--- Log opened Thu Jan 14 00:00:15 2016
00:19 <@Mirage> RangerZ1: did you notice the liquid cooling system in that prank video?
00:20 <@Mirage> note the copper piping.. https://youtu.be/m4gkhwrp2RE?t=252
00:20 < PigBot> Title: Simple Office Pranks - YouTube (at youtu.be) http://tinyurl.com/hrj2hb8
00:58 <@Mirage> Ahh, good times. https://www.youtube.com/user/sirlumpyesquire/videos?sort=da&view=0&flow=grid
00:58 < PigBot> Title: sirlumpyesquire - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/hsjcnr7
00:59 <@Mirage> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKghH10WTB4
00:59 < PigBot> Title: Strong Bad Email #91 - Caffeine - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/zyfxofs
03:18 < aestetix> sucks to be ted cruz
05:00 < RangerZ1> Mirage: yeah, the "whole room water cooling" system they tried
05:01 < RangerZ1> problem was.... the _copper pipes_ acted as a radiator -inside- the room before the water could make it to the 'radiators'
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05:22 < RangerZ1> so I bought 5 powerball entries just for the hell of it
05:22 < RangerZ1> I didn't get a _single_ number
06:17 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:30  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
07:16 < aestetix> wow german bureaucracy is impressive
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07:26 <@Dolemite> Snape is dead :(
07:28 < aestetix> Severus?
07:29 <@Dolemite> Yes, Alan Rickman died last night
08:01 < dfused> 69 being the magic number it seems
08:18 < Synx_hm> holy fuck im tired
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08:18 < Synx_hm> 3 nights in a row of 1am to 5am work
08:19 < Synx_hm> and get to do it again tonight and the customer wants it friday night too (already told work to fuck off on that one)
08:20 <@Evilpig> Synx_hm: you be a good corporate drone and DO WHAT YOU'RE TOLD!!!
08:20 < Synx_hm> fuck these clowns
08:20 < Synx_hm> i dont get over time
08:20 < Synx_hm> and its not like i dont have a normal life to live where i can sleep all day
08:20 < phy1729> http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=145278077820529&w=2
08:20 < PigBot> Title: 'Important SSH patch coming soon' - MARC (at marc.info) http://tinyurl.com/ho2jl3f
08:20 < Synx_hm> went to bed at 530 fell asleep at 6 work up at 7 to take kid to day care
08:21 < Synx_hm> interesting ill have to read that cve
08:22 < Synx_hm> oh right its not out yet
08:23 < dfused> start taking speed and B12
08:23 < Synx_hm> B12 is the key there depleted recptors blows
08:24 < dfused> yeah I try and take a super b12 hit when I'm bogging
08:26 <@Dagmar> Cell phone manufacturers need to take a page from the ops manuals of microwave oven manufacturers
08:26 < dfused> wrap that shit?
08:26 <@Dagmar> I'm pretty sure 90% of the =<1000W ovens are using the exact same control chips and circuitry
08:26 <@Dagmar> Even their membrane keyboards all say the same things
08:27 <@Dagmar> There'd be way less bullshit if cell phone makers worked this way
08:28 <@Dagmar> I'm looking online at them right now, since during the move I noticed the paint on the roof of mine was compromised
08:28 <@Dagmar> ...like, inside it.
08:28 < dfused> hrm...I thought you were going in the 'it melts my brain' direction
08:29 <@Dagmar> WEll, this is partly related to the revelation that I could more cheaply buy a fucking new Edge S6 and the Gear VR headmount for it than I could buy an actual Occulus
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08:31 < Synx_hm> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Tk-5RVMerfI
08:31 < PigBot> Title: Lozs magnificent 7-tone fart symphony - the #1 video in the world, for one day in May 2015. - YouTube (at m.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/zysc6r9
08:32 < dfused> uh....are you so tired that you're looking for fart videos?
08:33 < Synx_hm> im stumbling around reddit
08:33 < Synx_hm> so basically yes
08:33 < Synx_hm> im in a daze
08:33 <@Dagmar> Yeah that's tewtelly safe
08:33 < Synx_hm> that video is hilarious btw
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08:35 <@Dagmar> I'll take your word for it
08:35 <@Dagmar> I'm kinda in "swaddled on the couch" mode again today
08:35 < Synx_hm> really you must watch it
08:35 < Synx_hm> totally worth it
08:36 <@Dagmar> Not satisfied to merely throb from the knees down, last night I smashed a toe into something so hard I clearly did serious damage from the way it feels today
08:36 < Synx_hm> ugh thats the worst feeling
08:36 <@Dagmar> Am I putting a shoe on before at least noon?  Hell no
08:37 <@Dagmar> I don't need any more of my toes looking like my parents were related to each other
08:38 < dfused> heh
08:38 <@RangerZ> that it took him THIS long for that to happen is actually.... kinda impressive
08:38 <@Dagmar> huh?
08:38 <@RangerZ> because fitting a large 2 bedroom apt into a small 1 bedroom apt
08:39 <@RangerZ> plus... its Dagmar... so _how many_ computers/records were there in that apt?
08:39 <@Dagmar> Oh yeah, I know most of the reason I had that accident last night is that I'm packed into this apartment
08:39 <@RangerZ> I have a 4 post rack, and my bike in the middle of my living room
08:39 <@RangerZ> and I feel like I have more room than you
08:40 <@Dagmar> Well... there's a wall of closets that's full of boxes now
08:40 <@Dagmar> I think I might have to download this one http://www.primewire.ag/watch-2767645-The-Big-Tits-Dragon-online-free
08:40 < PigBot> Title: Watch The Big Tits Dragon (2010) Online Free - PrimeWire | 1Channel (at www.primewire.ag) http://tinyurl.com/zjj337x
08:40 <@Dagmar> ...just because... that name
08:42 <@Dagmar> Irritatingly, the Americanized movie poster says 'Zombie'... http://www.amazon.com/Big-Tits-Dragon-Movie-Poster/dp/B0046OTDHC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1452782472&sr=8-2&keywords=the+big+tits+dragon
08:42 < PigBot> Dagmar: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 20480 bytes.
08:42 <@Dagmar> Do not scroll down within the search results on that one
08:42 <@Dagmar> Straight into futa-land it goes
08:43 <@RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlU-iU-DI3w I'm curious to see how -this- turns out
08:43 < PigBot> Title: AMD and ARM in the Datacenter - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/zy2zzpj
08:47 <@RangerZ> I wonder how it would work for emulating arm mobile devices, b/c that alone would make it worth a purchase for a lot of people
08:49 <@Evilpig> UGH
08:49 <@Evilpig> this "person" put in a ticket for a load balancer request and said she wants port 443 -> 9005 as an ssl tunnel
08:50 <@Dagmar> Yay Tomcat users
08:50 <@Evilpig> okay...  I do it but I tell her 9005 isn't responding to https only http
08:50 <@Evilpig> she doesn't understand that https is a protocol and not just a fuckin' port number 
08:50 <@Dagmar> So you're terminating SSL for them.  That's pretty common.
08:50 <@Dagmar> So long as they gave you a copy of the cert you can do that for them
08:51 <@Evilpig> we have wildcards for that, but the server isn't listening for https
08:51 <@Evilpig> then she tells me she wants an 80 -> 443 redirector set up even though her request specifically said no she didn't want that
08:52 <@Dagmar> You shoudl walk through the interface for putting in those requests.  :)
08:52 <@Dagmar> You're still talking about a ticket I'd have done in a half hour
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08:53 <@Evilpig> I could have done this correctly easily in 15 minutes
08:53 <@Evilpig> but she's telling me it's wrong and needs firewall rules, and shit for a backend server that isn't listening
08:53 <@Dagmar> Hey if the backend server is only listening via HTTP then just terminate the SSL on the F5's and call it "what the user requested"
08:55 <@Dagmar> Dunno where you got the idea the customers were supposed to know what they were doing
08:55 <@Dagmar> Have you talked to my girlie over there lately?
08:56 <@Dagmar> Black hair, glasses, bribes you with cookies...
09:04 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: I haven't seen her lately, but she brought me cookies one of my first few days back
09:14 < _NSAKEY> phy1729: Thanks for that link.
09:30 <@Dagmar> lol I broke that toe
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09:30 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: >
09:30 <@Evilpig> ?
09:31 <@Dagmar> I slammed my foot into something in here last night so hard it made my eyes water
09:31 <@Evilpig> way to go captain klutz
09:32 <@Dagmar> Still very sore this morning, but after taking some ibu/aceto and feeling it out a few minutes ago, apparently I actually broke the bone
09:32 <@Dagmar> Hey there's very little room to move aroud in here and everything is new
09:32 <@Dagmar> Don't expect me to be able to find my way around _that_ easily yet
09:39 <@Dagmar> I'm not saying I want this to happen but it would maybe be nice if the next bone I actually break were one that could be put in a plaster cast
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09:56 < dfused> le sigh... time to go upgrade some servers
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10:08 < aestetix> hmm it turns out there is a masters degree in identity now
10:08 < aestetix> http://msims.ischool.utexas.edu/
10:08 < PigBot> Title: Master of Science in Identity Management and Security (at msims.ischool.utexas.edu) http://tinyurl.com/zxk5x2o
10:08 < aestetix> I should totally apply to be a teacher and cite my phreaknic talks :p
10:10 < _NSAKEY> dfused: Are you referecing the SSH bug?
10:11 < dfused> _NSAKEY: yeah
10:11 < aestetix> of course any school that requires government issued ID to apply to such a program automatically fails
10:11 < dfused> but I was gonna update servers anyways this weekend
10:11 < dfused> figured I might as well do it now and update the config while I'm at it
10:12 < _NSAKEY> Adding "UseRoaming no" to the client config and restarting is supposed to mitigate.
10:12 < dfused> thats what I'm doing
10:12 < _NSAKEY> Curious to see if they leave support for setting that option to "no" for those of us who mitigated before the patch.
10:13 < aestetix> Evilpig: can you teach me how to use splink?
10:13 < aestetix> splunk*
10:16 < Synx_hm> dfused: how did you stumble onto that openssh bug?
10:17 < Synx_hm> im curious if i should be following somebody or some group # what ever on the interwebs or twitter
10:18 < _NSAKEY> Synx_hm: phy1729 linked us to an archived post on a mailing list earlier.
10:18 < Synx_hm> oh oh right
10:18 < _NSAKEY> Specifically, this: https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=145278077820529&w=2
10:18 < PigBot> Title: 'Important SSH patch coming soon' - MARC (at marc.info) http://tinyurl.com/gnbgvu6
10:18 < _NSAKEY> Don't think you were in the channel at the time.
10:18 < Synx_hm> so the question stands by directed at phy1729
10:18 < Synx_hm> i was
10:18 < Synx_hm> ive been half passed out on the couch for an hour so my brain is slow
10:19 < _NSAKEY> Following a random collection of infosec types on Twitter will also push bugs in front of you.
10:19 < Synx_hm> anyways how best do i go about being informed of that type of info quickly
10:19 < _NSAKEY> It's also got two front page posts on news.ycombinator.com.
10:19 < Synx_hm> k what i figured
10:19 < Synx_hm> im just figuring this twitter thing out
10:19 < _NSAKEY> Twitter is like a firehose.
10:19 < Synx_hm> really only use it to follow @nashseverewx (these guys rock)
10:20 < _NSAKEY> You might want to break accounts out into lists by what they do.
10:20 < dfused> _NSAKEY: yeah twitter is actually how I saw it
10:20 < Synx_hm> you can do that?
10:20 < _NSAKEY> Synx_hm: Yeah, there's a lists feature.
10:20 < phy1729> Synx_hm: I'm on openbsd-tech
10:20 < Synx_hm> god i dont need anything else today to obsess about, ive spent the past 2 days learning about saltstack, vagrant, docker, etc
10:21 < phy1729> and when I see shit like that I spam it everywhere
10:21 < _NSAKEY> If you want to make the most of something like lists, you'll probably want something like TweetDeck. Then each list can get its own column, and you don't have to move around as much.
10:21 < Synx_hm> fml more tools to learn about
10:21 < Synx_hm> but thank you though
10:21 < Synx_hm> now back to docker, salt, dashing.io
10:21 < dfused> lol
10:22 < Synx_hm> oh and what is ycombinator and why does it to default to hacker news when i go there
10:22 < Synx_hm> did i setup something previously?
10:22 < _NSAKEY> Synx_hm: It's just another news aggregator.
10:22 < Synx_hm> this web2.0 shit is blowing my mind
10:25 < _NSAKEY> This has some funny updates: http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20160114142733
10:25 < PigBot> Title: OpenSSH: client bug CVE-2016-0777 (at undeadly.org) http://tinyurl.com/h4hvuke
10:25 < _NSAKEY> https://twitter.com/thegrugq/status/687671459951452161
10:25 < PigBot> Title: the grugq on Twitter: "Obviously the OpenSSH bug has to be called: SSHit" (at twitter.com) http://tinyurl.com/h5wgfuz
10:25 < Synx_hm> _NSAKEY: can i add hashtags to lists?
10:26 < _NSAKEY> No, just accounts.
10:26 < _NSAKEY> You can have running searches for hashtags in tweetdeck, and it will barf the results out as they go live.
10:27 < Synx_hm> how am i ever susposed to get off the computer
10:29 < _NSAKEY> If it's a big enough bug, the twitter jokes will rage for days.
10:35 <@Dagmar> heh
10:37 < _NSAKEY> The impact of this one is pretty impressive, if an attacker can weasel their way into a position to get a client to connect to them.
10:39 < _NSAKEY> If the private key gets leaked and saved somewhere, the attacker can then start sshing into boxes.
10:39 < _NSAKEY> For someone that took the time to do two-factor auth on ssh, this bug isn't a world-ender.
10:40 < _NSAKEY> For the rest of us, the UseRoaming no advice still applies.
10:42 < dfused> unless you use putty
11:01 <@RangerZ> no wonder _NSAKEY wanted everyone to connect to his SSH server
11:01 <@RangerZ> it all makes sense now
11:12 < aestetix> https://kvgo.com/ftc/01-14-2016-Privacy-CON-Workshop
11:12 < PigBot> Title: Privacy CON Workshop (at kvgo.com) http://tinyurl.com/hqze3cb
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11:39 < dfused> http://medicalxpress.com/news/2016-01-brain-weak-electrical-field.html
11:39 < PigBot> Title: Brain waves may be spread by weak electrical field (at medicalxpress.com) http://tinyurl.com/hwdt6em
11:46 < Synx_hm> fuck NSA is in my brain
11:47 < dfused> welp.....back to using tinfoil
11:48 < Synx_hm> indeed
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12:04 < dfused> goddammit i hate winter.
12:10 <@CRasH180> Winter in Florida is amazing. I am sure I will hate Summer though
12:17 <@Dagmar> dfused: THat's proof that stupididy might actually be contagious
13:03 <@Mirage> Wow, I didn't realise Alan Rickman was 69..thought he was younger than that
13:03 <@Dagmar> Yeah he didn't show his age at all
13:14 < Synx_hm> FUCK
13:14 < Synx_hm> i just deleted from disk a VM that i spent 6 hours yesterday developing dockerfiles on
13:14 < Synx_hm> god damn it
13:15 <@Dagmar> It's for the best
13:19 < Synx_hm> probably
13:38 <@Dagmar> _NSAKEY: Probably the largest use for keys is generally for passwordless auth
13:38 <@Dagmar> ...at least for applications "where it matters".
13:39 <@Dagmar> THe people who were fucking lazy and didn't bind the use of those keys to specific hosts are now also probably going "Hmm... Looks like I need to generate new keys, too"
13:39 <@Dagmar> Defense in depth, bishes
13:58 <@Evilpig> queue caught up.
14:47 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: When I mentioned a second auth factor, I was thinking along the lines of a yubikey or other auth dongle.
14:47 < _NSAKEY> Not like, a passworded ssh key, which I'm guessing could still get leaked in cleartext in this attack.
15:27 <@Dagmar> If it's passworded people are _probably_ fine, at least over the short term
15:28 <@Dagmar> No wait, I take that back
15:28 <@Dagmar> I've not seen the full-writeup and there's two possibilities
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15:55 < dfused> teehee....dongle
16:01 < dfused> company A asks every single time I call if blah is my email and blah is my phone and if they are authd to call.... then they screw up typing my acct number for a phone auth payment I made with them.... fails later that day, what do they do? ...... no email, no call, they send me a notice in the mail.
16:40 <@Evilpig> dfused: if you had gotten your account number right, then they woul dhave had the right email and phone number to reach you at
16:45 <@Evilpig> fan2:       3417 RPM  (min =  712 RPM)
16:45 <@Evilpig> that's pretty quiet.  I can barely hear it over the power supply and the case is open
16:47 < dfused> nice! about time =)
16:48 < dfused> and no, they told me over the phone that they only send snail mail for payment issues.
16:49 <@Evilpig> get a better company?
16:50 <@Evilpig> doh!
16:50 <@Evilpig> guess I should get these other fans in quickly.
16:50 <@Evilpig> Message from syslogd@plex2 at Jan 13 16:45:41 ... kernel:EDAC MC0: UE row 6, channel-a= 0 channel-b= 1 labels "-": FATAL (Branch=0 DRAM-Bank=4 RD RAS=15489 CAS=916 Err=0x4 (>Tmid Thermal event with intelligent throttling disabled))
16:50 <@Evilpig> eroffMessage from syslogd@plex2 at Jan 13 16:45:41 ... kernel:EDAC MC0: UE row 6, channel-a= 0 channel-b= 1 labels "-": FATAL (Branch=0 DRAM-Bank=4 RD RAS=15489 CAS=916 Err=0x4 (>Tmid Thermal event with intelligent throttling disabled))
16:50 <@Evilpig> eroff
16:51 < dfused> heh
17:02 <@Evilpig> three fans in, lid on
17:09 < dfused> dont worry...it'l all catch fire sooooon
17:10 <@Evilpig> you shut your whore mouth!
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17:45 <@Evilpig> this sound is just a little loud
17:45 <@Evilpig> let's try to play some music and see how easy it is to drown out
17:54 <@Dagmar> Sound of whta?
17:54 <@Dagmar> Oh... probably the server
17:54 <@Evilpig> yeah
17:55 <@Evilpig> it's still not as quiet as I like but it can be drown out fairly well
17:55 <@Dagmar> I wasn't trying to insult you by the way
17:55 <@Dagmar> I thought you were talking about the sound of murder in Fallout or something
17:55 <@Evilpig> my desktop has a horrible memory leak that I need to track down
17:55 <@Evilpig> fucker is using 8GB of ram with nothing running
17:55 <@Dagmar> I just wanted a mental image of whatever it was the neighbors might be getting an unwanted mental image of.  Heh
17:56 <@Dagmar> Now I shall stop being a girl about my appearance and go meet Audra at Bongo Java
17:56 <@Dagmar> er no... Cafe Coco
17:56 <@Evilpig> I haven't been to coco since I got back, I should go
17:56 <@Dagmar> Gimping my way out to the car will be fun
17:59 <@Evilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/1e4fo2iijkaqfxg/2016-01-14-17-59.PNG?dl=0https://www.dropbox.com/s/1e4fo2iijkaqfxg/2016-01-14-17-59.PNG?dl=0https://www.dropbox.com/s/1e4fo2iijkaqfxg/2016-01-14-17-59.PNG?dl=0
17:59 < PigBot> Title: Dropbox - 2016-01-14-17-59.PNG (at www.dropbox.com) http://tinyurl.com/znc6ypg
17:59 <@Evilpig> https://www.dropbox.com/s/hy3xj5dn9izpki4/2016-01-14-17-59-2.PNG?dl=0
17:59 < PigBot> Title: Dropbox - 2016-01-14-17-59-2.PNG (at www.dropbox.com) http://tinyurl.com/jbypjtt
18:00 <@Evilpig> if anyone has any thoughts i'm open to hear them
18:01 <@Dagmar> Hmm... Interesting
18:01 <@Evilpig> it's either a virus that's good at hiding itself, or a memory leak
18:01 <@Evilpig> one hell of a memory leak
18:01 <@Dagmar> ...or maybe disk caching.
18:01 <@Dagmar> No, scratch that
18:02 <@Evilpig> ram full -> disk thrashing with swap
18:02 <@Dagmar> I'm looking at mine saying "9.7 GB" under Cached and still only 3.6Gb "in use"
18:03 <@Evilpig> when I use resource monitor there's just nothing hiding memory
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18:03 <@Dagmar> Only thing I can suggest is to look under the other tabs (like Users) for weird shit that doesn't add up
18:04 <@Evilpig> it takes it about two weeks of uptime to get to this point
18:04 <@Evilpig> which that makes me think memory leak
18:04 <@Dagmar> Yeah something is severely jacked for that much to be leaked tho
18:05 <@Evilpig> if this new server works out, i'll blow this away and bring up a new deskotp
18:05 <@Evilpig> I semi-suspect my nvidia drivers
18:06 <@Evilpig> I'm still running a gtx-280 and this is the type of thing that would make me upgrade
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19:44 < dfused> why dont they put in those heavy popup metal gates for train crossings like they have at mil bases?
19:45 < dfused> I'm all for darwinism in killing any idiot who decides to just go across anyway when the arms are down....but the ppl on the train dont have a choice. =\
20:07 <@oddball> expense
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20:23 < dfused> yeah.... its some formula of deaths / money * ppl give a shit
20:25 <@oddball> And the sad thing that if you automated something like that at train crossings, someone would smash into it and then sure the train company.
20:26 < dfused> heh yeah
20:42 <@oddball> er sue
20:44 < dfused> i new wat u mint
20:44 <@oddball> :)
21:38 <@Dagmar> This is why there should be active turrets defending each train crossing.
21:39 <@Dagmar> Dead people can't sue anyone.
21:47 <@Mirage> I think I need to figure out how to add more sed's and grep's...
21:47 <@Mirage> http://pastebin.com/Huc3cnGd
21:47 < PigBot> Title: [Bash] reencode.sh - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com) http://tinyurl.com/jjhongf
21:50 <@Dagmar> You could always just use perl.
21:51 <@Mirage> what's the fun in that
21:53 <@Dagmar> ...when it comes time to try to read it later.
21:54 <@Mirage> bah, i can read that fine.  been using it for months, though i have to make tweaks every so often when ffmpeg options change or the encoding of the things wilpig puts in that place varies
22:00 < _NSAKEY> Apparently nobody ever told Dagmar that perl is a write-only language.
22:01 < dfused> lol
22:02 < dfused> didnt ffmpeg have some hole come out today
22:02 < _NSAKEY> Yes.
22:02 < dfused> i thought i saw something about it
22:04 <@Mirage> dfused: lol..figures.  i just grabbed newer source and recompiled it last night
22:07 <@Mirage> yeah, i don't have to worry about that.
22:08 < dfused> famous last words =D
22:54 <@Dagmar> _NSAKEY: <Dagmar> ...when it comes time to try to read it later.
22:54 <@Dagmar> ...although it would be flat out simpler to parse what was wanted out of each file with one goddamn if statement
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