--- Log opened Mon Jan 04 00:00:42 2016
00:30 < aestetix> jesus
00:30 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVv3XzSe5Ks
00:30 < PigBot> Title: Beating Armageddan by Dan Ryckert(of Giant Bomb) Legit, no Cheese in Super Mario Maker - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/zdl4eyu
00:54 < RangerZ1> aestetix: question for you
00:54 < RangerZ1> since you lived in oakland
00:55 < RangerZ1> would you have paid 2,540$/mo for 355 sq.ft. micro apartment in downtown (or wherever) San Fran?
00:56 < RangerZ1> so 30k/yr
00:58 < RangerZ1> http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/22/realestate/leasing-begins-for-new-yorks-first-micro-apartments.html?_r=0
00:58 < PigBot> "Couldn't snarf url: HTTP Error 302: The HTTP server returned a redirect error that would lead to an infinite loop.\nThe last 30x error message was:\nFound. http://tinyurl.com/ntdjvt9"
00:59 < RangerZ1> other than the mini-fridge(and no oven/washer/dryer)  I don't think it would be a 'terrible' place to live
00:59 < RangerZ1> not ideal for visiting family/family holidays, etc.
00:59 < RangerZ1> but 'place for bed' and 'keep stuff'
01:00 < aestetix> RangerZ1: no
01:01 < RangerZ1> "why"
01:01 < aestetix> RangerZ1: however, I could totally see someone else doing it
01:01 < RangerZ1> too small for you?
01:01 < RangerZ1> or too much per Sq.Ft. ?
01:01 < aestetix> dude that couldn't fit my book collection
01:01 < RangerZ1> too much total?
01:01 < aestetix> let alone anything else
01:01 < RangerZ1> Ohh, I have the same setup here
01:01 < aestetix> in berlin I have 120 square meters
01:01 < RangerZ1> I was just curious about 'your' personal opinions, etc
01:02 < aestetix> which is 1300 sq ft
01:02 < RangerZ1> yeah, I had to google it, hehe
01:02 < aestetix> RangerZ1: it is definitely appealing to anyone who is a 20something who uses "home" for a bed, shower, and bringing girls home
01:03 < aestetix> and works at google
01:03 < RangerZ1> I have 1000 sq.ft. myself, and its 'enough' easily, but hard to do what _I_ would like to do (such as woodworking, etc)
01:03 < aestetix> which I guess cancels out the girls part
01:03 < aestetix> lol so I have more space than you
01:04 < RangerZ1> yeah, but I'm fine with that... I could easily have that much... but I'm not paying 2x my rent, hehe
01:04 < RangerZ1> nor (could I)
01:04 < aestetix> but uh
01:04 < aestetix> that is the difference between having a place to live and a home
01:04 < aestetix> I much prefer a home
01:05 < RangerZ1> Ohh I agree
01:05 < RangerZ1> just stating my personal 'issues' with my living conditions, 1k sq.ft. is more than enough for me
01:05 < RangerZ1> but the 'form' of that space isn't how I'd like it
01:06 < RangerZ1> heck the family home only had 1600 sq.ft. (ranch) (that didn't count the basement)
01:08 < aestetix> what is 355 sqrtft
01:08 < aestetix> like 10*30 or something?
01:09 < RangerZ1> 12~13ft wide by 2X feet, is my guess
01:09 < RangerZ1> the article has pics
01:09 < RangerZ1> they 'look' nice
01:10 < RangerZ1> basically small lofts
01:10 < RangerZ1> s/lots/efficiencies
01:10 < RangerZ1> My friend had a 450 sq.ft. one before , and it fit like 8 of us visiting
01:11 < RangerZ1> just open floorplan design, single room with small separate bathroom (no tub, just shower)
01:11 <@klixa> i havent lived in anything bigger than 400 sqaure feet in years... damily of 4
01:11 <@klixa> family*
01:32 < RangerZ1> that'll go well once your kids are older... yeah... sure... lol
01:36 <@klixa> well, hopefully we will have more space in the near future
01:36 <@klixa> our credit sucks tho
01:36 <@klixa> and income is unstable...it altenrates between a lot and barely making ends meet
01:37 < RangerZ1> welcome to america :/
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02:54 < RangerZ1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSrnXgAmK8k
02:54 < PigBot> Title: All of our data is GONE! - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/olr3jlz
02:54 < RangerZ1> if you all want nightmares
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06:10 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
06:10  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
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06:11 < aestetix> wow that pizza made me gassy
06:12 < aestetix> and it's super cold today, so we have the windows locked tight. no room for the anal zyclon-b to escape
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06:19 < RangerZ1> jesus aestetix... what did you do to make Denmark hate you so much ...
06:19 < RangerZ1> http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-04/schengen-tensions-mount-as-swedish-border-checks-anger-denmark
06:19 < PigBot> Title: Denmark Imposes Controls at German Border as Schengen Frays - Bloomberg Business (at www.bloomberg.com) http://tinyurl.com/zrx86jn
06:23 < aestetix> No wonder it took Fortinbras so long to get to the castle.
06:32 < aestetix> RangerZ1: yeah things are fucked
06:46 <@brimstone> yeah, below 0°F is rough
06:48 < RangerZ1> could be worse, he could live in the South
06:53 < RangerZ1> plus Germany is farther north than Toronto
06:54 < RangerZ1> the jet stream is the only thing that gives any warmth at all to that area
06:54 < RangerZ1> any disruption in that and you have another ice age in EU
06:58 < RangerZ1> personally... I'd rather see that in the middle east right now... but we can't all have what we want
06:58 < RangerZ1> http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fbi-seeks-peaceful-end-armed-standoff-oregon-federal-building-n489606
06:58 < PigBot> Title: FBI Seeks Peaceful End to Armed Standoff at Oregon Federal Building - NBC News (at www.nbcnews.com) http://tinyurl.com/patmblf
06:58 < RangerZ1> aww, thats a shame...  I mean...
07:01 < RangerZ1> hell, this is a much clearer example than almost anything I can think of, where they have every right to just go in and say "leave peacefully in 2 hours, or we'll have to rebuild the building from its ashes"
07:02 < RangerZ1> AFAIK there are no minors in the building
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07:13 <@Evilpig> https://vine.co/v/iqwi90OWx0x
07:13 < PigBot> Title: Watch Ry Ry's Vine "Lil Mac savage knockout of Mike Tyson" (at vine.co) http://tinyurl.com/j7u3p2f
07:25 < RangerZ1> local news about his was always amusing
07:25 < RangerZ1> before he moved out of ohio
07:28 <@Evilpig> lol  https://rarbg.to/torrent/6fwipsr
07:28 < PigBot> Title: Oddball.And.The.Penguins.2015.1080p.WEBRip.x264.AAC2.0-FGT Torrent download (at rarbg.to) http://tinyurl.com/h6ks2tv
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08:47 <@Evilpig> hp sold webos to lg?
08:58 <@Dolemite> yeah, a few years ago
08:58 <@Evilpig> poor webos.  it's just been the bastard of so many deals
08:59 < RangerZ1> webOS wasn't a 'bad' OS in and of itself
08:59 <@Dolemite> At least LG is using it
08:59 < RangerZ1> but it basically couldn't compete with Android
08:59 < RangerZ1> HP just sold off another part of itself (I want to say.... servers or printers)
08:59 <@Evilpig> it could have competed if palm had open sourced it quicker
09:00 < RangerZ1> http://techcrunch.com/2015/10/21/hp-sells-network-security-business-tippingpoint-to-trend-micro-for-300m/
09:04 < aestetix> so gassy
09:09 < aestetix> this little stinky went to the toilet, this little stinky went to the bar, this little stinky ran over skunks all the way home
09:09 < aestetix> and this little stinky was named Dolemite
09:10 < RangerZ1> aestetix: so your work or personal life is having issues right now is what you are saying?
09:10 < RangerZ1> because you don't purposely pick a fight with Dolemite otherwise
09:11 < RangerZ1> if you need to see a trained councilor or psychologist, then you should try to make use of Germany's health-care system.
09:12 < RangerZ1> counselor* fucking spell check
09:12 < aestetix> RangerZ1: if you count gastrointestinal issues as "personal life"...
09:12 < RangerZ1> no, I was just pointing out that it was a dick move and that you need a snickers bar
09:13 <@CRasH180> I bought a snickers bar this morning. Yay!
09:13 < RangerZ1> "because you aren't like yourself when you are hungry" (or frazzled from stress/etc)
09:14 < RangerZ1> CRasH180: wait a minute... don't you live in nashville?
09:14 < RangerZ1> or 'near it' ?
09:14 <@CRasH180> Nope, I live in Orlando, FL
09:14 < RangerZ1> ohh nvm
09:14 <@CRasH180> Used to live in Nashville
09:14 <@Evilpig> he's from here iirc
09:14 <@CRasH180> Moved in September 2015
09:14 < RangerZ1> I was going to say... show up to friday's nashville2600
09:15 < RangerZ1> but nvm, we don't want someone from the US's penis
09:15 < aestetix> RangerZ1: I'm not stressed, just tired
09:15 < aestetix> still recovering from CCC/nye
09:15 < RangerZ1> this is the US's asshole, and that taint is a distance
09:15 < RangerZ1> hehe
09:16 <@Evilpig> I'm still confused as to the lack of meeting on friday. it's not like a weather delay it was just new years day.
09:17 < aestetix> Evilpig: not everyone spent NYE with a quick wank before bed.\
09:17 <@Evilpig> I would say everyone was sober and awake by 5pm
09:17 < aestetix> ..... really?
09:19 <@oddball> Yeah... I didn't really understand it either.
09:21 <@Evilpig> I wondered if it was because elonka was out of town, but surely that wouldn't be it
09:32 < RangerZ1> Evilpig: no, they decided this at the meeting
09:32 < RangerZ1> to 'not have it on a holiday'
09:32 < RangerZ1> just more of a "lets just not bother, and wait a week" type of thing
09:37 < aestetix> http://www.amazon.co.uk/God-Hates-Poland-Michal-Wisniewski/dp/8364682792
09:37 < PigBot> aestetix: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 20480 bytes.
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09:46 <@jb7od> Happy New Year, ppls.
09:47 <@jb7od> Taking bets on Trump starting WWIII whether he gets elected or not...
09:47 <@jb7od> Actually, no I'm not.
09:50 <@Dolemite> oddball: ping
09:50 <@oddball> pong
09:50 <@Dolemite> GeekNIC?
09:51 <@Dolemite> If interested, does 5/15 work for you?
09:51 <@oddball> hold on
09:51 < aestetix> if you want a crazy time, try reading anything in Polish
09:52 <@oddball> I don't think I have anything going on that weekend.
09:53 <@Dolemite> Ok, that looks to be the critical mass date.  I'm updating the FB page.
09:53 <@oddball> I'm not saying that I'm definitely in, but it looks good to me.
09:53 <@Mirage> oddball: yes you do...GeekNIC.  Add it to the calendar in blood now!
09:53 <@oddball> heh
09:53 <@Dolemite> oddball: Notice the loophole.  He didn't tell you whose blood to use.
09:54 <@oddball> And I did just get a new stabby knife...
09:58 <@Dolemite> Smoky Mtns GeekNIC - May 13-15 http://geeknic.net | Phreaknic 19 videos http://tinyurl.com/hk78qov
09:58 < PigBot> Title: GeekNIC 3.0 - March 20-22, 2015 (at geeknic.net) http://tinyurl.com/hzc8u6a
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09:59 <@oddball> I'm going to stay in the "maybe" category for a while due to 1. finances, and 2. the NRA convention is the next weekend in Louisville.
10:00 <@Dolemite> So if it will help you, I have a coupon for the Edgewater Hotel (next door to the River Terrace) for a buy one night get one night free.
10:01 <@oddball> Ah, chose the River Terrace again?
10:01 <@Dolemite> yep
10:02 <@Dolemite> Seems to work well for us in terms of the central location, plus it's got cheap rooms right now
10:02 <@oddball> I will probably be able to talk Naienko into going down to Gatlinburg for the weekend again.
10:02 <@oddball> Yeah.  That one place we went to just outside of town was nice, but fucking expensive for the area and checkout was at 10am.
10:05 <@Dolemite> Just booked my room
10:05 <@Mirage> oddball: it was nice and the view at the top of the hill was pretty, but it wasn't nearly as handy for walking around as River Terrace.
10:05 <@oddball> right
10:05 <@Dolemite> Yeah, it was a nice experiment
10:06 <@Mirage> the kids had fun at the pool
10:06 <@Dolemite> I had fun at the pool, too.
10:06 <@Mirage> like i said....
10:06 <@Dolemite> Even Tilghman and Teryl got in the pool on the last day.
10:06 <@Dolemite> Ben stayed there last year even though we were at the River Terrace
10:07 <@Dolemite> I think there's a free shuttle between the two since they're owned by the same company
10:11 <@oddball> Ok, the "almost annual" bit made me laugh.
10:11 <@Dolemite> I think Evilpig added that moniker to it last year
10:17 < aestetix> Ok, so curious for a perspective check-in. Is it normal for Americans to submit a 20 page resume, including copies of all school diplomas and transcripts, as well as letters of recomendation from different professors
10:17 <@CRasH180> No
10:17 < aestetix> To me, it's good to have one page, with relevant skills that show you can do the job
10:18 < aestetix> CRasH180: Indians/Russians/etc submit these fucking books
10:18 <@CRasH180> Two pages max
10:18 < aestetix> right
10:18 <@CRasH180> If relevant
10:19 < aestetix> I do not care where you went to elementary school.
10:19 < aestetix> And yet, there it is on page 15
10:19 <@CRasH180> I took courses put on by Metro Nashville on resume writing that really helped me to format my resume
10:19 < aestetix> although this one girl who is kind of cute does mention she is single.
10:19 <@CRasH180> Well, I need to know that they went to a prestigious institution for diaper treatment and playing on the playground
10:19 < aestetix> Unsure why that is on her resume, but...
10:20 <@CRasH180> It help me know that they know how to play well with others
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10:42 <@oddball> Oh, you guys would get a kick out of this: was at a gun show yesterday, and someone was selling printed out copies of the Anarchist's Cookbook.  It brought back memories.
10:47 < RangerZ1> I'd be curious to see a new version of that
10:48 < RangerZ1> I remember a kid I knew printing that back in the 90s and his mom throwing it away... he was so pissed, lol
10:49 <@oddball> You mean a new manual for kids to drool over and then either be disapointed with the recipe actually doesn't do anything or they pick the wrong one and blow themselves up?
10:51 <@oddball> I actually had a copy of the US Army's improvised munitions handbook for a while.  It got lost in the fire, and I'm actually not horribly upset about that.
10:52 <@oddball> Between owning guns and being in possession of that, if the cops ever decided that they needed to raid my place for any reason (example: getting the address of the warrant wrong), I'd make the evening news.
10:54 < Synx|hm> need a tool to map topo between my house and my sisters house
10:54 < Synx|hm> trying to determine if i can setup a point to point link
10:54 < Synx|hm> more topo analysis instead of dumbly looking at contour lines on a chart
10:55 <@oddball> Well, there goes my suggestion. :p
10:58 < _NSAKEY> oddball: Goodman's, or another?
10:58 < Synx|hm> oh neato found usgs maps for google earth
10:59 <@oddball> Goodman's
11:00 < RangerZ1> the army field manuals are good reads
11:00 < RangerZ1> as are the CIA ones (which apparently you 'can' get) my philosophy prof had a couple
11:00 < _NSAKEY> Did they hold it at the fairgrounds, or elsewhere?
11:01 <@oddball> Fairgrounds
11:01 < _NSAKEY> What happened to "We're not letting them be there anymore?"
11:01 <@oddball> Someone talked to a lawyer
11:02 <@oddball> They've already signed contracts for the next year and the gun show has already sold tables for those shows.
11:02 < _NSAKEY> Heh.
11:03 < RangerZ1> they are 100% within their rights to stop signing new contracts
11:03 < _NSAKEY> I'm guessing the guy selling the anarchist cookbook wasn't Peter.
11:03 < RangerZ1> they just have to hold the contracts they already signed
11:03 <@oddball> The council that runs the Fairgrounds did throw a hissy fit when they were told that they can't randomly change their minds after contracts are signed.
11:03 <@oddball> _NSAKEY: I don't know this Peter.
11:04 <@oddball> RangerZ1: right, they can decide to not sign future contracts, and that's a fight that I'm guessing will happen.
11:04 < RangerZ1> nah
11:05 < RangerZ1> the previous decision was technically written that way
11:05 < RangerZ1> so its fine
11:05 <@oddball> No.  no it wasn't.
11:05 < RangerZ1> whoever had the lawyer write up the proposal was smarter than they realized
11:06 < RangerZ1> fom my understanding it 'was', but they didn't realize that
11:06 < RangerZ1> lol
11:06 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ1: They were pretty clear that they didn't want the gun show there in 2016.
11:06 < RangerZ1> yep
11:06 < _NSAKEY> oddball: He's the guy who has a lot of cookbooks and things like that. I'm not even sure if he's still there.
11:06 <@oddball> ah
11:06 < _NSAKEY> The last time I went was right after Obama got elected.
11:07 < RangerZ1> but what they 'say' and what they 'passed' are two different things (from what I read, the thing they 'passed' was fine) just that they didn't realize the nuance of it)
11:07 < _NSAKEY> oddball: He used to sell me field manuals on a regular basis.
11:08 < _NSAKEY> He's also the reason that I learned generally how the field manuals came to survive long enough to be sold at places like gun shows and on ebay.
11:09 <@oddball> RangerZ1: Do you have any links to this?  That's counter to everything I've read.
11:09 < _NSAKEY> They were bought for "scrap," almost exclusively by some granny in I think Ohio or Indiana or some place like that.
11:09 < _NSAKEY> When the Army finally figured out that they were being re-sold as-is, they started mandating that they be destroyed.
11:10 <@oddball> Ah, the latest story finally says "after fullfilling existing contracts"
11:10 < RangerZ1> oddball: offhand no, just random things I read on google news at the time
11:11 <@oddball> But there *will* be another fight over this before the end of the year.
11:35 < dfused> there will be blood....YAY
11:40 < Synx|hm> ahh cool cambium has a linkplanner software that will download the highest res topo data for between two points and provide analysis
11:40 < Synx|hm> woot
11:40 < Synx|hm> i really want to do this
11:41 <@oddball> If by blood, you mean harsh words, then yes.
11:41 < Synx|hm> wonder whats in google fiber TOS about becoming a WISP on their service
12:03 < RangerZ1> you can do it, but you need to sign a business contract
12:03 < RangerZ1> not a residential
12:03 < RangerZ1> but servers are fine on residential
12:09 < Synx|hm> figured as such
12:10 < Synx|hm> if googlefiber doesn't show up at my street maybe i should start my own WISP
12:10 < Synx|hm> and bring in fiber backhaul
12:10 < Synx|hm> surely that cant be exensive (haha)
12:14 < RangerZ1> actually the price has gone down
12:14 < RangerZ1> the most expensive part is the digging
12:14 < RangerZ1> if you can use the poles, it isn't "too bad"
12:14 < RangerZ1> or if you can do the digging yourself...
12:14 < Synx|hm> poles here
12:15 < dfused> damn I like this doodad....
12:15 < dfused> https://www.vin.li/
12:15 < Synx|hm> last i attempted to look L3 access was upwards of 1grand a month for dedi 100mbit sym
12:15 < PigBot> Title: Home | Vinlilogo (at www.vin.li) http://tinyurl.com/zr482bv
12:15 < dfused> well... I like the concept anyway.
12:16 < RangerZ1> ODB2 is a very limited API
12:16 < dfused> I dont think of it as a game changer....just neat that someone thought to do it
12:16 < RangerZ1> so don't expect to actually interact with radio/etc
12:17 < Synx|hm> unless you know the mfg's propritary commands ;0
12:17 < RangerZ1> Ohh my problem is that you couldn't use the radio/etc
12:17 < Synx|hm> (i designed from scratch a OBDII scan tool as my senior project in college)
12:17 < RangerZ1> obviously you went into the wrong major then, actually working with hardware
12:17 < RangerZ1> ;) hehe
12:17 < Synx|hm> man i really wish i could get back into embedded systems design
12:18 < Synx|hm> its really what im most exicted about and happiest doing
12:18 < Synx|hm> too bad 10 years of military completely unrelated to EE killed that haha, nobody in their right mind would hire me at the salary i need now
12:19 < RangerZ1> I'll hire you at 1k$/yr
12:20 < RangerZ1> full time
12:20 < RangerZ1> even has vet insurance
12:20 < RangerZ1> hehe
12:20 < Synx|hm> ha
12:20 < RangerZ1> dental bones
12:21 < Synx|hm> this is the problem i am now finding myself in :( leaving active duty making over 6figures to the civ world with no useful experience in the tech sector, nobody wants to hire me for anything other than entry level jobs :(
12:22 < Synx|hm> got lucky with the place im at now, but i want to move on, if i can land an interview then ill do fine but i cant get past peoples email box right now, i had one interview for the state that we amazing but they were just a bit short on the salary
12:22 < Synx|hm> and i do not enjoy mgmt or sales jobs
12:23 < RangerZ1> you're basically a gov't employee for the rest of your life , either through directly or contracts
12:23 < RangerZ1> look for a company that gets dod contracts, especially DARPA or AFARPA
12:23 < Synx|hm> ha, im considering going from reserves to tn national guard and trying to get hired by the UAS unit at BNA
12:23 < RangerZ1> they love having someone with military exp. to act as go-between
12:28 < Synx|hm> funny my dream job out of college was OBDII engineer specificall for Nissan (who was HQ'd at the time near where i lived in socali)
12:31 < Synx|hm> when that specific job opened at the new HQ here in town for Nissan i was floored however they didn't take me up on the offer to work for them haha
12:41 < aestetix> Synx|hm: how many years do you have?
12:41 < aestetix> oh 10
12:41 < aestetix> so 10 more and you get pension, right?
12:42 < Synx|hm> yes sir, but since i left active duty and went reserve i have to wait till 65 to collect said pension and it wont be as much as if i had been a full timer
12:43 < aestetix> Synx|hm: at least you have an actual pension, unlike social security
12:44 < Synx|hm> indeed, that is however assuming i survive another 10 years of driving 10 hours to shreveport every other month for a week of military
12:45 < Synx|hm> and that is a LARGE assumption
12:46 < RangerZ1> social security is fine, the fear mongering about it is nothing but that
12:47 < RangerZ1> and if we got rid of the cap of social security tax being 116k (or whatever it is now exactly) it would be solvent for 80+ years, beyond where they can do predictions of population
12:47 < aestetix> RangerZ1: yes, but you have to stay alive long enough to take advantage of it.
12:47 < RangerZ1> ohh I agree, it isn't a 'substitute' for a retirement fund if you can afford it
12:48 < RangerZ1> but I'm always careful to never use GOP talking points like that around social benefits
12:48 < aestetix> so the young pay into social security, and then the american health care system kills them before they can collect
12:50 < RangerZ1> and?
12:50 < RangerZ1> thats how it was designed to work
12:50 < RangerZ1> that is why jobs mostly non-whites had in the 50s/60s are exempt from social security benefits
12:51 < RangerZ1> same with female employee jobs
12:51 < RangerZ1> how else would LBJ have gotten them passed through the southern states?
12:51 < RangerZ1> lol
12:52 < RangerZ1> that is why home healthcare workers, farmers, teachers, etc aren't on SS
12:55 < RangerZ1> actually i'm not sure about teachers in that... but I know the other two
12:56 < RangerZ1> think teachers fall under 'state employees' being exempt... which leads to state employees being fucked over more b/c states play with bonds, gold investments, stocks, mutual funds, etc....
14:36 < RangerZ1> http://i100.independent.co.uk/article/oregon-terrorists-dont-plan-siege-very-well-put-out-plea-for-snacks-and-supplies--ZJglh9sRjx
14:36 < PigBot> RangerZ1: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 20480 bytes.
14:36 < RangerZ1> HAHAHAHAHAHA
14:38 < RangerZ1> I'll bring any of you snacks when you go OK-Corral (as long as it close to my route on my drive into work)
14:40 < _NSAKEY> So how long before they're starved out?
14:40 <@CRasH180> when the vending machine runs out of snacks
14:42 < _NSAKEY> Do you think this group of clowns is smart enough to break the vending machine if they run out of money before it runs out of snacks?
14:43 <@CRasH180> 'You can't break through that glass. It is "inpenatrouble".'
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14:53 <@Dolemite> https://twitter.com/verylonelyluke
14:53 < PigBot> Title: Very Lonely Luke (@VeryLonelyLuke) | Twitter (at twitter.com) http://tinyurl.com/z85uy7x
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16:01 <@dasunt> So, why doesn't the FBI just surround the building with razor wire, then throw up a huge screen and projector and start showing Michael Moore movies interspaced with food ads?
16:07 <@dasunt> Admittedly, it probably wouldn't be the wisest thing to do, but it may be entertaining.
16:15 < _NSAKEY> Or they could show dinner scenes from Thanksgiving movies, interspersed with food ads.
16:15 < _NSAKEY> Or really, anything involving a large table of food.
16:18 <@dasunt> Giant fans, freshly cooked food.
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16:25 <@dasunt> Okay, #yokelharam is rather cute.
16:47 <@Evilpig> this server is loud as fuck
16:47 <@Evilpig> but I expected that.  what I didn't expect was that my monitor was gonna go tits up on me and not be a pal
16:48 <@Evilpig> even the power supplies on this bitch are loud.  I turned it off and they are still going.  since this came from softlayer I can assume they tweaked the bios for extra cooling all the time settings.
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21:53 <@Evilpig> http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/01/04/fallout-4-mod-turns-deathclaws-into-macho-man-randy-savage
21:53 < PigBot> Title: Fallout 4 Mod Turns Deathclaws Into Macho Man Randy Savage - IGN (at www.ign.com) http://tinyurl.com/j3nhuds
21:54 < dfused> oooooooooyeeeaaaaahhhh!!!!!
21:54 < dfused> lol
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22:02 < RangerZ1> so say what you want about libpurple/pidgin, it has a checkbox to handle UTF ;)
22:02 < dfused> VHF is better
22:02 < RangerZ1> weird al disagrees
22:03 < RangerZ1> at least now
22:03 < dfused> ha.....well played
22:04 < RangerZ1> I would ping dagmar... but he is wresting with his new cable modem, and the _minimum_ service he can buy with comcast now that he's a google fiber-ville (being installed, not yet there) .... 250/25 lol
22:04 < RangerZ1> I found that amusing
22:05 < dfused> meh I cannot mock... best I get is 7M down
22:06 < RangerZ1> dfused: where do you live the moon?
22:06 < RangerZ1> 10Mbit/sec down and 3Mbit/sec up from the station
22:07 < RangerZ1> ohh the 'station' in that is ... http://www.tested.com/science/space/449539-how-fast-isss-internet-and-other-space-questions-answered/
22:07 < PigBot> Title: How Fast is the ISSs Internet? (and Other Space Questions Answered) - Tested (at www.tested.com) http://tinyurl.com/ay4fbyh
22:07 < RangerZ1> I'll give you a few seconds for your round trip latency
22:07 < dfused> damn ...so i get worse speeds than the damn space stn
22:08  * RangerZ1 pats dfused on the back
22:08 < dfused> hargray stops all of a mile from here... and with them I could get 100M
22:11 < RangerZ1> at least you can play mudd with low latency
22:12 < RangerZ1> MUD(s)*
22:12 < dfused> I can stream my roku
22:14 < RangerZ1> don't worry, they will soon give you a cap of 30 GB/mo
22:15 < dfused> commies
22:19 < RangerZ1> don't worry, comcast sill buy TWC as soon as trump wins
22:19 < RangerZ1> and then they will order state gov't(s) to not allow (google or any other) fiber anymore
22:19 < RangerZ1> so your speed will be "super high speed"
22:20 < RangerZ1> but you'll have to pay 2x it
22:20 < RangerZ1> also.... Obama is fucking playing 3D chess with the republicans right now
22:20 < RangerZ1> https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-to-unveil-new-gun-restrictions-slams-congress-for-inaction/2016/01/04/81d539e8-b2fb-11e5-a842-0feb51d1d124_story.html
22:20 < PigBot> Title: Obama details executive action on gun restrictions - The Washington Post (at www.washingtonpost.com) http://tinyurl.com/jurwlqa
22:21 < RangerZ1> This is going to be amusing
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22:25 < RangerZ1> the more reasonable he can sell it as... the more people fighting against it seem silly
22:26 < RangerZ1> plus an armed 'militia' holding a fed. building with guns.... hahaha
22:27 <@oddball> By declaring Executive Orders that... do jack shit?
22:27 < dfused> the media has beat this drum long enough that these days the vocal majority are very much behind extreme gun control
22:28 <@oddball> dfused: That's not what elections have reflected.
22:29 < RangerZ1> Ohh I agree that they are very reasonable new rules (from the ones I saw, manf. must report guns that are stolen guns before they are sold, and that all gun sellers (online and gun shows) must be licensed and do background checks
22:29 <@oddball> The actual effect the orders is... ummm... the BATFE is getting more money... and that's it.
22:29 <@oddball> See... those are already law.
22:30 < RangerZ1> and?
22:30 < RangerZ1> it can make the republicans inflamed
22:31 < RangerZ1> hell the only better part would be him adding in funding to BLM too
22:32 <@oddball> I agree that the Congressional Republicans are being idiots for being outraged before knowing what they're outraged about.
22:33 < RangerZ1> same as the Hyde amendment they keep on passing
22:33 <@oddball> And adding money specifically to the instant background check has been needed... since there have been several times this year that the system melted down under the load of all the gun sales.
22:33 < RangerZ1> We're super duper extra 4x preventing funding from Federal Dollars to go to helping fun abortions
22:34 < RangerZ1> fund*
22:34 < RangerZ1> fun abortions was freudian slip, but still.
22:34 < RangerZ1> lol
22:34 <@oddball> I was wondering how was having the fun abortions. :p
22:34 < RangerZ1> also.... 2 days on 2hrs sleep
22:36 < RangerZ1> ohh
22:36 < RangerZ1> fuck me...
22:37 < RangerZ1> the camera I just dropped 3ft and caught 1ft above the floor.... 2.5k$
22:37 < RangerZ1> http://business.panasonic.com/AG-AC90A.html#start=1&cgid=products-avtechnology-professionalvideo-camcorders-avccam
22:37 < PigBot> Title: AVCCAM HD handheld camcorder at Panasonic (at business.panasonic.com) http://tinyurl.com/hdwcro8
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22:51 <@oddball> but you caught it, and it's fine, right?
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22:53 <@Dagmar> Finally back online.  Still using the old cablemodem right now tho
22:54 < RangerZ1> yeah, its fine
22:54 <@Evilpig> nothing wrong with your old modem as long as you have a comcast connection still
22:54 < RangerZ1> i was putting it on its stand and tripped a bit over a lighting tripod
22:54 < RangerZ1> yes there is
22:54 < RangerZ1> his old modem has a cap of 12Mbps or something
22:55 < RangerZ1> lol
22:55 <@Evilpig> that still isn't super slow
22:55 <@Evilpig> i'm crashing.  i'm beat.
22:56 <@Evilpig> I got into the bios on that server and set the fan speeds back to auto but they still cranked at full.  I think I saw in the motherboard manual there is a jumper that can force them to full as well.  I'll check that tomorrow then I'll just have to install an os and see if I can quiet them down
22:57 < RangerZ1> or install a USB fan controller, etc
23:05 <@Dagmar> root
23:05 <@Dagmar> blerp
23:09 <@Dagmar> You know what works surprisingly badly?
23:09 <@Dagmar> Connecting two ethernet segments between a wireless ap and a switch
23:09 <@Dagmar> Maybe one of those should be plugged into the back of my firewall
23:10 <@Dagmar> Yeah.  That's way better
23:11 <@Dagmar> I was trying to figure out why my wireless segment wasn't working right in this mess, and saw that the lights were going like mad on the switch.
23:11 <@Dagmar> "Almost like it's in a loop"
23:11 <@Dagmar> ...then I look at the AP, see the same green and light-blue cable plugged in over there.
23:11 <@Dagmar> "Oh.... EXACTLY like it's in a loop"
23:15 < RangerZ1> you mean like how you did to vandy's network (according to some people?)
23:16 < RangerZ1> hehe
23:16 <@oddball> I was there when someone did do that... and it wasn't Dagmar
23:17 <@Dagmar> Who might those people be?  Clearly, they need verbal retraining
23:18 <@Dagmar> With one minor exception my work at Vandy was as flawless as that of Jesus himsefl
23:19 <@Dagmar> Hopefully i can figure out WTF I did with my wireless keyboard and mouse
23:19 <@Dagmar> If I can, I might just have to be forced to keep using the 41" TV as a monitor for a few days
23:21 < RangerZ1> Dagmar: you left those in Evilpig's truck bed.... :/
23:21  * RangerZ1 giggles more at that thought than I really should....
23:26 < RangerZ1> http://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/gaming/631506/Assassin-s-Creed-Empire-PS4-Ubisoft-Xbox-One-PC
23:26 < PigBot> Title: Assassin’s Creed Empire: Ubisoft set to end the cycle on PS4, Xbox One and PC | Gaming | Entertainment | Daily Express (at www.express.co.uk) http://tinyurl.com/j6mtdwc
23:27 < RangerZ1> GOOD, they need to take some time and 1) rethink the overall plot/story, etc 2) take the time needed to make a _quality_ proeduct
23:28 < RangerZ1> and WatchDogs 2 possibly next year instead... I'd love for them to alternate each year, and actually make 'good' games
23:29 < RangerZ1> oddball:  Dagmar I know you both play one/other of those series
23:29 <@oddball> I haven't played the last couple Assasin Creed games, but I enjoyed the ones I did play.
23:30 < RangerZ1> last few have been paint by numbers
23:31 < RangerZ1> which is the first mainline AC game I haven't beaten, I stopped with unity, b/c of the online crap.... but the newest one is rated as good... but not 'great'
23:32 < RangerZ1> they need to work more on 'gameplay' for both series
23:41 < aestetix> penis
23:45 < aestetix> can we talk about star wars yet?
23:58 < RangerZ1> I'd say next after weekend
23:58 < RangerZ1> I'd say 'after next' weekend*
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