--- Log opened Wed Dec 30 00:00:15 2015 00:34 <@RangerZ> Dagmar: quick question for you 00:34 <@RangerZ> can widgets have background threads? 00:36 <@RangerZ> nvm, i found the answer, yes, but best to use service 00:40 <@Dagmar> Welcome to the New Nightmare, man 00:40 <@RangerZ> answering a stack overflow question actually 00:40 <@RangerZ> basically... 'good luck man' 00:41 <@Dagmar> URL? 00:41 <@RangerZ> hold on 00:41 <@Dagmar> because seriously, they kinda fucked us in 5.0 00:41 <@RangerZ> https://stackoverflow.com/posts/34458150/ 00:41 < PigBot> Couldn't snarf url: HTTP Error 404: Not Found. http://tinyurl.com/zbfv989 00:41 <@RangerZ> the question isn't about widgets per se 00:41 <@RangerZ> hold on 00:41 <@RangerZ> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/34457909/can-a-broadcast-receiver-receive-a-mobile-data-connectivity-change-notification/34458150 00:41 < PigBot> Title: java - Can a Broadcast Receiver receive a Mobile Data CONNECTIVITY_CHANGE notification while WiFi is enabled? - Stack Overflow (at stackoverflow.com) http://tinyurl.com/z9sxdje 00:42 <@Dagmar> There shouldn't be any difference between widgets and apps with respect to that 00:42 <@Dagmar> At least none that I can think of 00:43 <@RangerZ> there isn't 00:44 <@Dagmar> There's some extra bullshit with Android 5.0 and apps not being able to touch network stuff anymore, but I don't think that would impact listening for the broadcast 00:44 <@RangerZ> I just remembering hearing your cries and screams when I opened my window and the echos reverberated off the river and reached East Nashville... when you were working on this 00:44 <@Dagmar> Yes, becuse of hte way ART will reap your shit when you blink 00:45 <@Dagmar> It's the reason I switched to using hte type of alarm handler that I did 00:46 <@RangerZ> BTW, I think I realized a MUCH more accurate way for you to do that 00:46 <@RangerZ> and much simpler too 00:47 <@RangerZ> you create a service and have your widget use one-way AIDL to create an asynchronous Callback , and then have the service create a runnable the relaunches each 1000ms. and when it does that it calls a method on the callback. 00:48 <@Dagmar> Well, I'd love to hear it because right now I'm stuck with having to set up two alarm handlers, each firing one minute apart, in two minute intervals, just to guaranee the fucker can't get shut down and flushed by the garbage collector, AND a local handler thing that fires every second 00:48 <@Dagmar> I would rather not push a release that works quite _that_ way 00:48 <@RangerZ> I'm not sure about the 'stay alive' part , but the 2nd part I can show you quite easily 00:49 <@Dagmar> Sure. every little bit helps 00:49 <@RangerZ> AIDL is basically a 'hidden feature' 00:49 <@RangerZ> they support it, but the docs even say "we don't provide support for this" 00:49 <@RangerZ> and honestly its the ONLY way I'd ever write a service now, so clean/efficient 00:49 <@Dagmar> It uses IBinder? I thought that was dewad 00:49 <@Dagmar> er dead 00:50 <@RangerZ> nope 00:50 <@RangerZ> binder is _literally_ the basis of android 00:50 <@RangerZ> it is what allows IPC 00:50 <@RangerZ> since android doesn't allow sysV IPC 00:50 <@Dagmar> Hell I'd use a perl script writing to a fifo if I could get away with it 00:50 <@RangerZ> so no pipe for you ;) 00:51 <@RangerZ> http://perltricks.com/article/97/2014/6/16/How-to-build-Perl-on-Android-4-4 00:51 < PigBot> Title: How to build Perl on Android 4.4 (at perltricks.com) http://tinyurl.com/mpzu6zr 00:51 * RangerZ whistles quietly 00:51 <@RangerZ> hehe 00:51 <@RangerZ> but yeah the AIDL answer will work on any android device 00:52 <@RangerZ> I'll have to look into the GC stuff 00:52 <@Dagmar> I might try it but this doesn't look like it solves the fundamental problem I am seeing 00:52 <@Dagmar> ...which is that there appears to be no way to guarantee a widget will continue to get any clock cycles in the future 00:52 <@Dagmar> Start a new thread, GC can kill it. Start up a service, GC can kill it 00:53 <@RangerZ> ohh it doesn't 00:53 <@RangerZ> I was just kidding 00:53 <@Dagmar> The AlarmManager, on the other hand... gets left the fuck alone 00:53 <@Dagmar> So at least I can rely on it's callback to revivify the widget at the top of the next minute 00:53 <@Dagmar> Otherwise it seems like there's _always_ a time when the GC can break all your damn widgets 00:55 <@RangerZ> 'properly' handling hardware config changes (IE phone turned sideways) is almost impossible 00:55 <@RangerZ> it took us weeks to get it right, and honestly I think our 'fix' is hacky as hell 00:55 <@RangerZ> so convoluted 00:56 <@Dagmar> Oh for widgets that's just a clusterfuck 00:56 <@Dagmar> You dont' get any notification at all 00:56 <@RangerZ> :/ 00:56 <@Dagmar> You'd just damn well better hope that you can add an XML file for the new orientation with all the same everythings as the other, but with a more appropriate layout 00:56 <@RangerZ> and when I say 'we' I mean a team of people where I was the only non-PhD... 00:57 <@Dagmar> ...because execution doesn't appear to come back to widgets at _all_ on an orientation change 00:57 <@Dagmar> I actually tried just listening for every intent. 00:57 <@Dagmar> DIdn't see shit happening 00:57 <@RangerZ> there was like 4 of us working on it on/off at different points thinking "this is it" and then we found another edge case... vicious cycle repeated for a while 00:57 <@RangerZ> there is a specific notification for that 00:58 <@Dagmar> Is that the one that only fires if the orientation change happens _while_ the desktop is visible? 00:58 <@Dagmar> Because that was a thing I found to be super-hilarious 00:58 <@RangerZ> ohh nvm its just a method http://stackoverflow.com/a/5726776/2801237 00:58 < PigBot> Couldn't snarf url: HTTP Error 400: Bad Request. http://tinyurl.com/z2m6mal 00:58 <@Dagmar> Run an app, rotate phone... no message comes to widget 01:00 <@Dagmar> I'm going to drop that one into my Coding bookmarks and come back around to it later 01:04 <@Dagmar> I wasn't sure if the orientation problem was Android or NovaLauncher, and I don't intend to give up NovaLauncher. ;) 01:04 <@Dagmar> Maybe it works correctly now 01:04 <@Dagmar> I know at at least one point I actually found a _bug_ in NovaLauncher 01:15 <@Dagmar> I guess it's about time to move some cats, but I think I'm going to just spray for bugs and wait until tomorrow to relocate them 01:16 <@Dagmar> I know the bug spray I use is nasty stuff. Don't want any kitties trying to lick it up 01:16 <@Dagmar> I also know that stink bugs are getting through the patio sliding doors somehow, and I intend to put a stop to that shit 01:17 <@Dagmar> I worry that my baby will miss me tho 01:24 <@RangerZ> okay... 5 windows of chrome each with `20 tabs 01:24 <@RangerZ> adobe premiere 01:24 <@RangerZ> android studio 01:24 <@RangerZ> and surprisingly my system is 'running' 01:24 <@Dagmar> Use ALL teh rams! 01:24 <@RangerZ> 16GB of ram FTW 01:28 <@Dagmar> I guess I should take some vitamin aspirin 01:28 -!- RangerZ1 [~Mike@c-98-240-43-56.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 01:29 <@Dagmar> I'm gonna take the cats over 01:29 <@Dagmar> Hopefully neither of them will _eat_ a stink bug and then come breathe on me 01:30 -!- RangerZ [~Mike@c-98-240-43-56.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:55 < RangerZ1> http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/30/us/severe-weather-us/ 05:55 < PigBot> Title: U.S. severe weather: Missouri rivers flooding - CNN.com (at www.cnn.com) http://tinyurl.com/hlzqasd 05:55 < RangerZ1> that is not at ALL the title on the page... 05:55 < RangerZ1> cnn... what are you doing... this isn't rocket surgery 07:05 <@Evilpig> mmmm rocket surgery. pass the o2 pump 07:32 -!- CRasH180 [~Adium@199.91.139.248] has joined #se2600 07:32 -!- CRasH180 [~Adium@199.91.139.248] has quit [Changing host] 07:32 -!- CRasH180 [~Adium@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 07:32 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 07:56 -!- CRasH180 [~Adium@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:56 -!- CRasH180 [~Adium@199.91.139.248] has joined #se2600 07:56 -!- CRasH180 [~Adium@199.91.139.248] has quit [Changing host] 07:56 -!- CRasH180 [~Adium@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 07:56 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 08:13 <@Evilpig> have y'all ever seen observium? http://www.observium.org/ 08:13 < PigBot> Title: Observium (at www.observium.org) http://tinyurl.com/qh55tuy 08:23 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-98-240-43-56.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 08:23 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o RangerZ] by ChanServ 08:23 <@RangerZ> WELL.... THAT makes it official 08:24 <@RangerZ> I can -reliably- blue screen win 10 08:24 <@RangerZ> with android studio :/ 08:24 <@RangerZ> (apparently the haxm driver "really" doesn't like my laptop under win 10) 08:24 -!- RangerZ1 [~Mike@c-98-240-43-56.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:25 <@RangerZ> Evilpig: I haven't seen that link you posted about the auto-discovery network, but I could ask people who wrote their PhD thesis on that topic... (and those who still are) later today, see what they say (The DOC group still works heavily on that kind of area) 08:26 <@Evilpig> I was just curious if anyone had used it. it looks easy but that isn't always good 08:26 <@RangerZ> but if it is published like that then it can only fall into 1 of 2 categories 1) it fails under -real- scale 2) it is naive and wastes bandwidth/etc. 08:27 <@Evilpig> I'm letting it poke at my stuff at home just to see 08:27 <@RangerZ> because 'good' discovery protocols are still a place you can _cash out_ if you find and sell to someone like RTI, SEIMANS, etc 08:27 <@Evilpig> this is just snmp monitoring 08:27 <@RangerZ> ahh, ok 08:28 <@Evilpig> http://observium.wilpig.com/ l/p stats/stats 08:28 < PigBot> Title: MRTG Index Page (at observium.wilpig.com) http://tinyurl.com/qaou8t6 08:29 <@RangerZ> doug wrote TAO ontop of the ACE middleware like 25 years ago, and dozens upon dozens if not hundreds of people have gotten their PhDs working on that area, lol (different parts over the years obviously) 08:29 <@RangerZ> your lat/lon is 0,0 08:29 <@RangerZ> the salt water must be killer on the servers 08:30 <@RangerZ> nvm... 'network monitoring' not 'network' 08:30 <@RangerZ> I thought this shit was setting up a middleware or some kind 08:30 <@RangerZ> this is just nagios-lite 08:31 <@RangerZ> or hell, it might be nagios-pro by the looks of it 08:31 <@Evilpig> not sure it has notifications but it looks like a nifty way to track. easier than mrtg by far 08:34 <@RangerZ> by law it has to be obtuse to use, and not 'actually' do what you want, it is GNU 08:35 <@RangerZ> mrtg that is ;) 08:44 <@Mirage> Evilpig: why not just use Cacti then? 08:45 <@Evilpig> just looking at stuff 08:45 <@Evilpig> this here will supposedly get the status of libvirt based vm's as well 09:01 -!- CRasH1801 [~Adium@199.91.139.248] has joined #se2600 09:01 -!- CRasH180 [~Adium@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:34 -!- CRasH1801 [~Adium@199.91.139.248] has left #se2600 [] 09:35 <@oddball> Anyone on that was at B-Sides last year? 09:37 <@Evilpig> pretty sure _NSAKEY went 09:37 <@oddball> Yeah, I think he spoke last year. 09:38 <@oddball> Was on the phone with a guy wanting some info about it. Figured I'd ask if anyone was one that knew *right now* 09:38 <@oddball> I think Ben was also there. 09:40 <@Evilpig> I figured he might appear if his name was spoken 09:41 <@oddball> ah 09:43 <@Evilpig> sooooo... oddball, did you ask panya if you could goto dejavu this weekend and see the hillbilly and the midget? 09:44 <@oddball> wait... what? 09:44 <@Evilpig> see the link I posted yesterday 09:44 <@oddball> Jon Staten and Laura are going to be at DejaVu? 09:46 <@oddball> somewhere in the scrollback? 09:46 <@Evilpig> sec 09:46 <@Evilpig> http://se2600.org/ircstats/day.html 09:46 < PigBot> Couldn't snarf url: HTTP Error 404: Not Found. http://tinyurl.com/pasc7c7 09:47 <@Evilpig> http://dejavunashville.com/new-years-wtf-weekend-with-little 09:47 < PigBot> Title: New Year’s WTF Weekend with LITTLE SASSEE CASSEE and MAMA JUNE - Deja Vu Showgirls (at dejavunashville.com) http://tinyurl.com/hzpa84j 09:48 <@oddball> ha! 09:48 <@oddball> "unfortunately," we've got parties we've already told people we're going to. 09:49 <@Evilpig> pretty sure most of your friends would understand "there's a freakshow in town and I gotta go look" 09:56 < _NSAKEY> oddball: What about bsides? 09:56 <@oddball> Am I remembering that it's free admission? 09:57 < _NSAKEY> No. It's $10. 09:57 <@oddball> ah, so.... might as well be. :p 09:57 < _NSAKEY> It's also a 1 day con, and they have sponsors out the ass. 09:57 <@oddball> gotcha 09:57 < _NSAKEY> You get a shirt with that $10. 09:58 <@Evilpig> with sponsors on it. ;) 09:58 < _NSAKEY> Actually, no. 09:58 <@Evilpig> lies! 09:58 < _NSAKEY> It just has their logo. 09:58 < _NSAKEY> I'll pull it out and take pictures if you want. 09:58 <@oddball> And the guy was asking about contact info. I'm guessing the best is the info@bsidesnash.com address. 09:58 <@Evilpig> sponsors must go on everything! this is the rule of corporate 'merica 09:58 < Synx|hm> i just told my boss that sales is ruining our company 09:59 <@oddball> Hey, if sponsors mean that they can host it for that, then good for them. 09:59 < Synx|hm> now he wants to have a chat, i hope that means he is receptive to my very legit concerns and thta this doesn't become a fix your attitude instead 09:59 <@oddball> Synx|hm: Eh, sales depts. tend to fuck shit up. 10:00 < Synx|hm> Synx|hm: yes and thats why for a software company they must keep sales in check, unfortunantly we've lost our software company focus and become a sales company, so they rule with an iron fist 10:01 < Synx|hm> Evilpig: you seem to run a similar sized home network file storage setup, whats your cloud backup strategy or do you have a different strategy? 10:01 < Synx|hm> i've been looking for a good secure place to offload my important backups off my zfs pool for a while and am just not happy with the offerings 10:02 < Synx|hm> glacier is too complicated to be meaningfull for me at the moment, crashplan/backblaze/etc i dont know how much i trust though some offer store your own encryption key 10:03 < Synx|hm> rsync.net looks f'ing amazing (zfs replication) however its expensive all fuck for a consumer so really only viable to a large scale business 10:05 < _NSAKEY> oddball: bsides also tends to have a very demographic from say, PhreakNIC. 10:05 < _NSAKEY> PhreakNIC is mostly older people who have been around a while. 10:05 <@oddball> thanks 10:05 < _NSAKEY> Over 50% of the people at bsides last year had never been to a con before. 10:05 <@Evilpig> cloud backup.. lol. yeah right. no cloud provider in their right mind is gonna let me backup and be cost effective 10:06 < Synx|hm> Evilpig: ha im not looking to backup video just photos and such 10:06 <@Evilpig> I offload my most important shit, a couple of gigs, to two offsite sources 10:06 < _NSAKEY> s/very/very different/ 10:07 < Synx|hm> Evilpig: k ive considered that but im not diligent enough to keep at that 10:07 <@Evilpig> mine's automated 10:08 <@Evilpig> diff's once a week, monthly is a complete push 10:08 <@Evilpig> sql data is pushed daily 10:19 < Synx|hm> Evilpig: oh you dont sneaker net out drives you just send out to some other locations via rsync or something? 10:21 <@Evilpig> yeah 10:21 <@Evilpig> I've got a nightly rsync that runs 10:21 < Synx|hm> cool, id like to do that but fear of the f'ing data cap 10:21 < Synx|hm> at the moment somehow comcast has lost track of my modem because ive been pulling down 1TB+ for the past 3 months no overages 10:21 < Synx|hm> and the online usage tool has said "unavailable at the moment" for the entire time 10:23 < _NSAKEY> Synx|hm: rsync is still your answer, especially if you're doing somethng like an important couple of gigs. 10:23 < Synx|hm> agreed 10:24 < _NSAKEY> The initial upload will use a lot of bandwidth, but after that only the changes get pushed. 10:24 < Synx|hm> hence why id like to find a 'cloud' rsync target 10:24 < _NSAKEY> I used this for years: 10:24 < _NSAKEY> rsync -vartplze ssh --owner --group --progress --partial --stats 10:24 -!- CRasH180 [~Adium@199.91.139.248] has joined #se2600 10:24 -!- CRasH180 [~Adium@199.91.139.248] has quit [Changing host] 10:24 -!- CRasH180 [~Adium@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 10:24 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 10:27 <@Evilpig> jesus. I just realized this one backup is moving 62g+ each month 10:28 <@Evilpig> it's growing about 120MB each day it seems. 10:39 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@c-98-240-43-56.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 10:40 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-98-240-43-56.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:47 <@brimstone> i use rsync -Pa 10:47 <@brimstone> sometimes -Paz 10:47 <@brimstone> way easier to remember than vartplatz 10:47 <@Evilpig> and othertimes he just yells at it until it moves 10:47 <@brimstone> sometimes 10:51 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@c-98-240-43-56.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:51 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-98-240-43-56.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 10:51 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o RangerZ] by ChanServ 10:55 < _NSAKEY> brimstone: I didn't bother memorizing that. It's in a text file. 10:56 < _NSAKEY> brimstone: How was congress? 10:56 <@brimstone> _NSAKEY: still good 10:56 <@brimstone> wraps up in 2 hours 11:05 -!- jb7od [jb7od@link.8bitwizard.net] has quit [Changing host] 11:05 -!- jb7od [jb7od@unaffiliated/jb7od] has joined #se2600 11:05 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o jb7od] by ChanServ --- Log closed Wed Dec 30 11:22:19 2015 --- Log opened Wed Dec 30 11:22:30 2015 11:22 -!- Evilpig [~wilpig@wilpig.org] has joined #se2600 11:22 -!- Irssi: #se2600: Total of 44 nicks [17 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 27 normal] 11:22 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Evilpig] by ChanServ 11:22 -!- Irssi: Join to #se2600 was synced in 18 secs 11:27 < Synx|hm> anybody seen updates on google fiber rollout progress? 11:27 < Synx|hm> ive seen a few permits for huts around the city but haven't really seen any official word yet on when and where to expect it first 11:27 < Synx|hm> for nashville 11:28 <@Evilpig> nope, but if you find that info I want it 11:29 < Synx|hm> k, you see the hut permit map? 11:29 < Synx|hm> https://data.nashville.gov/Development-and-Housing/Google-Fiber-Huts/g338-b7ev 11:29 < PigBot> Title: Google Fiber Huts | Open Data | Metropolitan Government of Nashville and Davidson County, TN (at data.nashville.gov) http://tinyurl.com/zndfrx5 11:29 < Synx|hm> obviously i doubt that is complete but its interesting to wonder about for sure 11:29 <@CRasH180> Everytime I hear huts, I cannot help by think of Pizza Hut 11:31 < Synx|hm> ha 11:31 < Synx|hm> are the full pizza huts with sit down buffets still around 11:32 <@CRasH180> One of those huts is right down the road from my house in Nashville 11:32 <@oddball> Synx|hm: They're laying fiber on the west side of town now. Specifically down Charlotte and in Green Hills. 11:32 < Synx|hm> i miss me some dessert pizza 11:32 <@CRasH180> There is one on Nolensville Pk/Old Hickory Blvd 11:32 < Synx|hm> CRasH180: oh? i live right there 11:32 <@CRasH180> Actually, I am not sure if it is a full pizza hut 11:32 < Synx|hm> oh pizza hut damn side conversations 11:33 <@CRasH180> I used to live over near Fairlane 11:33 < Synx|hm> im down nolensville between old hickory and the pie in the sky at lennox villiage 11:34 <@CRasH180> I am tow roads behind Tusculum Hills Baptist Church over near Planet Fitness. Well, s/am tow roads/was towards 11:37 <@Evilpig> 300sq/ft building with generator 11:37 <@CRasH180> Yeah, saw the same 11:38 <@Evilpig> you can fit alot of stuff in a space that size 11:39 <@CRasH180> I searched for Google Hut With Generator on Google Images and results provided this: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/e5/6c/85/e56c85feadf99419537f4d6ee15b3fdb.jpg 11:39 <@CRasH180> also, this: https://support.google.com/fiber_newcities/answer/6286607?hl=en 11:39 < PigBot> Title: Hut building and construction specifics - Fiber Info for City Officials (at support.google.com) http://tinyurl.com/zxfb62h 11:40 <@Evilpig> http://comptechrt.blogspot.com/2012/09/google-fiber-install.html 11:40 < PigBot> Title: Random Thoughts of Network Engineer: Google Fiber Install (at comptechrt.blogspot.com) http://tinyurl.com/zdrz3yl 11:40 <@CRasH180> I see a lot of these vaults in Florida, where I live now 11:40 <@CRasH180> fiber vaults 11:41 <@CRasH180> Actually, not sure if they are fiber or not 11:41 <@CRasH180> Since AT&T is only offering 12Mbps connection, I would say they are not fiber vaults 11:41 <@Evilpig> I would say they are fiber vaults and at&t is just giing you the finger 11:41 < Synx|hm> Evilpig: you talking about the building on old hickory at nolensville? ive seen ATT in and out of there 11:42 <@CRasH180> Evilpig: I imagine you are correct about that 11:42 <@Evilpig> they have no incentive to offer you better service other than your happiness and that doesn't equate to $$$$$ 11:43 <@CRasH180> I know 11:43 <@CRasH180> sucks, but I know 11:44 < Synx|hm> ha 11:44 < Synx|hm> what is comcast's 2gbit service riding on? they have fiber backhaul? or that some super docsis 3.0 cape 11:44 < Synx|hm> because they say its basically avail everywhere in davidson 11:45 -!- K4k [~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 11:46 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-98-240-43-56.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:48 < Synx|hm> as much as i hate comcast their service has been very reliable at least 11:48 <@CRasH180> I thought it was docsis 3.1 11:48 <@CRasH180> Not when I had Comcast it was not 11:48 < Synx|hm> oh maybe thats the deal they've upgraded the plants to 3.1 11:48 <@CRasH180> that was what it was 11:49 <@CRasH180> Reading about this in an article posted to reddit a few days ago 11:49 < Synx|hm> id like to read up more on what the cable arch looks like 11:49 < Synx|hm> eg, whats the backhaul between the plants look like etc what type of medium etc 11:51 < Synx|hm> on that note same for the backhaul between the cell towers around here 11:51 <@CRasH180> She doesn't do that show any more. She is on CSI: Cyber now 11:51 < Synx|hm> i mean there must be massive amounts of BW avail all over the fucking place why is home internet so slow 11:52 <@CRasH180> cost is what they are claiming 11:52 <@CRasH180> bs is what I am claiming 11:52 < Synx|hm> ya we all know that is 100% BS 11:52 <@CRasH180> 1000% 11:52 <@CRasH180> yeah 11:54 < Synx|hm> ive got half a mind to climb the poll in my yard and really take a look at what is up there ha 11:55 <@Evilpig> Synx|hm: if you do that please get someone to film it, and start it off by saying "hey y'all watch this" 11:55 < Synx|hm> yes and ill make sure to bring a beer to the top with me 11:55 < Synx|hm> im reminded of a specific scene in 'the burbs' 11:55 < Synx|hm> haha 11:55 * CRasH180 hears a loud bbbbuuuuuuzzzzBBBBUUUUUUZZZZZ POP! 11:56 <@CRasH180> lol 11:56 <@CRasH180> "Did you see what just happened to him?!" 11:56 <@Evilpig> http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/12/comcast-admits-data-cap-meter-blunder-charges-wrong-customer-for-overage/ 11:56 < PigBot> Title: Comcast customer discovers huge mistake in company’s data cap meter | Ars Technica (at arstechnica.com) http://tinyurl.com/zupdy4a 11:56 <@CRasH180> OMG 11:57 < Synx|hm> Evilpig: ya thats not the only case iirc of that happening 11:57 < Synx|hm> i know there have been times where comcast's usage meter in no way matched my pfsense counters (including dropped traffic) 11:59 < Synx|hm> id like to know what DSCP marking they attach to other customers wifi traffic (when using the comcast wifi gateway any comcast customer can use your connection, but its not counted in your BW cap they claim) if its DSCP or something simple we could easily put that in our own traffic lol 11:59 <@Evilpig> oh I'm sure it isn't 12:00 * eryc_ ping floods Synx|hm 12:00 * eryc_ exceeds Synx|hm bw cap and shuts off his interwebs 12:00 < Synx|hm> ha 12:01 < Synx|hm> a new age of DOS 12:01 < Synx|hm> DOS via exploding data caps and bank accounts 12:01 < Synx|hm> surely one cant be responsible to pay for overage if they've been the victim of DOS? 12:02 <@Evilpig> not regulated, they can charge whatever they want 12:02 <@Evilpig> it'd be a dick move, funny... but a dick move 12:03 < Synx|hm> indeed 12:03 < Synx|hm> hey pig can you do me a solid and login to your business account, do they show your modem MAC and S/N? 12:03 < Synx|hm> my SN is listed as the MAC im wondering if thats why they are not tracking my BW usage 12:04 <@Evilpig> yeah I can get it. 12:04 <@Evilpig> sec 12:04 < Synx|hm> thanks kind sir 12:04 <@Evilpig> like you want to know on the modem or the customer portal? 12:04 < Synx|hm> on the customer portal does it correctly show both SN and MAC of your modem 12:05 < Synx|hm> on my portal it lists my SN as identical to my MAC 12:05 < Synx|hm> which is not correct 12:05 <@Evilpig> grrr "A service outage for Internet has been reported in your area. We expect this to be resolved by 12/30/2015 at 4:25:47 PM." 12:05 < Synx|hm> ha 12:06 <@Evilpig> I don't see my modem details in their portal 12:06 < Synx|hm> k, i assume the business portal is completely different 12:11 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-98-240-43-56.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 12:11 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o RangerZ] by ChanServ 12:12 <@Evilpig> I don't see this article lasting online for too long, if it's credible. http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2015/12/23/comcasts-ceo-wants-the-end-of-unlimited-data.aspx?source=eogyholnk0000001&utm_source=yahoo&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=article 12:12 < PigBot> Title: Comcast's CEO Wants the End of Unlimited Data -- The Motley Fool (at www.fool.com) http://tinyurl.com/hxeljjb 12:13 <@CRasH180> Up your nose with a rubber hose 12:16 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@98.240.43.56] has joined #se2600 12:18 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-98-240-43-56.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:28 < _NSAKEY> Evilpig: Are you saying you think it will get memory holed, or that the CEO will back down? 12:31 -!- opticron [~opticron@75.76.201.152] has joined #se2600 12:31 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o opticron] by ChanServ 12:35 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-98-240-43-56.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 12:35 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o RangerZ] by ChanServ 12:37 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@98.240.43.56] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:43 < _NSAKEY> brimstone: Did anyone at congress mention anything about Camover? 12:43 <@Evilpig> _NSAKEY: if a large news source was to pick it up, which they won't since comcast owns a stake in most of them, he'd say it was a misunderstanding 12:43 <@Evilpig> I think they'll just try to disappear it 12:48 < _NSAKEY> That wouldn't be surprising. We're getting closer and closer to the kind of society Gibson wrote about in the 80s, in terms of how companies behave. 12:51 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-98-240-43-56.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 12:52 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-98-240-43-56.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 12:52 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o RangerZ] by ChanServ 13:13 <@dasunt> Heh, reminds me of a facebook discussion I'm in, where someone doxxed a racist bigot and got them fired. 13:13 <@dasunt> I just mentioned that if a company can fire someone for being a bigot, they can fire them for liberal beliefs as well. 13:14 <@dasunt> Judging by the responses, people are focusing more on this guy being a bigot, and less on the repercussions of companies firing you for unpopular speech done on your free time. 13:16 < _NSAKEY> http://blog.docker.com/2015/12/ian-murdock/ 13:16 < PigBot> Title: In Memoriam: Ian Murdock | Docker Blog (at blog.docker.com) http://tinyurl.com/pya3y9k 13:17 <@oddball> dasunt: Don't worry, they'll scream and gnash their teeth over a company firing folks for being liberal. There will be screams of free speech. 13:17 <@oddball> Remember: there's a lot of folks out there that are under the belief that free speech only applies to their side. 13:20 <@dasunt> _NSAKEY: Did he commit suicide? 13:20 <@Evilpig> my speech is protected, yours... is as long as it doesn't offend me 13:21 < _NSAKEY> dasunt: Apparently so. 13:22 < _NSAKEY> Here's a text scrape of the tweets from before he deactivated: http://pastebin.com/yk8bgru5 13:22 < PigBot> Title: Ian Murdock Tweets - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com) http://tinyurl.com/zjqth9f 13:24 <@dasunt> _NSAKEY: WTF happened? 13:24 < _NSAKEY> dasunt: Nobody seems to know for sure. 13:24 < _NSAKEY> He did those tweets, deleted his account, and now he's dead. 13:26 <@dasunt> So some interaction with the police, then...? 13:27 <@dasunt> Sounds like he was arrested, but I don't know which city Ian Murdock was even living in. 13:56 -!- trickshotjohnny [~trickshot@unaffiliated/trickshotjohnny] has quit [Quit: Here's Johnny!] 14:04 -!- trickshotjohnny [~trickshot@unaffiliated/trickshotjohnny] has joined #se2600 14:12 <@brimstone> arrested and worse 14:12 <@brimstone> it seems 14:34 <@dasunt> It sounds suspicious. But I could think of other interpretations... 14:39 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@c-98-240-43-56.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 14:41 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@c-98-240-43-56.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:44 -!- RangerZ [~rangerz@98.240.43.56] has joined #se2600 14:44 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o RangerZ] by ChanServ 14:46 -!- RangerZ1 [~rangerz@c-98-240-43-56.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:40 <@Evilpig> https://twitter.com/AnthonyCumia/status/682090801434914816 15:40 < PigBot> Title: Anthony Cumia on Twitter: "He’s evolved into a biped just to screw with my lights. https://t.co/Fg1l0uq0mM" (at twitter.com) http://tinyurl.com/z3vv5nm 15:40 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: ^ 15:40 <@Evilpig> you'll appreciate that 15:43 -!- phy1729 [~phy1729@unaffiliated/phy1729] has quit [Changing host] 15:43 -!- phy1729 [~phy1729@freenode/staff/phy1729] has joined #se2600 15:53 -!- RangerZ1 [~Mike@c-98-240-43-56.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 15:55 -!- cyberanger [~cyberange@swissknife/adak/infocop411] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:56 < RangerZ1> http://www.people.com/article/bill-cosby-new-details-alleged-sexual-assault-revealed-complaint because this was a topic of discussion 15:56 < PigBot> Title: Bill Cosby: New Details of Alleged Sexual Assault Revealed in Complaint : People.com (at www.people.com) http://tinyurl.com/jp5p8ns 15:56 < RangerZ1> only took 50+ accusers and one settling out of court to get enough evidence 15:57 < RangerZ1> though I like how he has to have _two_ people help carry him 15:58 < RangerZ1> "ohh look at how weak and frail I am" 15:58 -!- cyberanger [~cyberange@swissknife/adak/infocop411] has joined #se2600 15:59 -!- CRasH180 [~Adium@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has left #se2600 [] 16:03 -!- northrup [northrup@link.8bitwizard.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:04 < RangerZ1> http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/30/politics/donald-trump-katrina-pierson-bullet-necklace/ 16:04 < PigBot> Title: Trump spokeswoman accessorizes with bullet necklace - CNNPolitics.com (at www.cnn.com) http://tinyurl.com/pkolftv 16:04 < RangerZ1> they know _exactly_ what they are doing, they are actually trying to win the primaries now 16:04 -!- northrup [northrup@link.8bitwizard.net] has joined #se2600 16:04 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o northrup] by ChanServ 16:20 < aestetix> penis 16:28 <@brimstone> aestetix: i didn't find you amungst the 15k people at 32c3 16:28 < aestetix> brimstone: are you still in germany? 16:29 <@brimstone> are you in berlin tomorrow night? 16:29 <@brimstone> yup 16:29 < aestetix> I am in berlin now :p 16:29 <@brimstone> oh, then you left a few hours ago 16:29 -!- northrup [northrup@link.8bitwizard.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:29 < aestetix> yep 16:29 < aestetix> brimstone: how long are you in berlin? 16:30 <@brimstone> til 1/5 16:30 < aestetix> nice 16:30 < aestetix> I'm having a get together on the 1st, you should come 16:30 <@brimstone> yeah, outside the US for 31 days 16:30 < aestetix> it's sort of a sylvester hangover party :p 16:30 <@brimstone> when, where? 16:30 < aestetix> tomorrow evening, at my place 16:30 <@brimstone> who's sylvester? 16:30 <@brimstone> your roommate? 16:31 < aestetix> sylvester is what germans call new years :p 16:31 <@brimstone> oh, silvester 16:31 < aestetix> er wait 16:31 < aestetix> not tomorrow evening 16:31 < aestetix> the evening of the first 16:31 < aestetix> becasue fuck hosting a party on NYE 16:31 <@brimstone> right 16:31 < aestetix> er yeah silvester 16:31 < aestetix> enjoy congress? 16:31 <@brimstone> totally 16:32 < aestetix> I spent 6-8 hours trying to fix the fucking wiki :/ 16:32 -!- northrup [~northrup@link.8bitwizard.net] has joined #se2600 16:32 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o northrup] by ChanServ 16:32 <@brimstone> gross 16:32 < aestetix> you do not even wanna know how messed up the NOC was :p 16:32 < aestetix> I think next year I might just take the wiki over :p 16:32 <@brimstone> who ran 32c3-wiki.top? 16:32 < aestetix> oh that was that mirror, right? 16:32 < aestetix> idk. 16:32 <@brimstone> yeah 16:32 <@brimstone> ok 16:33 < aestetix> but yeah now you see why I keep telling everyone to come to germany 16:33 <@brimstone> how many people attend hope? 16:33 < aestetix> HOPE? 2-3 thousand 16:34 * aestetix yawns 16:34 < aestetix> so fucking tired 16:34 < aestetix> brimstone: have you been to germany before? 16:35 <@brimstone> yeah, a few times 16:35 <@brimstone> went to ccc in 2010 16:35 < aestetix> oh cool 16:35 < aestetix> lol I was there that year I think 16:36 <@brimstone> then came back to a huge snow storm in the south 16:40 < aestetix> brimstone: btw are you allergic to cats? 16:40 <@brimstone> very 16:41 < aestetix> ok 16:46 <@dasunt> HP is doing its damndest to make me hate it. 16:46 <@RangerZ> could be worse 16:46 <@RangerZ> it could be gateway 16:46 <@dasunt> I've submitted a laptop for service because it has water damage - USB keeps conking out, laptop keeps randomly rebooting. 16:47 <@dasunt> Which I put in the HP ticket. 16:47 <@dasunt> HP emails me back, asking for a brief description of the problem. 16:47 <@dasunt> This isn't hidden either, HP's form asks for the problem's description. 16:47 < aestetix> RangerZ: could be Dell 16:48 * dasunt is tempted to update the description: "Problem: HP can't find it's ass, even using both hands" 16:48 <@brimstone> do it 16:49 * dasunt stays professional. 16:50 * dasunt tries to update the description, and instead watches HP's website crash. 16:51 <@dasunt> And for the second laptop I've attempted to get service for. 16:51 <@dasunt> "I understand that your unit is having ADP. In order to set up a service please give us a brief issue description. It is mandatory for us to document the issue description for ADP cases. 16:51 <@dasunt> Here's the fucking ticket I've submitted: " 16:52 <@dasunt> Problem description: Laptop has had water damage, even after drying out for a week, LCD is discolored." 16:53 <@dasunt> WTF? 16:53 <@Evilpig> for me... if I got that ticket. i'd mock you and tell you that laptops and pools don't mix, buy a new one asshole that isn't a warranty problem it's a stupid user problem 16:53 <@dasunt> Evilpig: We do have accident coverage on our HP service plan. 16:54 <@RangerZ> they bought it because of dasunt 16:54 <@dasunt> I believe spilling water on your laptop is the definition of an accident. Admittedly, I'm not HP. 16:54 <@Evilpig> swimming with a laptop isn't an accident. it's just dumb 16:54 <@Evilpig> just ask NotLarry how many laptops he's taken in the bathtub 16:54 <@dasunt> I kind of want the support person to take a toaster into the bath tub. 16:55 < aestetix> hey Evilpig can I email you a list of question to ask Corydon at the next 2600 meeting? 16:55 <@Evilpig> you can, but I probably won't 16:56 < aestetix> lol 16:56 < aestetix> that means there is a chance 16:56 <@brimstone> i think PN should adopt the angel concept from c3 16:56 < aestetix> in that case maybe I should just paste them in here 16:57 <@brimstone> and the hearlds 16:57 <@brimstone> and END THE TALKS ON TIME 16:57 < _NSAKEY> It means he will probably re-word the questions to make you look like an even bigger idiot, assuming he asks them at all. 16:57 < _NSAKEY> brimstone: Explain angels and heralds. 16:57 < _NSAKEY> Except for like, one guy, I think we ended everything on schedule this year. 16:58 <@brimstone> i thought things started slipping near the end 16:58 < _NSAKEY> (We're not counting Dagmar.) 16:58 <@brimstone> angels are just the volunteers 16:58 < _NSAKEY> We tried to give people who we knew might go over the hour before the dinner break. 16:58 <@brimstone> heralds just intro the speaker, then MC the Q&A at the end 17:00 < _NSAKEY> I thought the heralads were generally awesome. 17:00 < _NSAKEY> *heralds 17:00 <@brimstone> yup 17:00 < _NSAKEY> One thing I'd like to know is what gear they used for transcoding the videos so that they could get released so rapidly. 17:00 <@brimstone> this was mentioned! 17:00 * brimstone looks for a link 17:01 < _NSAKEY> I saw a tweet saying that they had two pieces of gear, one for transcoding on the fly and one for the streams. 17:01 <@brimstone> https://c3voc.de/wiki/docu:equipment 17:01 < PigBot> Title: Hardware [CCC VOC] (at c3voc.de) http://tinyurl.com/o8eglc6 17:02 <@brimstone> that looks outdated though 17:02 <@brimstone> maybe nucs now? 17:02 < _NSAKEY> I don't know, but if it's something we can replicate on some of ben's discarded work PCs... That would be awesome. 17:03 < _NSAKEY> Not ideal, but a good step toward the right direction of streamlining things. 17:03 <@brimstone> ben just scales out, not up 17:03 <@brimstone> :) 17:04 <@RangerZ> brimstone: ben's daughters are getting to be teenagers soon, so he'll just be scaling gray 17:04 <@brimstone> ha 17:05 <@Evilpig> my apartment office is not gonna be happy with me next week 17:05 < _NSAKEY> Damn. I just looked at the prices for some of this year. 17:06 <@Evilpig> fedex tracking info... Weight:58.00 lb. 17:06 <@Evilpig> https://www.fedex.com/apps/fedextrack/?action=track&tracknumbers=782073876722 17:06 < PigBot> Title: Track your package or shipment with FedEx Tracking (at www.fedex.com) http://tinyurl.com/jz4la7m 17:16 -!- Shadow404 [~shadow404@wilpig.org] has joined #se2600 17:16 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Shadow404] by ChanServ 17:26 < RangerZ1> Evilpig: did you buy that 2u server? 17:27 < RangerZ1> Evilpig: thats nothing... I got a washer/dryer delivered from amazon, UPS guy was _not_ amused 17:35 <@Evilpig> I did 17:43 <@brimstone> friend of mine had a gun safe delivered to his second floor appartment by a couple of UPS guys 17:46 < RangerZ1> good thing the Fire Marshall didn't know that 17:46 < RangerZ1> lol 17:47 < RangerZ1> so what are good NAS HDDs now a days? 17:47 < RangerZ1> I'm seeing WD's REDs are getting 'meh' ratings on newegg 17:48 <@brimstone> what's their enterprise drive, the reds or blacks? 17:48 <@brimstone> not the green 17:48 <@brimstone> never the greens 17:48 < RangerZ1> red is their 'nas' drive 17:48 <@brimstone> so, get blacks 17:49 < RangerZ1> [WD Black hard drives are designed for desktop PC and power users who demand performance.] 17:50 <@brimstone> that doesn't sound good 17:52 <@Dagmar> Okay so what the fuck is this shit with Ian Murdock and the police? 17:53 <@brimstone> and that guy 17:53 <@Dagmar> No, seriously 17:53 <@Dagmar> http://web.archive.org/web/20151229122811/https:/twitter.com/imurdock 17:54 < PigBot> Title: Ian Murdock (@imurdock) | Twitter (at web.archive.org) http://tinyurl.com/h3uj9tq 17:54 <@brimstone> yes 17:54 <@Dagmar> ...and now he turns up _dead_? 17:54 < RangerZ1> obviously he committed suicide 17:55 <@brimstone> https://twitter.com/jackstormwriter 17:55 < PigBot> Title: Tweets with replies by Jay Daniels (@jackstormwriter) | Twitter (at twitter.com) http://tinyurl.com/goqoz9g 17:55 < RangerZ1> our wonderful police would never result in someone dying 17:55 <@brimstone> that guy 17:55 <@Dagmar> That twitter account is making it look more like he was murdered b the poice 17:55 <@Dagmar> ...and I mean murdered like "stalked and murdered" not just a random fatal beating 17:55 < RangerZ1> its private 17:55 < RangerZ1> so no clue what it says 18:03 <@Dagmar> Probably an unrelated red herring 18:03 -!- Catonic [~catonic@adsl-98-71-68-196.bhm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:05 <@Dagmar> I take it you've seen teh wayback machine posts 18:07 < RangerZ1> Comcast email... [We've got 9x more free TV shows and movies with XFINITY On Demand™. ] 18:08 < RangerZ1> [Our in-home WiFi is 2xfaster than Google Fiber. ] [With XFINITY you can enjoy your DVR recordings on the go. Google Fiber? Nope.] 18:10 < RangerZ1> thats just amusing 18:14 <@Dagmar> Isn't there a bureau who can take action against advertisements that are just plain lies? 18:14 <@Dagmar> Wifi that's 2x faster than fiber? No. 18:14 < RangerZ1> 'in home wifi' 18:15 < RangerZ1> for transferring files within the network... lol 18:18 <@Dagmar> I get the feeling that there may be some financially motivation behind this silence about what actually happened with Murdock 18:18 <@Dagmar> er financial 18:19 <@Dagmar> I've managed to track down verificationt that he was arrested 18:24 < RangerZ1> so brimstone I got a question about felonies 18:24 < RangerZ1> figured you'd be the person to ask 18:24 * RangerZ1 just randomly picked someone who talked lately 18:24 < RangerZ1> Felony of the 1st Degree (is that the highest or lowest) level felony ? 18:26 < RangerZ1> so apparently it depends on the state 18:27 < RangerZ1> [Not more than 20 years in prison and up to $25,000 in fines.] since Cosby is being tried in PA 18:33 <@Dagmar> 1st/2nd/3rd degree relates to mindset, which is not quite the same thing as "severity" 18:41 <@Dagmar> Tsutsukakushi: Nope 18:41 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: Yeah, there hasn't been a lot that's come out about it. 18:42 < _NSAKEY> Just the tweets, then the docker blog post, and later one on Debian's website. 18:43 <@Dagmar> The only thing I've seen outside of tweets have been simple statements of his death 18:43 <@Dagmar> No details or explanations of any kidn 18:43 < _NSAKEY> Yeah, that's all there's been. 18:43 < _NSAKEY> It was so fresh when I linked it that Wikipedia still said he was alive. 18:46 <@Dagmar> The read-through makes it look like some cop was watching, realized "Hey this guy has clout" and figured they'd better silence him before he could spill details 18:53 < _NSAKEY> I wonder if anyone in silly valley will want to know badly enough to get the police report. 18:53 < _NSAKEY> So here's a question for the channel. 18:54 < _NSAKEY> I got a new phone. It's much nicer than the terrorist/drug dealer special I was using previously. 18:54 < _NSAKEY> I do NOT want to root it, mainly because of the warranty, and to a lesser extent because of OTA updates. 18:54 < _NSAKEY> ... But I need adblocking in my life. 18:55 < _NSAKEY> I went as far as writing a shell script that takes the AdAway lists plus some others, combines them, then converts the file to be used in Unbound. 18:56 < _NSAKEY> It (mostly) works, but some ads still slip through. 18:57 < _NSAKEY> Anyway, the question is: What am I doing wrong to not have 100% ad blockage? 18:57 <@Dagmar> Thinking that blocking the damn ads will be easy 18:57 <@Dagmar> Install Chrome. Use it instead of "browser". 18:57 < _NSAKEY> AdAway worked perfectly for my needs on the old phone, and the new method uses the lists that AdAway sources, plus some others. 18:57 < _NSAKEY> Um, I do use Chrome. 18:58 <@Dagmar> ...then install Adblock from the Chrome Web Store 18:58 <@Dagmar> It should work with Chrome on your phone 18:58 <@Evilpig> just don't browse the web on your phone. BOOM! no ads 18:58 < _NSAKEY> Does the youtube app do proxy settings? 18:58 < _NSAKEY> I found that Firefox on Android has uBlock Origin, but Chrome doesn't. 18:59 < _NSAKEY> The other thing is that, as I recall, ABP on Android requires a proxy on the connection settings. 18:59 <@Dagmar> Everything that does 'http' should follow the phone's policy on proxies 18:59 < _NSAKEY> I couldn't get that working reliably on the data plan, without breaking data access. 19:00 <@Dagmar> There's nothing on the ABP page about that 19:02 < _NSAKEY> The YouTube app doesn't seem to want to respect anything I throw at it. 19:03 <@Evilpig> did you try yelling at it? "respect my authoriti!" 19:03 < _NSAKEY> No, but I did write a shell script to generate both a hosts file and an unbound local blocking list just because I hate the internet advertising industry that much. 19:04 < _NSAKEY> That brings up another question, which I can't really answer because I don't have IPv6, so I can't really test without messing with ssh tunneling and proxy settings. 19:04 < _NSAKEY> With DNS blocking, do I even have to redirect AAAA records to 0.0.0.0 if I'm already redirecting A records? 19:05 < _NSAKEY> I wrote this script in such a way that it makes lists for both, plus a combined list. 19:05 < _NSAKEY> It's almost certainly overkill, but feedback is appreciated. 19:09 < _NSAKEY> Hmm, it looks like the ABP proxy doesn't want to die on the data plan now. 19:09 < _NSAKEY> This is what I get for only working on this shit when I can't sleep. 19:15 < RangerZ1> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rbGFZAQIEs 19:15 < PigBot> Title: Gamer Keeps System on For 20 Years to Keep Saved Game - IGN News - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/gmrj4qj 19:16 < RangerZ1> 180,000 hours + 19:16 < RangerZ1> at this point I'm thinking Nintendo should go into space-craft design 19:17 < _NSAKEY> I agree 100% about the power. I've had a bunch of brownouts here recently. 19:17 < _NSAKEY> It's unusual for NES in this area. 19:18 < _NSAKEY> Anyway, that guy should suck it up and replay the game with a proper emulator, and save all he wants. 19:20 < _NSAKEY> He might even find the experience of replaying the game rewarding. 19:45 < RangerZ1> http://store.steampowered.com/app/384690/ 19:45 < PigBot> Title: Save 20% on UmiharaKawase on Steam (at store.steampowered.com) http://tinyurl.com/olol9j3 20:03 < RangerZ1> Daniel Craig was a storm trooper in star wars (uncredited) 20:09 -!- Catonic [~catonic@adsl-98-71-67-101.bhm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 20:09 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Catonic] by ChanServ 20:31 -!- sasquatc3 [~sasquatc4@2601:282:702:b422:719a:9dd4:cb94:79d9] has joined #se2600 20:31 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sasquatc3] by ChanServ 20:34 -!- sasquatc4 [~sasquatc4@2601:282:702:b422:7437:9591:6e20:5c46] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:20 <@oddball> RangerZ1: And had a speaking role 21:20 <@oddball> Would say more, but spoilers 21:22 < RangerZ1> oddball: Grim Fandango Remastered, PS4, PS Vita free with PS+ next month ) 1 of 6 free games 21:22 < RangerZ1> you really should get a PS TV (wait, you have a PS3 right? 21:25 < RangerZ1> b/c you can just bank these monthly games 21:25 <@oddball> gotcha 21:25 <@oddball> Yeah, I've got a PS3 21:27 < RangerZ1> I just go to https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-us/ once a month an "buy" for 0.00$ all the games they give each month for every console 21:27 < PigBot> RangerZ1: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 20480 bytes. 21:28 < RangerZ1> and then just play whatever I want later 21:51 <@oddball> But PS+ costs a subcription fee, right? 22:15 < RangerZ1> 50$/yr 22:16 < RangerZ1> you get more than 50$ of games each month, so even if only like 1, its worth it 22:16 < RangerZ1> found reenactment of dagmar's kittens https://i.imgur.com/UOgLNBw.gifv 22:21 <@Dagmar> That's not far from the truth, actually 22:21 <@Dagmar> Mortie really does try her damnedest to get away when i'm trying to take her outside. 22:22 <@Dagmar> She's always like, "Nooooo! I'm an indoor cat... INDOOR CAT!!" 22:23 <@Dagmar> I can completely understand what that woman is going through 22:23 <@Mirage> Anne got caught up in the lights on the tree earlier and almost toppled it trying to get free. 22:24 <@Mirage> It was quite humorous 22:24 < RangerZ1> Synx|hm: https://imgur.com/gallery/7C2GfIF 22:24 < PigBot> Title: Now with 9000x more heart breaking. - GIF on Imgur (at imgur.com) http://tinyurl.com/nul59ds 22:28 < RangerZ1> so does it not feel like the holidays/new years to others? (I think the temps are what is doing it to me) 22:35 <@Dagmar> Feels like fuckin' winter outside now 22:37 < RangerZ1> ehh 22:37 < RangerZ1> its 45 out 22:38 < RangerZ1> this is still spring/fall weather 22:39 < RangerZ1> http://videowall.accuweather.com/detail/videos/trending-now/video/4680110155001/thousands-of-homes-threatened-by-missouri-floodwaters?autoStart=true&utm_source=accuweather&utm_medium=accuweather&utm_campaign=awx_videowal_lin 22:39 < PigBot> Title: Thousands of homes threatened by Missouri floodwaters - Trending Now - AccuWeather VideosAccuWeather Videos (at videowall.accuweather.com) http://tinyurl.com/h8awbmy 22:39 < RangerZ1> see "May 2010" type weather ;) lol 22:43 < RangerZ1> http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/fbi-offers-5000-reward-bacon-found-vegas-mosque-36022618 22:43 < PigBot> Title: FBI Offers $5,000 Reward After Bacon Found at Vegas Mosque - ABC News (at abcnews.go.com) http://tinyurl.com/jakojjm 22:43 < RangerZ1> this article was MUCH more interesting in google news where the last word you could read was 'Vegas M' 22:47 < RangerZ1> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/george-lucas-quips-he-sold-851545 22:47 < PigBot> Title: George Lucas Quips He Sold Star Wars to "White Slavers"; Criticizes "Retro" Tone of New Film - Hollywood Reporter (at www.hollywoodreporter.com) http://tinyurl.com/jn4ktmg 22:47 < RangerZ1> ok... 'white slavers'... huh? 22:47 < RangerZ1> I know AI is getting better, but R2 and BB8 are still property.... oh wait... 22:47 < RangerZ1> hehe 22:48 < RangerZ1> do they count as 3/5ths citizen now? 22:48 < _NSAKEY> Isn't there some sort of rule of thumb that the less involved George Lucas is in a project his name is attached to, the better it is? 22:49 < RangerZ1> yeah, but I -literally- don't get the 'white slavers' comment 22:50 < _NSAKEY> That might explain why I liked the Indiana Jones movies more. 22:51 < RangerZ1> He fucking built tatooine in Tunesia and the 'set' buildings he built are _still_ used by locals as houses 22:51 <@Dagmar> He's referring to how they treat people as property 22:51 < RangerZ1> (well when ISIS isn't using it as a gas depot) 22:51 < RangerZ1> his ass got paid 4BLN 22:51 < RangerZ1> I'll be property of Disney for that much 22:52 < RangerZ1> lol 22:52 < _NSAKEY> Sounds like he's having seller's remorse. 22:53 <@Dagmar> WEll, at least he knows not to have asked for a portion of the 22:53 <@Dagmar> "profits" 22:54 < RangerZ1> only fucking Obiwan was smart enough to do that 22:55 < RangerZ1> I think he made 7.5% of all figures/collectibles/etc from the entire star-wars franchise, not just his own figures 22:55 < RangerZ1> or something absurd like that 22:55 < _NSAKEY> I re-watched the first Star Wars last week just to see if I could get into it. That guy and Harrison Ford were the only stand-outs. 22:55 <@Dagmar> You'll note they were pretty quick to kill him for thta 22:56 <@Dagmar> Darth Vader didn't make a thing because apparently Star Wars never turned a profit 22:56 < _NSAKEY> (I still don't like Star Wars. Schedule my therapy session, Evilpig.) 22:56 < RangerZ1> same Hollywood accounting as how the first harry potter film "never made a profit" 22:57 < _NSAKEY> They do it with all the movies. 22:57 < RangerZ1> but when Warner Bros. owns a marketing company, and pours every penny they earn into 'more marketing' 22:57 < _NSAKEY> They own the distribution houses, but "pay" to have the movies distributed, for one. 22:57 < RangerZ1> same with marketing 22:57 < _NSAKEY> Yup. 22:57 < RangerZ1> and 'research' 22:58 < RangerZ1> etc 22:58 < _NSAKEY> Hollywood's probably the only industry that figured out how to take tax havens to a micro scale, for the purpose of screwing over the little guys with contracts. 22:59 < _NSAKEY> The entire reason Hollywood is in California is because the studios fled there to use cameras without having to deal with a bunch of patent enforcement by Thomas Edison. 23:03 < RangerZ1> Fuck him 23:03 < RangerZ1> ohh sorry 23:03 < RangerZ1> conditioned response 23:06 < _NSAKEY> Heh. 23:39 < RangerZ1> anyone got _any_ idea wtf this means [key_load_public: invalid format 23:39 < RangerZ1> PTY allocation request failed on channel 0] 23:39 < RangerZ1> I just made some new ssh keys for gitlab and I'm getting that error 23:39 < RangerZ1> but git over ssh works (just -after- that error) --- Log closed Thu Dec 31 00:00:18 2015