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06:49 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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07:52 < aestetix> I am apparently in a massive minority for being unfamiliar with david Bowie
07:52 < aestetix> I mean I know the name, but never seen any movies, etc
07:53 <@Evilpig> http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/acyyirxvl07qixsj7kvh.gif
08:10 <@Mirage> aestetix: especially if you're still in europe
08:11 < aestetix> lol
08:11 <@Mirage> aestetix: watched 'Ziggy Stardust' over the weekend.
08:11 < aestetix> Is that a movie? I know it was a music thing too
08:12 <@Dolemite> I feel like I should watch Labyrinth and The Last Temptation of Christ this week, in that order.
08:12 <@Mirage> it's a Bowie concert from 1973 (i think) that
08:13 <@Mirage> is quite fun to watch.  you'd probably like it, that's from back when he was crossdressing for his stage act
08:13 <@Dolemite> I got to see Bowie live in concert once...  and it was probably the penultimate experience for me as far as concerts go.  He was co-headliners with Nine Inch Nails for their "Outside" tour.
08:13 < aestetix> Dolemite: then what was the ultimate?
08:13 <@Evilpig> I'd like to see NIN, i'm hoping this deal goes through for a ticket to see Tool and Primus
08:14 <@Dolemite> aestetix: The donkey show with your mother.  Hands down.
08:14 < aestetix> Dolemite: you were her inspiration
08:15 <@Mirage> Dolemite: speaking of donkey shows...supposedly Kevin Smith is working on Clerks III and Mallrats 2 (Mallbrats)
08:15 <@Dolemite> werd
08:16 <@Evilpig> Mallrats just wouldn't be the same today.  Kids don't hang out at the mall anymore, do they?
08:16 < aestetix> They do in Europe. But then again, Berlin still has video rental stores.
08:16 <@Mirage> Evilpig: that's pretty much the discussion that I was reading
08:17 < aestetix> Don't american kids mostly stay at home playing xbox now?
08:17 <@Mirage> Video rental being dead was the hot topic for the clerks3 discussion
08:17 <@Evilpig> what would a version of that be today?  bunch of kids sitting at home watching people play games on youtube while chatting on skype?
08:17 <@Dolemite> Especially in states from Virginia and further South most new shopping developments are being built as outdoor walking malls, like The Avenue in Murfreesboro.  There's no place to hang out.
08:17 <@Mirage> no, no...sitting at starbucks in their hipster gear...not at home
08:17 <@Evilpig> because watchign other people play games is superior to playing them yourself...
08:19 <@Evilpig> speaking of.  if you want to see me get pissed off at a game and give up... http://www.twitch.tv/wilpig/v/34761658
08:19 < PigBot> Title: Twitch (at www.twitch.tv) http://tinyurl.com/h6oh53t
08:19 < aestetix> Dolemite: are the malls going to be hangout places?
08:19 < aestetix> But yeah, the US has really destroyed the idea of "hangout" spaces
08:20 < aestetix> Evilpig: who the hell would pay to watch you play videogames?
08:20 <@Evilpig> nobody in their right mind
08:21 <@Evilpig> but if someone would give me money, i'd take it
08:22 <@Mirage> Evilpig: too bad that wasn't really an option back in the Vanilla/BC WoW days.  People might have enjoyed watching you chasing down and ganking alliance
08:23 <@Mirage> Of course on the downside, people would be able to see where you were and hunt you down
08:24 < aestetix> Do kids in nashville hang out any more?
08:30 < aestetix> besides Dolemite in his underwear
08:30 <@Evilpig> Mirage: true on both accounts, but it would have been funny to hear us on vent chasing assholes down
08:30 <@Evilpig> iirc we used to have a few alliance that liked to get on vent and listen to what we were doing
08:30 <@Mirage> 40-man AQ raid night PvP would have been very popular.
08:32 < aestetix> The word "jiggly puff" comes to mind
08:32 <@Mirage> and anything with Jay going off on people
08:32 <@Evilpig> there are some videos of that on youtube someplace
08:32 < aestetix> wibble wobble
08:33 <@Mirage> can't remember the other guy's name that was also quite fun to listen to
08:33 <@Evilpig> this looks bad ass.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RNL62fUdpI
08:33 < PigBot> Title: CES 2016 - Panasonic Transparent Display - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/jvdaw4o
08:35 <@Evilpig> the extra shit like the music playing is dumb but I like the direction they are going with the transparency
08:36 < aestetix> wow that is cool
08:36 < aestetix> it solves the problem of the tv blocking stuff
08:40 <@Mirage> I must have missed where it was anything but translucent at best
08:44 <@Dolemite> Ok, people, learn to read before you hit send.  "Everything you always wanted to know about DOE's Office of STI but were afraid to ask."   STI, in this context, is supposed to mean Scientific and Technical Information.
08:45 <@Mirage> The next video for the Samsung WiFi enabled stove/oven makes be wonder when/if they will stop doing things because they can and start thiking about the fact that there is no valid reason in the normal world to need a wifi enabled stove
08:47 <@Mirage> I'm sure I'm alone on this in here, but they're taking the IoT a bit too far.
08:48 < dfused> nah.... you're not alone
08:48 < dfused> though I'd really rather they worry about the security of it all before opening up pandoras box
08:48 < aestetix> why do you want a wifi enabled stove?
08:48 < aestetix> that makes no sense
08:48 <@Evilpig> Mirage: wifi enabled stove for those times that you want to burn the house down while you're sitting at starbucks
08:49 < dfused> DFUSED'S STOVE: tweet, I'm cooking pot roast.
08:49 < dfused> who gives a shit.
08:50 <@Evilpig> DFUSED'S STOVE: tweet, the pasta is boiling over
08:50 < dfused> yeah, how ever did we survive for hundreds of years without that
08:51 < aestetix> I thought it allowed you to use twitter while cooking
08:52 < aestetix> the transparency thing is cool. the wifi stove is stupid
08:52 < aestetix> also, would the heat from the stove interfere with the electronics?
08:53 < aestetix> we should pool money to send Dagmar to CES
08:53 <@Evilpig> we've solved those problems.  we've had electronic stoves for 20 years now
08:57 <@Mirage> Evilpig, Dolemite: Yesterday one of the cats caught and brought in a live bird.  Kept all the cats entertained for awhile as I tried to figure out how to catch it.   Our living room is a "great room" with a sloping ceiling that goes from ~9' to ~25'.
08:57 <@Evilpig> hahaha, any video of it?
08:58 <@Dolemite> Drone attack
08:58 <@Mirage> no, just a couple pictures of it sitting up in one of the windows.
08:58 <@Mirage> It kept flitting between the catwalk thing that the electrical and A/C runs through and the windows at the top of the stairs.
09:12 < aestetix> huh apparently David Bowie's apartment was two train stops from where I am
09:28 <@CRasH180> wow
09:40 < aestetix> Evilpig: at the next phreaknic, you could do a manscaping auction
09:43 < aestetix> I would pay to wax off a patch of furr on your nipple
10:26 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: https://twitter.com/DPRK_News/status/686552347036745728
10:26 < PigBot> Title: DPRK News Service on Twitter: "Yale university condemned as malodorous hive of corruption and perversion, dominated by fraudulent swinekeepers posing as learned men." (at twitter.com) http://tinyurl.com/hxb3pnm
10:26 < _NSAKEY> Also, expect what you last said to be on a projector at PN20. Just saying...
10:28 < aestetix> hahahaha
10:28 < aestetix> what was last said in irc?
10:29 < _NSAKEY> 16:35:11  < aestetix> Evilpig: at the next phreaknic, you could do a manscaping auction
10:29 < _NSAKEY> 16:38:35  < aestetix> I would pay to wax off a patch of furr on your nipple
10:30 < aestetix> so that would be on the projector?
10:30 < _NSAKEY> I'm thinking about it.
10:30 < aestetix> for the whole channel?
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11:08 <@Dagmar> How about we *don't*
11:08 <@Dagmar> In fact, how about we don't even make any more "suggestions" of things that would disgust 90% of the congoers/.
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11:24 < _NSAKEY> Hahahahaha.
11:25 <@Dagmar> I did say I was going to start bringing the hammer down about this shit.
11:25 <@Dagmar> This isn't fuckin' 4chan.
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12:14 <@Dagmar> I have yet to see 25 up happen
12:15 <@Dagmar> Later this week I'm going to make sure I have everything working correctly, because my few tests so far seem to indicate I'm not seeing anything better than I had before, despite that my entire signal path should be gigabit ethernet now.
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12:19 < aestetix> wow Dagmar that made you mad
12:20 < aestetix> ..... who is the 10%?
12:22 < aestetix> in unrelated news, twitter has informed me that David Bowie died
12:25 < _NSAKEY> Old news.
12:25 < aestetix> No, I mean David Bowie died.
12:25 < _NSAKEY> Old. News.
12:25 < aestetix> I've been getting notifications every minute for the last 10 hours.
12:25 <@Dagmar> Oh I can assure you it wasn't *just* that incident.
12:26 <@Dagmar> So let's not get any ideas that you have now established a baseline for what you can get away with.
12:26 < aestetix> Dagmar: if we raised the money, would you be willing to go to CES?
12:26 <@Dagmar> How expensive is CES and why would I even want to go in the first place?
12:26 < aestetix> I would love to see a video where Dagmar rips the idiot markets to shreds
12:27 < aestetix> "why the fuck would anyone want a wifi enabled oven?!?"
12:27 <@Dagmar> The counter to that argument would involve insulting a lot of people at CES.
12:28 <@Dagmar> Sure, you could _have_ a wifi-enabled oven, but only about 25% of the populace would be smart enough to use it, and only 5% of those people skilled enough in programming to use it
12:29 <@Dagmar> Everyone else would be stuck with whatever walled-garden widget the manufacturer would ship that for whatever reason, allows one to adjust the temperature remotely.
12:32 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: I must be the only one in the world who had never listened to a David Bowie song until today.
12:35 < aestetix> In another interesting discovery, I have learned that you can use big words to express views on twitter, and the SJWs are too stupid to understand them
12:38 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Go watch the Ziggy Stardust concert from the early 70s.
12:39 < _NSAKEY> re: Your SJW comment, maybe DPRK News is on to something... https://twitter.com/DPRK_News/status/686552347036745728
12:39 < PigBot> Title: DPRK News Service on Twitter: "Yale university condemned as malodorous hive of corruption and perversion, dominated by fraudulent swinekeepers posing as learned men." (at twitter.com) http://tinyurl.com/hxb3pnm
12:40 < aestetix> haha
12:50 <@Mirage> oh, shit... aestetix wasn't trolling for a change:  http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/12/arts/music/david-bowie-dies-at-69.html?_r=0
12:50 < PigBot> "Couldn't snarf url: HTTP Error 303: The HTTP server returned a redirect error that would lead to an infinite loop.\nThe last 30x error message was:\nSee Other. http://tinyurl.com/zurd7kz"
12:50 <@Mirage> http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-35278872
12:50 < PigBot> Title: David Bowie dies of cancer aged 69 - BBC News (at www.bbc.com) http://tinyurl.com/hktegfm
12:51 < RangerZ1> Mirage: nope, some old guy named bowie died
12:51 <@Dolemite> Mirage: Are you just now coming out from under a rock today?
12:51 <@Mirage> Dolemite: sorry, i'v been working and not cyber-slacking
12:52 < RangerZ1> not sure who he is other than an actor from Labyrinth
12:53 <@Mirage> RangerZ1: and Sting is just that guy from the 1984 Dune too, right?
12:55 <@Dolemite> RangerZ1: Pontius Pilate in The Last Temptation of Christ
12:59 < aestetix> RangerZ1: old white guy, possibly straight
13:01 <@Dolemite> He played Nikola Tesla in "The Prestige"
13:01 <@Dolemite> There's a geek reference you can relate to
13:06 < _NSAKEY> https://twitter.com/Teridax/status/686448866783186944
13:06 < PigBot> Title: Teridax on Twitter: "tomorrow Vanilla Ice is discovered to have also died at the same time, but his heart had one extra beat to it" (at twitter.com) http://tinyurl.com/z73mebq
13:06 <@Mirage> lol
13:06 < dfused> wow thats bad
13:08 <@Dolemite> rofl
13:08 < aestetix> wait, vanilla ice is still alive?
13:08 <@Dolemite> Ok, seriously?  PC police are now calling out Quentin Tarantino for using the term ghetto in his acceptance speech at the Golden Globes?
13:08 < aestetix> Dolemite: oh man for real?
13:09 < aestetix> Because only black people have ever lived in the ghetto
13:09 < _NSAKEY> Dolemite: What else is he supposed to call it?
13:09 <@Dolemite> Learn to use a dictionary, people.  Ghetto didn't originate as a term for housing of black people.
13:09 < _NSAKEY> What's the socially acceptable word that we'll only be able to use for 20 years before it becomes bad and evil?
13:09 <@Dolemite> Tarantino called Morricone “my favorite composer.” He didn’t mean just movie composers — “that ghetto — but “I’m talking Mozart, I’m talking Beethoven, I’m talking Schubert.”
13:09 <@Dolemite> That's a perfectly legitimate use of the word ghetto.
13:10 <@Dolemite> Not common, but certainly legitimate.
13:10 < aestetix> Dolemite: to be fair, many european ghettos were blown away during WW2
13:11 < RangerZ1> Vanilla Ice actually had a TV show where he flipped houses
13:11 < aestetix> wiat, I don't understand the context for ghetto here
13:11 < RangerZ1> he got into general contracting after his "heavy metal" era or... w/e that was...
13:12 <@Dolemite> He's saying that Morricone being his favorite isn't limited to the ghetto of film composers.  He means it across the entire spectrum of composers.
13:13 < aestetix> Mozart did live in a ghetto though
13:13 < _NSAKEY> It's not a literal ghetto.
13:13 < _NSAKEY> It's figurative.
13:13 < aestetix> Yes I know :p
13:13 < _NSAKEY> The point he's trying to make is that movie composers are generally shit compared to the likes of Mozart.
13:14 < aestetix> So SJWs who slept through the class on metaphor in school are now up in arms?
13:15 <@Dolemite> I don't know that all of those protesting have attended school.
13:15 < _NSAKEY> It goes back to the DPRK News tweet I linked earlier.
13:18 < RangerZ1> you shouldn't take what DPRK media says seriously
13:18 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ1: I know it's a parody account.
13:19 < RangerZ1> they said that Kim Jun Il had an 18 hole game of golf where he hit 21 total strokes
13:19 < RangerZ1> or something BS like that
13:19 < _NSAKEY> ... It's a parody account.
13:19 < _NSAKEY> @popehat runs it, or at least he did.
13:20 < RangerZ1> and?
13:20 < RangerZ1> you expect people to catch 'parody' with only 140 characters?
13:21 < RangerZ1> where in the history of Twitter has that been proven possible... lol
13:21 < RangerZ1> Thank god they are moving to allow 10k word tweets
13:21 < RangerZ1> because THAT is what the world needs :/
13:21 < _NSAKEY> To be fair, that account's tweets are almost indistinguisable from the kind of nonsense that NK puts out on its own.
13:21 < RangerZ1> which is what makes a 'great' parody
13:22 < RangerZ1> Conservatives who watched the colbert report thought that he was -conservative- but only 'going overboard' with it to be funny
13:22 < RangerZ1> they didn't realize he was liberal
13:22 < _NSAKEY> It's just that what it happened to say about the Yale/SJW idiot situation can be readily applied to a bunch of other SJW-initiated situations without much more than some word changes.
13:22 < _NSAKEY> Yeah, that's how he got to speak at the press correspondent's dinner in 2006, where he made fun of Bush.
13:23 < _NSAKEY> He's fallen pretty far since then. I watched his "interview" with Trump. He made fun of the guy the day before and after, but lobbed softballs at him when he had the man on his show.
13:26 < RangerZ1> has to
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13:26 < RangerZ1> otherwise he'll lose his "access"
13:26 < RangerZ1> there is "too many" news outlets
13:27 < RangerZ1> MSNBC is moving back to be a conservative channel, it just doesn't want to give up its evening block (they got rid of everyone slightly left of center from noon til 6
13:28 < RangerZ1> CNN is trying to become fox news
13:28 < RangerZ1> and ...faux news
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13:39 < RangerZ1> and honestly, the idea of having a 'liberal' corporate news outlet owned by _comcast_ of all "people" (if you ask comcast)
13:39 < RangerZ1> is a joke
13:40 < RangerZ1> its socially liberal, but policy wise its pretty conservative too (even the night bloc can't really talk about TPP, etc)
13:43 < aestetix> What are now called liberals are closer to fascists.
13:45 < RangerZ1> I wouldn't go that far, I'd say  that there is no such thing as "liberal corporate media" perhaps
13:48 < RangerZ1> the 1978 decision that "corporations are legally 'people" is a turning point in US/World history
13:49 < RangerZ1> or was it 76... and then 78 was legalizing them making campaign contributions...
13:49 < RangerZ1> either way... those two rulings :/
13:51 < RangerZ1> and its all the fucking baby boomer's fault too
13:51 < RangerZ1> they are the only generation in US history which has not passed an amendment to the Constitution.... though... with how badly they have fucked things up otherwise.... perhaps we should be grateful :/
13:52 <@Catonic> yay
13:56 < aestetix> RangerZ1: don't worry, with the SJW generation I'm sure we'll see some amendments
14:09 <@Catonic> wait... you mean law can suck even worse?
14:09 <@Catonic> I'm about burned out on law to begin with, and I don't have a J.D.
14:09 <@Catonic> It's absolutely stupifying that people will get involved in writing law, let alone deciding law and not have any mental wherewithal regarding logic whatsoever.
14:10 <@Catonic> That's most of my disagreement with Left/Right, not to mention the break between "right are immutable" to Marbury v. Madison government policy.
14:11 <@Catonic> last time I mentioned that someone told me it was a settled case, but I doubt they actually understood the significance ... but then again, that person was "rights have limits".
14:12 <@Catonic> Which I most vociferously reject as no one has a right to be more or less {@race,@gender,@other}
14:13 <@Catonic> aestetix: nilla.
14:41 < RangerZ1> Catonic: I have the right to be whiter than everyone here (Well everyone who has a soul)
14:43 < RangerZ1> don't worry, the SCOTUS is hearing arguments against public unions today
14:43 <@opticron> civil unions?
14:44 <@opticron> or are public unions something else I don't know about
14:44 <@opticron> ah, workers unions
14:45 < RangerZ1> you know.... teachers and other state employees being allowed to not be fired "for no cause", etc
14:46 < RangerZ1> if they rule against agency fees, then they will gut unions nationwide
14:48 < RangerZ1> because _despite_ you being party to the benefits of having a union in your workplace, (under the same legal protections) and NOT paying dues 'you' won't have to pay for the once a year/3 year/etc legal fees to help pay for the lawyer who negotiates the actual contract (that you 'are' subject to, despite not being 'part' of the union)
14:49 < RangerZ1> basically it will defund public sector unions ability to afford lawyers
14:49 <@sasquatc3> uggh, great, pcgamer posted an article on idlemaster, now the flood of noobs with cards begins and drives down prices even more
14:49 <@sasquatc3> sumnabitch
14:51 < RangerZ1> ahh
15:06 < RangerZ1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnw1Tsm0S0w
15:06 < PigBot> Title: The Majority Report - Chris Savage: The Flint Water Crisis - 1/11/16 - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/gl23poa
15:06 < RangerZ1> oddball: hope your family isn't in flint
15:07 < RangerZ1> b/c lead poisoning an entire generation of kids...  b/c the Governor's self-appointed people decided to "save money"
15:13  * dasunt loves Google's "nah, you really didn't want to search for all the terms" when it comes to looking for specific parts.
15:14 <@Mirage> and quotes don't mean shit
15:15 <@dasunt> Neither does "+".
15:15 < dfused> I know right? ... If i didn twant the word includedin the search, I wouldnt have fucking typed it
15:16 <@dasunt> It's really fucking annoying when your searching for an uncommon size of component where the common size will overwhelm the search results.
15:18 <@dasunt> Ha, now I'm searching for brand + model number + type of part, and it's dropping the model number from search results.  Thanks Google.
15:25 < RangerZ1> dasunt: obviously you need to use google's new search engine
15:25 < RangerZ1> or should I say 'alphabet' since google sold itself to that
15:26 < RangerZ1> I think its "dogpile.com" or something like that, I'm sure you can google it ;)
15:30 <@dasunt> Oh gawd.  :(
15:32 <@dasunt> Okay, I'll stop bitching soon, but explain this - I search for this one thing on "Shopping", and google drops words that are rather important.  I go back to the main search, and google suggests shopping results that match what I want.
15:33 < RangerZ1> obviously you fucked personally with someone at google
15:34 < RangerZ1> b/c WE all know .... we'd do that if we worked at google... just put "person X into bin Y" and see what the auto-matic-fuc-kwith-them-o-tron decides to do"
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17:41 < RangerZ1> http://kotaku.com/video-game-erroneously-blocked-player-named-muhammad-kh-1752350370
17:41 < PigBot> RangerZ1: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 20480 bytes.
17:41 < RangerZ1> umm... how is it 'dehumanizing' to block someone on a terrorist list from signing up for a game....
17:42 < RangerZ1> I can't tell you how dehumanizing it is that there are 2 professional photographers and a news anchor with my name
17:42 < RangerZ1> .... :/
17:43 < RangerZ1> like it _sucks_ but its not like someone flew a drone to your house
17:44 < RangerZ1> well 5,000ft _above_ your house.... but still...
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18:33 < _NSAKEY> At least he didn't have to attempt to board a plan to figure out that his name is on a watchlist.
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22:23 < RangerZ1> http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-12/putin-says-sheltering-assad-would-be-easier-than-snowden-asylum
22:23 < PigBot> Title: Putin Says Sheltering Assad Would Be Easier Than Snowden Asylum - Bloomberg Business (at www.bloomberg.com) http://tinyurl.com/h8qx7wb
22:24 < RangerZ1> thats the first sign of peace _eventually_ possibly coming to syria (well.... whats left of it....)
22:28 < aestetix> wow
22:29 < aestetix> so
22:29 < aestetix> http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/president/
22:29 < PigBot> Title: RealClearPolitics - 2016 Election 2016 Presidential Polls (at www.realclearpolitics.com) http://tinyurl.com/c9hwnxc
22:29 < RangerZ1> that bernie is actually showing up clinton?
22:29 < aestetix> Trump's strategy seems to be... when everyone starts to forget about him, he says something to really piss off all the liberals
22:29 < RangerZ1> aestetix: he's a comic, making his rounds in the room
22:31 < RangerZ1> [using bare hands and a Wildcat excavator stolen from the United States Fish and Wildlife Service to rip apart a barbed-wire fence. ... The fence, the protesters said, had kept a rancher from grazing cattle on publicly owned land.] http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/12/us/protesters-rip-out-fence-at-refuge-in-oregon.html
22:31 < PigBot> "Couldn't snarf url: HTTP Error 302: The HTTP server returned a redirect error that would lead to an infinite loop.\nThe last 30x error message was:\nFound. http://tinyurl.com/zpsvxdz"
22:31 < RangerZ1> from grazing on  _publicly owned_ land....
22:32 < RangerZ1> How dare they not let that rancher(who who got it from the people who were) who was PAID to take that land back during the oregon trail days use public lands to generate private profits .....
22:33 < RangerZ1> I swear to god...  These knuckleheads out in Oregon are actually providing a public service... by showing how fucking stupid some(a lot) of people are....
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22:34 < RangerZ1> These are the people who support trump, the current republican party
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