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00:00 < RangerZ1> "starting" (in force) b/c they have been going for ~1yr already
00:00 < RangerZ1> they are saying he's who to call when you need to read a bedtime story
00:00 < RangerZ1> LOL
00:00 <@Dagmar> We should perhaps consider putting together a "Dear GOP, please fuck right off." ad to put up on YouTube
00:00 < RangerZ1> (b/c of him reading green eggs and ham in his "not really a filibuster"
00:07 < RangerZ1> Alright, getting off here to stop distracting myself from work, lol, later
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04:44 <@Dagmar> Anything that speaks MTP will be able to do it, but nothing will be able to touch the store-protected media
04:44 <@Dagmar> @#$@#
06:20 < aestetix> penis
06:37 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:37 <@Dolemite> And penis peddlers
06:53  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
06:53 < aestetix> Dolemite: will you be at PN20?
06:53 < aestetix> If I go and see you there, I can teach you how to goose-step
06:54 < aestetix> It's sort of like break-dancing so you'll pick it up fast
06:56 <@Dolemite> I don't know if I'll be there or not.  Will have to see my schedule closer to the date.
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08:12 < Neoteric> biotches ?
08:13 < Neoteric> any of you fuckers wanna move to NYC ? bklyn to be exact ?
08:13 < Neoteric> i need nerds
08:13 <@Evilpig> I just left there
08:13 < Neoteric> ideally backend nerds
08:13 <@Evilpig> well... jersey, but close enough
08:13 < aestetix> Neoteric: I'm happy to help remotely
08:13 < aestetix> Neoteric: also, any luck with kd?
08:13 < Neoteric> HP vertica nerds in very specific (but that's a pipe dream)
08:13 < Neoteric> aestetix: never got together
08:13 < Neoteric> bc i suck and living here is rough
08:13 < aestetix> where do you live
08:14 < Neoteric> aestetix: if you've renounced your citizenship i don't know if i can even let you volunteer time
08:14 < aestetix> I have not renounced anything
08:14 < Neoteric> like "using" travis-ci was a fight bc it's .de
08:14 < aestetix> 1. it's expensive 2. I would not be able to come back
08:16 < aestetix> Neoteric: is logging into a system from .de a problem?
08:17 < Neoteric> "foreign"
08:17 < aestetix> I'm not foreign
08:17 < aestetix> I just happen to live in another country
08:17 < Neoteric> sounds suspicious to me
08:17 < aestetix> that's because you're a bigot
08:17 < aestetix> but if you don't want help so be it :p
08:20 < Neoteric> i need help
08:21 < Neoteric> but domain specific help is HP vertica or any column based datastore
08:21 < Neoteric> AND or ninja
08:22 < aestetix> hmm
08:24 < aestetix> Neoteric: is mysql "column based"
08:24 < aestetix> I'm unsure what you mean by column based
08:25 < aestetix> ok no it is not
08:45 < Synx|hm> ok gents im going to make myself look quite stupid here
08:45 < aestetix> Synx|hm: to match your wits?
08:45 < Synx|hm> i was punching down some new cat6 on my patch panel yesterday and noticed something odd
08:46 < Synx|hm> i think on 4 of my drops ive crossed the color/white with the solid color
08:46 < Synx|hm> however all the keystones in the walls are good
08:46 < Synx|hm> how the fuck on these links working, i fixed one yesterday and nothing changed
08:47 < Synx|hm> is auto negotiate able to completely resolve wiring mistakes?
08:47 < Synx|hm> i checked all my switch port logs and nothing is logged
08:56 <@Mirage> Synx|hm: are you runnin 100Mb or running Gig?
08:56 < Synx|hm> gig
08:57 <@Mirage> Most gig cards are supposed to be able to remap the wires (intended for auto x-over)
08:58 < Synx|hm> ya i read about x-over but didn't think that would apply to a completely fucked up wiring job haha
08:58 <@Mirage> Have you verified that the cards are actually communicating at gig?
08:58 < Synx|hm> perhaps its was designed for x-over but it can actually handle most anything
08:58 < Synx|hm> Mirage: yup
08:59 <@Mirage> Have you ever looked at the pinout/ordering for a gigabit xover cable?
08:59 < Synx|hm> oh no i guess, figured it was same as 10/100
09:00 <@Mirage> yeah...no
09:00 <@Mirage> because gig uses all wires, all of them get flipped around insteadof just half of them
09:00 < Synx|hm> makes sense
09:01 <@Mirage> but if you just use a normal xover, gig cards are supposed to be able to handle it.
09:01 < Synx|hm> ya
09:01 < Synx|hm> ok well im going to repunch all of it anyways see what happens lol
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09:20 < dfused> ah shit.
09:23 <@RangerZ> dfused: I told you to stop touching it so much, you'll go blind soon
09:23 < dfused> I've given up shaving the palms what with the cold weather and all
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09:37 < aestetix> hell yes
09:37 <@RangerZ> dfused: https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080327113818AAVVqmT
09:37 < PigBot> Title: Shaving your Hands? | Yahoo Answers (at answers.yahoo.com) http://tinyurl.com/z7xp7ok
09:37 < aestetix> I finally got to 4096
09:37 < aestetix> in the game 2048
09:38 <@RangerZ> I remember stumbling across that before, and found it amusing
09:41 <@RangerZ> aestetix: glad it only took you .... years....
09:41 <@RangerZ> lol
09:48 < aestetix> it is snowing in berlin
09:48 < aestetix> this is so great
09:50 < aestetix> do girls usually have ass-hair?
09:50 < dfused> RangerZ:  I dont recall being that stupid in high school
09:51 <@Evilpig> dfused: answers.yahoo.com is used for some really stupid shit.  they can't be real
09:52 < Synx|hm> who ever wired the tele in this house there is so much tension on all the wiring i can play it like a guitar
09:52 < aestetix> maybe klixa can answer
09:52 < Synx|hm> and most of it has been cut and taped back together at points
09:53 < Synx|hm> cable relief ever heard of it fucker
09:54 <@CRasH180> time to rip and replace
09:54 < dfused> Evilpig:  hey, what was that link for your server
09:54 < Synx|hm> yup thats next after i fix my stupid punchdown mistake on all my cat6 runs ;)
09:54 <@Evilpig> Synx|hm: I did it, and I used sharp metal staples to secure it 
09:54 < Synx|hm> that and after i figure out how to get a conduit up to the attic
09:54 <@Evilpig> dfused: which service?
09:54 < Synx|hm> Evilpig: fucker
09:54 < dfused> Evilpig:  that supermicro server
09:54 <@Evilpig> the ebay link?
09:54 <@Evilpig> sec
09:54 < dfused> that super quiet one =P
09:55 < dfused> k
09:55 <@Evilpig> http://www.ebay.com/itm/291640316847
09:55 < PigBot> Title: Supermicro 2U Server X7QCE 4X Xeon X7460 2 66GHz 24 Cores 48GB 2X 1TB Dell R900 | eBay (at www.ebay.com) http://tinyurl.com/gtghs3o
09:55 <@Evilpig> Iemailed supermicro support last night to see if they can make it quiet
09:55 < dfused> thanks
09:56 <@Evilpig> http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon7000/7300/X7QCE.cfm
09:56 < PigBot> Title: Super Micro Computer, Inc. - Products | Motherboards | Xeon Boards | X7QCE (at www.supermicro.com) http://tinyurl.com/2lnmnz
09:56 <@Evilpig> from their specs there it has this under fan:
09:56 <@Evilpig> Support for 3-pins (w/ speed control)
09:56 <@Evilpig> Low noise fan speed control
09:57 <@Evilpig> they're four pin connectors but using three pin fans, nothing unusual there though
09:57 < dfused> I have a spare bedroom that is my "server closet"
09:57 <@Evilpig> if these would get down to the 1200rpm level i'd be happy
09:57 <@Evilpig> but they're sticking pretty constant between 5 - 6k
09:58 < dfused> heh
09:58 < Synx|hm> Evilpig: my supermicro refused to correctly control my PWM case fans (delta server pulls, think it might actuall move the rack across the room its so loud from airflow), nor could i find a way to pass PWM control to a VM so i used an arduino to to PWM on them
09:58 < aestetix> none of you in here would know anything about a woman's butt
09:58 <@Evilpig> aestetix: you put your weed in there
09:58 <@Evilpig> maaaaaaaaan
09:58 < Synx|hm> happly married, i haven't seen ass in years
09:58 <@Evilpig> Synx|hm: lm_sensors is just not happy with it for sure
09:59 <@Evilpig> bbiab, meeting time... again
10:00 < aestetix> Synx|hm: to a woman?
10:00 < Synx|hm> Evilpig: well yes ESX lm_sensors driver was unhappy, but i was able to actually get down to the bios level through ipmi bios and other tools and those also would not correctly set speed, supermicro refused to own up to a bios issue
10:00 < Synx|hm> aestetix: yes
10:00 < aestetix> Why is it that marriage is like a chastity belt
10:01 < Synx|hm> kids take away all the focus
10:01 < aestetix> send them off to the glue factory
10:01 < Synx|hm> at 8pm (9 if we are lucky) we are both dead tired and just want to attempt to get a few hours of sleep
10:02 < aestetix> tired because of kids?
10:03 < Synx|hm> kids, work, home ownership, and quarterlife (30s) lack of focus
10:03 < Synx|hm> but yes at least with just one kid i find we focus alot more on him when we are home together
10:03 < Synx|hm> perhaps with two we would let them play together on their own more
10:04 < aestetix> from what I hear having kids when you are a teenager is better because you have more energy
10:04 < aestetix> but then you have kids as a teenager
10:04 < Synx|hm> hah
10:04 < Synx|hm> dont get me wrong its awesome i love it, but im not sure there is ever a good time to have children in todays society
10:04 < aestetix> today's society in the US is fucking broken
10:05 < Synx|hm> my parents had me when they were 21 and it was great growing up with youthful parents, but i sure as fuck could not have done that, nor was i mentally ready at that age
10:05 < Synx|hm> aestetix: ya, how much time we devote to working for the man really drags me down
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10:18 < Synx|hm> why are ubiquiti's product offerings so hard to follow, they all seem to do damn near the same thing
10:19 < Synx|hm> edgerouter-x, edgerouter-lite... wtf the lite is more powerful? huh, powerbeam, powerbridge whats the diff, and then nanobeam wtf
10:19 < Synx|hm> they really need to cat their solutions into usecase on their site not just lump all products of the same type into a pile for the customer to sort out
10:20 < trickshotjohnny> they're typically sized based on bandwidth throughput
10:21 < trickshotjohnny> you can probably talk to a sales rep for details
10:22 < Synx|hm> ya, i dont think edgerouter-x even lits PPS though the rest do
10:22 <@Mirage> which is likely the end goal of the site anyway
10:22 < Synx|hm> ya
10:22 < Synx|hm> are they really enterprise grade though?
10:22 < Synx|hm> i know they want to be
10:22 < Synx|hm> and i love their unifi line, but is anybody actually running edgerouter/edgeswitch in a enterprise, maybe soho
10:23 < Synx|hm> so they might want to offer a bit more insite for their homelab users ;) i dont care to deal with sales folks for my homelab
10:23 < Synx|hm> insight
10:23 <@Dolemite> They don't care about homelab users
10:24 <@Dolemite> I mean they do - in that they like your business; but they don't, in that it doesn't pay to cater to them
10:24 < Synx|hm> clearly, but do they really have a legit enterprise market?
10:24 <@Dolemite> Apparently enough to keep in business
10:27 < Synx|hm> shrug
10:27 < Synx|hm> i do really want to play with their airfiber line
10:28 <@Dolemite> WTF?  Microsoft looking to put Office 365 in cars?
10:28 < Synx|hm> but ive decided on nanobeam for a 7km point to point link
10:31 < Synx|hm> anybody want to start a WISP in town
10:32 <@oddball> Wow... apparently Google+ thinks that an old guy shooting guns at targets in the hills of TN and rambling about the guns he's shooting is evil.
10:32 <@oddball> So... about that trying to use Google+ more... fuck that.
10:34 <@Dolemite> oddball: Was the gun black?
10:34 <@oddball> Many of the guns were black, yes.
10:34 <@Dolemite> There you go
10:35 <@Mirage> hrm.  Apparently VCE is now "EMC Converged Platforms Division", though "the VCE branding will remain"
10:35 <@oddball> Racist fucks
10:35 <@Dolemite> Black Guns == Evil Assault Rifle
10:35 <@Mirage> Not that it matters to me, as of Jan 1 my group officially became part of Virtustream
10:36 < aestetix> Synx|hm: actually from what I remember of the bay area, everyone was exhausted all the time
10:36 <@oddball> Dolemite: http://tinyurl.com/hwenocb
10:36 < PigBot> oddball: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 20480 bytes.
10:37 <@Dolemite> oddball: Prezactly
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10:56 < aestetix> more reports about apple dropping the 3.5inch port from the iphone
11:14 <@oddball> 3.5" port?
11:15 < dfused> headphone port
11:15 < Synx|hm> why are wood stove inserts so fucking expensive
11:15 <@oddball> ah, 1/4"
11:25 <@Evilpig> Synx|hm: because ... fire.
11:25 < Synx|hm> oh reminds me i should probably ask my ins what happens to my rate if i do install one
11:25 < Synx|hm> shit
11:25 <@Evilpig> I installed gas logs and my insurance didn't care.
11:32 < Synx|hm> oh lovely they didn't enen know i had a fireplace
11:34 < dfused> sad trombone.
11:41 < Synx|hm> i think my heatpump has been running nonstop all night
11:41 < Synx|hm> not looking forward to this months elec bill
11:44 < dfused> yeah my heater was running all night... just shut off about 2 hours ago =(
11:44 < dfused> and Ive got it set on 68.
11:44 < _NSAKEY> Synx|hm: Your problem is using Delta fans. Those things are serious business.
11:47 < _NSAKEY> You might want to downgrade to a fan that doesn't sound like a turbine.
11:56 < Synx|hm> _NSAKEY: had to move to those as the 7200rpm drives in my zfs pool were generating some serious heat the "quiet" noctura (basically moving no air) were doing nothing to stop the drives from over heating
11:56 < Synx|hm> at 50% duty cycle and the server below the stairs in the basement i cant hear it except when im down there ;)
11:56 < Synx|hm> but at 100% holy shit i can hear it in the entire house
12:44 <@Evilpig> got my answer from supermicro
12:44 <@Evilpig> "Dear Wilbur, 
12:44 <@Evilpig> Only 4 PINs FAN support PWM. On the old product, the FANs control is on BIOS, not on IPMI(X9, X10 FANs control are on IPMI WEBGUI). Thanks a lot."
12:45 <@Evilpig> tonight i'll try to reflash the bios and fiddle with those settings a bit more.  then maybe strip out a few fans
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12:50 <@RangerZ> cause I needed MORE fucking reason to hate comcast....
12:50 <@RangerZ> over 28 people in line when I left
12:51 < _NSAKEY> Did you give up?
12:51 <@RangerZ> I was "lucky" that I queued up at 20, went and got lunch and was 5 when I came back...
12:51 < Synx|hm> Evilpig: ya they were near useless in my emailings, i found a specific document ref'ign some capability of the hardware and somebody successfully getting a customer bios from them, but they hardly spoke english and never answerd my questions so i gave up
12:51 < _NSAKEY> https://twitter.com/DPRK_News/status/684803152286199809
12:51 < PigBot> Title: DPRK News Service on Twitter: "U.S. college students stage nationwide protests over "authenticity of ethnic food." DPRK youth study higher mathematics and military theory." (at twitter.com) http://tinyurl.com/jamj8qt
12:52 < Synx|hm> Evilpig: X9-SCMiiF is the board i was asking about
12:54 < Synx|hm> also the f'ing manual and even supports emails note a menu that 100% does not exist in the BIOS haha
12:54 <@Evilpig> Synx|hm: they used to be based in cali.  I've always had pretty good luck with them
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13:02 <@Mirage> Evilpig: watch Shannara Chronicles last night?
13:02 <@Evilpig> not yet
13:02 <@Evilpig> I went to bed
13:02 <@Dolemite> Same here
13:02 <@Evilpig> I have the first three episodes though
13:02 <@Dolemite> I've got it queued up to watch tonight
13:03 <@Mirage> I thought they did a pretty decent job of it personally.
13:04 <@Mirage> They had to do back story, setup, character introductions, etc..so of course it was a little on the slow side.
13:05 <@Evilpig> I plan to check it out tonight after I get home.  I need to run by pullapart and then home 
13:11 <@Dolemite> Pull A Part?  What are you needing now?
13:11 <@Dolemite> Didn't the movers already turn your apartment into a junkyard?
13:13 <@Evilpig> hood latch
13:14 <@Evilpig> NotLarry came by yesterday and we pulled it off and it looks like a spring has come off, and it's just two screws so i'm stopping by to grab one
13:15 <@Evilpig> they have four that are possible, one came in two days ago. so odds are good it's got what I need and for $8 you can't beat it
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13:20 <@Dolemite> So speaking of the movers, did they ever settle your claim?
13:20 <@Evilpig> I need to file it
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13:21 <@Evilpig> they finally gave me the insurance company to make the claim to
13:21 <@Dolemite> Oh, so now a whole new round of circle jerking
13:26 <@Evilpig> yup
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14:24 <@Evilpig> ROFL  https://www.change.org/p/support-lemmy-tribute-name-newly-discovered-heavy-metal-lemmium
14:35 <@RangerZ> got one better
14:35 <@RangerZ> https://www.oculus.com/en-us/blog/oculus-rift-pre-orders-now-open-first-shipments-march-28/
14:35 < PigBot> Title: Blog — Oculus Rift Pre-Orders Now Open, First Shipments March 28 (at www.oculus.com) http://tinyurl.com/jmw8v9c
14:35 <@RangerZ> 600$ now
14:36 <@RangerZ> a fucking PS4 is 350$, and I bet you the PS VR is going to be 300~350$ (and has a higher quality screen than the Rift....)
14:36 <@CRasH180> Hype
14:36 <@RangerZ> so for 50~100$ more you'll get... you know... an entire fucking system
14:36 <@CRasH180> It is all about the hype
14:37 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: That's the early adopter R&D tax coming into play.
14:37 <@RangerZ> its fucking FACEBOOK
14:38 <@RangerZ> I dunno... I think they are being stupid about this, its going to have a hard time being adopted
14:38 <@RangerZ> HAHAHA http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/05/politics/donald-trump-uk-ban-debate/
14:38 < PigBot> Title: UK Parliament to debate banning Donald Trump - CNNPolitics.com (at www.cnn.com) http://tinyurl.com/zmu8tqw
14:38 < _NSAKEY> https://gamesdonequick.com/
14:38 < PigBot> Title: Games Done Quick (at gamesdonequick.com) http://tinyurl.com/nqnd2sf
14:38 <@CRasH180> LOL
14:39 < _NSAKEY> This guy is playing Battletoads blindfolded right now.
14:39 < _NSAKEY> Blindfolded, and facing away.
14:39 < _NSAKEY> He's not doing so well now, but he went like 2 minutes that way without dying.
14:43 <@RangerZ> PROTIP: recording videos in a room that is 80+ degrees ... not ideal for 'good' video production
14:44 <@RangerZ> so many fucking lights in the room :/
14:51 <@Evilpig> that sounds like SOP
14:51 <@Evilpig> lights = good recording conditions = more heat
14:53 <@RangerZ> yeah, just a pain in the ass
14:54 <@RangerZ> someone try out html5.speedtest.com
14:54 <@Evilpig> why'd you want me to look at some ad?
14:54 <@Evilpig> adblock got it, just I know what it wanted to put there
14:56 <@RangerZ> was just kinda shocked to see that from their site like that
14:57 <@Evilpig> did you maybe mean speedtest.net?  instead of .com?
14:59 <@Dolemite> Ha!  Apparently the other supercomputing National Laboratories didn't read the instructions on the latest DOE data call where it stated that we had to report our facility inventory.  I'm the only one that met the deadline.
15:00 <@Dolemite> They're now scrambling to put their numbers together.
15:05 < dfused> shame you can tget a raise for being the one person who could read
15:06 < dfused> or at least a bonus
15:09 <@Evilpig> dfused: he gets paid with out taxes.  are you advocating we pay him more? asshole...
15:10 <@Evilpig> s/out/our/
15:10 < dfused> lol
15:11 < dfused> he's been a good boy. he deserves a reward.
15:11 <@Evilpig> then I vote they take the extra taxes from you
15:11 <@Evilpig> but not me
15:12 <@RangerZ> https://i.imgur.com/CG7lIPd.jpg
15:12 < dfused> better yet, they penalize the others....and those proceeds go to Dolemite
15:14 <@Evilpig> dfused: that's not how gubment works.  the less efficient you are, the more you get.  that's how we get things like $1000 hammers
15:14 < dfused> yeah i know
15:15 < dfused> the real idiots get promoted ....mostly so the others dont have to deal with them.
15:15 <@Evilpig> with all that time he has on his hands he can play with the secret weather control device more
15:15 < _NSAKEY> Evilpig: Or tweak the water:fluoride ratio.
15:15 <@Evilpig> easy way to beat that system.  don't drink water
15:15 < dfused> ugh
15:15 <@Evilpig> well.. plain water
15:16 <@Evilpig> I prefer mine carbonated with lots of sugar and some chemicals for taste
15:16 <@Evilpig> Dolemite prefers his with hops
15:21 <@dasunt> Hops is good.
15:26 < dfused> rum is better
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15:29 <@dasunt> Does around 90+% of the "Maker" community seem rather lame to anyone else?
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15:38 < dfused> welp....time for an evening of Broadchurch season 2
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16:45 <@dasunt> Eeek, I'll be paying a little over $2k to a dentist this year.
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21:59 < RangerZ1> Dagmar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXTy-jXQmzg
21:59 < PigBot> Title: Oculus Rift Price Revealed & ReCore Delayed - GS Daily News - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/zzvptnl
21:59 < RangerZ1> its pretty obvious what they think about the price
21:59 < RangerZ1> (keep watching the entire video, lol)
21:59 < RangerZ1> only 3 min long
23:44 < RangerZ1> http://www.pcworld.com/article/3019993/ces/meet-wraith-amds-whisper-quiet-new-stock-cpu-cooler.html
23:44 < PigBot> Title: Meet Wraith, AMD's whisper-quiet new stock CPU cooler | PCWorld (at www.pcworld.com) http://tinyurl.com/gsztzg8
23:44 < RangerZ1> alright, gotta admit... thats pretty impressive gain
23:46 < RangerZ1> Evilpig: I imagine your server sounds like it has 6 of the stock coolers' sound, lol
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