--- Log opened Mon Dec 28 00:00:10 2015 00:14 <@Dagmar> Hmm... I can afford a Cobra MKIV. 00:14 <@Dagmar> Well, if this nearby land base doesn't have a rescue mission available, someone's about to get chucked out an airlock. 01:42 -!- cyberanger [~cyberange@swissknife/adak/infocop411] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:01 -!- cyberanger [~cyberange@swissknife/adak/infocop411] has joined #se2600 03:14 -!- Catonic [~catonic@adsl-98-71-69-15.bhm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:09 -!- Catonic [~catonic@adsl-98-71-69-15.bhm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 04:09 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Catonic] by ChanServ 05:23 -!- phy1729 [~phy1729@unaffiliated/phy1729] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:43 -!- phy1729 [~phy1729@unaffiliated/phy1729] has joined #se2600 07:37 -!- CRasH180 [~Adium@199.91.139.248] has joined #se2600 07:37 -!- CRasH180 [~Adium@199.91.139.248] has quit [Changing host] 07:37 -!- CRasH180 [~Adium@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 07:37 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 08:17 -!- CRasH180 [~Adium@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:40 <@Dagmar> WRT that remaining escape pod... dude got lucky 09:01 -!- CRasH180 [~Adium@199.91.139.248] has joined #se2600 09:01 -!- CRasH180 [~Adium@199.91.139.248] has quit [Changing host] 09:01 -!- CRasH180 [~Adium@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has joined #se2600 09:01 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o CRasH180] by ChanServ 09:33 -!- RangerZ1 [~Mike@c-98-240-43-56.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:34 -!- NexusL [~mike@h38.77.188.173.static.ip.windstream.net] has joined #se2600 09:34 -!- NexusL [~mike@h38.77.188.173.static.ip.windstream.net] has quit [Client Quit] 09:57 -!- crashcartpro [uid29931@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ubedtoopsuesgxbl] has joined #se2600 10:51 -!- RangerZ [~Mike@DHCP-129-59-122-52.n1.vanderbilt.edu] has joined #se2600 10:51 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o RangerZ] by ChanServ 11:21 <@CRasH180> Wow, this is the most silence I have ever seen in this room in one day 11:22 <@Dagmar> Okay. *whew* 11:22 <@Dagmar> The moving guys came early, but all the "big stuff" is now in the other unit 11:24 < _NSAKEY> https://twitter.com/PogoWasRight/status/681446053636403201 11:28 <@Dagmar> This is probably like that twitter shit 11:28 <@Dagmar> Leave it out in the open so that just anyone could access it, and you can deny having anything to do with it 11:30 <@Dagmar> ...and where can we get this data 11:32 <@Dagmar> xen-rasmus: First off, no space between #! and /bin/bash 11:43 < dfused> ur mom. 11:53 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 11:53 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 12:08 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: I want to know the same. 12:12 <@RangerZ> Dagmar: I bet you are right 12:12 <@RangerZ> probably a dead drop that got 'found out' 12:13 <@Dagmar> Yeah 'cuz that shit should never have been out in the open, and it's enough data that I have a hard time believing it was an "accidental" copy 12:13 <@Dagmar> 191 million records don't just "accidentally" copy themselves 12:21 < _NSAKEY> I also think that figure of $270k for the voter reg lists for all the states is interesting. 12:21 < _NSAKEY> It costs substantially less to get them all. 12:21 < _NSAKEY> I haven't bothered totaling it up yet, but it has to be a lot less. 12:24 < _NSAKEY> The ones I could find a flat price on are under $40k. 12:24 < _NSAKEY> Places like Missouri don't even maintain a list at the state level. 12:40 <@RangerZ> _NSAKEY: you are also forgetting that these lists have TONS of special laws surrounding them 12:41 <@RangerZ> churches and "charities" can use these lists and call them all with computer-dialers 12:41 <@RangerZ> where telemarketers have to have people dial the phones themselves 12:41 <@RangerZ> (which almost 3x the cost of calling) 12:41 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: I'm not forgetting anything. 12:42 < _NSAKEY> https://openrecords.guru/wiki/index.php?title=Statewide_Voter_Registration_Lists 12:42 < _NSAKEY> I spent some time on that table. 12:42 <@RangerZ> you're forgetting to ask pretty bartenders for their numbers 12:42 <@RangerZ> that much I KNOW 12:42 <@RangerZ> lol 12:42 < dfused> burn 12:43 < _NSAKEY> That's not a bad problem to have, really. 12:48 -!- opticron [~opticron@75.76.201.152] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:51 <@Dagmar> THe bartender is probably the least likely girl in the place to be an alcoholic 12:51 <@Dagmar> That's the key thing to remember about picking up girls in bars 12:52 < dfused> I dont think I should be listening to you about picking up girls in bars. 12:54 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: Given the fact that I don't drink, that's not a bad thing. 13:01 <@Dagmar> dfused: Unless you like dating alcoholics, it's a good thing to keep in mind 13:02 <@Dagmar> Girls that are hanging out in bars unattached have a very high chance of being there because they're alcoholics 13:39 -!- Catonic [~catonic@adsl-98-71-69-15.bhm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:57 <@Dagmar> Ugh. Lesson learned. "Rapid Transit" missions can be very expensive 13:57 <@Dagmar> You can buy the materials they want delivered from nearby spaceports, but it'll get expensive 13:57 <@Dagmar> I should have noticed it was a multi-part job, but the number "243,782" made me lose my head 13:58 <@Dagmar> I spent rougly 70,000 credits buying the stuff, and was just crossing my fingers that there wasn't a fourth phase to it, or I was going to have to give space-handjobs or something for the money 13:59 <@Dagmar> I was down to 26,000 credits before that mission was over 13:59 <@Dagmar> ...but at least now i've got a respectable cargo hold 14:00 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:02 <@sasquatc4> yea i started a multi-part mission and didnt realize it, it was for only like 60k and everything was at outposts that were like 100k+LS away from fsd drop. So while they were easy it took like an hour to do for crap money 14:35 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: The next talk on this stream might be something of interest: https://streaming.media.ccc.de/32c3/hallg/ 14:35 < PigBot> Title: Hall G FullHD Video – 32C3 Streaming (at streaming.media.ccc.de) http://tinyurl.com/nfmpskw 14:35 < _NSAKEY> The talk title is "How hackers grind an MMORPG: by taking it apart!" 14:41 -!- Feltenix [~conrad@107-205-72-249.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:51 -!- Feltenix [~conrad@107-205-72-249.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net] has joined #se2600 14:51 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Feltenix] by ChanServ 15:02 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 15:02 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 15:17 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:21 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 15:21 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 15:32 -!- RangerZ [~Mike@DHCP-129-59-122-52.n1.vanderbilt.edu] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:45 -!- Catonic [~catonic@adsl-98-83-118-27.bhm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 15:45 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Catonic] by ChanServ 15:45 <@Evilpig> lol @ Dagmar giving space handies 15:46 <@Dagmar> I was prepared to be completely screwed over by the quest 15:46 <@Dagmar> I mean, I was doing the quest to _get_ more money 15:46 <@Dagmar> This is a bit of a problem if I actually have to stop in the middle of the thing to _scrounge up more funds_ 16:30 -!- CRasH180 [~Adium@pdpc/supporter/silver/CRasH180] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:34 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: zzz] 17:06 -!- RangerZ [~Mike@c-98-240-43-56.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 17:06 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o RangerZ] by ChanServ 17:44 <@RangerZ> hehe @ pulling from someone random's REPO to link code I wrote for an assignment 17:47 <@Dagmar> Next up on Hax0rTV: Strangers with Repos. 17:52 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 17:52 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 18:00 <@Dagmar> lol the moving guys saw a box of condoms on the floor when we lifted up the bed and were all "Wooooooo" about it 18:01 <@Dagmar> "Note: This box is unopened and is from 2013. Yeah, my love life sucks." 18:02 -!- Catonic [~catonic@adsl-98-83-118-27.bhm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:03 <@RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU_gm3IpkqU ohh ohh ohh 18:03 < PigBot> Title: Sanders Adviser Suggests Data Breach Staffer May Have Been DNC Plant - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/znjcuq5 18:03 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Quit: ...] 18:08 <@Dagmar> They'd better have some shit to back that claim up 18:09 <@Dagmar> They're making a pretty severe jump to assume that what Uretsky did was so awful 18:10 <@Dagmar> ...and from the stuff that he pulled up, I'm finding that hard to believe 18:10 <@Dagmar> ...because _that_ information is actually out there. 18:10 <@Dagmar> It sounds rather like they generated a bar chart. 18:11 < _NSAKEY> I'm not sure why anyone even cares about that, at this point. What I want to know is how they're going to react to the potential fallout of 191 million voter records being exposed to the world. 18:11 <@Dagmar> Yeah that kind of blows everything out of the water 18:11 < _NSAKEY> SANDERS LEAKED THEM ALL TO DIVERT ATTENTION AWAY FROM HIS OWN DATA SCANDAL!!!!11 18:12 < _NSAKEY> 18:14 <@Dagmar> I like how folks have already pretty much identified the firm that data had to have come from 18:14 <@Dagmar> Being that it's a violation of _law_ some subpoenas and warrants should already be in motion 18:15 <@Dagmar> It'll be interesting to see who owns the equipment that data was on 18:15 <@Dagmar> ...because at this point, simply deleting it like was done with that Twitter account, isn't going to help 18:17 <@Dagmar> Anyone still got a link to the article detailing what was accessed?? 18:18 < _NSAKEY> You mean that NationBuilder company? 18:18 <@Dagmar> No the Sanders issue 18:18 <@Dagmar> I read a thing on it a couple of days ago 18:18 <@Dagmar> Someone who was familiar with the system had actually looked at the audit logs and commented on it 18:19 <@Dagmar> It looks like Uretsky just generated a bar chart as documentation 18:24 <@Dagmar> Ah... here we go https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/12/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-data-breach-president-debate/ 18:24 < PigBot> Couldn't snarf url: [Errno 1] _ssl.c:492: error:14077438:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:tlsv1 alert internal error. http://tinyurl.com/hjpn9dr 18:29 <@Dagmar> I'd like to point out that people who are up to some shens typically _don't_ contact the vendor to tell them 18:31 <@Dagmar> Interview with Uretsky http://www.msnbc.com/thomas-roberts/watch/fired-sanders-campaign-staffer-speaks-out-588356675888 18:31 < PigBot> Title: Fired Sanders campaign staffer speaks out | MSNBC (at www.msnbc.com) http://tinyurl.com/zpkyfou 18:32 <@Dagmar> Clearly there are polticians and non-technical managers involved in this speculating about shit they don't understand 18:33 <@Dagmar> Citing an "unnamed staffer" within the org without considering if that person knows which end of the computer goes in their mouth, is kind of irresponsible 18:41 <@RangerZ> ohh I have no idea if it was valid, but yeah, the ENTIRE way these "databases" are managed is a fucking joke 18:41 <@RangerZ> a fucking DB with voting info can't be that fucking big... I'm sure each of us has a spare drive laying around that could store it 18:41 <@RangerZ> why the fuck are they using the same vendor as their competition 18:42 <@RangerZ> fuck... I wouldn't be surprised to find out the GOP is using the same people too 18:42 <@Dagmar> Because the DNC is the actual customer 18:42 <@Dagmar> Both campaigns are considered sub-departments for this arrangemnet 18:43 <@Dagmar> All _hell_ would break loose if the GOP were using hte same company 18:43 <@Dagmar> That ACL lapse would have already loosed an unholy shitstorm 18:43 <@RangerZ> personally I think the sander's campaign should have kept the lawsuit going 18:44 <@Dagmar> You'd be thinking someone did someone else's mom in the pooper by the way they'd be screaming to the press 18:44 <@RangerZ> b/c _obviously_ the DNC is trying to get hilary elected 18:44 <@RangerZ> and the email on _their_ servers aren't at hilary's house 18:44 <@Dagmar> If I have to do a write-in vote for Sanders with an etching pencil, that's what's happening 18:44 <@Dagmar> I don't give a fuck if he's backed by the DNC or not 18:45 <@Dagmar> By the way.... If you think Wilpig kinda broke FO4... check this out 18:45 <@Dagmar> http://kotaku.com/guy-beats-fallout-4-without-killing-anyone-nearly-brea-1749882569 18:45 < PigBot> Dagmar: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 20480 bytes. 18:48 <@RangerZ> nice 18:54 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: I actually saw that earlier. 20:08 -!- Catonic [~catonic@adsl-98-71-68-196.bhm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 20:08 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Catonic] by ChanServ 20:11 <@RangerZ> Evilpig: stop it 20:11 <@RangerZ> http://wkrn.com/2015/12/28/man-jailed-after-allegedly-handcuffing-woman-driving-her-to-vanderbilt/ 20:11 < PigBot> Title: Man accused of handcuffing woman downtown, driving her to Vanderbilt | WKRN News 2 (at wkrn.com) http://tinyurl.com/pegxy94 20:12 <@Evilpig> lol 20:15 <@RangerZ> http://www.ecumenicalnews.com/article/final.fantasy.15.spoilers.news.square.enix.reveals.two.kinds.of.magic.and.important.role.of.female.characters/37033.htm interesting 20:15 < PigBot> Title: 'Final Fantasy 15' spoilers, news: Square Enix reveals two kinds of magic and important role of female characters (at www.ecumenicalnews.com) http://tinyurl.com/jkv5zw8 20:15 <@RangerZ> looks like SE has given up trying to shoehorn a female into the party 20:15 <@RangerZ> which I think is for the better, because making a change like to a story and game mechanics just to pacify some checklist isn't good. 20:28 < _NSAKEY> In other words... Final Fantasy: Dating Sim Edition. 20:30 < _NSAKEY> That was a mini game in disc 1 of Final Fantasy VII, which is being remade... But Square-Enix isn't remaking it themselves. 20:36 <@RangerZ> huh? 20:37 <@RangerZ> yes, SE is remaking FF7 20:38 <@RangerZ> well, they have an outside studio doing the coding, but honestly that is how SE always works (they are mainly a _publishing house_ not a development house) 20:38 <@RangerZ> hell I think SE makes more money from selling manga than it does games 22:21 <@RangerZ> http://qz.com/582409/louis-vuittons-new-top-model-is-a-video-game-star/ 22:21 <@RangerZ> of all the fucking characters... to pick lightning ... 22:23 <@RangerZ> ohh 22:23 <@RangerZ> http://mashable.com/2015/11/07/comcast-data-caps/#ffhoMNK9euqK 22:23 < PigBot> Title: New Comcast plan charges $30 more for the Internet you already get (at mashable.com) http://tinyurl.com/pphvyfj 22:24 <@RangerZ> more reasons to fucking hate comcast 22:24 <@RangerZ> I didn't even SEE this one 22:24 <@RangerZ> apparently they don't want people going through the hassle of signing up for 'business' service anymore 22:24 <@RangerZ> just give them the 30$ fee 22:25 <@oddball> Hell, that's a better set up than what they currently have in Nashville. 22:25 <@oddball> There's no "true unlimited is $30 extra" option. 22:25 <@RangerZ> yeah there is 22:26 <@RangerZ> well, you have to go with business account 22:26 <@RangerZ> I just got quoted it last month actually 22:26 <@RangerZ> it was like 30$ more a month too 22:26 <@oddball> Well, the option is "get a business account, and not get the same bandwidth." 22:26 <@oddball> "and get pressured into signing a contract." 22:27 <@RangerZ> [ 50mbps/10mbps internet speed, $122.90/mo - There is a onetime install fee of $199] 22:28 <@RangerZ> no contract 22:28 <@oddball> Oh, and forgot about the "install fee" that I had to argue with them about. 22:28 <@RangerZ> I'd rather pay the 200$ install fee, than sign a contract 22:28 <@RangerZ> thats what... 1.66 months ? 22:29 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 22:29 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa] by ChanServ 22:29 <@oddball> I finally managed to convince them to wave the install fee... since I had been their client for a few years. 22:30 <@oddball> Oh, and that "business class is never on hold longer than 60 seconds?" Yeah... that's a fucking joke. 22:30 <@oddball> As is the promise that business class customers get better service. 22:30 <@RangerZ> ohh I'm not saying they aren't fucking full of shit 22:31 <@RangerZ> I'm just saying they are now basically letting you pick the 30$ fee to have the 90/12 or w/e the fuck they made it recently 22:31 <@RangerZ> instead of going through the 'lets make it business' BS 22:32 <@klixa> are you talking about comcast? 22:32 <@RangerZ> yeah 22:32 <@klixa> they suck to work for too bte... my bf lasted like 3 days and got annoyed 22:32 <@klixa> they keep their techs on hold for forever 22:32 <@RangerZ> they can DIAF, but their latest 'deal' is funny to me 22:32 <@oddball> Oh, and if you own your own modem, support goes from "ok, let's take a look" to "fuck you." 22:33 <@RangerZ> also... at least there is SOME justice... http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/12/28/affluenza-teen-apprehended-mexico-cnn-reports/78002812/ 22:33 < PigBot> Title: 'Affluenza' Teen apprehended in Mexico, CNN reports (at www.usatoday.com) http://tinyurl.com/hkkfc7a 22:33 <@klixa> time warner, you rarely even have to call in anything, and when you do its quick... with comcast, their equipment always sucks, the tech has to call in multiple times a day, and is on hold foreve 22:33 <@klixa> oddball: thats because they ALWAYS blame the modem...so if you have your own they cant send a tech to replace it for nothong and charge you 22:34 <@klixa> like, there can be zero signal going to the house...but they will blam the modem 22:35 <@oddball> At least when I was a residential customer, they tried to see what they could do from their end. 22:35 <@oddball> (I owned the modem then, too) 22:36 <@klixa> well, my experience is they always blame the equipment 22:36 <@klixa> and i think its because its just something a tech can swap out... its the easiest thing for them 22:39 <@RangerZ> umm 22:39 <@RangerZ> this is fucking funny 22:39 <@RangerZ> 250Mbps, 140 TV channels + phone for 130$/mo 22:39 <@RangerZ> 250Mbps ... with 300 GB cap... thats just fucking silly 22:40 <@oddball> yup 22:40 <@RangerZ> 1.8310546875 GB/s 22:40 <@RangerZ> 109.86328125 GB/hr 22:41 <@RangerZ> 2.730666666666667 Hours to use up your monthly allotment 22:42 <@klixa> RangerZ: im in your state 22:43 <@klixa> i think im actually near where you're from too...im just south of cleavland... i think you are form akron? 22:44 <@RangerZ> just south of Youngstown 22:44 <@RangerZ> but akron is close enough 22:44 <@RangerZ> visit Goodyear World HQ, and the football hall of fame 22:44 <@RangerZ> there... ya seen Akron ;) 22:45 <@klixa> nah, youngstown is on 70 22:45 <@klixa> its not near here 22:45 <@klixa> well im actually in North Royalton 22:46 <@RangerZ> akron is ~1hr west of youngstown 22:47 <@klixa> would you consider them the same area tho? 22:47 <@klixa> i woudlnt, and thats what i meant 22:48 <@klixa> i always end up back in this damn state 22:49 <@RangerZ> Most people actually consider Akron and Younstown pretty close actually 22:50 <@RangerZ> since Columbus is 1.5hr away (to the 'closest' part of it, and 3hrs away to the farther part) 22:50 <@RangerZ> "greater columbus" is like 1/5 of the fucking state... 22:50 <@klixa> well im not saying they arent close...they just arent the same "world" , not to me anyway... 22:51 <@klixa> columbus is what im most familiar with 22:52 <@klixa> northern ohio and southern ohio are very different 22:53 <@RangerZ> yep 22:53 <@RangerZ> but its more "outside of where universities are" and "where universities are" too 22:53 <@RangerZ> cinci is NOTHING like columbus 22:54 <@RangerZ> but its still a bastion of liberalism compared to the counties without state univ. in them 22:54 <@klixa> ive only driven through there 22:54 <@RangerZ> how the fuck else could a former fox news star (and congressman) win governor's seat 22:55 <@klixa> cincinati has a more major city feel to it than anywhere else here tho 22:55 <@RangerZ> cinci has that b/c its fucking tiny land-wise 22:56 <@RangerZ> clev and cbus were able to expand out super easily 22:56 <@klixa> cleaveland is dying 22:56 <@klixa> actual city itself is down to like 200,000 people..and columbus is up to 700,000-ish 22:56 <@klixa> i think when i first came to ohio, those numbers were reversed 22:57 <@klixa> 15+ years ago 22:57 <@RangerZ> nah, not 'that' much, but yes, the trend is that way 22:57 <@RangerZ> but 'clev' #s are misleading 22:57 <@RangerZ> because people are moving to the areas outside the 'city proper' 22:57 <@klixa> yeah, the urban sprawl is much bigger than colmubs 22:58 <@RangerZ> and those municipalities turned themselves into 'cities' quickly to fight off being eaten up by clev 22:58 <@klixa> but it still says something...i mean cleavland prope used to be 1.6 million at its peak 22:58 <@RangerZ> hell youngstown probably wouldn't be able to count as a 'city' in 2020, will probably be below 50k 22:58 <@RangerZ> and it was up to almost 200k previously 22:58 <@klixa> all i know about youngstown is its "bad" 22:59 <@RangerZ> but ALL the money moved out of youngstown proper too, and into the suburbs 22:59 <@klixa> like, thats all anyone ever says abou tit 22:59 <@oddball> Sounds like Detroit. I'm guessing Clevland is now having problems paying for shit because the tax base just ain't there anymore. 22:59 <@RangerZ> cleveland just needs to tear down parts of the city that are becoming unused 22:59 <@klixa> all i know is that when you drive around, it feels empty 22:59 <@RangerZ> no longer have to maintain the roads/water/lighting/etc out there 23:00 <@oddball> Yup. Sounds like Detroit. 23:00 <@RangerZ> But clev can be smart about it, and do it early... but 'will they' .... who knows 23:00 <@klixa> its not dilipadiated tho, but like there was entire strip mall abandoned 23:00 <@klixa> and a school 23:00 <@klixa> and the buildings were nice 23:00 <@klixa> the strip mall was no older than 20 years... 23:00 <@RangerZ> clev still has MAJOR MONEY flowing through it, but it needs to be smart now 23:01 <@RangerZ> cleveland hospital is as good/better than Vandy medical, its the hospital that foreign kings (jordan and suadi arabia IIRC) come to 23:01 <@klixa> you mean cleavland clinic 23:01 <@RangerZ> yeah 23:02 <@klixa> EVERY hospital here is cleavland clinic now it seems 23:02 <@RangerZ> when you say 'clinic' to people not from there , they think something small 23:02 <@RangerZ> so I say 'hospital' generally down here 23:02 <@klixa> like, i went to mary mount the other noght, and it was part of cleaveland clinic 23:02 <@klixa> RangerZ: nah, cleavland clinic is world famous... i heard of it before i ever stepped foot here 23:03 <@oddball> I guess the good news is that Cleveland didn't manage to systematically drive out all the people with money like Detroit did. 23:03 <@klixa> where im at atm def has money; north royalton, strongsville, etc 23:04 <@klixa> im always near money tho cause people with money are the people my bf does work for 23:04 <@oddball> People with money are good to work for. They can pay the bills you hand them. :p 23:04 <@RangerZ> most people still work i clev. and they still have a night life down at the river, etc. 23:05 <@klixa> my bf is obsessed with the flats 23:05 <@RangerZ> oddball: 'can' and 'do' are unfortunately two drastic things... my friend has 25k$ bills out to _billionaies_ who haven't paid yet 23:05 <@RangerZ> that is ~1/2 his yearly income 23:06 <@oddball> Unfortunately, that can often be the case. 23:06 <@klixa> i wish i could live in tn :( bleh 23:06 <@RangerZ> b/c he is basically a 'pro grade' cable monkey for installing home security+lighting fixtures, etc. 23:06 <@RangerZ> klixa: Evilpig is looking for a roomie 23:07 <@RangerZ> and he already said he is good with babie 23:07 <@RangerZ> babies* 23:07 <@klixa> RangerZ: hes not loking for 4 roomies tho :P 23:07 <@klixa> pro grade cable monkey? 23:08 <@oddball> I'm guessing the guys that running ethernet, etc for a living, but aren't electricians. 23:08 <@klixa> you don;t have to be an electrician to run ethernet tho 23:08 <@oddball> wait... lighting fixtures. Nevermind. 23:08 <@klixa> its low voltage 23:08 <@oddball> righ 23:08 <@oddball> er right 23:09 <@klixa> this is the same stuff my bf does, but he does it as a sub contractor...and we get perks like free motels...in Maine we had a free cottage, taht was nice 23:09 <@klixa> i wanted to stay in maine, but the work ran out 23:09 <@klixa> he gets paid $100 a day just to have a job 23:10 <@klixa> they call it a "per diem" 23:10 <@RangerZ> oddball: actually thats pretty much right, a cable monkey that has his name in the "these are people to hire" lists of rich people 23:11 <@RangerZ> which is a _good_ set of lists to be on, lol 23:11 <@RangerZ> still doesn't make him _earn_ a lot... but at least steady work 23:11 <@RangerZ> he installed lights in a toilet once... 23:11 <@klixa> my bf was on a list like that in the bay for awhile building barns 23:11 <@oddball> Yeah. There's guys like that that work Belle Meade, etc. 23:12 <@klixa> my stepfather was a painter in Nashville, hes retired now...he always worked for rich people..he painted alan jackson's phouse 23:12 <@klixa> or randy travis...i always get the 2 mixed up 23:12 <@RangerZ> doesn't matter, rich people probably none of us care about, lol 23:13 <@klixa> lol...yeah ... basiclaly i understand those lists 23:13 <@klixa> "why susan who painted your house, its just fabulpus" "oh i have a guy for that, i will give you his number" type crap 23:14 <@oddball> Well, more like "I need someone to paint my place. Who'd you to get to paint yours last summer," but... yeah. 23:15 <@klixa> oddball: shut up...in my mind they are acting pretentions! lol 23:15 <@oddball> heh 23:15 <@oddball> "I need someone that won't fuck it up." 23:18 <@RangerZ> oddball: you need a new table, and we should build it... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spdescYFqIE lol 23:18 < PigBot> Title: DIY Gaming Table for $150 - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/oghqk6o 23:18 <@oddball> Yes... I've looked at that before. 23:19 * RangerZ is definately not trying to use oddball's new table as a test piece 23:19 <@RangerZ> lol 23:19 <@oddball> heh 23:19 <@RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Il_PcMIaSwc 23:19 < PigBot> Title: The Gaming Dining Table - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/gvl2b4g 23:19 <@RangerZ> there is also this one, that looks much more 'dining table' esk 23:19 -!- klixa_ [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has joined #se2600 23:19 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o klixa_] by ChanServ 23:19 <@RangerZ> but he's a pro-carpenter too 23:20 <@RangerZ> and using much more adv. techniques, the other guy's is pretty fucking simple 23:22 <@oddball> I'd rather have the top flip instead of have the inset. 23:22 <@RangerZ> ? 23:23 -!- klixa [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:23 <@RangerZ> you mean the top be completely not part of the table? you just pick up as 1 piece and flip over? (or maybe 3 pieces) 23:23 <@oddball> right 23:23 <@oddball> For the dining room table one. 23:24 <@RangerZ> the inset is there because it is 'basically free' anyways 23:25 <@RangerZ> you will have the same amount of thickness from the 2x4 below the table either way, might as well put bottom on there and have a 2nd bottom 23:25 <@oddball> I'd rather the dice cups, etc be below the play field instead of above it. 23:26 <@RangerZ> ohh I agree, same with drink holders 23:26 <@RangerZ> I wouldn't do his plan exactly, but I think its a solid base 23:27 -!- klixa_ [~klixa@unaffiliated/klixa] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:27 <@RangerZ> I'd do something similar to the nicer video, and put rails on the side to hold cups, dice, etc. 23:27 <@oddball> have you seen the custom geek gaming tables? 23:27 <@RangerZ> I've seen a lot , but do you mean the 3000~4000$ ones? 23:27 <@oddball> yeah 23:28 <@RangerZ> think so, but I don't have link to compare with right now 23:28 <@oddball> http://www.geekchichq.com/collections 23:28 < PigBot> Title: Collections Geek Chic (at www.geekchichq.com) http://tinyurl.com/qd8sqwx 23:28 <@RangerZ> fucking Gamespot has a coffee table I want 23:28 <@oddball> oh? 23:28 < dfused> well then o fucking TAKE IT 23:28 <@RangerZ> it pulls up and out and is usable as a mouse/keyboard 23:29 <@RangerZ> and has controller places in the mechanism, for both wired and non 23:29 <@oddball> Geek Chic has some that aren't in the $3k + territory. 23:29 <@RangerZ> s/as/for 23:29 <@oddball> and, well... it's custom made furniture made from real wood, so it's going to cost you. 23:30 <@RangerZ> 'ehh', you can actually get GOOD deals back home 23:31 <@RangerZ> amish/menonite woodworkers will basically build anything you want for a minor fee 23:31 <@oddball> Although, I would probably do bad things for this one: http://www.geekchichq.com/collections/game-room-tables/products/vizier-deposit 23:31 <@oddball> cool 23:31 <@RangerZ> I saw a 12ftx8ft entertainment center for 1200 23:31 <@oddball> There are Amish a couple hours from here... 23:33 <@RangerZ> but yeah, I've actually been thinking about building me a table for a while now, (dining room variety) 23:35 <@oddball> cool 23:35 <@oddball> We might do something like that when we finally move to a new house and have the proper room for one. 23:35 <@RangerZ> would have done it years ago, but I don't have a garage, etc 23:36 <@oddball> Right. 23:36 <@oddball> Naienko's dad does wood working as a hobby and has all the tools. 23:36 <@RangerZ> but thinking about maybe buying rolling caster cabinet for the porch to store the tools, and just being very judicious with my wood/supplies purchases 23:36 <@RangerZ> building* 23:37 <@RangerZ> but *shrugs* 23:37 <@RangerZ> I really need to move to a house first 23:40 <@RangerZ> also, this guy's design isn't "bad", but his dex skill is like -1 23:41 <@RangerZ> his jigsaw skill and what not is worse than i've ever seen in person 23:42 <@oddball> heh 23:44 <@RangerZ> even with that the finished tables 'looks good' (from 12ft) lol --- Log closed Tue Dec 29 00:00:12 2015