--- Log opened Fri Feb 19 00:00:23 2016 00:17 -!- Catonic [~catonic@adsl-98-83-117-51.bhm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 00:17 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Catonic] by ChanServ 00:27 < _NSAKEY> This is some good satire. http://thevalleyreport.com/2015/08/30/woman-stabs-boyfriend-for-not-liking-instagram-selfie-fast-enough/ 00:28 <@RangerZ> I have bad news for you _NSAKEY that site isn't satire 00:28 <@RangerZ> that really happened ;? 00:28 <@RangerZ> :/ 00:28 <@RangerZ> hehe 00:29 <@RangerZ> because I could see someone from Canton doing that 00:29 <@RangerZ> also... Its amazing realizing that blowing your nose -works again- ... b/c fuck mild cold/flu+ sinuses acting up 00:51 <@RangerZ> http://arstechnica.com/science/2016/02/idaho-bill-calls-for-bible-in-schools-for-astronomy-biology-geology/ 00:51 < PigBot> Title: Idaho bill calls for Bible in schools for astronomy, biology, geology | Ars Technica (at arstechnica.com) http://tinyurl.com/j28b8en 00:51 <@RangerZ> I fear for our country sometimes (Often) 01:15 < aestetix> so is it just me 01:16 < aestetix> or at some point did tech turn from "some things have a low learning curve, others a high one" into "anything that is not easy is bad" 01:41 <@RangerZ> I dunno, I think its more of the 'convention over configuration' nonsense 01:41 <@RangerZ> gradle for example, is that way, and honeslty, its almost as bad an idea as DUCT typing 01:41 <@RangerZ> Sure, both can save you some time/let you be lazy when you are starting out 01:42 <@RangerZ> but it limits you in the future 01:42 < aestetix> I am thinking more of the github announcement 01:42 < aestetix> when did learning how to use git become such a horrible thing? 01:43 <@RangerZ> haven't read it 01:43 <@RangerZ> but 'prototypical inheritance' is also on my shitlist 01:43 < aestetix> github now allows you to drag/drop files onto the browser and it gets auto-committed 01:43 <@RangerZ> since I feel like ranting about BS i've had to deal with lately 01:43 <@RangerZ> ohh 01:43 <@RangerZ> thats fine 01:44 < aestetix> Which is fine. But it doesn't mean that using the traditional git method is bad. 01:44 <@RangerZ> web-gme does that (great project btw, if you got a few minuts to play around with) 01:44 <@RangerZ> it commits 'every action' you do in the browser 01:44 <@RangerZ> that way there is a history/forever rollback 01:44 < aestetix> It's just like something I started to encounter where "developers" were afraid to write their own SQL code. They are totally reliant on the ORM 01:45 <@RangerZ> 'afraid' or 'lazy' ? 01:45 < aestetix> afraid 01:45 <@RangerZ> ORM is generally a better solution for 'time' 01:45 <@RangerZ> hmm 01:45 < aestetix> In that if someone else writes sql code, they freak out and try to stop them 01:45 < aestetix> They usually mutter some bullshit about SQL injection 01:46 <@RangerZ> well, I think they are 'right', but for different reasons than you are thinking 01:46 <@RangerZ> format shifts like that should never be hand-written 01:46 <@RangerZ> but 'queries', etc. thats a different question 01:46 < aestetix> I understand where they are coming from, but it shouldn't be a fhard and fast rule 01:47 <@RangerZ> if it is just a CRUD operation then yes, no human intervention should exist, but complex things still need TLC 01:47 < aestetix> It's more that they don't undetstand something, so they are trying to prevent someone else who does undetrsteand it from going it 01:47 < aestetix> doing* 01:47 <@RangerZ> perhaps all these people just think YOU suck at SQL ;) 01:47 <@RangerZ> hehe 01:48 <@RangerZ> also... from the 'wtf news dept' : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihtPbyPkFv4 01:48 < PigBot> Title: Blade Runner 2 Gets 2018 Release Date - IGN News - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/jlstgnd 01:51 < aestetix> why are they making a sql to blade runner? 01:52 <@RangerZ> $ 01:53 < aestetix> did PKD ever write a sequal? 01:53 <@RangerZ> and they ran out of other ideas 01:53 <@RangerZ> apparently somewhat, and they got 'most' of the original crew back 01:53 < aestetix> I love how hollywood can't come up with a new idea to save their live, but all these new series are coming up on netflix/etc 01:54 <@RangerZ> the same is true with Video Games 01:55 <@RangerZ> Call of Duty, Assassin's creed, Madden, NBA, etc... 01:55 <@RangerZ> they are all yearly franchises at this point 01:55 <@RangerZ> (well AC is skipping this year) 01:56 <@RangerZ> it is just what happens when giant corporations take over development of media 01:57 <@RangerZ> they stick with 'sure bets', and only produce 'art house'-like media when they feel like it 01:58 < aestetix> hasn't madden been a franchise for like 20 years? 01:58 <@RangerZ> ohh nvm, i re-listened to that video, apparently the screenplay is the brainchild of Scott and the film's co-creator 01:58 <@RangerZ> 25+ years now 01:59 <@RangerZ> its just a good example of 'yearly franchise' 02:02 <@RangerZ> aestetix: if you ever needed a system to auto-deploy configurations to hundreds+ machines https://editor.webgme.org/ great tool... problem is ... learning how to use it... 02:02 < PigBot> Title: WebGME (at editor.webgme.org) http://tinyurl.com/h6suk4c 02:02 <@RangerZ> https://webgme.org/ 02:02 < PigBot> Title: WebGME (at webgme.org) http://tinyurl.com/hzl2ram 02:02 <@RangerZ> there, right link 02:03 < aestetix> penis 02:56 <@RangerZ> fucking pope.... http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/18/health/zika-pope-francis-contraceptives/ 02:56 < PigBot> Title: Pope suggests contraceptives OK to slow Zika - CNN.com (at www.cnn.com) http://tinyurl.com/hqzq3m5 02:56 <@RangerZ> Pope Francis aint got no time for this 04:29 < aestetix> NotLarry should do a grope-in at PhreakNIC 05:00 < aestetix> ok wtf 05:00 < aestetix> http://www.dailydot.com/politics/encryption-debate-surveillance-minorities-race/ 05:00 < PigBot> Title: Minorities and women largely shut out of encryption debate (at www.dailydot.com) http://tinyurl.com/hqsqcbt 05:23 <@RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGkpPp2tGSs 05:23 < PigBot> Title: Khronos Group Vulkan Webinar - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/jjxn7mr 05:23 <@RangerZ> This is actually really informative 05:24 <@RangerZ> Ubuntu and redhat, along with Steam/SteamOS, and Android are all going to support vulkan officially 05:25 <@RangerZ> basically only Apple hasn't announced support for Vulkan 05:30 <@RangerZ> aestetix: leave him alone, he's just trying to prove his feminist 'standing' 05:31 <@RangerZ> how else is he going to get laid out on the coast? 05:33 <@RangerZ> because that is a MAD-LIB article on anything that 'can' target minorities 05:34 <@RangerZ> he just inserted 'surveillance' and went 'go' 07:57 -!- jaake [~h4ckm3@129.59.122.17] has joined #se2600 07:58 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: zzz] 08:15 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 08:15 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 08:22 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: zzz] 08:25 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 08:25 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 08:32 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 08:33 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: zzz] 08:36 * aestetix hugs Dolemite 08:40 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 08:40 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 08:40 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Client Quit] 09:19 -!- jaake [~h4ckm3@129.59.122.17] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:32 -!- jaake [~h4ckm3@129.59.122.17] has joined #se2600 --- Log closed Fri Feb 19 10:30:41 2016 --- Log opened Fri Feb 19 10:30:50 2016 10:30 -!- Evilpig [~wilpig@wilpig.org] has joined #se2600 10:30 -!- Irssi: #se2600: Total of 40 nicks [16 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 24 normal] 10:30 !adams.freenode.net [freenode-info] please register your nickname...don't forget to auto-identify! http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 10:30 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Evilpig] by ChanServ 10:30 -!- Irssi: Join to #se2600 was synced in 12 secs 11:07 -!- NoFault [~NoFault@c-174-49-14-188.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:08 -!- jaake [~h4ckm3@129.59.122.17] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:11 -!- NoFault [~NoFault@c-174-49-14-188.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 11:22 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 11:22 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 11:23 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Client Quit] 11:30 -!- jaake [~h4ckm3@129.59.122.17] has joined #se2600 11:44 -!- NoFault1 [~NoFault@174.49.14.188] has joined #se2600 11:47 -!- NoFault [~NoFault@c-174-49-14-188.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:00 -!- jaake [~h4ckm3@129.59.122.17] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:19 <@Mirage> holy crap it's quiet in here today. holiday i don't know about? 12:19 <@Dagmar> It's Free Murder Day 12:20 <@Mirage> I know that's not true because you're responding. If it were, the list of Comcast employees alone would be longer than could be done in a day w/o the use of tactical nukes 12:25 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: dasunt, @Feltenix, ladymerlin 12:25 -!- ladymerlin [ladymerlin@mail.bbis.us] has joined #se2600 12:25 -!- Netsplit over, joins: dasunt 12:27 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: cyberanger, Healix, @opticron, kamikazejoe, giezr, Guest58558 12:27 -!- Netsplit over, joins: giezr, opticron 12:27 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o opticron] by ChanServ 12:27 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Guest58558 12:27 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Healix 12:28 -!- Netsplit over, joins: cyberanger 12:28 -!- kamikazejoe [~kamikazej@24-207-222-83.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #se2600 12:31 -!- Feltenix [~conrad@107-205-72-249.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 12:31 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Feltenix] by ChanServ 12:31 < aestetix> http://mashable.com/2016/02/19/yahoo-admits-what-everybody-already-know-it-s-looking-to-sell/ 12:31 < PigBot> Title: One of the most powerful Internet companies is officially for sale (at mashable.com) http://tinyurl.com/jyloqj7 12:34 < _NSAKEY> I bet Yahoo won't get 4.4 billion for assets that are worth less than nothing. 12:34 < aestetix> Evilpig: might want to sell your stock soon 12:34 < _NSAKEY> The shareholders are probably wishing they had sold to Microsoft. 12:34 <@Dagmar> I've got ten thousand to throw at them 12:35 <@Dagmar> ...although I suspect that's a bit higher than they're worth. 12:35 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: The last time I heard anything about it, Yahoo's non-Alibaba business is so worthless that they would have to pay someone to take it away from them. 12:36 < aestetix> they have a non alibaba business? 12:36 < aestetix> I mean they have a sports thing, and a crap news site... 12:36 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: They have things they own that aren't alibaba. 12:36 < _NSAKEY> Yahoo Japan is still worth something, I think. 12:37 <@Dagmar> I could turn them around. 12:37 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: By firing everyone, turning off all the servers, and selling yahoo.com (The domain) to the highest bidder? 12:38 <@Dagmar> The first step would be to set up a contract with ACME Farm Supply, and then a contract with one of those companies specializing in oil-surface painting. 12:38 <@Dagmar> The second step would be to open a new e-Commerce site that sells pitchforks and torches decorated with the American Flag. 12:38 <@Dagmar> There is no need for a third step. 12:38 <@Dagmar> Fourth step: Profit. 12:39 < aestetix> you know they should make crazypants the new CEO of yahoo 12:39 <@Dagmar> As a sideline, we could also sell pooper scoopers emblazoned with the RNC and DNC logos 12:39 <@Dagmar> Those would have to be sold through Alibaba 12:40 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: She would just prepare unreasonably stupid contracts at businesses where her relatives work and cause the cash drain to happen even faster, while alienating everyone and their dog who is still desperate enough to work there. 12:44 <@Mirage> Dagmar: apparently you could probably make some good money selling pooper scoopers and pool nets with the olympic symbol and "Rio 2016" emplazoned on them. 12:48 -!- jaake [~h4ckm3@129.59.122.17] has joined #se2600 12:52 <@Mirage> aestetix: too bad.. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35611906 12:52 < PigBot> Title: Sex with animals remains banned in Germany as legal bid fails - BBC News (at www.bbc.com) http://tinyurl.com/gn46lrk 13:03 <@Mirage> http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20160212-are-you-a-secret-ginger 13:03 < PigBot> Title: BBC - Future - Are you a secret ginger? (at www.bbc.com) http://tinyurl.com/gl6wvqh 13:22 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 13:22 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 14:55 -!- jaake [~h4ckm3@129.59.122.17] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] --- Log closed Fri Feb 19 15:26:51 2016 --- Log opened Fri Feb 19 15:26:59 2016 15:26 -!- Evilpig [~wilpig@wilpig.org] has joined #se2600 15:26 -!- Irssi: #se2600: Total of 40 nicks [17 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 23 normal] 15:26 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Evilpig] by ChanServ 15:27 -!- Irssi: Join to #se2600 was synced in 13 secs --- Log closed Fri Feb 19 15:47:26 2016 --- Log opened Fri Feb 19 15:47:33 2016 15:47 -!- Evilpig [~wilpig@wilpig.org] has joined #se2600 15:47 -!- Irssi: #se2600: Total of 40 nicks [17 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 23 normal] 15:47 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Evilpig] by ChanServ 15:47 -!- Irssi: Join to #se2600 was synced in 10 secs 15:54 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: zzz] 16:01 -!- opticron [~opticron@75.76.51.46] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:02 -!- opticron [~opticron@75.76.51.46] has joined #se2600 16:02 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o opticron] by ChanServ 16:06 < dfused> FUCK CenturyLink 17:12 <@sasquatc4> uggh, yea, definitely time to start lookin for a new job. The directors had all the leads in a full day meeting, gave them a list of 70 something projects that they had never seen before and actually expected them to come out with a years worth of estimates on those projects 17:16 <@sasquatc4> either the directors are completely incompetent in expecting that to work, or they are completely childish and wanted to punish the leads and show them 'hey our job isnt that easy' 17:16 <@sasquatc4> in either case they are incompetent 18:03 -!- Catonic [~catonic@adsl-98-83-117-51.bhm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:09 -!- Catonic [~catonic@adsl-98-83-116-114.bhm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 20:09 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Catonic] by ChanServ 20:56 -!- Feltenix [~conrad@107-205-72-249.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:56 -!- Feltenix [~conrad@107-205-72-249.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 20:56 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Feltenix] by ChanServ 21:23 <@RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZo97nFS9GU 21:23 < PigBot> Title: Bernie Sanders on Persian Gulf War (1/17/1991) - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/juvumf2 21:23 <@RangerZ> just posted on Bernie Sander's youtube account 22:36 <@RangerZ> "could crush" hahaha... http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/02/19/comcasts-new-modem-could-crush-google-fiber.aspx 22:36 < PigBot> Title: Comcast's New Modem Could Crush Google Fiber -- The Motley Fool (at www.fool.com) http://tinyurl.com/gmwuowp 22:37 <@RangerZ> People don't hate comcast 'only' because of the speed 22:37 * RangerZ points to Dagmar and the BS he has had(still having?) to go through when he switched apartments 'inside' the same copmlex 23:39 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 23:39 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ --- Log closed Sat Feb 20 00:00:25 2016