--- Log opened Sat Jan 16 00:00:20 2016
02:03 <@Dagmar> I know this girl is an amateur actress, but even though it's only artificial suffering I think it's hilarious
02:03 <@Dagmar> https://www.facebook.com/CubanSwagPapi/videos/1058255314231888/?theater
02:04 < PigBot> Title: Comments (at www.facebook.com) http://tinyurl.com/zzxzf4c
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05:24 < RangerZ1> obviously he wants -real- suffering
05:42 < aestetix> vagina
06:03 < RangerZ1> speaking of germany's suffering
06:17 < RangerZ1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMW0w30HyeU man.... AMD actually throwing down the gauntlet against sysmark
06:17 < PigBot> Title: Truth or Myth?: Is SYSmark a Reliable Benchmark? - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/h2zfxp8
06:18 < RangerZ1> even if their argument isn't 100% convincing (if sysmark is suppose to test thing 'other' than CPU), Watching companies fight is amusing
07:01 < aestetix> you know
07:01 < aestetix> I just went through vimtutor for the first time, ever
07:01 < aestetix> I actually learned a couple tricks out of it.
07:09 < RangerZ1> yeah, I have ran into things like that before after using something for years
07:10 < RangerZ1> so.... 4~5 hours to write + record screen capture of how to use logcat in android
07:10 < RangerZ1> and then ~2 hours of video editing
07:11 < RangerZ1> and I still have to record the intro/outro headshot video parts + make titles
07:11 < RangerZ1> so its like ~10hrs of work to make a 10min video :/
09:33 < aestetix> RangerZ1: here's a level up from vimtutor: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialAdvanced_vi.html
09:33 < PigBot> Title: VI and VIM editor: Tutorial and advanced features (at www.yolinux.com) http://tinyurl.com/kvp7n
09:33 < aestetix> I'm actually impressed by how much that is normally done with plugins can actually be accomplished using standard vim and unix
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12:32 < RangerZ1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO-gVhcUz1Y
12:32 < PigBot> Title: New York Wants to Ban the Sale of Encrypted Smartphones - IGN News - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/jmtwva6
12:34  * RangerZ1 invests in Pitchforks-R-US INC.
12:48 < RangerZ1> also its only one politician (so far)
13:23 <@Dagmar> Okay... There's a new one on me
13:23 <@Dagmar> Google Rewards had three questions for me today
13:24 <@Dagmar> THe first one was apparently a "is this person a bot" question because it asked if I've foraged for truffles "(black or white truffles)" recently.
13:24 <@Dagmar> <-- still not a pig
13:28 < RangerZ1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3t4Zj8UVAo
13:28 < PigBot> Title: Howard Dean Has Sold Out – Now Working As Big Pharma Lobbyist - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/hv9n2fk
13:28 < RangerZ1> I watched the interview on All In with him on, and I was like "WTF, this isn't what you have been saying for the past 10 years or so"
13:28 < RangerZ1> ....this explains it...
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14:11 <@Dagmar> Oh that 'Wilson Chronicles' thing... So beta it's not even remotely worth downloading.
14:27 <@Dagmar> Man... Comcast is so wasting my fuckign time
14:27 < RangerZ1> what speeds are you getting?
14:27 < RangerZ1> also that is why I got their cable modem for the first month
14:27 <@Dagmar> 3.6MB down
14:28 < RangerZ1> that way I could complain about shit speeds
14:28 <@Dagmar> That's about a third of what I should be seeing
14:29 <@Dagmar> Speedtest is showing 30Mbps down and 6.25Mbps up
14:29 < RangerZ1> http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5003098007
14:29 <@Dagmar> ...except everything that *isn't* Speedtest.net seems to involve a hard cap at 3.6MB
14:29 < PigBot> Title: Speedtest.net by Ookla - My Results (at www.speedtest.net) http://tinyurl.com/h8u5kw5
14:30 < RangerZ1> 215/30
14:30 <@Dagmar> Yeah that's the class of service I should be getting
14:30 <@Dagmar> I'll try later this weekend by connecting directly to the cablemodem, but I suspect I'm going to be calliung them up and yelling at them
14:31 < RangerZ1> my suggestion is to just have them mail you a modem and then connect that, THEN complain
14:31 <@Dagmar> I thought at first maybe the 100base-T NIC might have been the issue, but 3608KiB is what I was just looking at through the Android Studio update's interface
14:31 < RangerZ1> ....or.... you can go to the office and pick one up
14:31 <@Dagmar> Well, I'm considering reading them the riot act over the fact that the admin interface on the modem is now _worthless_ because they've even disabled the signal level reporting
14:32 < RangerZ1> huh?
14:32 <@Dagmar> THey've gone out of their way to make it impossible for a customer to acutally collect any kind of performance data
14:32 < RangerZ1> which modem did they give you? b/c mine has that
14:32 <@Dagmar> Right so... when I first fired this SB6141 up it acutally showed how many channels were in use and what the signal levels were
14:32 <@Dagmar> Now it does not
14:33 < RangerZ1> ohh
14:33 < RangerZ1> that means your connection wires are shit
14:33 <@Dagmar> It also doesn't log shit to the log page except for very occasionally logging some stuff I think they haven't figured out
14:33 < RangerZ1> I had that problem in the summer when I had that "series of splitters" issue
14:33 <@Dagmar> No, on the Signal page... the side of the table where the figures *would* go is empty
14:33 <@Dagmar> The cells in the table aren't even there
14:34 < RangerZ1> ....
14:34 < RangerZ1> I have my 160 Mbps modem that you can try out
14:34 <@Dagmar> I'm just going to to do one "connected straight to the modem" test and then I'm going to call and yell at them
14:35 < RangerZ1> I -only- got the modem from them b/c I figured I'd run into the same shit you are right now if I didn't... you know... murphey being my grandfather and .... well his laws
14:35 <@Dagmar> I'm not renting their fucking modem
14:35 <@Dagmar> ...and I'm not going to believe even for a second that this isn't something Comcast specifically set up
14:36 <@Dagmar> It's entirely too consistent in the way it's behaving
14:36 < RangerZ1> ohh I completely agree, b/c they are dicks that way... but I just didn't want to deal with it, and felt the 10$ for one month was worth it, lol
14:37 <@Dagmar> It pisses me off that this 8/4 modem isn't really going _any_ faster than the single-channel DOCSIS 2.0 modem I replaced was
14:37 <@Dagmar> WHich model cablemodem do you have there?
14:38 < RangerZ1> arris something let me look again
14:39 <@Dagmar> If it's SB6141 do me a quick favor and check the logs in the admin interface and tell me if you're getting the same d11_m_sb6141_default_c01.cm firmware blob I am?
14:39 < RangerZ1> tg1682g
14:39 <@Dagmar> Frankly I think COmcast has fucked up
14:39 <@Dagmar> SW Download INIT - Via Config file d11_m_sb6141_default_c01.cm
14:39 <@Dagmar> SW upgrade Failed after download - Incompatible SW file
14:39 < RangerZ1> ohh
14:40 < RangerZ1> thats "great"
14:40 <@Dagmar> Yeah
14:40 <@Dagmar> I think they're sending either the wrong TFTP image or a bad TFTP image
14:40 < RangerZ1> thats almost as good as when I was logged into my router
14:40 < RangerZ1> immediately after plugging it in.... it tells me that there is a new firmware for my router
14:40 < RangerZ1> I was like.... fuck no there isn't....
14:41 < RangerZ1> I was almost convinced fucking comcast was fucking with my router
14:41 < RangerZ1> apparently there -was- new FW that was released -that day-
14:41 <@Dagmar> Well, I'm going to reset this to factory defaults and reinit the thing and see if anything changes
14:42 < RangerZ1> hopefully that even works
14:42 <@Dagmar> I suspect that in the state it's in now the stats I am seeing are *because* it's only using a single channel for up/down
14:42 < RangerZ1> I wouldn't be surprised to find out they bricked it :/ lol
14:42 <@Dagmar> Cuz literally, this is the same speeds I had before
14:42 <@Dagmar> ...and I'm damn sure my communications path tot eh firewall is faster than this
14:42 < RangerZ1> did you "call to set it up" ?
14:43 <@Dagmar> Hell they had a technician come out here
14:43 < RangerZ1> ahh
14:43 <@Dagmar> I think he just assumed they'd do things correctly up the line
14:44 <@Dagmar> Going offline now
14:46 <@Dagmar> OKay.
14:47 <@Dagmar> I'm surprised I didn't lose my IRC session there
14:48 <@Dagmar> Same shit speeds as before
14:49 <@Dagmar> ...and with their config image, it didn't even log what configuration file it got that time
14:52 < RangerZ1> so... you're calling in about.... 3 minutes?
14:52 < RangerZ1> lol
14:52 <@Dagmar> I'm goign to shower, eat some lunch, and have a cigarette first
14:52 <@Dagmar> THEN I'm going to have "Comcast Rep Ass" for desert
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15:38 < _NSAKEY> The URL made me laugh about as much as the content: http://structbio.vanderbilt.edu/comp/irix-build-ssh.php
15:38 < PigBot> Title: Building OpenSSH on the IRIX platform (at structbio.vanderbilt.edu) http://tinyurl.com/6sdk4cy
15:39 <@Dagmar> Holy shit how about "upgrade to a release of IRIX from this decade"
15:39 <@Dagmar> ...and what the fuck are they thinking using cc over gcc
15:40 <@Dagmar> Holy galloping thundershits no
15:41 < _NSAKEY> That means they're using mipspro, right?
15:42 < _NSAKEY> If so, I remember reading a few years back that mipspro > gcc on IRIX, in certain situations.
15:43 < _NSAKEY> And there ISN'T a release of IRIX from this decade, depending on how you want to count.
15:43 <@Dagmar> Thos situations would all be stupid
15:43 <@Dagmar> EVery last fucking one of them
15:43 < _NSAKEY> 6.5.30 was released in 2006 and supported until 2013.
15:43 <@Dagmar> For IRIX you just throw out all their shit and build your own goddamn GCC
15:43 <@Dagmar> ...becuase it will pass it's own self-tests.
15:43 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: As I recall, the situations were along the lines of, "The same code runs faster when compiled on mipspro vs gcc."
15:44 <@Dagmar> There's "faster" and there's "occasionally fucking segfaults",.
15:44 < _NSAKEY> I never fooled with it that much, so I wouldn't know from personal experience.
15:44 <@Dagmar> OpenSSH doesn't need to be omgoptimize, and openssl _definitely_ doesn't need to be omgoptimized.  They need to be reliably correct in their operation
15:44 <@Dagmar> _NSAKEY: Back at that medical management records madhouse, IRIX and HP/UX were our two primary platforms
15:45 < _NSAKEY> That sounds terrible.
15:45 <@Dagmar> SGI doesn't even run the self-test suites for half the stuff they ship
15:45 < _NSAKEY> The only reason I found that page is because I googled "irix openssh," to see if anyone had built a more modern ssh version for it.
15:45 <@Dagmar> So literally, if the binary came from SGI, you rebuild gcc for _starters_
15:45 <@Dagmar> If you want faster, you then compile _binutils_, and then rebuild gcc.
15:46 < _NSAKEY> Was that before or after they started bleeding cash because intel ate their lunch?
15:46 <@Dagmar> Dude I'm surprised they had the staff to maintain any contracts into 2013
15:46 <@Dagmar> I can only assume it was government contracts which are generally somewhat immortal
15:46 < _NSAKEY> They still have FTPs up of old files.
15:46 < _NSAKEY> Probably.
15:47 < _NSAKEY> They liked to market the use of their workstations in Hollywood, but gov contracts were their bread and butter.
15:47 <@Dagmar> One of the more spectacular fails was that I had to start rolling my own fucking dev environment because their _shipped_ perl binary segfaulted
15:47 <@Dagmar> ...on code like this:  foreach (@anyarrayhere) { };
15:48 <@Dagmar> I shit you not, just running foreach on an array directly woudl crash it
15:48 <@Dagmar> You had to generate a list within parens to use foreach
15:49 <@Dagmar> i.e., foreach (0 .. count(@array)) {}; would work (except count is made up because I can't remember how to get the highest number in an array)
15:52 < aestetix> how the hell does that make it sigfault?
15:52 < _NSAKEY> That's hilarious.
15:52 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Because mipspro is made of straw and used bubble gum? That's the sense I'm getting from reading Dagmar's chats.
15:53 <@Dagmar> aestetix: I have _no_ idea.  I just know I had to fix a few things in that particular version of of perl's configure tests because of IRIX quirks
15:53 < aestetix> that would break.... like every perl script
15:53 <@Dagmar> I.e., I _know_ SGI wasn't running the test harness for their perl build
15:54 <@Dagmar> Keep in mind these are the same people who were shipping O2's as webservers with a BIOS setting to go to sleep after 2.5 hours of inactivity
15:54 <@Dagmar> Pardon me, _shutdown_, not just go to sleep
15:55 <@Dagmar> ...and since it was an OpenBIOS thing like Solaris, you'd actually see the shutdown invocation in your logs, coming from apparently _nowhere_
15:57 <@Dagmar> THat was the series of incidents that led me going into the 8th ave skyscraper at 2am wearing my fucking muppet raver duds
15:57 <@Dagmar> Our primary LOB server just powered off.  I am six blocks away.  What am I going to tell my bosses if I don't go in there?  That's I wasn'
15:57 <@Dagmar> t dressed appropriately?
16:00 < aestetix> Was this recent?
16:00 <@Dagmar> Telling them that it shut down because he hadn't had a single visitor to teh site in several hours wasn't likely to be well-recieved either
16:00 < aestetix> Because that would have been hilarious
16:00 <@Dagmar> 97-98, somewhere in there
16:00 < aestetix> oh
16:00 < aestetix> And now if you go to a rave you're the crepy old guy with the bald spot
16:00 <@Dagmar> Nope
16:01 <@Dagmar> It's a shame your'e going bald but I'm not
16:01 < aestetix> I am not
16:01 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: on the other hand...
16:01 <@Dagmar> He also shaves his head so it's not an issue
16:01 < _NSAKEY> ^^^^^
16:01 < aestetix> so you're just teh creepy old guy
16:02 < _NSAKEY> Unlike you guys, I actually WANT all of my hair to fall out. Less shaving.
16:02 <@Dagmar> Neither one of us are "creepy".
16:02 <@Dagmar> "Scary" perhaps but not creepy
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17:35 <@Dagmar> OKay.  THat was a waste of fuckin' time.
17:36 < dfused> god bless tech support.
17:36 <@Dagmar> I thought maybe... just maybe, I was overlooking something and the firewall was the bottleneck
17:36 <@Dagmar> ...so I connected the cablemodem directly to my desktop.
17:36 <@Dagmar> No difference.
17:36 <@Dagmar> I think COmcast has some rate-limiting shit in place
17:37 < dfused> hell I thought by now everyone thought that
17:37 <@Dagmar> Rate-limiting me to 3.6MB/s when I'm paying for more than that?
17:37 < dfused> ow
17:37 <@Dagmar> Yeah RangerZ posted a speedtest result earler that's nearly 10x the speed I'm gettign
17:38 <@Dagmar> Mine is this http://www.speedtest.net/result/5003419553.png
17:38 <@Dagmar> ...which is kind of crap even _ignoring_ the fact that Comcast games that
17:38 < dfused> all ISPs play that game
17:39 < dfused> but yeah......
17:40 < dfused> I'm still batting mine over their sudden bog down every few days around 10pm.... ping times into the 1000s...hang there for a half hour-ish....and then normal. they say they dont see anything.
17:40 < dfused> but I'm even seeing the ping times spike from a remote monitor I'm doing from two diff servers in ATL and singapore
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18:05 <@Dagmar> OKay.  THAT lady started talking to me about a rented modem again
18:05 <@Dagmar> I'm like, "No, I umm... absolutely am not using a rented modem, and I have never used a rented modem."
18:09 < dfused> and they wonder why we lose our minds
18:12 <@Dagmar> I"m about to start using "unprofessional language"
18:14 < dfused> meh at first level they are used to it and tune you out
18:14 <@Dagmar> Hly fuckin shit
18:15 <@Dagmar> So... my bundled services lists "X1 Starter Extreme Dbl" whatever that is
18:15 <@Dagmar> My "current services" shows "Economy" for internet
18:17 <@Dagmar> Jesus
18:17 <@Dagmar> THey have two different sets of information for my cablemodem(s) in their system
18:17 < dfused> hye...at least you're on to something now
18:18 <@Dagmar> Yes but it's just more _horrifying_ thigns
18:19 < dfused> I know I know....but really better than "we dont think there's a problem" or... "if you rented shit from us, it might be fixed"
18:19 <@Dagmar> THey seem to have fucking lost my email accounts
18:19 < dfused> and on that note, I'd be asking for free month(s)
18:20 <@Dagmar> Man fuck free
18:20 <@Dagmar> Free doesn't do be a bit of good if the shit won't work
18:26 <@Dagmar> Now I see that the original agent was just lying to me about hte new class of service
18:26 <@Dagmar> ...but i"m not even getting the "75Mbps" that the "double play" package is supposed to have
18:27 <@Dagmar> Ah ha.  The "Extreme" double play shows 250Mbps internet
18:27 <@Dagmar> Fuck this.  I'm ust going spend my entire night abusing agents
18:27 < dfused> so ow you have an agent with a cllue ?
18:28 <@Dagmar> No, that doesn't happen when I call
18:28 <@Dagmar> But I'm going to keep calling until someone gets this sorted
18:29 <@Dagmar> I am *not* amused that my "Realname" account hasn't actually migrated to the new account
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18:37 <@Dagmar> Hour's almost up.  TIme to get down to the nitty-gritty of just verbally abusing someone
18:39 < dfused> have a few drinks first ..
18:39 < dfused> that way you can really unload hah
18:57 <@Dagmar> Part of the reason why I say I'm dressed like a "supervillain" and not a "superhero"...
18:57 <@Dagmar> It just occurred to me I could probably go into their office tomorrow, physically *kick* someone off their terminal and fix this before the police could show up
18:58 <@Dagmar> Well... probably.  Thirty minutes is what I'm thinking it would take to figure _out_ their systems and fix it
18:59 < dfused> then you'd need s sidekick.... 1. to help prolong your time 2. to hepl film that shit....cause that would be fucking awesome
19:00 <@Dagmar> Yeah and the supervillain in me thinks this would be a just dandy thing to do
19:00 < dfused> and the superhero should think this is a necessary evil to right a wrong !
19:03 <@Dagmar> OKay so now a "higher fix agency" is going to call me within the next 24 hours.
19:03 <@Dagmar> May god have mercy on their soul because I will not.
19:20 <@Dagmar> ...and I am again leveraging hashtags
19:20 <@Dagmar> Ah yay the customer satisfaction survey callback
19:52 <@Dagmar> https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/12006141_830226110408793_4256108484492925855_n.jpg?oh=6b9cd81167c6e3888d075d29ebc9372a&oe=56FCAC85
19:52 <@Dagmar> Bob is my spirit animal right now
19:56 < dfused> lol
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20:25 <@Evilpig> guess I shoudl go check on my ham
20:25 < dfused> thats a bit personal
20:26 <@Evilpig> it's been in the oven since 5
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23:16 < dfused> awful fucking quiet for a saturday night
23:16 < dfused> well....sun morning.
23:16 <@Dagmar> I'm just rocking back and forth in my chair trying to not call up Comcast to abuse someone
23:16 < dfused> lmao
23:17 < dfused> great visual
23:17 <@Dagmar> I was absolutely _livid_ earlier
23:17 <@Dagmar> I've probably blown four or five hours on the phone with Comcast this month and the shit still doesn't work correctly.
23:18 <@Dagmar> 4pm tomorrow I'm going to call them if they haven't called me
23:18 < dfused> yeah I know the feeling...I had multiple ppl on the line simultaneously yetserday due to some reps fuck up in typing my account number for a loan payment
23:18 <@Dagmar> It's just mind boggling to me that they can fuck this up so badly
23:18 <@Dagmar> I've made 7-8 calls in total and talked to different people.  Only ONE of them wasn't worthless.
23:19 < dfused> everytime I call in, they always ask the sam equestions, what semail, whats number, can they call it. ..... and yet, they mistype my account number and paymenbt doesnt go through....so 6 days later I call in to ask WTF and they say tey sent a paper notice saying it failed.
23:19 < dfused> ...needless to say, I lost it.
23:20 <@Dagmar> I dont' blame ya
23:21 < dfused> yeah, I let them know in no uncertain terms that I will NOT pay a late fee for their fuck ups.... meh.   compnies are just getting worse and worse and worse
23:21 <@Dagmar> I fail to see how Comcast could even continue to be in business if they weren't enjoying a monopoly
23:22 <@Dagmar> Like, I have a deep and long-lasting hatred of AT&T and at this point I'm actually considering switching to U-Verse just because it would be _faster_ for getting things running again
23:22 < dfused> thats where the whole thing really pisses me off for ISPs.....how the fuck, given our nationas history of anti monopoly bullshit, are ISPs allowed to continue to do this crazy shit
23:23 < dfused> I have one choice here in the boonies.... Century Link.  and they offer me a 7m down .5 up. .....for 60/mo
23:23 <@Dagmar> Hell, freakin U-Verse has an acceptable plan for $60
23:23 < dfused> Hargray - less than a mile from my location, cant service me
23:24 < dfused> phrasing. BOOM
23:24 <@Dagmar> 6Mbps is faster than I'm currently reliably getting
23:25 < dfused> if you run this up the political chain... I think we can blame lobbyists for the whole thing
23:26 <@Dagmar> I think I can blame a whole _slew_ of people, mainly middle-managers and executive managers.
23:27 < dfused> yeah....capitalism is great until it runs a muck with profit w/o morals.
23:27 <@Dagmar> amok
23:27 <@Dagmar> I take my forms of mayhem very seriousl.y
23:28 < dfused> lol...dont judge my mildy drunken fingers.
23:28 < dfused> these bastards barely operate a spacebar correcty usually
23:35 < dfused> welp....I gotta get back on a decent damn schedule for next cycle of work...so.... later
23:57 <@Dagmar> I am on the hunt for wherever the hell I put my M4 screws
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