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09:32 <@RangerZ> so this might be a stupid question... but is there any ad company out there that actually vets its ads? and is "safe" to not block?
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11:41 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: I think Stack Exchange is actually vetting their ads, but they also don't care if you block them.
11:42 <@RangerZ> I was thinking of throwing some ads up on a couple of my sites, and moving them off free hosting
11:42 <@RangerZ> but I want to make them revenue neutral, I get enough visitors to make it 'possible' with ~100 or less a year hosting
11:42 < _NSAKEY> How much traffic are you getting?
11:42 <@RangerZ> depending on ads
11:43 <@RangerZ> couple hundred visits a day, when I make content
11:44 <@RangerZ> hobby sites, etc. nothing major
11:44 <@RangerZ> but I wanted to put ads up that I myself could 'promote' as being 'safe'
11:44 <@RangerZ> and honestly 'affiliate' ads seem to be the only idea I can come up with
11:49 < _NSAKEY> I got almost lucky with a personal site I run.
11:49 < _NSAKEY> It's a wiki that aggregates public records searches, and I could have gotten paid a flat fee by some industry types to put banners up.
11:49 < _NSAKEY> I decided at $5 a month, it wasn't worth cluttering up the wiki.
12:01 <@RangerZ> yeah, but the site I make has adult content, the video cameras all over Evilpig's apartment stream 24/7 for the subcribers, its hard to get advertising for that kinda content
12:01 <@RangerZ> Kosher-ads.net refused me, saying something about too much pork
12:04 < dfused> wow
12:05 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: insidethecrate.net?
12:05 <@rattle> Let me know what you find out..  Memestreams stopped being revenue/opex balanced a year or two ago, and I haven't had any time to actually come up with a solution or care.
12:06 <@RangerZ> dfused: try writing a fiction novel, it helps with your creativity
12:07 < dfused> i dont wanna
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12:18 <@RangerZ> _NSAKEY: I don't know what that is... and I'm afraid to find out...
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12:29 < dfused> jaake from state farm is back....
12:30 < dfused> hrmf....oklahoma gets a nice 5.1 earthquake
12:30 < dfused> thats cause their god hates them
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12:32 <@RangerZ> dfused: that and fracking water is lubricating fault lines that haven't moved in thousands of years
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12:33 < dfused> no
12:33 < dfused> its cause them and kansas are an abomonation of what christianity is supposed to be and god is tryin gto let them know
12:33 <@RangerZ> because fracking water has an exception from the Clean Water act, that allows them to not have to disclose what god-aweful chemicals they are dumping into the ground
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12:34 <@RangerZ> dfused: show me a definition that separates 'a cult' from 'a religion' and I'll show you what christianity 'is suppose to be'
12:34 < dfused> meh
12:35  * dfused flicks peanuts @ RangerZ 
12:35 < dfused> just trying to crack a joke not get into a political/theological discussion...
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12:36 <@RangerZ> well at least we can all agree on one thing
12:37 <@RangerZ> christiantiy at least lets you eat pork
13:21 < Synx_hm_> Dolemite: you building it?
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14:40 < aestetix_> man
14:40 < aestetix_> I keep reading things like this
14:40 < aestetix_> https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/45kqiv/im_a_single_dad_seeing_if_i_am_able_to_afford_my/
14:40 < PigBot> Title: Im a Single dad seeing if I am able to afford my current living situation by myself comfortably? I will have to cover full rent $1,230 instead of 715. : personalfinance (at www.reddit.com) http://tinyurl.com/zunzhvc
14:40 < aestetix_> It's amazing how much men get fucked over in divorce now
14:48 < _NSAKEY> Now?
14:48 < _NSAKEY> What rock have you been under?
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15:43 < aestetix_> ok so
15:44 < aestetix_> if prices keep going up everywhere
15:44 < aestetix_> where does the money go?
15:44 < aestetix_> is the value of the dollar falling? and if so, is another currency rising?
15:52 < _NSAKEY> http://thenextweb.com/shareables/2016/02/12/this-nigerian-scam-is-literally-out-of-this-world/
15:54 <@sasquatc4> RangerZ, i think the chemicals also depends on the state, pretty sure here they still have to disclose whats in them. In general they arent harmful, however the majority of issues that arrise from fracking all come from the same single point of failure which is their pumping connections. Those are the things leaking shit where it shouldnt be
15:55 <@sasquatc4> went to a fracking talk with the SO's women in mining group who had a fracking engineer, so she went over the whole process and it was obvious where one point of failure would lie, so I asked her about it
15:55 <@sasquatc4> and she said 'oh yea that almost never happens'
15:55 <@sasquatc4> low and behold not one month later there was a report that that point fails all the time
16:09 < aestetix_> oh wow
16:09 < aestetix_> Apparently Scalia is dead
16:09 < aestetix_> http://thescoopblog.dallasnews.com/2016/02/supreme-court-justice-antonin-scalia-reported-dead.html/
16:09 < PigBot> Title: Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia reported dead | | Dallas Morning News (at thescoopblog.dallasnews.com) http://tinyurl.com/js7ozg5
16:14 <@sasquatc4> grrr, when a link to an article with graphic says 'read the story', and you click it and a tiny paragraph with a video shows up, it angries up the blood
16:15 <@sasquatc4> i really miss text news articles
16:16 < aestetix_> sasquatc4: I miss news.
16:31 < _NSAKEY> aestetix_: A supreme court nominee battle in an election year? This is going to be golden.
16:34 < _NSAKEY> As if this election wasn't already enough of a shit show...
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16:42 < Synx_hm> Dolemite: you get the thing with the thing yet?
16:43 < Synx_hm> there is no way in hell i am pluging that usb key thingy into my computer
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16:52 < Synx_hm> im going to guess that Dolemite did in fact get the laser machine today and is now blind, soon i will reach the same state
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19:06 < Synx_hm> ?
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19:31 < aestetix_> http://www.deathball.net/notpron
19:31 < PigBot> Title: Notpron by David Münnich - The Hardest Riddle Available on the Internet (at www.deathball.net) http://tinyurl.com/4unal
19:31 < aestetix_> if you haven't seen this
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20:04 <@rattle> I met Justice Scalia when I was young.  I asked him what the hardest case he ever presided over was.  He said that it had to do with jurisdictional issues and that I wouldn't understand in an extrememly condsending way.  Total asshole.
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20:09 < dfused> fuck that guy.... his kids are prolly glad hes dead too
20:09 < dfused> and is dog
20:09 < dfused> his
20:09 < _NSAKEY> rattle: How much of a titanic shit show do you think we're in for now that there's a supreme court seat open during an election year?
20:10 <@rattle> The Senate battle over confirmation is going to be a cluster fuck.
20:15 < _NSAKEY> I can totally see this coming up in Republican debates, since they're still holding those regularly.
20:30 < aestetix_> _NSAKEY: you know there is one going on right now, right?
20:32 <@RangerZ> oh damn... scalia died
20:32 <@RangerZ> so THAT is what rattle was talkingabout
20:33  * RangerZ just woke up from 4 hour 'nap'
20:33 <@RangerZ> and was really out of it for a few minutes
20:35 < aestetix_> hahahhaa
20:35 < aestetix_> trump is hilarious
20:38 <@RangerZ> its sad that Trump is the only person who will say "you know 9/11 happened during Bush's time"
20:39 <@RangerZ> aestetix_: you ever worked with gradle CI ?
20:40 <@RangerZ> (or anyone else for that matter)
20:40 < aestetix_> yes
20:40 < aestetix_> unfortunately
20:40 < _NSAKEY> aestetix_:
20:41 < _NSAKEY> I learned that from Twitter, not long after typing that.
20:42 <@RangerZ> any tips for how to reduce network thrashing of dependancies?
20:43 <@RangerZ> or just manual copying over of them into gradle's cache?
20:44 < aestetix_> network thrashing? you mean where it has to download dependencies over and over?
20:45 <@RangerZ> yeah
20:46 < aestetix_> right, so it's likely using an environmental variable to determine the dependency location
20:46 < aestetix_> so figure out where that is :)
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21:08 <@RangerZ> rattle: do you think the republicans are actually going to .... ohh nevermind... they will just do whatever they can do 'harm obama'
21:10 < aestetix_> man this debate is great
21:12 < _NSAKEY> aestetix_: Have they started acting like they're in an 80s wrestling promotion yet?
21:13 < dfused> ooooooyeeeaaaahhhhh.....heh
21:13 < aestetix_> no promotion about it
21:13 < aestetix_> it's straight up blood
21:31 < aestetix_> this is awesome
21:41 <@rattle> This situation is going to swing back and forth from amusing as hell to fustrating as hell like a pendulum.
21:42 < aestetix_> rattle: someone needs to tell the GOP to stop feeding the troll
21:43 <@rattle> aestetix_: Close, but not quite right.  The public needs to stop feeding the trolls in the GOP.
21:43 <@rattle> I wonder what Harriet Miers and Robert Bork are up to right now..
21:43 < aestetix_> heh
21:43 < aestetix_> rattle: well you could always ask to see Bork's video rental records ;)
21:46 <@rattle> I feel bad for the republicans right now.  The death of Scalia probably has the same impact on them as it would to Japaneese teenage girls if Hello Kitty died..
21:51 <@RangerZ> https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/justice-scalias-death-increases-urgency-of-social-issues-in-2016-race/2016/02/13/eeb3ce0c-d2aa-11e5-88cd-753e80cd29ad_story.html
21:51 < aestetix_> Bush needs to see a speech therapist.
21:51 < PigBot> Title: Justice Scalia’s death increases urgency of social issues in 2016 race - The Washington Post (at www.washingtonpost.com) http://tinyurl.com/jtnzmkz
21:53 < dfused> increases urgency? wha a load of shit... the urgency was there before teh fucker died
21:53 <@RangerZ> God I _hope_ the GOP runs on "conservative social issues" ... like no abortion even in the case of saving the mother's life or rape, allowing gays to be disciminated against, promoting abstinence only, and letting people discriminate against blacks, hispanics.. oh wait... are we suppose to say that publicly?
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22:05 <@RangerZ> so I love how two cuban-americans are fighting on tv about who can speak spanish or not
22:05 <@RangerZ> I hope these guys all stay in
22:06 <@RangerZ> a brokered convention would be amazing to watch
22:32 < aestetix_> penis
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23:08 <@RangerZ> https://twitter.com/billjanovitz/status/698639804381163521
23:09 <@RangerZ> [I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure. - Clarence Darrow ]
23:30 <@Dagmar> Well I replaced the shower valve for Audra
23:30 <@Dagmar> ...and damn if the new one didn't _immediately_ fail
23:31 <@Dagmar> Tomorrow I'm going to see about replacing the valve stem assembly with one made of freakin' brass instead of nylon
23:37 <@Dagmar> Any of you guys ever tried that before?
23:38 <@RangerZ> eah
23:38 <@RangerZ> yeah*
23:38 <@RangerZ> the job will really depend on how easy your access to the wall is
23:39 <@Dagmar> It looks like multiple different stems could be screwed into the reciever
23:39 <@RangerZ> is it just the valve? or do you have to replace the pipes beyond the wall ?
23:40 <@Dagmar> I can't replace the entire assembly without cutting the drywall
23:40 <@RangerZ> then it shouldn't be too hard
23:41 <@RangerZ> just make sure to use plumbers tape
23:41 <@Dagmar> Well, this thing came with washers that were sufficient
23:42 <@RangerZ> ... "yeah" ... I still wouldn't trust that
23:44 <@RangerZ> but just tell her to no 'crank' the handle, because my step-dad ruins the washers in valves by doing that
23:44 < aestetix_> ok Dagmar question for you
23:45 <@Dagmar> Well, what's in the wall is _very_ similar to this https://www.doitbest.com/products/sterling-washerless-tub-and-shower-repair-kit?sku=413976
23:45 < aestetix_> I have a system with a NIC and I want to bridge a virtual device to it
23:45 < PigBot> Title: Sterling Washerless Tub And Shower Repair Kit. - Do it Best (at www.doitbest.com) http://tinyurl.com/z8sasru
23:45 <@Dagmar> Note that pretty much all the important parts are freaking nylon
23:45 < aestetix_> I start out with the NIC having ip X, the virtual device having ip X, and the guide I am reading tells me to clear out the ip on the NIC, so only the virtual device has the ip X
23:45 < aestetix_> and then bridge them together
23:45 < aestetix_> every time I do this, it kills my network
23:46 <@Dagmar> You start with the actual NIC having no IP
23:46 <@Dagmar> You create the virtual bridge device
23:46 < aestetix_> ok
23:46 <@Dagmar> ...then you put the actual NIC interface into the bridge, as well as the virtual NIC device
23:47 <@RangerZ> he did it to the fucking shutoff for the house they used to live in... causing them to have to call the water company to shut off the main so they could replace the one inside the house :/
23:47 <@Dagmar> When you assign the IP for the "real" NIC you do this to the _bridge_ device
23:48 < aestetix_> for some reason the system seems to be setting the IP address on the real NIC when I start out
23:48 < aestetix_> I have attempted to fix this in /etc/networking/* but it won't work
23:48 <@Dagmar> Completely disable anythign that assigns an IP to the real eth0/ens3p1
23:49 <@Dagmar> If you're using a distro that has networkmanager (a NEW version, not an old one because they're buggy and fuck it up) you can do this with four commands
23:50 < aestetix_> ok
23:50 <@Dagmar> nmcli con add type bridge-slave autoconnect yes con-name wired-network ifname enp3s0(eth0 or whatevs) master br0
23:50 <@Dagmar> nmcli con add type bridge autoconnect yes con-name bridge ifname br0
23:51 <@Evilpig> aestetix_: what do your scripts in /etc/networking look like?
23:51 <@Evilpig> and what is your host OS ?
23:51 <@Dagmar> nmcli con add type ethernet con-name wired-network ifname enp3s0
23:51 <@Dagmar> ...and then nmcli con modify bridge ipv4.method auto
23:51 < aestetix_> Evilpig: ubuntu
23:51 <@Dagmar> You literally run dhclient on the br0 bridge device
23:51 < aestetix_> Evilpig: and I would show you but I'm locked out of the system :/
23:52 <@Evilpig> one sec. i'll giv eyou working configs
23:52 < aestetix_> What's pissing me off is that the guy who set this up, left me a bunch of ansible playbooks that clearly do not work.
23:52 < aestetix_> ok
23:52 <@Dagmar> ouch
23:52 < aestetix_> It took me a day or two to narrow the issue down to the network to begin with.
23:52 <@Dagmar> Maybe someone will make an interface for that that's as easy as virt-manager
23:52 <@Dagmar> For _sure_ the moment you try and assign an IP to the actual/real NIC, you're fucking screwed
23:53 <@Dagmar> An IP literally can't exist on it the moment it's a slave to a bridge device
23:53 < aestetix_> The irony is that normally I would test this out on a staging system to make things easier.... but I am trying to SET UP a staging system
23:54 <@Evilpig> aestetix_: http://wilpig.org/temp/interfaces
23:54 < PigBot> Couldn't snarf url: HTTP Error 404: Not Found. http://tinyurl.com/z4pngdz
23:54 <@Evilpig> this is straight from my ubuntu server with two bridges that come up with the system
23:54 < aestetix_> so that bridge-ports command, does it do the same thing that ovs-vsctl add-port does?
23:55 <@Dagmar> God only knows
23:55 <@Evilpig> ovs is for a virtual switch.
23:55 < aestetix_> ok
23:55 <@Evilpig> bridge-ports is the same thing that brctl does
23:55 < aestetix_> I'm trying to set up a xen host
23:56 < aestetix_> and let's just say it has not been fun
23:56 <@Evilpig> that's on my kvm host which is just about the same
23:56 <@Dagmar> I dont' doubt that for a second
23:56 <@Dagmar> This shit is _particularly_ confusing
23:56 <@Evilpig> br0 is the one that all my virtual hosts use
23:56 <@Evilpig> public is connected to the cable modem and only one of my virtual hosts gets to use that
23:56 <@Dagmar> I was not amused when I was trying to build the VM server on CentOS which expects you're going to use NM for everything, and NM was fucking up
23:57 < aestetix_> basically I got it set up so that both eth0 and ovs-wan had the same IP address, and then tried to unset the ip address for eth0
23:57 < aestetix_> and bye bye network
23:57 <@Dagmar> It was about a week after that they eliminated the last of the insane-o bugs
23:57 <@Dagmar> Yeah just *do not* set an IP on the actual NIC that will be bound to the bridge
23:57 <@Dagmar> If you sort of sketch it out using the OSI models, it'll become obvious why that fails, but it won't be obvious until then
23:58 < aestetix_> well maybe the guy who set this up will actually reply to my meails
23:58 < aestetix_> emails*
23:59 < aestetix_> ok fuck it I'm going to sleep
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