> has anyhting interesting come out of shmoocon in the last couple years?
10:57 <@RangerZ>  a couple babies 9 months later
10:57  * RangerZ made a wild guess
10:59 < aestetix> I didn't know skydog was there
11:00 <@Evilpig> he's fixed
11:00 < aestetix> ..... why do you know this
11:00 <@Evilpig> how don't you?  everyone else does
11:00 < aestetix> I guess I never asked.
11:01 <@Evilpig> he volunteers that info
11:01 < aestetix> why does everyone know this?
11:01 <@Evilpig> you don't have to ask, just have to be around him long enough
11:01 <@Evilpig> that and his answer to why is divorce so expensive "because it's worth it"
11:02 <@Mirage> His ex probably agrees.
11:06 < aestetix> Wait, in order to be divorced, he must have found a woman to marry him in the first place.
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11:48 <@Dolemite^> Yes, he volunteered the information regularly, as if being fixed increased his likelihood of hooking up with a woman
11:49 <@Dolemite^> Despite the fact that it was usually followed by the statement that the longest he'll date anyone that won't do anal is 6 months (not sure if it was 6 months or not, but he had a number)
11:54 <@RangerZ> real winner there
11:57 <@RangerZ> I don't know if I've ever actually met him or not, I remember watching the hackaday interview of 'his' hackerspace after that all blew up, when I first moved down here, and he seemed like an ass, but what really stuck out to me, was the insanely crowded/unsafe working conditions within the space
12:01 <@RangerZ> but I had just stopped working in a proper 50k sq.ft. lighting shop working as fab/repair
12:01 <@Mirage> The interview where he pretty much claimed to have created 2600 in nashville, phreaknic, etc, etc was a wonderful work of fiction that pissed off a bunch of ppl
12:02 <@Dolemite^> o.O
12:02 <@Dolemite^> I don't know that I ever heard that one
12:02 <@Dolemite^> Probably good that I didn't
12:02 <@RangerZ> it was a youtube video where he gave a 'guided tour' of the hackerspace
12:03 <@Mirage> Dolemite^: I think you just blocked it from your memory
12:03 <@RangerZ> it was either right after or even before I moved down here
12:03 <@Mirage> Dolemite^: It was that podcast interview thing he did
12:04 <@RangerZ> http://hackaday.com/2012/06/07/hackerspace-intro-hacker-consortium-in-nashville-tn/
12:04 < PigBot> Title: Hackerspace Intro: Hacker Consortium in Nashville TN | Hackaday (at hackaday.com) http://tinyurl.com/7vh3rfa
12:04 <@RangerZ> found it quite quickly actually
12:05 <@Mirage> RangerZ: not what i'm referring to
12:05 <@RangerZ> ohh
12:05 <@RangerZ> thats what I was
12:05 <@Dolemite^> I probably just didn't bother to listen to it because people kept telling me it would just piss me off
12:06 <@RangerZ> haha, thats amusing... 1,337 views
12:07 < _NSAKEY> I remember hearing about this.
12:07 < _NSAKEY> I know from looking at all the really old PhreakNIC pictures that he was actually in 1 pic from PhreakNIC 3.
12:08 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: You sound like you took the same attitude I did. Never met the guy, but he just oozes "I'm an ass and you shouldn't pay attention to me."
12:09 <@RangerZ> basically, I came down the first year there was a skydogcon, and I was like ... wow... that's a dick move
12:10 <@RangerZ> (holding it the same day)
12:10 < _NSAKEY> I googled PhreakNIC to see if the talks were being marketed/sounded like they were worth checking out, found out about SDC that year, and was just like "Nope, I'll let them sort the drama out first."
12:11 < _NSAKEY> Before that, my excuse for not attending was because I thought PN was held at the Days Inn Stadium, aka the no tell motel nearby that's made the news numerous times for bed bugs.
12:14 <@Dolemite^> Watching that hackaday video tour I just have to sit here and think...    where the hell did all of that stuff go when HC lost their space and dissolved?
12:15 <@RangerZ> my guess is NC
12:15 <@Dolemite^> NC?
12:15 < _NSAKEY> Wasn't there a bunch of drama because he took a bunch of stuff to HC that may or may not have been Nashville 2600's?
12:15 <@RangerZ> isn't that where he up and *poofed* to?
12:15 <@Dolemite^> My other observation is that the reason the servers are so loud is because they're too hot
12:15 < _NSAKEY> I've never gotten very much of that story, but have picked up that there was a dispute over equipment.
12:16 <@Dolemite^> He moved to Charleston, SC, for a while, but is now back in Nashville
12:16 <@RangerZ> SC* then
12:16 < _NSAKEY> Dolemite^: The fact that his con's attendance numbers actually dropped in the year he returned vs the year he was in SC tells me that he can be safely ignored.
12:16 <@Dolemite^> _NSAKEY: The issue was that when he was President, there was a large number of "petty cash" transactions with no receipts.
12:17 < _NSAKEY> I just sat through this video, and he didn't claim anything about starting Nashville 2600 or PN.
12:17 < _NSAKEY> Dolemite^: Oh, well that's problematic as hell.
12:17 <@Mirage> Was LM treasurer then?
12:17 <@Dolemite^> So it's less a case of "He took our stuff to HC!" and more a case of "He misappropriated our funds!"
12:17 <@Dolemite^> Mirage: Yes
12:17 <@Mirage> That's what I though.
12:17 <@Mirage> RangerZ: and he was also banging the Treasurer at the time
12:18 < _NSAKEY> Luckily, we don't have that kind of drama now. There are too many people who can say "No, fuck you. You're not doing that without feeling pain." for that sort of thing to happen.
12:18 <@Dolemite^> _NSAKEY: The video isn't what Mirage said he claimed to start Nashville 2600 & PhreakNIC in.  I think it was some podcast.
12:18 <@Dagmar> Just PN, not 2600
12:18 < _NSAKEY> Dolemite^: I clearly misunderstood that. I want my 9 minutes back.
12:18 <@Dagmar> If I'd seen him claiming he started 2600 here I'd have immediately and publicly called shens on that
12:19 <@Mirage> Dagmar: I cvould have sworn he'd claimed 2600 in Nashville as well, because that pissed off Maverick
12:19 <@Mirage> Of course if you ask Maverick, _HE_ started PN..or at least gave JX the idea for it.
12:20 < _NSAKEY> If it makes you guys feel any better, my understanding of SDC is that at this point, the only people who go are skydog's friends/drinking buddies, and over half the attendees are con staff.
12:21 <@Dolemite^> _NSAKEY: That's been my impression of it from the beginning
12:21 < _NSAKEY> Like, if people start bringing it up at board meetings, I'm going to say some permutation of, "That shit is irrelevant, we can safely ignore him."
12:21 < _NSAKEY> Dolemite^: But he went from having 70 people last year to more like 50 this year.
12:21 <@Dolemite^> So he has less friends
12:21 < _NSAKEY> As I said previously, last year he was in SC, this year he came back.
12:21 <@Dolemite^> He has just announced the dates for this year
12:21 < _NSAKEY> Therefore, he was around to do more organizing stuff and his numbers actually dropped.
12:22 <@Dolemite^> Now at the Embassy Suites in Cool Springs
12:22 < _NSAKEY> I wouldn't be surprised if he got some sucker to sugar daddy that one.
12:22 <@Dolemite^> Wait.  Did you just put "organizing" and "Skydog" in the same context?
12:22 < _NSAKEY> Probably someone who got outbid on the Wu Tang album.
12:23 <@Dolemite^> He probably can't get any more attention from the Hotel Preston after several years of underwhelming numbers
12:23 < _NSAKEY> Probably not.
12:23 <@RangerZ> also, lets not forget to point out the fucking self-centeredness to name the con after himself
12:23 < _NSAKEY> Plus, who knows what sort of asshattery his people engage in while there.
12:24 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: Amen to that. He's explained that away as someone else telling him to do that (I saw a video), but don't buy it.
12:24 <@Dolemite^> Yeah, naming a con after yourself is idiotic unless your name is Walt Disney
12:24 <@Mirage> RangerZ: which he claims was not his idea
12:24 <@RangerZ> even if someone else brings it up, you SHOULD shoot it down, and say "its not about me"
12:24 <@Dolemite^> Well, Scott Moulton has been up Skydog's ass for years for some reason.  He's the one that claims to have suggested the name.
12:25 <@RangerZ> hell by all rights a couple PN could have been 'Mr Angel Donor's personal con'(keeping his name out of this), but he had the decency to not be like that
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12:26 <@RangerZ> then of course you have rattle
12:26 < _NSAKEY> The story as I remember it was that he was told that people he would want to pull in knew who he was, and the name recognition would help.
12:26 <@RangerZ> I mean.... Hi there
12:26 <@RangerZ> lol
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12:27 <@Dolemite^> If people know who you are, then a phone call will be as effective at bringing them in.
12:28 <@Dolemite^> Or driving them away
12:28 < _NSAKEY> Dolemite^: Yeah, the reasoning didn't hold water. It's just blatant egotistical wankery.
12:28 <@Dolemite^> So everybody come to GeekNIC!
12:28 <@Dolemite^> We have zero organized talks.
12:28 <@Dagmar> heheh
12:29 < _NSAKEY> I actually briefly considered submitting a CFP and doing a talk just to get in for free and assess the attendance numbers myself, but decided that the trade-off would be too one-sided in his favor. That turned out to be right.
12:29 <@Dolemite^> We just show up, eat too much, drink too much, and cuss too much for an entire weekend.
12:33 <@Mirage> Dolemite^: be honest..the orgranization of GeekNIC stops at "OK, it's <date> weekend at <name> hotel."
12:34 <@Dolemite^> Mirage: You turds keep trying to get me to at least come up with a geek death march, too
12:34 < _NSAKEY> That's got to be incredibly nice.
12:34 <@Mirage> Dolemite^: yeah, but it's not like we actually go on the one that was tenatively planned for
12:34 <@Dolemite^> We did the first two times
12:34 <@Evilpig> there has to be at least a rough outline of a schedule or we're likely to all just show up and hang out and do nothing else
12:35 <@Dolemite^> Last time I just got my trails mixed up
12:35 <@oddball> Dolemite^: Because the death march is fun!
12:35 <@Evilpig> someone make bill stop talking to me!
12:35 <@Dolemite^> Evilpig: heaven forbid
12:35 <@Mirage> I still wanna got o the one with the ghost town
12:35 <@Dolemite^> That's the one I tried to do last time
12:35 <@Dolemite^> I will talk to a friend that has hiked there and get better details
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12:37 <@oddball> And yeah... when people ask me about Skydog (which actually happened the other day), I now tell them "well, he was part of running PN.  Was in fact *in charge* of PN for a while.  Is no longer welcome at PN.  Instantly ran out, started a new con named after himself and on the same weekend as PN.  Draw your own conclusions."
12:39 <@Dolemite^> http://www.hikinginthesmokys.com/littleriver.htm
12:39 < PigBot> Title: Little River Trail - Hike Little River Trail in Smoky Mountains (at www.hikinginthesmokys.com) http://tinyurl.com/n229xgm
12:39 < _NSAKEY> oddball: That sounds like you have about as much fun with it as I do explaining to people that crazypants is no longer welcome.
12:39 <@Dolemite^> That's the trail we were supposed to do last time
12:40 < _NSAKEY> s/do/did/, since I think everyone is on the same page now.
12:40 <@RangerZ> oddball: PM
12:40 <@oddball> just responded :p
12:41 < _NSAKEY> She actually tweeted at or about us a couple weeks ago, and it was everything I could do to not tweet at her from @Nashville2600 that it wouldn't matter if we were holding meetings across the street from her, she wouldn't be welcomed.
12:41 <@oddball> And I figure that it's a good idea to keep it short and things that no one can deny.
12:42 < _NSAKEY> oddball: That's why I bring up the reason she got blackballed from literally every non-PN con in town.
12:42 < _NSAKEY> ... And the shit she made up regarding the shipping crate joke, which I have IRC logs to refute. I've even gotten to send those out a couple of times.
12:42 <@Mirage> Dolemite^: Looking at the map of that immediate area, I think we did the "Elkmont Nature Trail" last time
12:43 <@Dolemite^> I believe you are correct, Mirage
12:43 < _NSAKEY> Mirage: Isn't the death march the trip to the hotel?
12:44 <@RangerZ> Dolemite^: question... the dates...
12:44 <@Dolemite^> _NSAKEY: depends on how much you drink
12:44 <@RangerZ> geeknic says march 20th
12:44  * Dolemite^ points at the topic
12:44 <@Dolemite^> Evilpig is our slacker webmaster
12:45 <@Dolemite^> He hasn't updated the web page.  He should have it done by May 12, I think.
12:45 <@Mirage> _NSAKEY: the year at Westgate it was the trek up the hill to the normal rooms
12:45 <@Dolemite^> They had golf cart shuttles
12:45 <@Dolemite^> You just had to wait like, forever, to get one
12:46 <@Evilpig> yeah yeah slacker, this... slacker that... bitch I have a life right now. sorta
12:46 <@Mirage> lies!@
12:47 <@Evilpig> I made a photoshop, and started to look at doing a website, then I just either didn't care or gave up.  it's really a toss up as to which happened
12:47 <@oddball> Westgate also had the issue that normal checkout was at 10am... and I think the most expensive hotel in town. :p
12:47 <@Dolemite^> oddball: No, there are much more expensive ones around
12:47 <@Evilpig> oddball: but they had a lazy river
12:48 <@Evilpig> or was that the other one
12:48 <@Dolemite^> Indoor heated water park
12:48 <@Mirage> That was the one
12:48 <@oddball> Ah, guess I'm always staying at the cheap ones, then.
12:49 <@Dolemite^> At the time of declaring it the hotel, they were the same price as the River Terrace.  However, as the date got closer, the price went up quite a bit.
12:49 <@oddball> gotcha
12:50 <@Dolemite^> But location-wise it was quite inconvenient
12:50 <@Evilpig> have y'all heard rob zombie's newest single?  it's odd....  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpahxNzC23U  I'm gonna say NSFW but it's rob zombie so what'd you expect
12:50 <@Mirage> I prefer River Terrace, personally, mostly due to location. (In Gatlinburg, beside the river, close to the aquarium, rooms not spread out too badly, etc)
12:50 <@oddball> Pretty, but inconvenient.
12:50 <@Dolemite^> Yeah, the location for River Terrace is hard to beat
12:50 <@oddball> Also, I'm probably going to force some pie on you guys.
12:50 <@Dolemite^> Oh darn
12:50 <@Evilpig> force?  lol  yeah right
12:50 <@Mirage> oddball: not if it has cinnamon
12:51 <@Evilpig> more of a struggle to get that bottle back
12:51 <@Dolemite^> I may need to brew a batch of ale
12:51 <@oddball> Yeah.  Naienko and I usually stay in the hotel on the other side of the aquarium.
12:51 <@oddball> Mirage: Oh, right.  I forgot that you're allergic.  No pie for you.
12:53 <@Dolemite^> *sigh*  meeting time
12:54 <@Mirage> On a sep note..customers are dumbasses.
12:55 <@oddball> Well... yes
12:57 <@Evilpig> Mirage: +1
13:01 <@Mirage> So, a customer put in a request to have SNMP installed and configured on 20 servers in 4 different datacenters and then, when asked for configuration details, only provided one community string and one contact, and is not suprised by the fact that they ALL were configured for the Community string for one of the datacenters and not each hosts' local datacenter.
13:03 <@Mirage> which I find all kinds of fun because all the servers were ALMOST sequentially numbered.   I haven't looked at masks, but that means that they either have a bunch of really small subnets or actually trunked a vlan through their WAN
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13:24 <@Mirage> has everyone in here gone to see Deadpool yet?
13:25 <@Evilpig> if they haven't it's their own fault.  spoiler away
13:27 <@Mirage> I was just wondering who sucked.
13:27  * oddball raises his hand
13:28 <@oddball> (I've seen it)
13:28 <@Mirage> I didn't get to go until this past Sat because the wife was working opening weekend.
13:28 <@Mirage> oddball: nope, you suck..you raised your hand!
13:28  * Mirage will tell Timball and Decius
13:28 <@oddball> I almost didn't see it.  We initially thought that we were flying down for the cruise on Friday night, not Saturday.
13:30 <@Mirage> Speaking of cruises..Carnival is one of our new customers..so of course the Sales rep and Account rep both tried to work out free cruises for themselves.
13:30 <@Mirage> Idiots
13:31 <@oddball> Not terribly surprised.
13:56 <@rattle> I was pleased with Deadpool.  They didn't fuck it up.
14:02 <@Evilpig> rattle: what are your thoughts on unicorn horn rubbing?
14:03 <@Evilpig> and that isn't an aestetix comment despite the tone
14:08 <@Evilpig> I was looking for the comment I had read about it someplace saying that they had to cut $7mil from teh budget which is why they ended up with a relatively unknown x-men character and an awful cgi colossus, but I can't find it now
14:13 <@oddball> Oh was that where the $7mil got cut from?
14:13 <@oddball> And I didn't think the CGI for Colossus was that bad.
14:14 <@Evilpig> thesuperficial said the ending fight scene was cut and the guns were constantly forgotten as part of the cut as well
14:14 <@Evilpig> he looked like plastic to me
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15:46 <@RangerZ> there was one scene where I couldn't tell if 'all' of Colossus was GCI or if it was inflated cloth/something (basically it looked bad for a few seconds)
15:47 <@RangerZ> but otherwise 'ehh'
15:47 <@RangerZ> the 'not having guns' thing is almost (and I say 'almost') as good as Montey Python's Grain having the cocunuts b/c they ran out of money and improvised
15:49 <@RangerZ> even with a larger budget, I wouldn't have wanted them to put too many xmen into this movie, other than perhaps cameo scene at the school.
15:53 <@RangerZ> also I like how they 'sorta' worked in the MCU into the end of Deadpool with the 'location'
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16:10 < aestetix> you know
16:10 < aestetix> it does not surprise me that Phylis Schlafly endorsed Trump
16:16 <@RangerZ> at this point... almost nothing surprises me
16:18 <@RangerZ> but I have an appreciation for 1930s Germany now
16:30 < aestetix> You mean how Trump is getting all this momentum, anyone with sense is a loser, and the activists are all worthless?
16:32 <@RangerZ> its so saddening that the 'middle' has thrown so much weight around to 'show how sanders isn't a -real- candidate'
16:34 <@RangerZ> like how 'liberal' MSNBC host Chris Mathews, who his wife has the same campaign donors as Clinton... kept on talking about how "He's a socialist, and not a democrat"
16:34 < aestetix> What is a democrat?
16:35 <@RangerZ> yeah, he was the presidential speech writer for carter
16:35 <@RangerZ> ohh nvm, you didn't ask 'is he a democrat'
16:36 <@RangerZ> thats the other thing he keeps on asking 'whats the difference between a socialist and a democrat'
16:36 <@RangerZ> and NO ONE has been able to answer him
16:36 < aestetix> it's the same thing everyone complained about with FDR
16:37 <@RangerZ> Sanders ignores the question after he thinks he answered it, but he doesn't 'bash' the democrats like hs 'should'
16:37 <@RangerZ> no, its not the same
16:37 <@RangerZ> THEN they said democrats were socialists
16:37 <@RangerZ> NOW, the democratic party doesn't know how to talk about it
16:37 <@RangerZ> b/c they don't want labeled socialist
16:37 < aestetix> that's because the label democrat means nothing
16:38 < aestetix> just like the label republican means nothing
16:38 <@RangerZ> despite the fact... http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/1/17/1471163/-Red-dawn-More-Iowa-Democratic-caucus-goers-identify-as-socialist-than-capitalist
16:38 < PigBot> Title: More Iowa Democratic caucus-goers identify as 'socialist' than 'capitalist' (at www.dailykos.com) http://tinyurl.com/h866swk
16:38 < aestetix> ted cruz is a baptist republican, trump is a nazi republican
16:39 <@RangerZ> anyone born after ...ohhh 1980 or so... doesn't give a rat's ass about 'socialist' unless they are a 'libertarian' (b/c they read ayn rand and want to make up excuses to why they want a "I got mine, fuck you all" economic policies)
16:40 <@RangerZ> actually I was thinking about this the other night
16:40 <@RangerZ> we need to frame the debate in terms of 'human rights'
16:40 <@RangerZ> it is a 'human right' to have medical care, education, high speed internet (I'm not kidding)
16:41 <@RangerZ> let alone food, shelter, and clothes
16:41 <@RangerZ> and its easy as hell to bypass the "how do you get around rationing"
16:42 <@RangerZ> "we adopt canada's system, but we allow you to pay for priority healthcare services that they don't, if you need a hip replacement and it would take 6 months under the healthcare system, but you have the cash to pay for it tomorrow, then go ahead, pay for it, all the more power to you"
16:43 <@RangerZ> There, Done, Overwith
16:43 <@RangerZ> and then ask... "So are you trying to tell me with a straight face that we don't have rationing right now by what the insurance companies will cover and won't cover?"
16:44 <@RangerZ> first fucking politican that does that will win the presidency
16:44 <@RangerZ> and I'm afraid that it'll be trump
16:44 <@RangerZ> Sanders doesn't play dirty like that (I don't consider it 'dirty'... but ehh)
16:45 <@RangerZ> and everyone else has MAJOR campaign sponsors/investors (I'm sorry, are we suppose to call them 'donors'?) from the medical industry
16:48 <@RangerZ> because "we're suppose to be the greatest nation on earth", so why can't we take the 'good' parts of Canada's, UK's, our current System's healthcare systems... and then combine them together
16:57 <@RangerZ> but here is the problem... I'm 'more' of a democrat than a republican... (2010s terms)
16:57 <@RangerZ> but I'm -really- a pragmatist...
17:01 <@Evilpig> 1GB update to my shield.  getting android 6 on it
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18:51 <@RangerZ> FML I just pulled a ben... sorta
18:51 <@RangerZ> I set the default for a new VM to be the sdk directory
18:51 <@RangerZ> apparently it 'wipes' that directory
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19:05 <@RangerZ> here is a question... if someone hacks a site, and changes a OSS's license, would a 3rd party be legally 'okay' with using the 'wrong' license?
19:05 <@RangerZ> I'd assume there has to be a level of 'good faith' on the part of the 3rd party
19:06 <@RangerZ> so grabbing a torrent of MSFT WIN 10 code, wouldn't "work" (legally) even if it said BSD license, lol
19:11 <@RangerZ> but if someone stealth changed some OSS project from GPL2/3 to 'do whatever you want'
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19:48 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: You mean like the Free license or WTFPL?
19:53 <@RangerZ> WTFPL
19:53 <@RangerZ> but honestly it doesn't matter
19:54 <@RangerZ> the 'concept' is more of what I'm curious about
19:55 < _NSAKEY> The only real difference between the Free license and WTFPL is that WTFPL has ruder language.
19:55 < _NSAKEY> They accomplish the same thing.
19:55 <@RangerZ> but you get my point
19:55 < _NSAKEY> Yeah.
19:56 <@RangerZ> if you can 'agree to a TOS' via clicking a novel length 'legal contract' '
19:56 <@RangerZ> like 1000 people gave away their 'undying soul' one april first
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20:09 <@oddball> Has a click through TOS ever been challenged and upheld in court?
20:15 < _NSAKEY> http://fox17.com/news/local/man-found-naked-inside-nashville-international-airport
20:15 < PigBot> Title: Man strips down, waits in line at Nashville International Airport | News, Weather, Sports, Breaking News | WZTV (at fox17.com) http://tinyurl.com/jowjos3
20:17 < aestetix> wow
20:17 < aestetix> http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/23/technology/fcc-internet-access-school.html?_r=0
20:17 < PigBot> "Couldn't snarf url: HTTP Error 302: The HTTP server returned a redirect error that would lead to an infinite loop.\nThe last 30x error message was:\nFound. Error"
20:17 < aestetix> That article is deeply disturbing to me.
20:23 < _NSAKEY> Here's another local story for you guys. http://www.nashvillescene.com/pitw/archives/2016/02/22/should-we-let-this-kook-sanction-tennessees-church-schools
20:23 < PigBot> _NSAKEY: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 20480 bytes.
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22:18 <@RangerZ> Evilpig: your bot is broke again, no tinyurl
22:22 <@RangerZ> when you have to fight over your definition of fucking 'what type of confederate pro-slavery asshat' you are
22:23 <@RangerZ> ....you got 99 problems... and verbal accuracy isn't one of them
22:31 <@RangerZ> "armies can't solve slavery"
22:31 <@RangerZ> fuck this asshat
22:32 <@RangerZ> you know... WW2 and the Civil War are basically *THE* examples of when armies SHOULD be used
22:46 <@RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv-8xtgpjV8
22:46 < PigBot> Title: Las Vegas Caucus Ends Before Delegates Chosen, Chaos Erupts - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/z7zegft
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23:17 <@RangerZ> you know... I really need to never use reddit
23:18 <@RangerZ> I enrage people, by being the [the best kind of 'right' -> technically]
23:21  * RangerZ grew up around too many doctors, lawyers, and politicians
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