--- Log opened Sun Jan 17 00:00:25 2016
01:06 <@Dagmar> Well... I've no idea where I put them.
01:06 <@Dagmar> Maybe I'll get lucky and Wal-mart will actually be selling some
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01:44 < RangerZ1> well... after ~10 hours of sleep...
01:45 < RangerZ1> I wonder if Dagmar has had his fill of comcast assholes
01:45 < RangerZ1> lol
02:11 < RangerZ1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B69L4UYvu2k this is funny..... and sad....
02:11 < PigBot> Title: Can You Tell These Duke Nukem and Donald Trump Quotes Apart? - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/zm3w4fn
02:51 <@Dagmar> I am absolutely going to be a monster tomorrow if they call me without having even looked at what's going on with the account.
02:52 <@Dagmar> Also, for the record, #8 screws have the wrong threading for a VESA mount.  Wal-Mart only carries imperial screws so... Home Depot in the morning, since I *know* they have M4 screws.
02:58 <@Dagmar> ...and because I am a bastard...  see the comments https://plus.google.com/113693057660900707462/posts/Gm1d38mEREi
02:58 < PigBot> Title: Google+ (at plus.google.com) http://tinyurl.com/jxh9l3g
03:01 < RangerZ1> ohhh
03:01 < RangerZ1> you ARE a bastard
03:04 <@Dagmar> The latter link, the guy actually did a blue waffle picture
03:05 <@Dagmar> Honestly I think the original image was just a set-up for someone to _ask_ about blue waffles.  :)
03:24 < RangerZ1> thats like a post with different parties posted, green, libertarian, democratic, republican, etc
03:25 < RangerZ1> and you ask about lemon
03:35 <@Dagmar> Odd.  I don't remember showing you my political flyers for 2008
03:44 < RangerZ1> nope
03:45 < RangerZ1> never seen them, heard mention of you putting up 'lemon party' posters near an election
03:45 < RangerZ1> but that was about it
04:09 < RangerZ1> http://venturebeat.com/2016/01/16/lead-developer-quits-bitcoin-saying-it-has-failed/
04:09 < RangerZ1> interesting
05:37 < aestetix> hahahhaa
05:37 < aestetix> Honestly I would vote for lemon party at this point
07:24 < RangerZ1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq9loRXNP38
07:24 < PigBot> Title: The Game That Tackles Grief & Cancer - The Lobby - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/jsx7dyh
07:24 < RangerZ1> http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/that-dragon-cancer-review/1900-6416330/ the actual review
07:24 < PigBot> Title: That Dragon, Cancer Review - GameSpot (at www.gamespot.com) http://tinyurl.com/zjwueaa
07:33 < RangerZ1> aestetix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auaGGAJsDNY don't know if you saw this one
07:33 < PigBot> Title: New York Wants to Ban the Sale of Encrypted Smartphones - IGN News - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/hjb5pbt
07:33 < RangerZ1> but figured you'd "enjoy" it.... lol _NSAKEY you too
09:10 <@Evilpig> this rsync needs to go faster I want to see some load on this new server
09:15 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ1: Yeah, that proposed law is incredibly stupid.
09:22 <@Evilpig> look at it sing.  lol  https://www.dropbox.com/s/ke9iud03au0pjby/Screenshot%202016-01-17%2009.22.11.png?dl=0
09:22 < PigBot> Title: Dropbox - Screenshot 2016-01-17 09.22.11.png (at www.dropbox.com) http://tinyurl.com/jzhb6gu
09:53 < aestetix> Is it just me or is Kylo Ren a millennial pussy
10:06 <@RangerZ> aestetix: nah, that's an over simplification
10:06 <@RangerZ> its hard to build up a character's internal emotions/struggles in a movie... let alone one where it has as much to cover/as much baggage as ep 7
10:06 <@RangerZ> also, I think the law in NY is actually kinda brilliant
10:07 <@RangerZ> gets around the legal issues of "is encryption legal" or not, and makes it a commercial regulation, which states have the right to do
10:08 <@RangerZ> "brilliant" != "good idea"
10:10 <@RangerZ> and lets be honest, its not like some manf. won't "give in"
10:11 <@RangerZ> then you'll have a steeper economic-divide because "sale" is legally where the seller is, not where the buyer is, so it would be legal to buy the encrypted phone online or via mail order.
10:11 <@RangerZ> So you'd get apple stores just helping people "order" their phone online, and have it shipped from Cali, etc.
10:12 <@RangerZ> whereas people who can't afford that high level, will go to walmart, etc... and get crap phones
10:12 < _NSAKEY> The people who buy their phones from wal-mart aren't going to go into an apple store anyway.
10:13 <@RangerZ> that's my point
10:13 <@RangerZ> and more phones are sold at walmart/etc than apple stores
10:13 <@RangerZ> so it becomes an economic divide
10:13 < _NSAKEY> America's at a point where some big company like Apple can just say, "Fuck you, we're not obeying this law" and... Nothing will happen to them because of it.
10:13 <@RangerZ> the rich will have phones that are secure, but the poor won't
10:14 < _NSAKEY> "Secure" being relative.
10:14 <@Evilpig> LOL I have 48GB of ram and yet something is still writing to the swap file.  
10:14 <@RangerZ> as all things are
10:14 < _NSAKEY> Google promised full disk crypto by default but backed off from that promise.
10:14 <@RangerZ> which is _my point_ , apple will get around it by "selling" the phones from Cali, or something
10:14 <@RangerZ> and google's biggest issue is device manf.
10:15 < _NSAKEY> Or better yet, ship from New Jersey or another neighboring state.
10:15 <@RangerZ> device manf. don't want to have to invest in "mobile TPM"-like circuits
10:15 <@RangerZ> IIRC apple's is built into their CPU
10:15 <@RangerZ> and other manf. don't want to do that
10:15 < _NSAKEY> At this point though, Apple has so much cash in reserve that they could buy the vote on this bill and sink it.
10:16 <@RangerZ> why would they?
10:16 <@RangerZ> they could 'get around it'
10:16 <@RangerZ> and then use it for PR
10:16 < _NSAKEY> Because companies hire lobbyists.
10:16 < _NSAKEY> Because that would be annoying.
10:16 <@RangerZ> "buy an iPhone, because we respect your privacy"
10:16 <@RangerZ> etc
10:17 <@RangerZ> until it's a -national- issue, it's a joke for them
10:17 < _NSAKEY> I think it would be funnier if they openly violated the law and dared the state to padlock the apple stores, but I don't see them doing that.
10:19 < _NSAKEY> Apple's (probably) not that brave, and the state would have a PR disaster on its hands.
10:20 < _NSAKEY> They don't care about the voters who are poor, but Apple skews toward the rich, and imagine the hand-wringing from a lot of random rich people who can't take their iDevices to the Genius Bar because the state passed a law and enforced it.
10:21 <@RangerZ> see, you're missing that point
10:22 <@RangerZ> nothing about 'not fixing' or anything
10:22 <@RangerZ> just not 'selling'
10:22 <@RangerZ> apple would make out like bandits by increasing sales
10:23 < _NSAKEY> No, I get your point completely.
10:23 < _NSAKEY> They just ship the phones from NJ or another neighboring state, and the apple store becomes a showroom where you can play with the device before ordering.
10:23 < _NSAKEY> My version of how they do things would be far funnier, because it would lead to a bunch of pissed off rich people who can't get service at all until the state repeals the law.
10:24 < _NSAKEY> They will probably just do something like what you're proposing, but it would be way more comical if they forced the state of NY's hand.
10:25 <@RangerZ> they would force it
10:25 <@RangerZ> but with PR/marketing
10:25 < _NSAKEY> The state would probably just leave the law on the books in your scenario.
10:26 < _NSAKEY> Because the rich people who go into apple stores and buy stuff would be merely inconvenienced, not forced to drive out of state just to get their Genius Bar fix.
10:27 <@RangerZ> the 'fix' would be in state
10:27 < _NSAKEY> Regardless of what happens, the state of NY is going to look really stupid for passing this, because Apple's going to run circles around them.
10:27 <@RangerZ> ohh, its not going to pass
10:27 <@RangerZ> not until they have a case to show a 'reason' for it, or they slip it into a budget
10:29 < _NSAKEY> They're already claiming to HAVE reasons for it NOW.
10:29 < _NSAKEY> That's the thing.
10:29 < _NSAKEY> That's why it's even being proposed.
10:44 <@RangerZ> yeah, but they will need ones that hold up under public scrutiny
10:45 <@RangerZ> but that will come quick when a child porn-er gets caught, but his phone is encrypted
10:55 < _NSAKEY> They're always scarce on the details for these cases, so I doubt they'll even bother waiting that long.
11:05 < aestetix> RangerZ: I finally watched your video. It was depressing as hell.
11:05 < aestetix> I'm debating writing a piece on why conservative and liberal as words no longer mean anything.
11:11 <@oddball> You'll just a bunch of self important blowhards telling you that that's why the left now uses the word "progressive."
11:20 < aestetix> Indeed.
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11:52 <@Dagmar> Holy shit
11:53 <@Dagmar> I just got off the phone with idiot support and the lady actually asked if I'd cleared my fucking cache
11:53 <@Dagmar> That's it. I'm just going to call and abuse them
11:56 <@RangerZ> can you setup a camera? and record it?
11:56 <@RangerZ> it might help in your legal defense
11:56 <@Dagmar> I am recording these already
11:56 <@RangerZ> also.... would be great viewing for us
11:56 <@RangerZ> lol
11:56 <@RangerZ> http://www.pcgamer.com/consortium-has-a-free-steam-weekendand-you-get-to-keep-the-game/
11:56 < PigBot> Title: Consortium has a free Steam weekend—and you get to keep the game - PC Gamer (at www.pcgamer.com) http://tinyurl.com/hvbsrle
11:57 <@Dagmar> I am just going to be calling and abusing them today
11:57 <@Dagmar> That I was supposed to speaking to someone with a *working* brain today and I got YET ANOTHER MOTHERFUCKER READING CUE CARDS...
11:57 <@Dagmar> Because seriously... clear my cookies and cache?
11:58 <@RangerZ> just ask to speak to a manager directly when they pick up
11:59 <@Evilpig> why aren't you dealing with tier2 by now?
12:00 <@Dagmar> That's what I'm asking for right now
12:14 < aestetix> what is consortium?
12:17 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: You should have been demanding tier 2 about a week ago.
12:17 < _NSAKEY> Just be all, "Put the script down and escalate me. I already know you can't help."
12:18 <@Dagmar> Okay.  I just alphabet-souped the guy and I'm getting someone in a different department who might know what they're doing now
12:19 < _NSAKEY> My experience has been to just keep talking over them and demanding escalation, and they will cave within about 30 seconds.
12:19 < aestetix> Dagmar: are they at least American?
12:19 < _NSAKEY> I'm going to hope you're getting kicked to an equally clueless department, because that enhances the amusement of the rest of the channel.
12:19 <@Dagmar> Yeah this last guy was
12:20 <@Dagmar> THe girl I spoke with previously was some form of Asian and between her accent and the crap heatset and noisy cube farm I could barely understand her
12:20 <@Dagmar> er headset
12:20 <@Dagmar> If there had been less noise or more bandwidth for VOIP, it would have been dfine
12:26 < aestetix> Dagmar: maybe if you're lucky you'll get Evilpig
12:27 <@RangerZ> aestetix:  [Dimension W] you asked if there was any anime worth watching, and that's one that is airing right now. Only 2 eps out, but I think it might actually be relevant to the discussion earlier about banning encryption, and some other related topics (gotta see where it goes with the story)
12:28 <@Dagmar> Oh god the guy just told me I have "Extreme Internet 105".
12:28 <@Dagmar> [12:27]
12:28 <@Dagmar> ...now he's telling me he was looking at the wrong account.
12:28 <@Dagmar> That's after I questioned whether or not that was a program they even offer
12:31 < _NSAKEY> Comcast seems to be unable to look at the correct accounts these days.
12:31 < _NSAKEY> That seems to be a company-wide problem.
12:31 <@RangerZ> I like how the "american" I talked to ... was named "beth"
12:31 <@Dagmar> Someone _changed_ something connected to the old cablemodem in the system
12:31 <@RangerZ> HE was quite good at speaking English
12:32 <@RangerZ> I don't think he understood the name he picked though...
12:41 <@Dagmar> OKay, I basically just _told_ that guy I'm going to make them all YouTube stars
12:44 < _NSAKEY> What did he say?
12:44 <@Dagmar> Well, he got real quiet
12:44 <@Dagmar> I was rather detailed in my prediction
12:45 <@Dagmar> In theory, someone will be calling me back in the next few hours
12:45 <@Dagmar> I made the prediction of misery and ruin because he started saying everything looks fine again
12:45 <@Dagmar> I'm saying, this shit _reeks_ of QoS
12:45 <@Dagmar> _Bad_ QoS at that
12:45 <@Dagmar> At 3.6M/s none of _my_ shit is bottlenecked, but DNS starts to fail
12:46 <@Dagmar> So... I know it's not the goddamn firewall biox
12:46 <@Dagmar> I can still punch quite a bit of traffic through to the internal interface on the firewall at the same time
12:46 <@RangerZ> actually Dagmar, you should have had THEM tell you what modem you were using
12:47 <@Dagmar> I'm still shocked the lady tried to pass off the "EOL" excuse
12:47 <@RangerZ> b/c that failed firmware flash sounds like they didn't realize your modem changed
12:47 <@RangerZ> EOL ?
12:47 <@RangerZ> wtf
12:47 <@RangerZ> -what- was EOL ? the modem?
12:47 <@Dagmar> It sounds to me like they've fucked up their configs for this type of modem
12:47 <@RangerZ> umm...
12:47 <@Dagmar> Yeah the _new_ modem has apparently been declared EOL by Comcast because "it can't support the highest speeds"
12:47 <@RangerZ> that modem does ~360 Mbps down
12:48 <@Dagmar> I'm like, that's nice but this one can support the "Extreme 250 Internet" speed which is as fast as they're offering here
12:48 <@RangerZ> how 'new' of a modem do they want
12:48 <@Dagmar> They want us to buy modems that are capable of gigabit transit.
12:48 <@Dagmar> Otherwise, when Google Fiber comes to town, all these Comcast customers will have modems incapable of letting Comcast pretend to be offering the same class of service
12:48 <@RangerZ> "well them ma'am, upgrade my service to gigabit, and I'll buy a modem that does that, also... you need to do that for free for me"
12:49 <@RangerZ> it would also allow them to 'stealth' upgrade service like they did a few months ago
12:49 <@Dagmar> I just told the lady flat out that whether or not the modem had been declared EOL has nothing to do with the fact that it's entirely compatible with the class of service I'm supposed to be getting
12:49 <@RangerZ> basically doubling my service from 50/~9 to 90/15
12:52 <@Dagmar> Yeah cogswellcogs (one of the Ingressers) is getting 90
12:52 <@Dagmar> ...and he's on an SB6121.
12:52 <@RangerZ> hell... that's not even it... the modem -they- gave me ... [300 megabits per second]
12:53 <@RangerZ> the one you have is fucking -faster- than this one
12:53 <@Dagmar> Yeah, this modem is more than capable of performing at the proper spee
12:53 <@Dagmar> d
12:53 <@Dagmar> THey're just fucking up
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12:53 <@Dagmar> THeir billing people coulnd't tell me why the Xfinity website shows I have "Economy" internet
12:54 <@sasquatc4> hmm, interesting new scam, looks like i got a charge from justgiving.com, some way to setup charity donations
12:54 <@sasquatc4> so looks like people are using it to launder money
12:54 <@RangerZ> nice
12:55 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: So... you're still in a residential class of service with Comcast?
12:55 <@RangerZ> yeah
12:55 <@Dagmar> ...or are you on business contract now as well?
12:55 <@RangerZ> nope, I gave up on "business"
12:55 <@RangerZ> since its fucking lower level of service for more money
12:56 <@RangerZ> and doesn't even come with static IP, you have to pay extra for that
12:56 <@Dagmar> When you login to Comcast's website, what does it say your "Internet plan" is?
12:56 <@RangerZ> worst case I spend 30$/mo to get "unlimited' bandwidth
12:56 <@RangerZ> it say "fuck Dagmar" for some reason
12:56 <@Dagmar> ...because mine says "Economy", and I suspect that's the real problem
12:57 <@RangerZ> lets let their slow as shit site load....
12:57 <@Dagmar> yeah they need someone to beat their webmasters over that
12:57 <@RangerZ> um...
12:57 <@RangerZ> it says 'economy' now too
12:58 <@Dagmar> Okay, so this might be a red herring in that their website is fuckin' broken
12:59 <@RangerZ> wtf
12:59 <@RangerZ> Recurring Charges      $65.00 PROFESSIONAL INSTALL $50.00 SELF INSTALL KIT $15.00
12:59 <@Dagmar> How the shit...
13:00 <@RangerZ> Ohh I'm going to have fun next month
13:00 <@Evilpig> they just don't know the definition of recurring
13:00 <@Evilpig> how did you have a professional install with a self-install kit, also
13:01 <@RangerZ> I have no idea...
13:01 <@RangerZ> it won't show up until my next billing cycle
13:01 <@RangerZ> which starts the 18th
13:01 <@Dagmar> Since when do we pay to install things ourselves?
13:01 <@RangerZ> you pay 10$ to have them mail it to you
13:02 <@Dagmar> I bought mine at BestBuy
13:02 <@RangerZ> which is why I went to their office and spent _hours_ waiting
13:02 <@RangerZ> well... I walked in... got my ticket #, walked out... went and got lunch.... relaxed... came back and waited 5 minutes
13:02 <@RangerZ> lol
13:02 < aestetix> wait
13:03 < aestetix> how are those recurring charges?
13:03 <@Evilpig> I should get a shower and head over to target to get a shower curtain
13:03 <@RangerZ> I think their  site is just fucked right now
13:05 < aestetix> kill whitey
13:05 < aestetix> http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/17/science/drug-overdoses-propel-rise-in-mortality-rates-of-young-whites.html
13:05 < PigBot> "Couldn't snarf url: HTTP Error 303: The HTTP server returned a redirect error that would lead to an infinite loop.\nThe last 30x error message was:\nSee Other. http://tinyurl.com/h3hqgmg"
13:06 <@Dagmar> Got an ingress thing at 2pm that I should get ready for (down in the Cool Springs area)
13:12 <@sasquatc4> yay, and new credit card on the way
13:13 <@sasquatc4> apparently they tried to charge some shit at iforex first a couple of days ago to run it through there, and those didnt even show up cause they were declined
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15:58 <@RangerZ> ohh... that's nice
15:58 <@RangerZ> MS SE detected git/perl.exe and wants me to send it to MS because it doesn't know if it's a 'virus' or not
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16:39 < _NSAKEY> Are any of you users of CTF365, or know anyone who is?
16:39 < _NSAKEY> Apparently it got hacked, and they stored passes in plaintext.
16:41 < dfused> why do ppl still keep doing this stupid shit
16:42 < _NSAKEY> Oh, nevermind. It's an old dump from 2014.
16:42 < _NSAKEY> Some insider apparently betrayed them and leaked it, and now the dump is back from the dead.
16:42 < dfused> lol dude wtf
16:42 < dfused> >50% are likely still valid passes
16:44 < _NSAKEY> If it was an insider, I could actually see someone modding the login page to dump user creds into a file.
16:44 < _NSAKEY> So, it's actually remotely possible that they weren't a plaintext offender.
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20:26 <@Dagmar> So... of course Comcast didn't actually call me back today
20:26 <@Dagmar> <-- not surprised
20:27 < dfused> indeed
20:27 <@Dagmar> Geez these guys are idiots
20:28 <@RangerZ> its a fucking joke looking at the debate on tv right now
20:28 <@RangerZ> they are showing maps and data
20:28 <@RangerZ> where is the fireworks and fact-free zone like the republicans?
20:28 <@Dagmar> hhe
20:29 <@RangerZ> ohh wait... its on in the middle of the night on a weekend.... DNC and Debbie Watzerland(sp?) Shultz got her way.... no on is going to see the debates :/
20:30 < dfused> fuck.....I'm out of beer and I reallllllly want a cigarette
20:30 < dfused> guess its time for the liquor ....and perhaps a cigar?
20:33 <@Evilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/xgljonm5h29yn05/Screenshot%202016-01-17%2020.32.56.png?dl=0
20:33 <@Evilpig> 13!!
20:33 < PigBot> Title: Dropbox - Screenshot 2016-01-17 20.32.56.png (at www.dropbox.com) http://tinyurl.com/z9qc4wg
20:35 < dfused> jesus fuck....really??? straight outta compton?
20:35 <@Evilpig> that's what you focus on?  lol
20:36 < dfused> yeah well.... its either that or avatar
20:36 <@RangerZ> dfused: funnest part about that movie...
20:37 <@RangerZ> two white people are the only people who got nominated for oscars from it
20:37 <@RangerZ> funniest*
20:37 < dfused> lol thats awful
20:37 <@Evilpig> dfused: i'd give dcode shit about watching csi: cyber
20:37 <@RangerZ> this year's oscars is a fucking joke
20:38 <@RangerZ> all actors/actresses are white
20:38 <@RangerZ> and almost all black films got snubbed
20:38 < dfused> yeah theres been some twitter shit on that
20:39 < dfused> Evilpig:  i've not watched that version yet
20:39 <@Evilpig> don't
20:39  * dfused is currently watching Nurse Jackie.....which is actually funny as hell
20:41 < dfused> Evilpig:  so, I take it you've gotten that noise issue remedied?
20:44 <@Evilpig> mostly
20:44 <@Evilpig> I might work on it more later but it's tolerable now
20:44 <@Evilpig> I can't hear it in my bedroom, and when i'm in the kitchen any noise in there covers it up
20:44 <@Evilpig> sitting right next to it is still a little noisy but not datacenter level obnoxious
20:45 < dfused> so you can watch a movei /o issue?
20:45 < dfused> movie
20:47 <@Evilpig> easily
20:47 <@Evilpig> but I don't have a tv in the livingroom anyhow.  lol
20:47 < dfused> hah
20:48 <@Evilpig> I plan on putting one out there, but it'll be a bit
20:49 < dfused> meh its bad for your health
20:50 <@RangerZ> jesus.... I never thought I'd spend THIS MUCH time editing videos
20:50 <@RangerZ> at this point I could intern for a video editor position... :/
20:50 <@Dagmar> It's so _very_ tedious
20:50 < dfused> RangerZ:  hey....no whining.  you asked for this shit.....you stepped into it
20:51 < dfused> or better yet....just get better at it
20:53 <@Dagmar> Oh holy shit
20:53 <@Dagmar> fuuuuuuuck comcast
20:53 <@RangerZ> down to 1 Mbps?
20:53 <@Dagmar> Note the firmware message at http://forums.xfinity.com/t5/Basic-Internet-Connectivity-And/SB6141-Incompatible-SW-file/td-p/2635953
20:53 < PigBot> Title: SB6141 Incompatible SW file - Comcast Help and Support Forums (at forums.xfinity.com) http://tinyurl.com/gra3wl8
20:53 <@RangerZ> possibly 56k?
20:53 <@Dagmar> d11_m_sb6141_speedtierextreme2_c01.cm
20:53 <@Dagmar> ...and what do *I* see?  SW Download INIT - Via Config file d11_m_sb6141_default_c01.cm
20:54 <@Dagmar> So... they're definitely just pushing the wrong fucking config image
20:56 <@RangerZ> Dagmar: all I know is.... get this sorted out by next month
20:56 <@RangerZ> that way I don't have to deal with it ;) hehe
20:56 <@RangerZ> (that is... if comcast still exists in a month after what Dagmar is planning in his mind)
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21:14 <@RangerZ> http://www.fudzilla.com/news/39691-microsoft-to-only-support-windows-10-on-intel-kaby-lake-amd-bristol-ridge-snapdragon-820
21:14 <@RangerZ> well that's shitty
21:15 < PigBot> Title: Microsoft to only support Windows 10 on Intel Kaby Lake, AMD Bristol Ridge, Snapdragon 820 (at www.fudzilla.com) http://tinyurl.com/j68qejp
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21:31 < RangerZ1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKL8YbKVrbY
21:31 < PigBot> Title: Snow? Whaaaaat? - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/hgwyccr
21:31 < RangerZ1> I'll let you think up your own punchlines about that one
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