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00:32 <@RangerZ> so.... second life... is one of the few games Twitch bans....
00:32 <@RangerZ> too much adult content
00:32 <@RangerZ> lol
00:37 < _NSAKEY> Wait, Second Life is still a thing?
00:38 <@RangerZ> ohh
00:38 <@RangerZ> some people still make a living from selling shit on there
00:38 < _NSAKEY> That's the real news here.
00:38 <@RangerZ> I saw that a _few months ago_ and was shocked
00:45 <@RangerZ> for those that care https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBWifO3XLSc
00:45 < PigBot> Title: Doctor Who Showrunner Steven Moffat to Leave the TARDIS - IGN News - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/jpgp95z
00:46 <@RangerZ> http://www.wsj.com/articles/former-defense-secretary-marches-into-new-territory-videogames-1453483137?mod=e2tw jesus... now he wants to ruin something else
00:46 < PigBot> Title: Former Defense Secretary Marches Into New Territory: Videogames - WSJ (at www.wsj.com) http://tinyurl.com/gnmmbe9
00:47 <@RangerZ> the middle east, the world economy, and our nation's (more recent)history against war crimes... isn't enough... nope... now he wants to ruin something else...
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01:27 <@sasquatc4> wow, so i guess that friend is a right-wing nutjob, friend calls to ask about some moral dilema, then he proceeds to go on for another hour and half about mcdonalds replacing people with machines, to billionaires shutting down companies because.....taxes, to OMG muslims, to hilary
01:27 <@sasquatc4> and he finally hung up on me when he started talkin republic vs. democracy and i told him i just dont care
01:28 <@RangerZ> sasquatc4: the thing is... he's right... about the first few.... but then goes stupid b/c of faux news
01:28 <@RangerZ> we're past 'peak employment'
01:29 <@sasquatc4> yea, but of course he was saying mcdonalds was doing it because of ze 15$/hr is coming, let alone that they were just going to do it anyway
01:29 <@RangerZ> and honestly, within a few years, there will be fast food with ....maybe... a couple people working, but certainly none in the back
01:30 <@RangerZ> because.... a machine is cheaper in the long run... and if it is... then we shouldn't be having humans doing the work
01:30 <@sasquatc4> exactly, thats what i tried to explain, whether or not 15$/hr was coming, it is still cheaper, so it was going to happen anyway
01:30 <@sasquatc4> but whatever, he stuck to '15$/hr forced their hand'
01:30 <@RangerZ> even if it _ISN'T_ cheaper... its still coming
01:31 <@RangerZ> a LOT of people would take a loss to not have to employee humans
01:31 <@RangerZ> look at Evilpig's employers, thats what they decided
01:31 <@RangerZ> hehehe
01:32 <@sasquatc4> yea, since its not just wages your gaining back, less management or no management, no benefits, no time off, etc etc etc
01:32 <@sasquatc4> one repairman that can service an entire county
01:32 <@RangerZ> no I meant including all that
01:32 <@RangerZ> even if it was financially worth it to keep employees at 15$
01:33 <@RangerZ> I'm sure a lot of places would switch out, for just the savings in the -time- alone
01:34 <@RangerZ> and just wait for foxcon to start its new factory in Taiwan that is like 99.94% robotics instead of humans
01:35 <@RangerZ> also think about a lot of right wingers... that hate the poor
01:35 <@RangerZ> they would do it just to NOT have to give money to "them"
01:36 <@sasquatc4> yea
01:36 <@RangerZ> right after I left my call center job.... my friends told me about how the owner Vince came into the call center room, and talked about "where is my bailout", this was right after GM bailout or bank bailout... forget
01:37 <@RangerZ> he _just_ bought 2 new caddy SUVs
01:37 <@RangerZ> for him and his wife
01:37 <@RangerZ> and was paying 7.50$ still
01:37 <@RangerZ> after the min wage had gone up from 5.15 to 7.25
01:37 <@sasquatc4> uggh
01:38 <@RangerZ> and had the fucking gall to tell his employees "where is my bailout"
01:38 <@RangerZ> people like that would hire robots, just to NOT give money to others
01:39 <@RangerZ> "mike why did you quit to go work as a -lab assistant- at the CSIS dept? "
01:39 <@RangerZ> i got 40hrs at almost the same rate... during the summer and 20 hours "whenever I wanted" during classes
01:40 <@RangerZ> also... where has 15$/hr?
01:40 <@RangerZ> b/c it sure as fuck isn't the US
01:40 <@RangerZ> (I mean as a whole)
01:40 <@sasquatc4> yea, its like 2 or 3 cities in the whole US
01:40 <@sasquatc4> and he's in a medium sized city in louisiana
01:41 <@sasquatc4> it sure isnt there
01:47 <@sasquatc4> just so many things were said that contradicted each other and now my head hurts, need to go watch ant man and let my brain forget about it all
01:47 <@RangerZ> OR
01:47 <@RangerZ> you could watch palin endorse trump
01:47 <@sasquatc4> oh dear god
01:47 <@RangerZ> let your brain just melt
01:48 <@RangerZ> I've listened to it... from clips being played on news/comedy/etc and I honestly can't even find a full sentence out of all of it
01:49 <@RangerZ> like I'm not even kidding at all... She didn't even make a single statement that made sense
01:49 <@RangerZ> apparently a flock of English teachers all had to call off sick after hearing it, and their grammar pens exploded
01:49 <@sasquatc4> hah
01:49 <@RangerZ> but have fun
01:54 <@sasquatc4> hmm, maybe ill just save that for tomorrow
01:54 <@RangerZ> of
01:55 <@RangerZ> or*
01:55 <@RangerZ> you could try to think about how not being able to change HTTP or SSH username/pass on openELEC is a good idea
01:55 <@sasquatc4> nope nope, gonna take some of my legal weed and go watch antman, that still sounds good
01:56 <@RangerZ> my brain about fucking froze when I read that in #openelec
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10:55 <@RangerZ> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Balaclava-Motorcycle-Skull-Mask-Full-Face-Head-Hood-Protector-DH052-/331760533109
10:55 < PigBot> Title: Balaclava Motorcycle Skull Mask Full Face Head Hood Protector DH052 | eBay (at www.ebay.com) http://tinyurl.com/z47uaxg
10:55 <@RangerZ> this is what Dagmar needs when he buys another scooter
10:57 <@RangerZ> (found it when looking for lighting equipment.... of all things)
10:58 < aestetix>  wow
10:58 < aestetix> https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/428u08/doctors_of_reddit_whats_the_creepiest_thing_youve/cz8luw5
10:58 < PigBot> Title: reddit.com: over 18? (at www.reddit.com) http://tinyurl.com/h9lwaee
10:58 < aestetix> story 1 is incredibly fucked up
11:03 <@RangerZ> nope
11:03 <@RangerZ> nope nope nope
11:03 <@RangerZ> just not even going to click that
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11:12 <@oddball> Really? That balaclava is specifically tagged for motorcycle riders?
11:12 <@oddball> RangerZ: Probably wise decision.
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11:37 <@RangerZ> oddball: yeah, I thought it was odd too
11:37 <@RangerZ> especially when it was mixed in with a bunch of camera equipment
11:38 <@oddball> huh
11:38 <@RangerZ> the balaclava
11:38 <@RangerZ> thats from a camera store
11:39 <@oddball> Had a conversation with aomeone about a balaclava like that a while ago.  They said "who would buy that?  That's just asking for trouble."  I responded "eh, probably wouldn't get a second glance in Minnisota or Colorado.
11:40 <@RangerZ> plus if you were wearing it under your helmet
11:40 <@RangerZ> no one would say a thing as long as you took it off semi-quick
11:41 <@oddball> well, yeah.
11:42 <@oddball> Heh... and suprisingly on topic, someone I know that works in a gun shop just posted this on Facebook:
11:42 <@oddball> "When you come bursting into the shop, hoodie up and dressed like an extra from a gangsta rap video, and make an unusually fast beeline across the showroom floor without responding to my cheerful "How you doin' this morning?" and keeping one hand in the pocket of your hoodie the whole time, I ain't flipping my shirttail out of the way and putting the ammo counter between us 'cause I'm racist, okay?"
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11:55 <@RangerZ> obviously thats his problem
11:55 <@RangerZ> he's in a store with guns
11:55  * RangerZ chuckles 
12:00 <@oddball> Someone charging into a shop with a hood up over his head and not just stopping and taking the hood off is definitely in the "suspicious behavior" category.
12:00 <@RangerZ> no I meant the store clerk
12:01 <@oddball> OH... right... because all gun owners are obviously racist.
12:01 <@RangerZ> lol
12:01 <@oddball> fuck off.
12:01 <@RangerZ> no
12:01 <@oddball> oh, and it's a she.
12:01 <@oddball> Seems to be your standard statement.
12:01 <@RangerZ> not what I meant at all, that its dangerous to be in a store with guns
12:01 < aestetix> ohhhh boy
12:01 < aestetix> https://theintercept.com/2016/01/23/clinton-goldman-sachs-laugh/
12:01 < PigBot> Title: Hillary Clinton Laughs When Asked if She Will Release Transcripts of Her Goldman Sachs Speeches (at theintercept.com) http://tinyurl.com/zw23xdh
12:02 < aestetix> Trump is going to pounce on that
12:02 <@RangerZ> not all gun owners are racist, and not all racists are gun owners, just a big overlap now a days
12:02 <@oddball> aestetix: Maybe they were in her emails that she deleted.
12:02 < aestetix> You mean the 18 minutes?
12:02 < aestetix> Oh wait, wrong politician
12:02 <@RangerZ> 18min? who deleted 18 minutes of 'something' ?
12:02 <@oddball> Yeah... that one was actually punished.
12:03 < aestetix> RangerZ: Nixon
12:03 <@RangerZ> ohhh
12:03 <@RangerZ> and he wasn't punished
12:03 < aestetix> well technically Rosemary Woods
12:03 <@RangerZ> letting nixon off has been said to be the indicator that we would never hold presidents accountable
12:03 <@oddball> RangerZ: I'd say being forced to resign in disgrace fits that category.
12:03 <@RangerZ> ans since then
12:04 <@RangerZ> i wouldn't
12:04 <@RangerZ> and since then*.... its just gotten worse and worse
12:04 <@oddball> I'll agree with you there.
12:04 <@RangerZ> resigning is NOT punishment
12:04 < aestetix> Which is interesting given that several of his staff did jailtime
12:04 <@oddball> It's falling on your own sword.
12:04 <@RangerZ> its how he -escaped- punishment by getting pardoned
12:04 < aestetix> Including John Dean
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12:05 <@RangerZ> Sadly, Nixon was the last republican president that was worth two shits
12:06 < aestetix> I still wish Colin Powell would run
12:06 <@RangerZ> he was parnoid, and what not... but at least he did a lot of good things EPA, clean air act, clean water act, ended vietnam, etc
12:06 < aestetix> But he's too smart
12:06 <@RangerZ> nah, he's lost standing
12:06 <@RangerZ> he let the NEO CONs use him too much
12:07 <@RangerZ> he could only run, if the republican party wasn't controlled by the Koch Octopus
12:07 <@RangerZ> Koch brothers and their doners are going to spend 2x more then than the 'offiical' party this time
12:09 <@oddball> He won't run because his wife has asked him not to.  She's had a mental breakdown in the past, and doesn't want to deal with the stress.
12:12 <@RangerZ> and honestly.... do you think he'd have ANY chance in the republican party?
12:13 <@RangerZ> " I'm not in favor of land wars in Asia " (disqualified)
12:13 <@oddball> A couple years ago when he was actually a name? yes. yes I do.
12:13 <@RangerZ> I mean 'now'
12:13 <@RangerZ> look at who at the head of the pack
12:14 <@RangerZ> jeb bush has spent over ...what... 50 million or 100 million to get to 4% ?
12:15 <@oddball> True, but there's a huge portion of the GOP that doesn't want anything to do with the Bush family after W.
12:15 <@RangerZ> the democratic party has issues with Blue Dog Democrats and Corporatists, thats for sure....
12:15 <@oddball> Trump... I got nothing other than there's apparently a bunch of folks that just want to see the world burn.
12:15 <@RangerZ> but any of the 3 running on the democratic side isn't going to result in possible END TIME scenarios
12:16 <@RangerZ> and Cruz... he's almost(if not more so) as bad
12:17 <@oddball> There's a good number of conservative folks out there that do, in fact, want someone who's sane.  Unfortunately, the GOP keeps failing hard on that point.
12:17 <@RangerZ> you gotta wonder if this is how it felt in 1932 in Germany
12:17 <@RangerZ> "is this what we are stuck with?"
12:18 <@oddball> Hell, last go around, the sanest of the bunch was literally the crazy old gold that kept jumping up and down in the aisles of the Senate shouting "gold! gold!"
12:18 <@RangerZ> huh?
12:18 <@oddball> Ron Paul
12:19 <@RangerZ> ohh , house, not sensate
12:19 <@RangerZ> which is what threw me
12:19 <@oddball> Oh.  Sorry.  For some reason was thinking he was a senator.
12:20 <@RangerZ> nope
12:20 <@oddball> But when *he's* the sane one of the bunch, you've got problems.
12:20 <@RangerZ> not even TX is that.... nevermind.... cruz
12:21 < aestetix> ok
12:21 < aestetix> thunderbird has been replaced with mutt
12:21 < aestetix> now to figure out firefox
12:23 <@RangerZ> this is why you need to have web-mail
12:24 <@RangerZ> (even if only self hosted)
12:24 < aestetix> why?
12:25 <@RangerZ> not require you to have the service running on a local machine, and that way you can properly archive it, etc.
12:26 < aestetix> can't you solve that with IMAP?
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12:27 <@rattle> Snow blah blah snow blah.
12:27 < aestetix> rattle: stay away from coke
12:27 <@RangerZ> rattle: you in DC  still?
12:27 <@RangerZ> or close to it
12:28 <@RangerZ> aka... District of -"now even whiter than a Trump Rally"
12:29 <@RangerZ> until tomorrow when it becomes Obama-esk, half white/black.... hehe
12:30 <@RangerZ> though to be honest... I'm surprised he hasn't become a slush after republican congress, lol
12:30 < aestetix> and from Kenya
12:30 <@rattle> I moved from Boston to DC about three years ago.  Now I'm actually living in NYC, but at this exact moment I'm on the Jersey Shore..
12:30 <@rattle> Er..  From DC to Boston..
12:30 <@RangerZ> ahh
12:30 < aestetix> rattle: do you know snookie?
12:31 <@RangerZ> aestetix: what I find amazing is.... cruz doesn't actually have any legal precedent for him saying he can run for office
12:31 < aestetix> RangerZ: yeah, Trump was actually right during the debate.
12:31 < aestetix> I mean, McCain had the same issue, but he was at least born in a military base
12:31 <@RangerZ> nope, he was fine, even if he wasn't
12:32 <@RangerZ> his parents were both military
12:32 <@RangerZ> children born to active duty military are natural born citizens no matter what
12:32 < aestetix> ah ok
12:32 <@RangerZ> the 'natural born citizenship' thing is actually leaning the other way .... even if you ask the Professor who taught Cruz law , lol
12:33 <@rattle> aestetix: Not sure..  The nym sounds super familiar.
12:33 <@RangerZ> rattle: I'm going to just assume you decided to 'straight man' his jerry lewis
12:34 < aestetix> RangerZ: snookie is from the show Jersy Shore
12:34 < aestetix> at least I think. I only know of her through south park :p
12:34 <@rattle> I hate Cruz, but this whole thing is a foil and a waste of time.
12:34 <@RangerZ> and apparently my straight vs strait joke fell flatter than I thought it would
12:34 <@rattle> Oh..  You dickhead.  That bitch from the TV show.
12:34 <@RangerZ> nvm
12:34 < aestetix> rattle: did you see that someone is challenging Hillary to release her speech to Goldman sachs?
12:34 <@rattle> No, I don't.
12:34 < aestetix> haha
12:34 < aestetix> RangerZ: you mean it fell limp
12:35 <@rattle> All the people on that show were from long island, not Jersey.
12:35 <@rattle> People here are not like that.
12:35 <@RangerZ> they only went to jersey for the summer
12:35 <@RangerZ> well... at least now that Evilpig has moved away
12:35 <@RangerZ> he was starting to white tip his hair
12:36 <@rattle> Where is he now?  I heard he couldn't take the Jersey.  Heh.
12:36 <@RangerZ> vandy
12:36 <@RangerZ> again
12:36 <@RangerZ> Tumblr decided to tumble him out of the back door
12:37 < aestetix> Nashville also probably smells better.
12:37 <@rattle> Dude, you're talking shit about my homeland, fucker.
12:38 < aestetix> rattle: nah, just observing objective facts.
12:38 < aestetix> rattle: it could be worse. You could be from staten island
12:38 <@rattle> Most of Jersey is actually quite nice.  People get a bad impression of the place if all they ever see is the turnpike.
12:38 <@rattle> I do have a distaste for Staten Island.
12:39 < aestetix> Staten Island is *literally* a landfill.
12:39 <@RangerZ> but so is Antioch now too
12:39 < _NSAKEY> I wouldn't call Antioch a landfill.
12:39 <@RangerZ> *drum rimshot sounded somwhere because of that*
12:40 < _NSAKEY> It's more a ghost town with some apartment complexes and some roads people use to get to places that still have open businesses.
12:40 < aestetix> http://www.stupidhackathon.com/apply.html
12:40 < PigBot> Title: Apply To Participate In The Stupid Shit No One Needs & Terrible Ideas Hackathon (at www.stupidhackathon.com) http://tinyurl.com/jrb7fhl
12:41 <@rattle> Ohh..  Apple just got a cool point from me I wasn't expecting.
12:41 <@oddball> There's apparently a "hip antioch" Facebook group, and the group narrowly defines "Antioch" as the Hickory Hollow area... aka "the place no one wants to be."
12:42 <@RangerZ> rattle: how so? by saying they hate aestetix?
12:42 <@rattle> I've been playing with location tracking MDM related stuff, and my phone just nicely notified me that I had an app that appeared to be tracking my location possibly without my knowledge for the past few days.
12:42 < _NSAKEY> oddball: What's hip about antioch? A lot of the bigger spots (MediaPlay's former home, and one of the theaters) are now churches, and smaller retail locations have been taken over by check cashing stores.
12:42 < _NSAKEY> Also, let's not forget the fact that even Cracker Barrel can't make money in that part of town...
12:43 <@oddball> Yeah, there is that.
12:43 < _NSAKEY> The old Target is getting some kind of store, finally
12:43 <@oddball> I think it's open.
12:43 <@RangerZ> didn't it get the influx of refugees from New Orleans after Katrina?
12:43 < _NSAKEY> I remember the news from a few years back where some maintenance guy found a dead body behind that place
12:44 <@RangerZ> I remember hearing someone say that  -that mess- is what really hurt it
12:44 <@oddball> What?  Not the stabbing at the Applebee's?
12:44 <@RangerZ> Antioch and Dallas both
12:44 <@oddball> or the gang wars in the mall parking lot?
12:44 <@rattle> Hahah!!  The town I'm in right now is on CNN!!
12:44 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: Hickory Hollow had swirled almost completely down the drain long before Katrina.
12:45 < _NSAKEY> Like, it was going to die and not recover before that particular hurricane happened.
12:45 <@RangerZ> well its not like Bush would send Black people somewhere he LIKED
12:46 <@RangerZ> just ask Mike Myers
12:46 <@RangerZ> Bush.....
12:46 <@RangerZ> hehe
12:46 < _NSAKEY> ... And Chris Tucker.
12:47 < _NSAKEY> You can't forget about Chris Tucker. His reaction made that video.
12:48 <@RangerZ> ahh yeah
12:48 <@RangerZ> forgot about that
12:51 < aestetix> You know what would be funny?
12:52 < aestetix> Have someone present Jeb Bush with a 5-hour-energy for a redbull
12:52 < aestetix> And get a photo of it
12:52 < aestetix> s/for/or/
12:53 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: If you want to talk demographics though, Hickory Hollow's were shifting a few years before Katrina.
12:53 < _NSAKEY> La Vergne basically became Antioch's prolapsed asshole in the years after that, mostly around the Lake Forest area.
12:54 < _NSAKEY> That problem solved itself when the housing bubble popped, and a bunch of people got foreclosed on.
12:54 < _NSAKEY> There was also the fact that there was one woman who controlled something like 400 houses (In a subdivision of 3000+ houses), and was doing side notes with all the tenants while doing section 8 housing.
12:55 < _NSAKEY> The side notes were a huge no-no, and all those people got evicted once the feds figured it out.
12:55 < _NSAKEY> Probably 15 or 20 of the houses on my street sat empty for a year after 2010 or so.
12:56 < _NSAKEY> They didn't all get filled back again until around last year.
12:57 < _NSAKEY> The La Vergne PD was also hilariously incompetent. Like, they modeled themselves on the Keystone Cops.
12:58 < _NSAKEY> That being said, Katrina probably DID contribute to Lake Forest needing to be purged with fire, but it was already too late for the Hickory Hollow area.
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13:01 <@RangerZ> funny thing is... I don't know if I've ever actually _been to_ the areas you are talking about
13:01 <@RangerZ> I tend to stay on the north half of town, or drive on the highway to MBoro
13:01 <@RangerZ> but I can imagine
13:01 <@RangerZ> hell... just look at Madison's "main road"
13:02 <@Dagmar> WHich one?
13:03 <@RangerZ> more pawn shops and check cashing places on it than I've ever seen in such a small area
13:03 <@RangerZ> Gallatin pike
13:03 <@Dagmar> Ahhh
13:03 <@Dagmar> "Economic Indicators"
13:04 <@RangerZ> yeah
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13:06 <@Dagmar> Oh hell.  Logitech makes a Playstation/Xbox controller now
13:07 <@RangerZ> my mom got hit with Huntington Bank's _proven illegal actions_ back in 2007/2008, and they said she owed like 2k$ to the bank in over-draft fees and other nonsense, and they put them on a list "of people who can't open bank accounts"
13:07 <@RangerZ> we looked around at check cashing places, and what not... and had to laugh/cry at the absurdity of what they charge people
13:07 <@Dagmar> Yeah I totally don't get why banks that are charging the shit out of people in overdraft fees will declare folks unfit customers so quickyl
13:08 <@RangerZ> funny enough, they just went to walmart and cashed their payroll checks for 3$
13:08 <@RangerZ> they didn't even care, they refused to pay Huntington their blood money
13:08 <@Dagmar> What did Huntington do?
13:09 <@Dagmar> Is this like BofA deciding to process the day's debits before the days deposits?
13:09 <@RangerZ> would _MAKE UP_ charges, or double charge things... and then put people into negative, and then charge them overdraft fees, and THEN undo the double charges
13:09 <@RangerZ> and they would do this with _large_ payments, like rent, etc
13:10 <@RangerZ> they were the first bank that the CFPB actually went after
13:10 < aestetix> Evilpig: found another pic of your gf: https://i.imgur.com/2BQ2Koe.gifv
13:10 <@RangerZ> because they were fucking being _blatant_ about the fucks they weren't giving
13:12 <@RangerZ> Dagmar: https://youtu.be/vhrNXGpQCZ0?t=167
13:12 < PigBot> Title: The Craziest $200 Phone? Honor 5X, 5.5" IPS, Loaded Android Phone - YouTube (at youtu.be) http://tinyurl.com/jecmxxz
13:13 <@RangerZ> you NEED to watch this for like 20 seconds
13:13 <@oddball> heh... yeah.  Dagmar will enjoy that.
13:16 <@RangerZ> "I feel your pain on the inside... but I don't care"
13:17 <@Dagmar> THeir stats are lies
13:17 <@Dagmar> You're not getting 27 hours of talktime on that battery
13:17 <@RangerZ> who cares
13:17 <@RangerZ> thats not the funny part
13:18 <@Dagmar> That he's unfamiliar with how fingerprint scanners work but he's still willing to run his mouth about them?
13:19 <@RangerZ> what...?
13:19  * RangerZ steps back from Dagmar taking things a -bit- too seriously
13:20 <@RangerZ> I'm wondering if you've smoked too much weed... or not enough....
13:20 <@RangerZ> hehehe
13:20 <@RangerZ> I still can't believe he fucking said that to your face
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13:29 <@RangerZ> oddball: want to make someone from the con you run go into a nervous twitch ?
13:29 <@RangerZ> http://woodworkingformeremortals.spreadshirt.com/battlestar-galactica-A102585917
13:29 < PigBot> Title: Battlestar Galactica | The Wood Shoppe (at woodworkingformeremortals.spreadshirt.com) http://tinyurl.com/jj8uhrt
13:30 <@RangerZ> they purposely put as many wrong things on that page as possible
13:30 <@RangerZ> Like:       Details:  Perfect for any Browncoat (fan of Stargate.)
13:31 <@opticron> I approve
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13:36 <@rattle> The media is hyping up this storm like Donald Trump.  It's a bad storm, but it's not like the apocalypse or something.
13:36 <@rattle> I just did a quick run for smokes..  The plows have been doing a great job of keeping up with the snowfall..
13:36 <@rattle> And all the areas that are flooded are the areas that flood every damn time there is a major storm..
13:36 <@rattle> I just took this video..  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTBA-0QRamE
13:36 < PigBot> Title: Storm footage - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/j4z7jwz
13:41 <@RangerZ> fuck that nonsense
13:41 <@RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqQxZGi674Y
13:41 < PigBot> Title: Rattle Escaping from the West Wing - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/zol9xmn
13:41 <@RangerZ> THAT is much more worth watching
13:45 <@rattle> I agree, actually.  :)
13:49 <@Evilpig> You don't park in a parking spot where you live that someone else shoveled out
13:50 <@Evilpig> this is common courtsey.  IF you fail to abide by this sociatal nicety I should be within my rights to ice your car and replace all of the snow I removed earlier
13:50 <@Evilpig> along with a bill for my time
13:50 <@RangerZ> lol
13:50 <@RangerZ> Evilpig: ouch
13:51 < _NSAKEY> Evilpig: You're a wimp if you don't go back out and do that right now.
13:51 <@Evilpig> I took all the snow i just shoveled out of my new spot and put it in that one
13:52 <@Evilpig> my next door neighbor thinks that is someone visiting my downstairs neighbor
13:53 <@RangerZ> snow fort around their car is what I'm thinking they need
13:53 < _NSAKEY> Plus, snow ON their car.
13:53 <@RangerZ> technically non-destructive
13:53 <@RangerZ> but 'fuck....'
13:53 <@Dagmar> A gallon of nice, cool water.
13:54 <@RangerZ> put into a spray bottle
13:54 <@RangerZ> then 'mist' the car
13:54 < _NSAKEY> Or drink a lot of water today and hold it until tonight.
13:54 < _NSAKEY> Then, in the dead of night, urinate on all their door handles.
13:54 <@RangerZ> that would be illegal
13:54 <@RangerZ> snow fort... I think would be legal
13:54 < _NSAKEY> That hasn't stopped me from doing something similar in the past.
13:55 <@Dagmar> ...and really unpleasant for the peer
13:55 < _NSAKEY> Pretty sure I've told the story before, but I had a situation in which a car lot wsa giving me shit over a car that was out for repo, that they had taken in as a trade.
13:56 < _NSAKEY> They wouldn't even let me wait inside, so I relieved myself on the driver's door handles of some of the new trade-ins.
13:56 <@Evilpig> the sun is out right now, water will do nothing
13:56 <@Evilpig> if it's still out there later tonight, i'll be filling every crack and crevice
13:56 < _NSAKEY> Evilpig: That's why I said to start chugging water now.
13:56 < _NSAKEY> Although RangerZ's spray bottle idea is actually superior.
13:59 <@RangerZ> I _never_ did that to my step dad as an april fool's trick (in ohio when it was still cold in april)
13:59 <@RangerZ> nope...
13:59 <@rattle> Haha..  They did a total travel ban in NYC.
13:59 <@RangerZ> He didn't have almost a half inch of ice around his windows and doors (thankfully was 2 door at the time)
13:59 <@RangerZ> nope... I'm completely innocent
13:59 <@RangerZ> lol
14:00 <@RangerZ> of only muslims?
14:00 <@RangerZ> ohh wait.. nvm
14:00 <@RangerZ> hehe
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14:03 <@Evilpig> rattle: over in jersey too.  my friend jaime said she got a call from the township she is in saying it was now illegal to be on the roads and to stay indoors until the whiteout is over
14:03 <@rattle> http://i.imgur.com/8jHnFdE.jpg
14:03 <@rattle> Fuck that shit.
14:04 <@RangerZ> rattle: that would hurt
14:04 <@RangerZ> I don't want to know who is stretched to that size
14:04 <@RangerZ> I'm sure aestetix knows, but that is besides the point
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14:07 <@rattle> Fyi, the guy is the picture is a friend of the scene..  Some folks here might know Danny from the Black Clouds..  http://www.theblackclouds.com/
14:07 < PigBot> Title: The Black Clouds | The Black Clouds | Home (at www.theblackclouds.com) http://tinyurl.com/zxxznqx
14:07 <@RangerZ> http://jamesmollison.com/books/where-children-sleep/joey-11-kentucky-usa/
14:07 < PigBot> Title: Joey, 11, Kentucky, USA | (at jamesmollison.com) http://tinyurl.com/h8flgw8
14:08 <@RangerZ> not even going to say a word...
14:10 <@rattle> Flashback..  Another friend's 7 seconds of fame..  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-H-rMguvhE
14:10 < PigBot> Title: Hilarious interview News 12 NJ Hurricane Sandy - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/h9olfp6
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14:35 <@RangerZ> so I walk outside just now, to look at my car
14:35 <@RangerZ> and literally say "...NICE..."
14:36 <@RangerZ> my car is bone dry and every other one is still burried
14:36 <@RangerZ> just brushing the snow off last night, let the .5 mm or so thick ice that was on it completely melt away by now
14:37 <@Evilpig> my bed is full of snow and ice but otherwise clean
14:37 <@Evilpig> I went and picked up notlarry earlier and we ran to walmart
14:38 <@Evilpig> old hickory is still utter shit.  surprised we didnt get hit from people coming down the hill and otherwise just driving like idiots
14:40 <@RangerZ> the worst part of all of this is -my- fucking parking lot
14:40 <@RangerZ> if I can get out of my parking spot... then I'll be fine
14:49 < aestetix> penis
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15:19 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: I'll just stick with my sub to Shoe0nHead's videos
15:21 <@Dagmar> Case in point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFSbFBo9LOw
15:21 < PigBot> Title: internalized misogyny - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/qdyyb3q
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16:08 <@RangerZ> https://www.coursera.org/specializations/androidapp for those who are curious
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16:10 < aestetix> ok so I'll say something that everyone in this channel will relate to
16:10 < aestetix> It's amazing but also exhausting how a conference can come together and fall apart at least three times before it happens
16:26 <@RangerZ> http://petapixel.com/2016/01/23/this-artist-got-90k-instagram-followers-with-photos-of-a-fake-lavish-lifestyle/
16:26 < PigBot> Title: This Artist Got 90K Instagram Followers with Photos of a Fake Lavish Lifestyle (at petapixel.com) http://tinyurl.com/jv24kw9
16:30 <@RangerZ> so.... I was thinking
16:30 <@RangerZ> I have a fully functional green screen studio... and we should make use of it for PN
16:30 <@RangerZ> I'm thinking we have _NSAKEY get up and start rambling
16:31 < aestetix> oh wow
16:31 < aestetix> you could make your own midget porn with that
16:31 <@RangerZ> and then we have a competition of who can make use of that video the best in video editing
16:31 < aestetix> or horse porn
16:31 <@RangerZ> nope, sorry, the camera is too high
16:31 <@RangerZ> and the door is too small
16:31 < aestetix> ok horse porn then
16:32 <@RangerZ> sorry, door is too small
16:32 < aestetix> goat porn?
16:33 <@RangerZ> but I am thinking that some -more professional- looking marketing material might be interesting to see
16:33 < aestetix> oh you want professional
16:33 < aestetix> so Donald Trump porn
16:33 <@RangerZ> i know Dagmar has at least one of those full body green-man suits too
16:35 < aestetix> maybe we could have pig porn too
16:35 < aestetix> to go with the pig roast
16:37 <@RangerZ> aestetix: first of all, I'm being serious, so you're looking like a SJW
16:37  * RangerZ couldn't think of anything worse to insult him as
16:40 <@RangerZ> http://www.upcomingcons.com/upcomingcons/23835-Walker-Stalker
16:40 < PigBot> Title: Walker Stalker 2016 - Scifi and horror Convention on UpcomingCons.com (at www.upcomingcons.com) http://tinyurl.com/zytnkn3
16:40 <@RangerZ> I have a problem with this naming
16:41 < aestetix> you know what would be hilarious and trolly?
16:41 < aestetix> have a firefox plugin that changes the word "pedophile" to "social justice warrior"
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17:05 <@klixa> aestetix: arent they alredy the same thing?
17:07 <@klixa> case in point http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2012/09/stop_childhood_sexual_abuse_how_to_treat_pedophilia_.html   ie. the new trend of treating them as victims of their own desires
17:07 < PigBot> Couldn't snarf url: HTTP Error 404: Not Found. http://tinyurl.com/9o3sxlg
17:08 <@RangerZ> klixa: not really, and that is an insult to pemophiles
17:08 <@RangerZ> pedo*
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17:09 <@RangerZ> but all kidding aside, it really is... they have medical+mental issues (generally) that cause them to be that way, and need to seek medical treatment.
17:09 <@RangerZ> People just being stupid on the internet is just .... stupid...
17:10 <@RangerZ> lol
17:10 <@klixa> RangerZ: i wasnt aware you were a SJW :/
17:11 <@klixa> seriously i dont gaf why they are how they are...cause how they are is WRONG
17:11 < aestetix> for x in goat pig donkey horse RangerZ; do echo "the internet is for $x porn"; done
17:12 <@RangerZ> no, I'm actually like 1/2 SJW 1/2 Normal, I agree that 'some' of the shit SJW's bring up is actually based in reality, but they over blow it to the point where it becomes hard for others to even listen to them.
17:12 <@RangerZ> aka... I'm a moderate
17:12 <@RangerZ> lol
17:13 <@klixa> we can take *any* person and look for excuses of why they are how they are, and the more we do that it kaes it easier to empathise wit their bad behaviort...but i dont think we should be tolerant of all people...i dont think we should care they have their reasons...i think we should just reject them
17:13 <@RangerZ> I agree that they need to stop it, and that pedo(s) are fucking disgusting, but just ignoring the science on 'why' they are the way they they are... is also just as bad as someone saying they just need more hugs
17:14 <@RangerZ> Unless the stat I remember reading was completely wrong, that most pedo(s) once they seek (forcibly mostly) medical help, they can get hormones and other drugs to help them -not- have those urges
17:14 <@klixa> hmmm
17:15 <@RangerZ> I'm not saying that they shouldn't be punished for the acts they commit, and that they shouldn't be sought after like MFers
17:15 <@RangerZ> just that equating someone with a (usually) medical condition and online trolls is just as bad as the online trolls
17:17 <@klixa> im not a liberal like you... i hate them... no sympathy...and i ignore the science :|
17:20 < _NSAKEY> Wait, what is this about having me ramble in front of a green screen?
17:20 < _NSAKEY> This almost sounds like a video version of an old school fark.com photoshop contest.
17:20 <@RangerZ> ....nothing....
17:20 <@RangerZ> we could use the rattle cut out too
17:20 < _NSAKEY> With voice-overs?
17:20 <@RangerZ> and move it from below the shot, have it look like he's walking
17:20 < _NSAKEY> Might as well include the Laughing Boy cut-out too.
17:21 <@RangerZ> sure
17:26 <@RangerZ> klixa: I agree with punishing them and what not, but I want to _prevent_ them from causing problems too
17:27 <@RangerZ> so if you can screen them before they cause any harm to any kids... I'd rather have that solution
17:27 <@RangerZ> Especially if a vaccine like solution can be figured out
17:32 <@Evilpig> I wanna go see tool, but I can't force myself to pay what assholes are asking
17:34 < aestetix> how mcuh are they asking?
17:35 <@Evilpig> lowest i've been told is $200
17:35 <@Evilpig> highest was $1000
17:35 < aestetix> would someone seriously pay $1k to see tool?
17:36 <@Evilpig> people did
17:36 <@Evilpig> I saw those tickets on stubhub and they are gone now
17:36 < aestetix> How the hell is it worth that much?
17:36 <@Evilpig> they haven't been near nashville in several years
17:36 <@oddball> Stupid people.
17:36 < aestetix> Is it like "buy food and pay rent.... or see tool"
17:37 <@Evilpig> some of the shit i've read on craigslist today was people flying in from chicago, ny, atlanta
17:37 < aestetix> HAHAHAHA
17:37 < aestetix> http://ultraculture.org/blog/2016/01/21/donald-trump-rally-acid/
17:37 <@Evilpig> and couldn't make it
17:37 < PigBot> Title: This is What Going to a Donald Trump Rally on Acid is Like (at ultraculture.org) http://tinyurl.com/gsygbrz
17:38 <@oddball> aestetix: I've known people that have literally had that argument.
17:38 <@Evilpig> aestetix: example.  http://nashville.craigslist.org/tix/5416444416.html
17:38 < PigBot> Title: 2 Tool Floor Tickets Nashville (at nashville.craigslist.org) http://tinyurl.com/h5mmovs
17:38 <@Evilpig> last minute...
17:38 <@Evilpig> doors open in 20 minutes
17:38 <@oddball> Is Tool only playing in Nashville and nowhere else on the continent or something?
17:39 < aestetix> $1000 would cover a night in a hotel and gas money, as well as tickets to see it in another city
17:39 < _NSAKEY> That's pretty crazy.
17:39 < _NSAKEY> Evilpig: I'm convinced that the tickets were never actually for sale on ticketmaster.com.
17:40 < _NSAKEY> I tried getting a ticket when they first went on sale. Nope, didn't happen.
17:40 < _NSAKEY> I can remember in ye olden days, going to kroger to get George Carlin tickets for the last show he ever did in Nashville.
17:41 < _NSAKEY> Got better seats than the radio winners, and didn't have to deal with scalping asshats.
17:42 <@oddball> Yeah... I'm pretty sure that TicketMaster has been working deals with the professional scalper operations.
17:43 < _NSAKEY> Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's to the point that they don't actually offer tickets for sale to mere mortals, but only make it appear that way.
17:43 < _NSAKEY> Even several years ago, you could still buy tickets to shows.
17:43 < _NSAKEY> There's no way Tool instantly sold out and every single available ticket went on stubhub.
17:44 <@oddball> Depends on the concert.
17:45 <@oddball> I believe I got my tickets to Weird Al through Ticket Master last time he was in town.
17:46 < _NSAKEY> Evilpig: Your only other option for Tool is to hit a scalper on the street over the head with a blunt object and rob him.
17:48 <@Dagmar> Excellent plan.
17:49 < _NSAKEY> I always love fucking with those vermin, every chance I get.
17:49 <@oddball> I suggest a sap.  Descrete, effective, and easy to pocket after the fact. :)
17:49 < _NSAKEY> The last time I encountered some outside an event, one of them asked if I was going to the show.
17:49 < _NSAKEY> I told him I won my tickets on the radio, and so I had better seats than anything he could possibly be offering.
17:49 <@RangerZ> is scalping illegal in TN?
17:49 <@oddball> nope
17:49 <@klixa> _NSAKEY: i know people who got Tool tickets the day they went on sale
17:49 < _NSAKEY> Actually, it's not legal in Nashville. Thus, the "NEED TICKETS" signs.
17:50 < _NSAKEY> They can't advertise that they HAVE tickets, so they go in the opposite direction.
17:50 < _NSAKEY> klixa: I call bullshit.
17:50 < _NSAKEY> Unless your friend bought them from a scalping site like stubhub.
17:50 <@klixa> _NSAKEY: one of them posted the pics online... you could probably steal their barcode off the top one lol
17:50 < _NSAKEY> Probably, but I don't like Tool enough to brave this weather.
17:51 < _NSAKEY> I would have been super pissed if I hadn't resigned myself to the scalpers ruining Tool the day the tickets went on sale.
17:51 <@klixa> _NSAKEY: i have a theory... ok, so one person i know, like they had 6 people all tyring to get tickets, and whoever got in the sight was to buy them for all of them... well this plan went horribly wrong because since they sold out, the person who managed ot get tickets...sold hers for jacked up prices
17:51 <@klixa> _NSAKEY: so that might be why they all dispeaer...people buy extra and then profit off the fact it sold out, etc
17:51 < _NSAKEY> I was on ticketmaster.com before they went on sale.
17:52 <@klixa> _NSAKEY: so was everyone else
17:52 < _NSAKEY> Your friend is part of the problem. You should throat-punch her the next time you see her.
17:52 <@klixa> _NSAKEY: no, it happened to my friend...her friend fucked her over
17:52 < _NSAKEY> Did her "friend" get throat-punched?
17:52 <@klixa> _NSAKEY: her friend got majorly dissed on facebook
17:53 <@klixa> there was this all out war...
17:53 < _NSAKEY> That's lame, unless there was a phone video of a beating that made its way to facebook in the course of the "war."
17:53 <@klixa> buuuut....that person posted the ticket pics online and the bar code is clear as day on one of them
17:53 <@klixa> im sure someone took advanatage of that
17:55 < _NSAKEY> https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/how-stubhub-screwed-over-a-laker-fan-but-he-lived-to-tell-the-tale
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19:08 <@RangerZ> https://www.rt.com/news/329867-israel-land-west-bank/ thats some BS
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19:08 <@RangerZ> I really wonder when (really 'if') the US is ever going to pull its head out of its ass and finally stop Isreal from making things -worse- for itself
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19:29 < aestetix> ok so honest question
19:29 < aestetix> who actually buys anything from radio shack anymore?
19:30 <@oddball> I did when they were still open around me.
19:32 <@oddball> There were a couple around town that still actually sold electronic components.  Sure, for more than I could buy online, but 1. instant fullfillment, and 2. I only needed one or two, not 100.
19:36 <@RangerZ> aestetix: same, I bought some RaPi stuff at one, and a MicroSD card that was as cheap as me buying it on amazon +shipping
19:38 <@oddball> I'm still upset at their ad campaign advertising that they weren't the same store that they were in the 80's.  The 80's Radio Shack was actually pretty awesome.
19:39 <@oddball> Instead, they basically turned into third party cell phone shops.
19:40 <@RangerZ> and that worked "really well" for best buy too
19:40 <@RangerZ> ohh wait....
19:40 <@RangerZ> https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/double-digit-snowfall-blankets-the-dc-region-with-more-to-come/2016/01/23/30b7a46e-c1bb-11e5-bcda-62a36b394160_story.html
19:40 < PigBot> Title: Officials warn effects of massive Washington snowstorm could last for days - The Washington Post (at www.washingtonpost.com) http://tinyurl.com/j92zhb9
19:40 <@RangerZ> so rattle is going to have to stay where he is for the next few days
19:40 <@RangerZ> lol
19:41 <@oddball> and apparently NYC is straight up shut down and essentially under martial law.
19:41 <@oddball> The NYPD have declared that if they see you on the streets, they're arresting you.
20:00 <@RangerZ> thought to be honest, they really should have that policy on wall st
20:01 <@RangerZ> ....all the time....
20:01 <@oddball> heh
20:01 <@RangerZ> though*
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20:27 < _NSAKEY> You guys need this in your lives. https://twitter.com/OffDaMolly/status/690702529898872833
20:27 < PigBot> Title: Daddy on Twitter: "so my neighbors outside shoveling in a t-Rex costume........ https://t.co/psNLmnChDq" (at twitter.com) http://tinyurl.com/hp4ahmm
20:34 <@RangerZ> nice
20:34 <@RangerZ> however... this is not nice at all... http://www.buzzfeed.com/emaoconnor/driver-stranded-in-blizzard-kills-helping-hand#.tt8Abwz0g
20:34 < PigBot> Title: Police: A Driver Stranded In The Blizzard Shot And Killed A Man Coming To His Aid - BuzzFeed News (at www.buzzfeed.com) http://tinyurl.com/zw5xvbk
20:36 <@RangerZ> but to bring a smile to those sad faces... https://twitter.com/HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN/status/691056586131771392
20:36 < PigBot> Title: HIDEO_KOJIMA on Twitter: "Where to next? https://t.co/oIM3q0xbIU" (at twitter.com) http://tinyurl.com/j92rpx3
20:37 <@RangerZ> I love how Kojima is now on a world wide tour of basically every major studio (other than Konami) with Mark Cerny
20:38 <@RangerZ> "for the next thing in tech"
20:47 <@RangerZ> http://thefuturescentre.org/signals-of-change/5611/vegetable-factory-first-robotic-farmerless-farm
20:47 < PigBot> Title: Vegetable factory: the first robotic, farmerless farm | Futures Centre (at thefuturescentre.org) http://tinyurl.com/hf5o5b8
20:47 <@RangerZ> [By fully automating the process the company is aiming to reduce labour costs by 50%, double productivity per unit volume, and optimise lighting, air conditioning, moisture and water use. Automation has also enabled 98% of the water used in cultivation to be recycled. ]
20:49 <@RangerZ> so yeah.... there goes more jobs, lol (but safer food, since less pesticides, etc)
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21:27 < _NSAKEY> https://recode.net/2016/01/19/nielsen-wants-to-watch-you-talk-to-your-facebook-friends-about-what-you-watch-on-tv/
21:27 < PigBot> Title: Nielsen Will Add Facebook, Instagram to Social TV Ratings | Re/code (at recode.net) http://tinyurl.com/zlfrx7t
21:27 <@RangerZ> Neilson is basically proving lately that it isn't a valid measurement of watching habits anymore
21:27 <@RangerZ> it was 'alright' back in the 60s
21:27 <@RangerZ> but since DVR has existed, it has been a joke
21:28 <@RangerZ> let alone streaming
21:29 <@oddball> Especially now that many (all?) of the cable companies now provide limited streaming of current shows.
21:29 <@RangerZ> you gotta think that Neilson would LOVE to have the data from those set top boxes
21:30 <@RangerZ> and that they cable companies aren't (probably legally) allowed to sell it (at least non "de-anonymous" data
21:30 <@oddball> And I wish that networks would get that streaming data as well.  It might change which shows get cancelled and which don't.
21:31 <@RangerZ> but that would be "snooping"
21:31 <@RangerZ> and there would be a BIG stink over that
21:32 <@oddball> pff, like they're not already snooping on our watching habits.
21:32 <@RangerZ> yeah, but 'common people' don't realize that
21:32 <@RangerZ> basically every different source has a -very- detailed report of what we watch
21:32 <@RangerZ> but they want to keep it SILOd to gain an advantage over the other media providers
21:33 < _NSAKEY> That's one reason I refuse to watch TV. I have a TV plan, but only to get better internet speeds.
21:33 <@RangerZ> _NSAKEY: thats the exact reason why I just upgraded too
21:33 < _NSAKEY> TDS won't let me go above 50 mbps unless there's a TV plan, aka 500 channels of shit I am NEVER going to watch.
21:33 <@RangerZ> "ohh, for less than I used to pay for cable/tv/phone I can have 250/25 and TV.... sure
21:34 <@RangerZ> _NSAKEY: A lot of the reason I went with the TV package.... was just for when my mom visits
21:34 <@RangerZ> or others visit
21:35 <@RangerZ> wait wait wait....
21:35 <@RangerZ> [ Nielsen is going to start tracking discussions that people have about TV on Facebook with their family and friends, even if that discussion isn’t marked as “public." ]
21:35 < _NSAKEY> I was actually going to drop my TV plan, and could have kept my old speed. If I kept it, I could double my speeds for the same money.
21:35 < _NSAKEY> I decided to go for the double speed.
21:35 < _NSAKEY> Yeah, that's the troubling part.
21:36 < _NSAKEY> If they were trawling public discussions, then who cares?
21:36 <@RangerZ> so who wants to write a script with me.... to flood social media with "families" and talk about sci-fi/fantasy shows?
21:36 <@RangerZ> and other shows we deem fit
21:36 <@RangerZ> Mr Robot, etc.
21:36 < _NSAKEY> It needs to have a negative version.
21:37 <@klixa> mr robot doesnt seem to be in any danger of being cancelled...They are always trying to get rid of Halt and Catch Fire tho
21:37 < _NSAKEY> Something that spews out such gems of positivity as "I wish the Kardashians would get gassed already."
21:38 <@klixa> i seriously cannot understand why ANYONE would wanna watch that type of show
21:38 < _NSAKEY> klixa: So true. Halt and Catch Fire is great, too, since they shifted the focus last season.
21:38 <@RangerZ> its going to be aggregate data... so 'positive/negative' isn't going to matter
21:38 <@klixa> i <3 Halt and Catch Fire...and yeah season 2 was 20 times better than season 1
21:38 <@RangerZ> b/c.... "there is no such thing as bad press"
21:38 <@RangerZ> look at the nonsense of "baby boo boo " or w/e her name was
21:38 <@klixa> Honey Boo Boo
21:39 <@klixa> and i only know cause i watch South PArk
21:39 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: More gas chamber fodder, as far as I'm concerned.
21:39 <@RangerZ> _NSAKEY: who pissed in your cheerios this week?
21:39 <@klixa> I think people watch osmething liek Honey Boo Boo for the same reason they watch a train wreck
21:39 <@RangerZ> you just want to kill everyone
21:39 <@klixa> but the Kardashians? what does it appeal to
21:39 < _NSAKEY> You guys were talking about Jersey Shore earlier. The only exposure I've ever had to Jersey Shore was when Beavis and Butthead had its revival, and they spent the video segments making fun of it.
21:39 <@RangerZ> tween girls
21:40 <@klixa> south park made fun of jersey shore too
21:40 < _NSAKEY> MTV also killed Beavis and Butthead the 2nd time around because their target audience is 11 year old girls.
21:40 < _NSAKEY> klixa: But Beavis and Butthead did it for almost every video segment.
21:40 < _NSAKEY> They took reality shows on MTV and replaced the music videos for the season they did a few years back.
21:40 <@klixa> i barely remeber beavis and butthead...i watched it when i was like 14
21:40 < _NSAKEY> It was funny in the sense that MTV doesn't do music anymore.
21:41 < _NSAKEY> It also made sense because of all the rent-seeking in the music industry.
21:41 <@klixa> King of the Hill was the only good thing to come from Beavis and BUtthead
21:41 < _NSAKEY> There was some article about how they were wanting to use some artist's video in one of those segments, and the artist was all about it.
21:41 < _NSAKEY> Some person with a song writing credit on the song said no, and that killed the deal.
21:42 <@RangerZ> I remember watching the first two seasons of road trip and .... the 'house party' or w/e they named it... that was basically the start of the 'reality tv' genre
21:42 <@oddball> No love for Daria?
21:42 <@RangerZ> they weren't bad... b/c they were new/kinda interesting... but even by the 3rd season it got less and less intersting...
21:42 <@klixa> i nevr liked Daria
21:42 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: My biggest problem right now is essentially being trapped.
21:42 <@RangerZ> Daria... why would I need to give my ex(s) more love
21:43 <@RangerZ> 3/4 of the girls I've dated are basically Daria
21:43 <@klixa> RangerZ: ugh
21:43 <@klixa> shes so monotone and depressing
21:43 <@klixa> if i were i guy, id datea a Quinn...but never a daria
21:46 < _NSAKEY> This is an example of Beavis and Butthead vs Jersey Shore: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlVrM14ss0w
21:46 < PigBot> Title: Beavis and Butthead make fun of Jersey Shore - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/npb6azc
22:01 <@klixa> theres links on the side to where they make fun of teen mom...so appranetly they were making fun of lots of shows
22:02 < _NSAKEY> If it was an MTV reality show, they probably made fun of it.
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