--- Log opened Thu Dec 24 00:00:02 2015
00:04 <@RangerZ> http://twinfinite.net/2015/12/gamestop-sells-all-3-current-gen-consoles-at-an-insanely-low-price/ for 570$
00:04 < PigBot> Title: GameStop Selling All 3 Current Gen Consoles Together at an Insanely Low Price (at twinfinite.net) http://tinyurl.com/hf5z3te
00:04 <@RangerZ> that _is_ a pretty good deal...
00:07 <@RangerZ> some TN news ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trT9qlFAdFU
00:07 < PigBot> Title: Judge Stops New Debtors Prison - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/qh4pelq
00:07 <@RangerZ> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/poverty-jailing-probation-rutherford-county_56785da5e4b06fa6887e31e1
00:07 < PigBot> Title: Judge Says You Can't Lock Up People On Probation For Being Poor (at www.huffingtonpost.com) http://tinyurl.com/pzbv4pj
00:08 <@RangerZ> i'm really impressed to see this
00:09 <@RangerZ> I've been looking into this a bit recently, its a complete fucking joke
00:09 <@Dagmar> Yes it is
00:09 <@RangerZ> MBoro just happens to be among the most blatent
00:09 <@Dagmar> That company is going to lose against that lawsuit, _hard_
00:09 <@RangerZ> blatant*
00:09 <@RangerZ> and will hopefully set a good precedent
00:10 <@Dagmar> They were more than most companies, just in the business of creating slaves
00:10 <@Dagmar> It'll only set a good precedent if someone goes to jail for it
00:10 <@RangerZ> nah, I'd be fine with the practice just stopping
00:11 <@RangerZ> _jain_ and _prison_ are 2 of the things that I think should be unconstitutional to be privately owned
00:11 <@RangerZ> or "operated"
00:13 <@RangerZ> That is just fucking _ASKING_ for problems
00:20 <@RangerZ> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eighth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution  [Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.[2]]
00:20 < PigBot> Title: Eighth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) http://tinyurl.com/q968gxv
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00:24 <@Dagmar> Reinventing "the poor house" is a thing people should go to jail for
00:24 <@Dagmar> "Debtor's Prison" was one of the things we separated from the British over
00:36 <@RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqIRrZE8IZk
00:36 < PigBot> Title: Congress Sneaks CISA Into Omnibus Bill. NSA Gets Everything. - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/nz3y36f
00:36 <@RangerZ> and that will be the end of 'major' news covering this
00:36 <@RangerZ> and "internet major" :/
00:41 <@Dagmar> They barely mentioned it before.
00:41 <@Dagmar> They opted to worry about whether or not a GOP candidate revealed "state secrets" during the debates
00:42 <@Dagmar> OKay.  Fuck this game's complexity right now
00:42 <@Dagmar> I'm just going to leave the spaceport, fly down to the nearest planet (which I *think* I can land on) and see if I can find anything to just fuckin' steal
00:43 < Healix> what are you playing?
00:43 <@Dagmar> At least I have 100,000CR _and_ a loaner ship
00:43 <@Dagmar> Elite Dangerous: Horizons
00:43 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: That article isn't surprising.
00:43 < _NSAKEY> Rutherford county has decades of stupid shit like that.
00:43 < _NSAKEY> Hopefully once the feds finally oust the dirty sheriff, it might be the beginning of a long clean-up.
00:44 <@Dagmar> It started me off at a dock where there are no salvage missions on the planet that I'm cleared for yet
00:44 <@Dagmar> So... Fuck having a _plan_
00:44 <@Dagmar> Usually I don't leave the station until I've got my next delivery locked in
00:45 <@Dagmar> My plan is now, "Check out planet.  Maybe steal some stuff.  Go somewhere the hell else.   MAYBE not die."
00:45 <@Dagmar> I would not advise visiting LHS 3447 A right now if you could be mistaken for a lost cargo container
00:45 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: When even the sheriff that's under a federal investigation for public corruption is against a practice... You know it's terrible.
00:46 <@Dagmar> I have a cheatsheet in front of me and I still almost pulled a noobass "Let's boost into the station' move earlier.  Heh
00:46 <@Dagmar> You know... the "Press TAB key, die 20 seconds later" move.  heh
00:47 <@Dagmar> ...although that's sort of how I learned to dock at high speeds before.  Heh
00:59 <@Dagmar> A ~20m maintenance.
00:59 <@Dagmar> I guess that's how you know it's really an MMO.  :)
01:00 <@Dagmar> I'm going to stream this when the servers come back up.  Its' just too funny.
01:00 < Healix> throw me a link
01:01 <@RangerZ> selling my PS4 Fallout 4 Pipboy edition for 150$ if anyone cares
01:01 < Healix> i am not, dont have a ps4, but that makes me wanna ask if anyones gotta 3ds xl they'd sale
01:02 <@RangerZ> Evilpig: has a few extra
01:02 <@RangerZ> lol
01:03 < Healix> should i legit ask or is their a joke i'm missing out on
01:04 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: It'll be on twitch.tv/evilDagmar
01:05 <@RangerZ> you will be?
01:05 <@Dagmar> yeah, might as well
01:06 <@RangerZ> Healix: no i was being legit honest, don't know if he'd sell them
01:06 <@Dagmar> I successfully got my leetle ship into orbit, and then into glide mode
01:06 <@RangerZ> nice
01:06 < Healix> thanks ill ask him RangerZ
01:06 <@Dagmar> I'm pretty sure I have something else to figure out because it _appears_ the game is telling me I'll be flying for about an hour and a half before I get to the land base
01:07 <@Dagmar> Luckily I remembered "Keep the thingie blue" on the way to the planet
01:07 <@Dagmar> I knew how to fly fine a couple months ago.  heh
01:07 <@Dagmar> This _landing_ thing?  No idea what I'm doing
01:08 <@Dagmar> ...or at least, landing on a planet
01:08 <@Dagmar> Docking's still fairly easy after I frantically remapped the thrusters to the hat stick
01:10 <@Dagmar> Cartographics was still meaningless when I last logged into this
01:11 <@Dagmar> The other reason I wasn't worrying too much about the loss of "solo play" is that bit
01:11 <@Dagmar> Cuz _now_ we can get seriously fucking lost
01:12 <@Dagmar> Hopefully there's no possible way to lose your own nav data
01:14 <@Dagmar> wtf maybe it was just that one instance?  I'm seeing people livestreaming. HOW I don't know
01:15 <@Dagmar> hahah this is what it looks like when someone's not afraid to die and lose precious credits
01:15 <@Dagmar> et
01:15 <@Dagmar> http://www.twitch.tv/burkeblack
01:15 < PigBot> Title: Twitch (at www.twitch.tv) http://tinyurl.com/o5v8pzb
01:16 <@Dagmar> It looked like he was about to just try to blast through the rings
01:16 <@Dagmar> HAHA
01:16 <@Dagmar> Someone just told him "Don't fly into those"
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01:17 <@Dagmar> LOL
01:17 <@Dagmar> He frame-shifted into them
02:02 <@RangerZ> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/34447827/valid-usage-of-optional-type-in-java-8
02:02 < PigBot> Title: functional programming - Valid usage of Optional type in Java 8 - Stack Overflow (at stackoverflow.com) http://tinyurl.com/zlb6xcy
02:03 <@RangerZ> god I hate fucking functional programmers_S_
02:03 <@RangerZ> 1) "lets make our code completely fucking unreadable"  2) ??? 3) Profit
02:04 <@RangerZ> its not like the 'idea' of FP is difficult, but they never -try- to make their code easy to read :/
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02:31 <@Dagmar> Nope.  Still no idea what I'm doing.
02:32 <@Dagmar> Two stations I've been to, neither appears to sell the planetary landing equipment.
02:32 <@Dagmar> To teh googles!
02:32 <@Dagmar> Fuck me.
02:33 <@Dagmar> "Vehicle Hangars and Bays can be found at surface ports that offer the outfitting service, as well as some star ports."
02:33 <@Dagmar> I turned around and went back to the starport because I had some trouble getting near the right area on the planet.
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10:49 <@RangerZ> http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/25/us/storms-mississippi-tennessee-arkansas.html
10:49 < PigBot> "Couldn't snarf url: HTTP Error 302: The HTTP server returned a redirect error that would lead to an infinite loop.\nThe last 30x error message was:\nFound. http://tinyurl.com/qdurjhy"
10:50 <@RangerZ> I blame dfused
10:51 < dfused> thats Mr Dfused "the doombringer"
10:51 <@RangerZ> since global warming isn't real, and it isn't in the mid 60s on christmas
10:51 <@RangerZ> there 'has' to be another reason
10:52 <@RangerZ> its obviously not impacted at all by climate
10:52 < dfused> devil's advocates could say that we've had many many christmas seasons that were warm for many decades
10:54 < dfused> I remember being very young (low single digits) living in southern georgia (near the swamp) and walking around in snow (little though it was)
11:06 <@oddball> As the weather channel pointed out last night, the storms and high temps pretty much match the el nino pattern of 1983.
11:30 <@RangerZ> oddball: yeah I know, but my point stands, well my 'mocking' of the GOP
11:31 <@RangerZ> as the ONLY political party in the world that doesn't agree that global warming exists
11:31 <@RangerZ> North Korea, Iran, Cuba, Syria, China, Burma, and even Sudan can all agree on the science
11:32 <@RangerZ> but not american bible thumpers
11:32  * RangerZ decides to go back to bed, and cry a little for our nation
11:33 <@RangerZ> http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/12/24/school-lunch-lady-feeds-hungry-kid-gets-fired/77874054/
11:33 < PigBot> Title: School lunch lady feeds hungry kid, gets fired (at www.usatoday.com) http://tinyurl.com/hhg4gn8
11:33 <@RangerZ> "....issued a press release saying that "in the spirit of the holidays," it has extended "an opportunity for (Bowden) to return to employment." 
11:33 <@RangerZ> no....
11:34 <@RangerZ> " Because we realize how fucking much bad PR this is causing we'll give her job back to her"
12:23 <@RangerZ> Happy Secular Non-Religious Federal Holiday: Christmas  to everyone ;)
12:29 < aestetix> awesome
12:29 < aestetix> Sai filed an injunction against TSA
12:44 <@Dagmar> Who is 'Sai'?
12:45 < aestetix> http://papersplease.org/wp/2015/12/18/are-tsa-actions-subject-to-judicial-review/
12:45 < PigBot> Title: Papers, Please! » Blog Archive » Are TSA actions subject to judicial review? (at papersplease.org) http://tinyurl.com/pepr7u5
12:45 < aestetix> also http://s.ai/
12:45 < PigBot> Title: Sai (saizai) (at s.ai) http://tinyurl.com/zrllo7f
12:46 < aestetix> One of the reasons I know him is because Sai is his full legal name.
12:56 <@RangerZ> god... off white text on black screen like that is fucking hard to read after a few min.
12:56 <@RangerZ> fucking blurs together
12:57 < dfused> you just need glasses
12:57 <@RangerZ> I have them, but that specific color choice always annoys me
13:03 <@RangerZ> okay... so i officially 'get' (as in Understand) writer's block now
13:04 <@RangerZ> hit the 300k words mark... and in the middle of the 4th volume... and just hit a wal
13:04 <@RangerZ> wall*
13:07 < aestetix> 4th volume?
13:08 < aestetix> you're reading Knuth?
13:10 < aestetix> RangerZ: or is it because you have written 300k words nobody wil ever bother to read :p
13:13 <@RangerZ> knuth has WELL over 300k words
13:17 < aestetix> I was making a joke about TAOCP Volume 4a
13:24 <@RangerZ> I still wonder if he was told to stop writing
13:24 <@RangerZ> "ohh look, he's getting to encryption soon"
13:25 <@RangerZ> Almost too conspiracy theory to be true... but that is what makes me wonder if it is, b/c our gov't (world) works that way some times
13:29 <@RangerZ> https://variety.com/2015/film/news/sony-emoji-animated-movie-2017-1201667497/
13:29 <@RangerZ> Emoji movie....
13:29 <@RangerZ> Sure Sony... I can now understand why only PlayStation makes money
13:50 <@Mirage> My award for "Worst Xmas Remake 2015" goes to Sharon Van Etten for her painful rendition of "Blue Christmas"
13:51 <@Mirage> i highly recommend sending it to anyone you don't like to celebrate the holiday
14:25 <@Dagmar> hehehehehe
14:25 <@Dagmar> http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/15/12/24/1854236/pirate-bay-cofounder-utterly-bankrupts-the-music-industry
14:25 < PigBot> Title: Pirate Bay Cofounder Utterly Bankrupts the Music Industry - Slashdot (at hardware.slashdot.org) http://tinyurl.com/zwdfbby
15:00 < dfused> A Clockwork Orange is a fine xmas eve movie right?
15:03 < _NSAKEY> dfused: Christmas Eve needs more ultraviolence, so yes.
15:03 < dfused>   yay!
15:07 <@RangerZ> Dagmar: sorry, had to check VERY carefully what the date on that was
15:13 <@Dagmar> Holy fucking hell the planetary stuff is tediously complex
15:14 <@RangerZ> Dagmar: you realize that you aren't playing a game right?
15:14 <@Dagmar> I'm aware
15:14 <@RangerZ> you're in NASA's secret recruitment plan
15:14 <@Dagmar> I have often referred to Elite: Dangerous as "Space Trucker Sim"
15:14 <@Dagmar> I finally wound up literally just blowing up some rocks and harvesting htem around 5:30am
15:15 <@RangerZ> http://toyland.gizmodo.com/you-can-now-pre-order-an-obscenely-expensive-but-workin-1749602238? this is amazingly stupid
15:15 < PigBot> RangerZ: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 20480 bytes.
15:16 <@RangerZ> "working 'hoverboard' "
15:16 <@RangerZ> cost 20k$
15:16 <@RangerZ> to give you 6 min of flight
15:16 <@Dagmar> Also looks dangerous as fuck
15:17 <@RangerZ> what do you mean? 36 super fast electric fans spinning under your feet..... what could go wrong....
15:19 <@Dagmar> You could try leaning too hard
15:20 <@Dagmar> ...and since they're all pointing straight down, slam an edge into the ground
15:20 <@RangerZ> the EULA for that thing would be amazing to read
15:21 <@Dagmar> Probably hearing loss is even mentioned
15:22 <@Dagmar> redfast00: That's not going to reveal why the lock icon is added to the icon he's seeing
15:22 <@Dagmar> @$@$@
15:24 <@Dagmar> BAHAHAHA http://imgur.com/gallery/rodsu
15:24 < PigBot> Title: Looking at you, ya damn pervs - Album on Imgur (at imgur.com) http://tinyurl.com/pw5cqbm
15:26 <@RangerZ> nice
15:29 <@RangerZ> I hate how all job applications have something like this now a days "A passion for beautiful, pragmatic code paired with a strong sense of product design"
15:29 <@RangerZ> I don't have any fucking understanding what others want in apps
15:29 <@RangerZ> If I did, I wouldn't be applying for your fucking company
15:30 < aestetix> is anyone else doing adventofcode.com?
15:31 <@RangerZ> I'm going to guess no
15:31 < aestetix> it's fun
15:35 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: Odds are, THEY don't understand what others want in apps.
15:40 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: https://youtu.be/jcXJXNSy4fk?t=839
15:40 < PigBot> Title: Graham Norton S18E12 Carrie Fisher, Daisy Ridley, John Boyega, David Beckham and Kylie Minogue - YouTube (at youtu.be) http://tinyurl.com/nm7wkhc
15:40 < _NSAKEY> That was so funny that I had to track down the original source.
15:41 < dfused> Kylie....mmmmmmm
15:46 <@Dagmar> Fisher has kind of become hardcore as the years have passed.  Heh
15:46 <@Dagmar> I gotta say, what she told "the new girl" was kinda ruthless.
15:47 <@Catonic> eh.
15:48 <@Catonic> she's bipolar as fuck, but celebrity would make you that way.
15:49 < _NSAKEY> Carrie Fisher's interviews are the only part of the new star wars series that I care about.
15:49 < _NSAKEY> I'll probably never see the movies, but Carrie Fisher saying whatever the hell she wants and causing interviewers to panic? Sign me up.
15:49 <@Catonic> It's a good time to do the sequels, but I want something between Ep 3 and Ep 4.
15:50 <@Catonic> otoh, we do the best service to the aging actors by doing the sequels now... and it's really difficult to have age-appropriate roles for actors.
15:50 <@Catonic> The fact that Han is Han and Leia is now a General...
15:51 <@Catonic> I don't really think that anyone could have seen J.J. Abrams becoming the one who makes both Star Trek and Star Wars happen.
15:52 <@Catonic> but Hollywood ran out of originality long ago, and now they are realizing that there are untapped markets out there which were the domain of geeks...
15:52 < _NSAKEY> Hollywood has been unoriginal for decades.
15:52 < _NSAKEY> They were doing remakes as far back as the 40s.
15:53 <@Catonic> and combining that with fifth-wave feminism and gender (in)equalities, you get an environment that is open for the possibilities of such.
15:53 < _NSAKEY> Take The Maltese Falcon, for example.
15:53 < _NSAKEY> The Bogart version from the 40s is a remake.
15:53 <@Catonic> Boot, reboot, and then rehash.
15:53 < _NSAKEY> It's the version everyone knows, but it was a remake.
15:54 <@Catonic> otoh, we have better CGI now so that movies can be made cheaper, with less risk to actors.
15:54 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: the original Jurassic Park was from like 1927
15:54 < _NSAKEY> Gladiator is essentially a remake of a movie from the 70s.
15:54 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Do you know the name of the original? I'd be interested in tracking that down.
15:54 <@Catonic> aestetix: manilla
15:54 < _NSAKEY> s/70/60
15:55 <@Catonic> 300... a story as old as almost time itself.
15:57 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: uh I think "the lost world"
15:57 < aestetix> or something
16:03 <@RangerZ> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jurassic_Park_(film)
16:03 < PigBot> Couldn't snarf url: HTTP Error 404: Not Found. http://tinyurl.com/hxxzl94
16:03 <@RangerZ> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_World_(Conan_Doyle_novel)
16:03 < PigBot> Couldn't snarf url: HTTP Error 404: Not Found. http://tinyurl.com/oayng3o
16:04 <@RangerZ> Crichton's book probably took a lot from Doyle's
16:04 <@RangerZ> but honestly.... every book now a days takes a lot from Doyle's works
16:05 <@RangerZ> http://everythingisaremix.info/
16:05 < PigBot> Title: Everything is a Remix (at everythingisaremix.info) http://tinyurl.com/q832esv
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17:30 <@sasquatc4> https://github.com/Mechazawa/FuckFuckAdblock
17:30 < PigBot> Title: Mechazawa/FuckFuckAdblock · GitHub (at github.com) http://tinyurl.com/pmlta3j
17:52 <@RangerZ> sasquatc4: nice find
17:54 <@RangerZ> aestetix: right up your alley https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5jthaetaME
17:54 < PigBot> Title: Scrotum Squeezing Is A Big Problem In Sports - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/p9dtf28
17:54 < aestetix> lol
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19:12 <@Dagmar> w00t!  l33t c0d3z!~
19:16 <@RangerZ> is that a orbital space station in Elite D?
19:17 <@Dagmar> No, the auth code for domain transfer mail just went out
19:17 <@Dagmar> l33t c0d3z right to my inbox
19:17 <@RangerZ> ahh
19:18 <@Dagmar> I can see that before the week's up I'm going to have added my USB Xbox controller to the E:D config as well
19:18 <@Dagmar> Driving with a joystick is weird
19:19 <@Dagmar> Found a planet that has reliable ground missions tho
20:06 < Healix> are you streaming?
20:12 <@Dagmar> not at the moment... Getting things ready to start E:D again
20:12 <@Dagmar> Damn it's complex heh
20:12 <@Dagmar> What I was doing last night made it clear something's gone awry with my headset.  Trying to sort that out right now
20:35 < Healix> ah ok, just let me know im bored sitting at my pc anyway, might as well watch you probably (fail) at driving a space craft
20:38 < Healix> :)
20:43 < aestetix> RangerZ: familiar with John Kenneth Galbraith?
21:15 < dfused> hurray RUM!
21:26 <@Dagmar> Okay.  Either this works or it doesn't.  twitch.tv/evilDagmar
21:29 <@oddball> Ah... left my family via screaming match after I almost got scalded with boiling water because folks are too busy cleaning the kitchen to get out my way while I was cooking, to go to Naienko's family where there is love and warmth.
21:30 < dfused> yeah....christmas fucking sucks
21:33 < Healix> twitch use flash
21:33 < Healix> ?
21:34 <@Dagmar> I have no idea.  I thought it was pure HTML5
21:35 <@Dagmar> yah should be html5 now
21:37 < Healix> just having problems with the video, it' just a green screen, and ive turned off / on the use h/w acceleration
21:38 < Healix> chrome is working, must be a FF thing. no worires i can see you now
21:42 < aestetix> oh btw
21:42 < aestetix> oddball: if you're looking for a wya to learn the hjkl in vim
21:42 < aestetix> enable vimperator in firefox.
21:43 < aestetix> browse the web for a few days using vim keys and you'll be gold
21:44 < aestetix> Although now I get pissed off when I'm in something like MS Word that doesn't support the keys
21:44 <@oddball> heh
21:45 < Healix> thanks aestetix, ill put that to good use. looking to learn vim, just have other stuff im learning on my plate. dont wanna dedicate time to it yet
21:45 < aestetix> Healix: also, check out vim-adventures.com
21:46 < Healix> well. i know how ill be spending my down time at work.
21:46 < Healix> bookmarked those.
21:46 < aestetix> you guys are at work on xmas eve and xmas day?
21:47 < Healix> no, i just mean other times
21:47 < aestetix> oh
21:48 < aestetix> Sublime has the vim mode, but it's shitty
22:10 < Healix> goodnight Dagmar thanks for lettign me watch
22:11 <@RangerZ> aestetix: not particularly, why?
22:11 <@RangerZ> ESC:wq
22:11 <@RangerZ> there, all you need to know about vim
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22:36 <@RangerZ> honestly, I should take a history of economics course or something, I really have never covered it from 'that' angle, when I took it in HS, it was more about the 'mechanics' not the theory
22:53 < aestetix> RangerZ: the theory is way more interesting
22:53 < aestetix> Galbraith seems like an interesting response to Milton Friedman
23:35 <@Evilpig> buncha dummies
23:35 <@Evilpig> I'm still the owner of phreaknic.org
23:36 <@Evilpig> why the fuck would you want to switch from network solutions where I've traditionally paid $9.99 a year for domains to ghandi.net ?
23:36 <@Evilpig> http://www.gandi.net/
23:36 < PigBot> Title: Domain name registrar and VPS cloud hosting - Gandi.net (at www.gandi.net) http://tinyurl.com/bhqot
23:49 <@RangerZ> someone is pursuing Hinduism ?
23:50 <@RangerZ> Actually at this point I'd just use google domains, get to keep them private for like 2$ more than netsol
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