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01:24 <@RangerZ> http://store.steampowered.com/app/329860/
01:24 < PigBot> Title: Save 50% on Catlateral Damage on Steam (at store.steampowered.com) http://tinyurl.com/n9f5csu
01:24 <@RangerZ> the video for this is amazingly silly
01:26 <@RangerZ> Dagmar: Evilpig oddball you all need to see that, hehe
01:37 <@Dagmar> Sooo... apparently if you fly _straight at_ a planet and it's small enough, you can wind up *inside* the damn thing
01:39 <@Dagmar> Well, it's good to know the Ronco people are still working.
01:41 <@RangerZ> Dagmar: Elite's "edge detection" having issues?
01:42 <@RangerZ> like how I ended up 'in' the death star in Star Wars Alliance? hehe (it was a tunnel run, and I clipped into the void, and just flew _directly_ towards the center, I ran the kessel run in 10 parsecs that day...
01:45 <@Dagmar> I think it was a matter of how fast I was going and how small the planet was
01:45 <@Dagmar> I couldn't figure out what I was seeing at first.  I thought the terrain and sky had glitched out
01:46 <@Dagmar> ...then I decided I'd fly out of the atmosphere to have another run at the place (because _usually_ when you get into the atmosphere it stops saying 'Unexplored')...
01:46 <@Dagmar> ...and just as I reached the weird grid looking thing, I noticed I had a negative altitude.  *WHAM*
01:47 <@Dagmar> I took a bit of damage but at least didn't crack up
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03:57 <@RangerZ> http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/chicago-police-woman-accidentally-killed-officer-fire-35961831
03:57 < PigBot> Title: Chicago Police: Woman Accidentally Killed by Officer Fire - ABC News (at abcnews.go.com) http://tinyurl.com/j2td87n
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09:51 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: https://twitter.com/Wilpig/status/681140263952093184
09:51 < PigBot> Title: Wilpig on Twitter: "Pretty sure I broke the main storyline #PS4share https://t.co/6l4qIkOLKq" (at twitter.com) http://tinyurl.com/plllkbe
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11:54 <@oddball> Wait... they moved the deafult key binding for VATS?  Why?!
11:57 < RangerZ1> to fuck with you
11:57 < RangerZ1> obviously
11:57 < RangerZ1> don't worry, they got rid of key-rebinding too
11:57 < RangerZ1> hehe
12:00 < RangerZ1> wow... steam is ALL ABOUT _everyone_ using the mobile authenticator app
12:01 < RangerZ1> can't even trade items without it really, takes 3 days to actually transfer (to help stop hacking/theft)
12:01 <@oddball> Please telling me you're joking about the key binding thing.  (installing now)
12:02 <@oddball> actually... scratch that... cleaning up my HD so I *can* install.
12:02 < RangerZ1> i -hope- I'm kidding
12:03 < RangerZ1> but Fallout 4 is a hot mess when it comes to stability/etc, the first set of patches really helped, but if any game wasn't labeled 'Fallout' and came out like fallout 4, then it would have been panned
12:06 <@oddball> Sadly, that kind of describes Fallout 3 and New Vegas.
12:09 < RangerZ1> I've still only played Fallout 1 and 2....
12:09 < RangerZ1> which are _nothing_ like 3/4
12:09 <@oddball> nope
12:10 < RangerZ1> but thankfully 4 isn't like 3 at all too
12:10 < RangerZ1> dumbed down , also, make sure you have a lot of the 'charisma' stat
12:11 < RangerZ1> (now just screwing with oddball) lol
12:12 <@oddball> most of the bitching I've seen about the game is that it's harder.
12:12 < RangerZ1> (But charisma stat is true) from every (long form) review I saw, apparently they changed the dialog system from KOTOR/etc and made it "you only get good options if your char is high enough"
12:14 < RangerZ1> http://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2015/12/27/severe-weather-tornadoes-texas-south/77939562/ glad global warming isn't happening, I'd hate to see extreme weather events hit places like TX....
12:14 < PigBot> Title: Texas under siege: Tornadoes, flooding, snow and ice (at www.usatoday.com) http://tinyurl.com/qzzwcfc
12:24 <@Dagmar> Nope.  If there's a chance your little gambit could succeed you'll get more dialog options
12:24 <@Dagmar> ...and you'll see it make and fail the check.
12:24 <@Dagmar> I never had FO4 crash, although there were a few quests I broke doing things I was pretty sure would break them
12:37 <@oddball> Oh, and I've gotten sucked into Final Fantasy Record Keeper.
12:50 < RangerZ1> any good?
12:50 < RangerZ1> hadn't touched it
12:52 <@oddball> pretty good time water
12:52 <@oddball> er waster.
12:52 <@oddball> fun little game
12:53 <@oddball> Of course, I got damn lucky with some draws early on.  I've been told that having a party completely stocked with 5 star weapons (highest teir) in their early teens is... a bit abusive and rare.
12:56 <@oddball> damnit... apparently, even though I have a physical copy, most of Fallout 4 has to be downloaded... so I won't be playing for a while.
13:00 < RangerZ1> oddball: you mean you bought a CD key on a disc?
13:00 < RangerZ1> interesting concept for PC game
13:00 < RangerZ1> hehe
13:28 <@oddball> Once upon a time, we bought games on discs and could play our new games withing 15 minutes of inserting these discs.
13:29 < RangerZ1> oddball: don't worry, comcast/et.al. are going to make you pay a 'game downloading' fee soon too
13:30 < RangerZ1> since you are using up too much of the limited 'bits' in existence
13:38 <@oddball> Yeah... that's why I switched to business class.  No limit.
13:38 <@oddball> And I'm going to switch to Google as soon as I have the chance.
13:46 < _NSAKEY> That's why I use TDS.
14:30 <@Dagmar> Okay.  Weird.
14:31 <@Dagmar> Sometimes I guess Twich just doesn't actually catch a stream and nVidia doesn't notice or something.
14:31 <@Dagmar> I can't get their site to show my any sign of the broadcast I just finished so I can edit the title.
14:31 <@Dagmar> I guess it'll show up later or not.
14:33 <@Dagmar> Today we _have_ learned to disable the Star Citizen patch monitor because it'll crash you right the heck out of Elite
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17:09 < RangerZ1> apparently oddball got fallout to work, since he's being so quiet
17:13 < _NSAKEY> Probably.
17:13 < _NSAKEY> I'd say his chances of being engrossed in congress streams are very low.
17:51 < RangerZ1> congress in session over a holiday?
17:51 < RangerZ1> you need to stop smoking that wacky tobaccy
17:56 < _NSAKEY> https://events.ccc.de/congress/2015/Fahrplan/schedule.html
17:56 < PigBot> Title: Schedule 32. Chaos Communication Congress (at events.ccc.de) http://tinyurl.com/zkb9krs
17:59 < dfused> lies
18:07 < RangerZ1> bu law I think CCC has to change its name soon
18:08 < RangerZ1> Republican controlled house already has 'chaos congress'
18:10 < dfused> booooo
19:10 < RangerZ1> http://gate-jsdf.wikia.com/wiki/Pi%C3%B1a_Co_Lada
19:10 < PigBot> Title: Piña Co Lada - Gate - Thus the JSDF Fought There! Wiki - Wikia (at gate-jsdf.wikia.com) http://tinyurl.com/ohl7cxk
19:11 < RangerZ1> sometimes I love japanese naming conventions of characters
19:11 < RangerZ1> Piña Co Lada
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20:42 < RangerZ1> http://www.12newsnow.com/story/30836616/no-arrests-after-2000-teens-fight-at-louisville-mall
20:42 < PigBot> Title: No arrests after 2,000 teens fight at Louisville mall - 12 News (at www.12newsnow.com) http://tinyurl.com/ornr2ty
20:42 < RangerZ1> wtf...
20:42 < RangerZ1> also their "idea" of how to prevent it is to stop minors from being allowed into the mall without parents is pretty dumb too
20:43 < RangerZ1> basically a "not our problem, let someone else deal with it"
20:44 < _NSAKEY> They probably don't have the infrastructure to arrest 2000 people at once.
20:44 < _NSAKEY> Should have just tear-gassed them and moved on.
20:44 <@oddball> Watch this end up being like the incident at Opry Mills a few months back where "hundreds of kids fighting" turned out to be 3 kids fighting... sort of.
20:45 < _NSAKEY> There's also that.
20:45 < dfused> should have called the national guard on them as they are a bunch of terrorists
20:45 < _NSAKEY> Hickory Hollow instituted a similar policy, because parents were using the place as an evening daycare.
20:45 < _NSAKEY> It was still too late the save the mall.
20:48 <@oddball> So... the only "eye witness" they could get was a kid that said that he left before any of the fights started.
20:51 <@oddball> And the mall was about to close the mall and push out the 2000 fighting teens into the streets?  I'm going with bullshit.
21:02 < RangerZ1> part of me wants to think it was actually a protest, but they don't want to admit it
21:02 < RangerZ1> b/c I could see that happening too
21:02 < RangerZ1> with them thinking "minors can't protest, because they aren't adults"
21:02 < RangerZ1> http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-weather-holiday-idUSKBN0U90DX20151228 yep... no abnormal weather at all... nope
21:02 < PigBot> Title: Christmastime storms, tornadoes kill at least 43 in U.S | Reuters (at www.reuters.com) http://tinyurl.com/hsfeqp8
21:44 <@Dagmar> I don't think for even a second that 2,000 kids were involved in some massive melee
21:46 < RangerZ1> especially "spontaneously throughout the entire mall"
21:47 <@Dagmar> I find it questionable for them to claim they even had 2,000 teenagers shopping there at once.
21:47 < RangerZ1> I could even see a hundred or two hundred fighting in a food court or something
21:48 <@Dagmar> So I went back to the starting space station in Open Play mode.... Some silly git tried to interdict me.
21:48 < RangerZ1> but 2000.... distributed throughout the mall, if it -did- happen, then it was planned
21:48 < RangerZ1> nice
21:48 < RangerZ1> hope he had insurance
21:48 <@Dagmar> ...and I could tell it was a player because evading interdiction from a newbass is _easy_ compared to evading an NPC interdiction
21:49 <@Dagmar> I just don't expect the idiots will try it unless they "know" they're going to win, and I'm still looking for better weapons
21:50 <@Dagmar> I managed to find a decent multicannon but I'm still using the loaner pulse laser.  Once they're both upgraded (my hull and everything else is) I'll just start using the interdiction phase as a check of whether or not they know how to fly.
21:50 <@Dagmar> If it looks like i'm getting out of it easy, I'll just stop fighting it and smoke them
21:51 <@Dagmar> I still have 6,000 in fines to pay off, but no one's collecting that as a bounty until I go back to that system
21:51 <@Dagmar> I have about 700k credits now so when I go back it's going to be in a Cobra
22:06 <@sasquatc4> yea the cobra is still the best all-arounder, thats what im flyin is a fully loaded mk3
22:06 <@sasquatc4> bought a mk4 and a viper mk4 to slowly outfit too, but the cobra mk4 is fairly lame
22:08 <@sasquatc4> for weapons i recommend dual beams, dual multi-canons. You'll have to keep track of hardpoint placement though since on the mk3 there is a deadspot for your bottom hp's where your lasers wont be able to fire
22:08 <@sasquatc4> if you put them on the bottom, which id recommend since they are there just to take down shields
22:55 <@Dagmar> Mainly, what I need is more cargo space
22:56 <@Dagmar> I bought a Hauler (because they're cheap) but they still don't carry a lot
22:56 <@Dagmar> I know the amount a ship can tote ramps up quickly, but I'm not in the millions-of-credits range yet, so I gotta get there
22:57 <@Dagmar> It looks like unless wants to start keeping a lot of notes about the various factions, doing more than a select few types of planetary missions is going to result in being unwelcome a lot of places
23:00 <@sasquatc4> well if your doing transport missions then the cobramk4 may not be a bad choice, you get more space than the mk3, the main issue with the mk4 is that its speed is basically half of the mk3, and for that you gain some more cargo space, extra hardpoint, bit better shields and hull
23:01 <@sasquatc4> but that half speed is a killer, plus the power plant is still limited, so even if you outfit the extra hardpoint it could be tough to power it
23:01 <@Dagmar> IIRC the progression on storage space was 4, 8, 16, some 32's and then OMGLARGE
23:02 <@Dagmar> I am actually looking through the manual now
23:02 <@Dagmar> I wanna know WTF this percentage thing means
23:02 <@sasquatc4> yea, so the cobras can take 16's in their 4slots, and the mk4 has one or two more than the mk3
23:03 <@Dagmar> Ah heat level apparently
23:03 <@Dagmar> I defintely noticed the weapons issue with respect to generator power
23:03 <@Dagmar> ...back in beta
23:04 <@Dagmar> I depowered a few things in my ships config
23:04 <@Dagmar> You woulnd't happen to know WTF makes the planet _names_ get logged would you?
23:04 <@sasquatc4> yea just to power my weapons+interdicter+warrant scanner i usually leave my cargo, fuel scoop, planetary hanagar, and one or two other things always powered off unless i need them
23:05 <@Dagmar> despite that I've been flying the same ship all the time (with one space mining exception) it's being very strange
23:05 <@sasquatc4> nope
23:05 <@Dagmar> In one system, flying down near the things made the names get logged.  Since then, they've just stayed 'Unknown' even after landing
23:06 <@Dagmar> There kinda needs to be a way to 'bookmark' systems
23:06 <@sasquatc4> oh yea, i think people have been requesting that since the game came out
23:06 <@Dagmar> I get the feeling that people who are looking to make a name for themselves exploring have been suiciding to get back
23:06 <@Dagmar> Otherwise, there's a _real_ possibility of becoming permanently fucking lost
23:06 <@sasquatc4> i dont think so, i think you'll lose your discoveries if you do that
23:07 <@Dagmar> What, like, die ever?
23:07 <@sasquatc4> like when you scan, with a basic scanner or whatever, and find new astronomical things, you can go turn those in to systems that are >20ly away from the discovery
23:07 <@sasquatc4> for cash
23:07 <@sasquatc4> but if you die before you turn them in then your sol
23:07 <@Dagmar> Yeah, I was considering doing that
23:07 <@Dagmar> Well, of course I'd sell that data firce
23:07 <@Dagmar> er first
23:08 <@Dagmar> SOMEHOW I have found a number of astronomical bodies just a few hops from the starting point
23:08 <@Dagmar> Not sure what's up with that
23:08 <@sasquatc4> yea, id usually scan if i was doing a long trip and same thing, would find like 10-20 new objects, and its not like its an unknown route
23:08 <@Dagmar> Gonna snag the "Detailed planetary scanner" soon for extra munnies and go "thataway" for awhile
23:08 < RangerZ1> now... its 1000~2000 teens http://www.whas11.com/story/news/local/2015/12/27/mall-employees-shaken-after-st-matthews-mall-incident/77961134/
23:08 < PigBot> Title: Mall employees 'shaken' after St. Matthews Mall incident (at www.whas11.com) http://tinyurl.com/jl6wjco
23:09 < RangerZ1> between 1 to 2000 teens seems more likely
23:10 < dfused> mabe it was one of them there flash mobs kids keep talkin gabout
23:12 <@Dagmar> sasquatc4: My thinking is that drive assist is just broken
23:13 < RangerZ1> http://kotaku.com/boy-opens-christmas-playstation-4-finds-a-block-of-woo-1749852904
23:13 < PigBot> RangerZ1: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 20480 bytes.
23:13 < RangerZ1> [Boy Opens Christmas PlayStation 4, Finds A Block Of Wood With A Dick On It]
23:15 <@Dagmar> sasquatc4: I know it's supposed to keep you from hitting rocks and sliding out, but that it basically _maxes the accellerator_ all the time makes this fundamentally insane
23:21 <@sasquatc4> not really following, you talkin bout flight assist?
23:22 <@sasquatc4> oh, or driving i guess has drive assist, not sure what its supposed to do but i would assume the same as flight assist and makes it act how people would expect rather than having to control all thrusters and following physics
23:23 <@Dagmar> Generlaly, fucking wreck you
23:23 <@Dagmar> It basically just stomps on the throttle and mostly keeps you going straight
23:23 <@sasquatc4> thats useful for dogfighting, so you can be going in one direction, turn off flight assist so you maintain forward momentum, then spin around backwards
23:23 <@Dagmar> ...until you tag a rock
23:23 <@sasquatc4> so you keep your (now backwards) momentum while firing behind you
23:25 < trickshotjohnny> Dagmar: I was fighting with a tricked out Asp in a conflict zone too late one night and stupidly picked "give me a sidewinder" on the reload option.  so irritated I love such a nice ship.
23:26 < trickshotjohnny> s/love/lost/g, but I did love it, too.  I'm still working back up from a Cobra mkIII
23:27 <@Dagmar> Honestly, I've never bothered turning my ship around
23:28 <@Dagmar> Very few players seemed to be able to fly for shit in the previous beta, so I just always wound up shoving bullets right up their ass
23:28 <@Dagmar> Watching the various streamers, I think the idea of matching speeds just doesn't occur to them at all
23:28 < trickshotjohnny> if you can, check out the Peacock system.  it's got 2x blue-white stars, a white, a ton of brown dwarfs in orbit around the core stars, and it cashed it at 35k without detailed surface scans. I haven't tried surface scanning yet.
23:30 <@Dagmar> What's special about the brown dwarf stars?
23:30 < trickshotjohnny> Yeah, I can dogfight pretty well in a Cobra, and the Asp was good once I got the thrusters upgraded to 'B'.  I want to try a tricked out Vulture with large lasers next.
23:30 < trickshotjohnny> they get a little more credits.  I think the logic is that they're astronomical hazards since you can't skim fuel from them.
23:30 <@Dagmar> Half the livestreamers I see are just running around with dual lasers.
23:30 < trickshotjohnny> same with T-Tauri stars
23:31 <@Dagmar> Ah
23:31 < trickshotjohnny> also, blue, green, and white-blue stars fetch a ton more credits for some reason.  icy planets, gas giants.
23:31 <@sasquatc4> hmm, so for a tricked out asp explorer it looks like its ~30mil
23:31 <@sasquatc4> thats do-able
23:32 < trickshotjohnny> I've heard that detailed surface scans will net significant credits over the lower level scans, too.
23:32 <@Dagmar> 30% more is what I read earlier
23:32 < trickshotjohnny> yeah, it was pretty slick.  I was working on getting 'A' rated everything.
23:32 < trickshotjohnny> I -love- the shield cell banks.  seems recently that they come close to overheating my ship when I use them, but I think it's because it's a crappy 'E' rated one.
23:33 <@Dagmar> Maybe those are why the livestreamers seem to be ignoring thermic/kinetic
23:33 < trickshotjohnny> I was able to destroy pythons with the asp.  I did take out a few anacondas with NPC assist in conflict zones, but I couldn't do it solo or without wingmen.
23:33 <@Dagmar> ...or they could just be dimwitted
23:34 < trickshotjohnny> I think they're just flying vultures and you only get 2 large hardpoints with that.  it's the cheapest mid-sized combat ship.
23:34 < trickshotjohnny> I tried large laser, large cannon, and it sucked.
23:35 <@Dagmar> Yeah but once you've got someone's shields down... what then?  Continue tickling their hull/
23:35 <@Dagmar> ?
23:35 < trickshotjohnny> fine target with the 'y' key, take out their power plant or thrusters
23:35 <@Dagmar> I just feed them bullets
23:35 <@sasquatc4> yea, large cannon just sucks in general
23:36 <@sasquatc4> i tried it out on my build and immediately sold it back
23:37 < trickshotjohnny> what do people use for the throttle axis?  0 to max or -max to 0 to max?
23:37 <@Dagmar> 0 to max in the ships
23:37 <@sasquatc4> mines -max to 0 to max, but i have hotas
23:37 <@Dagmar> 0 to max in the SRV with left-shift as a toggle for reverse
23:37 <@Dagmar> The SRV throttles are fuckin buggy
23:38 < trickshotjohnny> I have cheapo hotas also, couldn't combat without it.
23:38 <@Dagmar> On my recordings you'll see me numerous times have to slap the throttle back and forth to get the SRV to actually move again
23:39 <@Dagmar> I just quit trying to use -max/+max on the SRV, even with a dead zone
23:39 < trickshotjohnny> I've tried some wing flying, and it's kinda janky.  we had some issues getting the NAV comps sync'd up, and you could loop it if you were both following each other.
23:40 <@sasquatc4> yea its picky if you dont both fsd at nearly the same time
23:40 < trickshotjohnny> there was also a significant lag in having the system contacts show up and get back in the same play instances
23:40 <@Dagmar> Aha
23:40 <@Dagmar> So that's what I was seeing those other players do
23:40 <@Dagmar> Following each other.  Heh
23:40 <@sasquatc4> but we use it all the time for interdicting for PP, plus to not have to worry about throttle in fsd
23:41 < trickshotjohnny> I tried PP one time, and immediately dropped it.  i'm not ready for that level of the meta game.
23:41 <@sasquatc4> well we just do it for weekly 5mil salary and 40% bonus to bounties
23:41 < trickshotjohnny> oh, nice
23:42 < trickshotjohnny> which faction leader?
23:43 <@sasquatc4> zac
23:44 <@sasquatc4> it would also be a pain but we happen to have a system right near us thats perfect for farming, its an anarchy system controlled by opposition. So we can interdict and kill all day long and not get bounties on our heads since its anarchy
23:44 < trickshotjohnny> he looks like Robert Patrick, mr T-1000.
23:44 <@sasquatc4> any other system though and your going to build up bounties and it makes it a huge pain in the ass
23:44 < trickshotjohnny> I stuck around his zone a long time to get a Sol permit
23:44 <@Dagmar> wait...so... if the system is anarchy there's _no_ fines?
23:45 < trickshotjohnny> yea, but there's also no bounties.
23:45 < trickshotjohnny> no warrants in neutral space
23:45 <@Dagmar> That could be useful for some of those fuckin' planetary infiltration missions
23:45 <@Dagmar> They almost _all_ require you drive straight into the restricted area and hang out.  Being shot at... I don't care about.  Being fucking _fined_ on the other hand is bullshit
23:46 <@Dagmar> I've still got to go back to Farinha or whatever and pay off 6,000cr in fines from failing at infiltration missions
23:46 <@sasquatc4> well you can still get fines at the stations i believe, but its just going to be a fine in that station. You'll never get a warrant/bounty out on your head for anything though
23:46 <@Dagmar> I'll give the infiltration jobs another go
23:46 < trickshotjohnny> if you skip a system for a week, your bounty will disappear because they assume you've already died.
23:47 < trickshotjohnny> I've flown across almost all of the occupied space, and the independent systems are bitches.  they have no love for me whatsoever.
23:47 <@Dagmar> Heh earlier I was just saying "fuck it" and getting killed because I was in the loaner ship
23:47 < trickshotjohnny> the empire and federation both love me.  i've got a petty officer rank with the feds and master rank with the imperials
23:47 <@Dagmar> I am... largely staying out of sight
23:48 <@sasquatc4> i still need to work on my fed rank, i think im petty as well or close, just tryin to get that sol permit
23:48 <@Dagmar> The 6000cr in fines in that one system was attracting a lot of attempts at interdiction
23:48 <@sasquatc4> but those missions rarely show up
23:48 < trickshotjohnny> it helps a lot because then their ships become friendlies and green and will help out if they're in system and won't scan as aggressively.
23:49 < trickshotjohnny> and it's not mutually exclusive.  you can rank up in both without a problem.  it's really the independent systems that start to dislike you more after that.
23:49 <@Dagmar> Whoever fuckin' pays me.
23:49 <@Dagmar> I don't trade in slaves, but everything is is just whatever someone wants to pay for it
23:49 <@Dagmar> Although... What the fuck is this froth?
23:50 <@Dagmar> It's in the prohibited items list in a number of places and I have never even heard of it before
23:50 < trickshotjohnny> Oh, I made my millions on the backs of slaving in Elite.  Conflict zones are the fun places, though.  Roll up and half the battle is already green makes it an easy choice to pick sides.
23:50 <@Dagmar> Blech.  OKay.  _frog_ beer.
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