--- Log opened Sun Dec 20 00:00:51 2015
00:08 <@RangerZ> https://stackoverflow.com/jobs/13068/software-developer-rustici-software and https://stackoverflow.com/jobs/101221/nashvilles-best-places-to-work-needs-java-providertrust-inc
00:08 < PigBot> Title: Software Developer at Rustici Software - C# - Stack Overflow (at stackoverflow.com) http://tinyurl.com/q9kxgzc
00:08 <@RangerZ> two job postings for Nashville
02:58 <@Dagmar> echo "echo 'sleep 1' >> ~/.profile" >> /etc/skel/.profile
03:02 <@RangerZ> Dagmar:
03:02 <@RangerZ> ^
03:04 <@Dagmar> Hrmm?
03:04 <@RangerZ> your echo command
03:04 <@Dagmar> I thought people might appreciate the sinister nature of it.
03:04 <@RangerZ> ohh
03:04 <@RangerZ> I didn't even read it fully
03:04 <@RangerZ> I figured it was just your tabbing+emoji issue, hehe
03:04 <@Dagmar> Just shoving it into someone's ~/.profile directly also works.  :)
03:05 <@Dagmar> Someone mentioned this technique for making Linux more like Windows.
03:05 <@Dagmar> That gives you the "my computer runs more slowly every day" symptom
03:05 <@Dagmar> ...and then I thought, "how can I make this _worse_".
03:05 <@Dagmar> "chattr +a .profile"
03:06 <@Dagmar> ...because then they can't remove it.
03:06 <@RangerZ> Ohh I was going to say "add it to systemD ?
03:06 <@RangerZ> hehe
03:07 <@RangerZ> yeah... thats just wrong
03:10 <@Dagmar> Earlier I was experimenting with short script fragments to make a bash script execute in reverse order
03:11 <@Dagmar> torak: Check their support site for the motherboard.  If their driver CD has a linux directory, or they have linux drivers for some of the chipsets, it'll work.  You probably won't actually _need_ any of those
03:11 <@Dagmar> @#$@
05:09 <@Dagmar> This needs to be in compiz.  http://i.imgur.com/owqRfVV.gifv
05:09 < PigBot> Dagmar: That URL appears to have no HTML title.
05:09 <@Dagmar> It doesn't need one.
07:22 < aestetix> I think Dagmar just failed the Turing test
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10:18 <@RangerZ> Dagmar: gifs can have embedded meta data
10:18 <@RangerZ> obviously PigBot just needs to filter all gif links for that data hehe
10:45 <@Evilpig> I think the bot will ignore links like that in the future
10:47 <@Evilpig> http://i.imgur.com/owqRfVV.gifv
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11:20 <@RangerZ> haha... I am having too much fun on stackoverflow
11:21 <@RangerZ> people suggesting using reflection, and other BS to this person and I'm like "are you all fucking kidding me... just use 'package visible' and be done with it, this is like java 101" hehe (well a bit more diplomatic... but still, hehe)
12:53 <@RangerZ> god... open up steam and see Total Annihilation is up for sale... and its graphic looks like its form the mid 90s... wait...
13:44 <@Evilpig> I want xcom2 to hurry up and come out
13:45 < aestetix> Evilpig: any plans to go to HOPE 2016?
13:46 <@Evilpig> was talking to notlarry about it
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14:45 <@RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJBM5VLPDM8 jesus christ... this is fucking insane
14:45 < PigBot> Title: Lawmaker Proposes Bill To Punish Mizzou Strikers - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/guxhv43
15:15 < aestetix> http://imgur.com/a/qKOix
15:15 < PigBot> Title: Russian Redneck Culture - Album on Imgur (at imgur.com) http://tinyurl.com/hqdz7b9
15:17 < aestetix> god those girls are ugly
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16:32 <@Dagmar> I think that people who didn't know not to search for streaming dick aren't qualified to judge.
17:10 <@RangerZ> http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/12/donald-trump-2016-third-party-bid-213449
17:11 < PigBot> Title: Donald Trump 2016: Will the GOP Mount a Third-Party Challenge to Trump? - POLITICO Magazine (at www.politico.com) http://tinyurl.com/ou2dtr8
17:11 <@RangerZ> that would be amusing, the republicans splintering and mounting a 3rd party
17:14 <@RangerZ> part of me hopes that trump is the republican nominee, so we can see him fail miserably in the general election... and then I fear the worst and him somehow winning...
17:35 < aestetix> haha
17:36 <@RangerZ> I mean that from a non-partisan POV too
17:36 <@RangerZ> as a 1950s republican, I wish the party would get back to not being about social issues
17:36 <@RangerZ> ayn randians are at least honest
17:37 < aestetix> RangerZ: I'm pretty sure the US isn't a democracy anymore. It's run by a massive security corporation that still holds elections as a sort of reality tv show
17:38 <@RangerZ> no, thats the problem, it is
17:38 <@Dagmar> hehehe
17:38 < aestetix> at the local level, sure
17:38 <@RangerZ> but since the civil rights act, the conservatives have been undercutting the education system in the US so that the "others" don't get ahead
17:38 <@Dagmar> aestetix: So... a couple months ago, someone on G+ changed their name to "Dagmar d'swallower" to try and "get at me"
17:39 <@RangerZ> and that has lead us to where we are at not
17:39 <@RangerZ> did they change YOUR name to that?
17:39 <@Dagmar> aestetix: Currently their account is still frozen waiting on them to prove that's their name
17:39 <@RangerZ> b/c otherwise its just funny
17:39 <@Dagmar> heheh
17:39 <@RangerZ> nice
17:39 <@Dagmar> I just reported the account to G+ under "This person is harassing me"
17:39 <@Dagmar> Apparently that was the result.
17:40 <@Dagmar> You can't change your name repeatedly in a short span of time, either.  Heh
17:40 < aestetix> lol
17:41 < aestetix> http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/12/20/finally-an-explanation-for-hillary-clintons-long-bathroom-break/
17:41 < PigBot> "Couldn't snarf url: HTTP Error 303: The HTTP server returned a redirect error that would lead to an infinite loop.\nThe last 30x error message was:\nSee Other. http://tinyurl.com/jy48rmk"
17:41 < aestetix> you know, it's amazing that the venue couldn't get a porter potty for her
17:42 < aestetix> That said, I'm more amazed that the debate has to schedule around commercials.
17:42 <@Dagmar> Well, if it weren't for the corporations, those debates wouldn't be happening
17:42 < aestetix> You'd think they could figure out a way to allocate funding for the debates in their budget.
17:43 < aestetix> Of course, that's as crazy an idea as making election day a national holiday
17:43 <@Dagmar> Or asking people not work their employees to death
17:49 <@Dagmar> Wow.  Holy shit
17:49 <@Dagmar> http://w3techs.com/technologies/details/os-linux/all/all
17:50 < PigBot> Title: Usage Statistics and Market Share of Linux for Websites, December 2015 (at w3techs.com) http://tinyurl.com/328os4w
17:50 <@Dagmar> Yeah so... Click on the blue "Unix" to find out what they define as "Unix"
17:50 <@Dagmar> Their madness explains why somehow _Unix_ is running almsot twice as many websites as Linux.
17:52 <@RangerZ> okay?
17:53 <@RangerZ> http://w3techs.com/technologies/details/os-unix/all/all
17:53 < PigBot> Title: Usage Statistics and Market Share of Unix for Websites, December 2015 (at w3techs.com) http://tinyurl.com/7e5sgzo
17:53 <@RangerZ> they count Linux as a sub-category of Unix
17:54 <@Dagmar> But apparently also _separate_ from Unit
17:54 <@Dagmar> er Unix
17:54 <@RangerZ> how much did MSFT pay for this?
17:55 <@Dagmar> I don't think anyone's been paid much for this site at all
17:55 <@RangerZ> I was going to say, they could have at least splurged for a better design
17:55 <@Dagmar> They appear to be using a report generator to craft these pages, and their category organization is a goddamn klein constsruct
17:56 <@Dagmar> I just saw that it appeared that Unix was running twice as many webservers as _Linux_ and thought "In what fucking alternate universe"
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18:05 < aestetix> RangerZ: http://www.salon.com/2015/12/20/sixteen_years_in_academia_made_me_an_a_hole/
18:06 < PigBot> Title: Sixteen years in academia made me an a-hole - Salon.com (at www.salon.com) http://tinyurl.com/qagq2ba
18:06 <@RangerZ> might as well say "microkernel" and "hybrid kernel" OSes host 99.99% servers
18:07 <@RangerZ> aestetix: he was a full time post doc
18:07 <@RangerZ> of course his life sucks
18:07 <@RangerZ> I make more now than he probably did
18:07 < aestetix> she but yeah
18:09 <@RangerZ> also, working that kinda life can suck
18:09 <@RangerZ> << doesn't look forward to it
18:09 <@RangerZ> lol
18:15 <@Dagmar> God damn
18:15 <@Dagmar> Having to deal with someone in ##Linux who read https://www.thomas-krenn.com/en/wiki/SSD_Over-provisioning_using_hdparm
18:15 < PigBot> Title: SSD Over-provisioning using hdparm - Thomas-Krenn-Wiki (at www.thomas-krenn.com) http://tinyurl.com/kwmlpqs
18:15 <@Dagmar> They _actually_ went and reserved 15% of their SSD's space with HPA
18:16 <@Dagmar> because it'll, you know, _increase the lifespan_
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18:16 <@Dagmar> ..and they were asking how the operating system handles trimming that
18:16 <@Dagmar> I was like, "Pretty much the same way a rabbi does"
18:18 <@Dagmar> ike: Perhaps seagate lied to you
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18:50 < aestetix> holy shit
18:50 < aestetix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NT2ZiPIukw&ab_channel=LeeHardcastle
19:20 <@Dagmar> This is why I hate how goth fashion is mainly produced in Asia
19:20 <@Dagmar> http://store.vampirefreaks.com/product/details/3844/Thor-Hoodie
19:20 < PigBot> Title: VampireFreaks Store :: Gothic Clothing, Cyber-goth, punk, metal, alternative, rave, freak fashions (at store.vampirefreaks.com) http://tinyurl.com/q4xxvtb
19:20 <@Dagmar> A "large" is a 40 chest measurement
19:20 <@Dagmar> THat might fit you, aestetix
19:20 <@Dagmar> I'd be pushing it with xx-large by their standard
19:21 <@Dagmar> Same goes for http://store.vampirefreaks.com/product/details/6960/Tripp-Hellraiser-Trenchcoat
19:21 < PigBot> Title: VampireFreaks Store :: Gothic Clothing, Cyber-goth, punk, metal, alternative, rave, freak fashions (at store.vampirefreaks.com) http://tinyurl.com/ov6qnbc
19:21 <@Dagmar> By their measurement standards, that's a coat for chidlren.
19:21 <@Dagmar> er children
19:25 < aestetix> Dagmar: xxlarge? are you fat now?
19:28 <@Dagmar> No, I have a 46" chest measurement
19:28 <@Dagmar> I am actually a _large_ guy
19:30 <@Dagmar> Asians on the other hand, compared to Americans, are damn small
19:31 <@Dagmar> $70 for a backpack is kind of steep, but... since it's apparently been made out of vegans I especially like it http://www.dollskill.com/disturbia-pma-backpack.html
19:31 < PigBot> Title: Disturbia PMA Backpack | Dolls Kill (at www.dollskill.com) http://tinyurl.com/otrgap2
19:32 <@Dagmar> Oh wait, that's only the trim.  The rest of it is just canvas
19:33 <@Dagmar> slappymcfry: What... you _just_ ran memtest?  Like, a minute ago?
19:33 <@Evilpig> is it okay to make leather out of a vegan as long as you don't eat them?
19:34 <@Evilpig> or do they need to die of natural causes before you dry them out?
19:34 <@Dagmar> I don't think how they die really matters.
19:45 <@Evilpig> http://cardsagainsthumanityustreasuryinflationprotectedsecuritiesfund.com/
19:45 < PigBot> Title: Cards Against Humanity US Treasury Inflation Protected Securities Fund (at cardsagainsthumanityustreasuryinflationprotectedsecuritiesfund.com) http://tinyurl.com/njo2sv6
19:46 <@Dagmar> what?
19:47 < aestetix> CAHUTIPSF duh
19:47 <@Evilpig> part of their 8 days of whatever promotion 
19:48 <@Dagmar> The page looks like it might be a sign-up for a mailing list
19:48 <@Evilpig> I have a mock savings bond here with a password
19:49 <@Evilpig> http://cardsagainsthumanityustreasuryinflationprotectedsecuritiesfund.com/
19:49 <@Evilpig> bah
19:49 < PigBot> Title: Cards Against Humanity US Treasury Inflation Protected Securities Fund (at cardsagainsthumanityustreasuryinflationprotectedsecuritiesfund.com) http://tinyurl.com/njo2sv6
19:49 <@Evilpig> https://goo.gl/photos/9KdXvZUSPDzH4bJx9
19:49 < PigBot> Evilpig: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 20480 bytes.
20:00 <@Dagmar> Ohh... not bad at all then
20:01 <@Dagmar> So... how much did that cost you?
20:01 <@Dagmar> Less than a dollar hopefully
20:12 < aestetix> ok so
20:12 <@Evilpig> ummm ... $15?  they've sent three pairs of socks, some cards, a notebook
20:12 < aestetix> is there any reason letsencrypt certs would be differnt than other certs?
20:12 <@Evilpig> they gave their entire printing factory in china a week off 
20:16 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: In what way?
20:17 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: usually you send in a CSR, get a cert, and configure your webserver to use the cert and the key
20:18 < aestetix> I'm wondering if it's the same procedure here
20:20 < aestetix> I guess I'll find out in a bit, I'm setting one up to see how well it works
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20:21 < aestetix> I wonder why it is downloading Django...
20:21 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: It's actually pretty easy, overall.
20:21 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: I've worked a ton with typical SSL certs
20:21 < _NSAKEY> I did it on FreeBSD + nginx (Two platforms that aren't really supported) and I didn't find myself wishing death upon the people who wrote the script.
20:22 < _NSAKEY> It auto-gens the cert (2048-bit RSA is the default) and drops it in a special location.
20:23 < _NSAKEY> The one weird thing is that the certs are only good for 90 days, but renewal is trivial (Just run a command).
20:23 < aestetix> I actually view that as a good thing
20:24 < aestetix> Since rekeying certs does make things more secure
20:25 <@RangerZ> you mean you don't make certs last 50 years?
20:26 < aestetix> no only my PGP keys
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20:33 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: I had to use --standalone and --debug, but that worked just fine.
20:42 <@RangerZ> i remember google going through a phase where they had valid keys for 35 years or something
20:43 <@RangerZ> or am I remembering wrong...
20:49 <@RangerZ> googling it just returns "these are not the certificate stories you are looking for"
20:49 <@RangerZ> ...odd...
21:10 <@Dagmar> _NSAKEY: The frequent rekeying makes total sense
21:10 <@Dagmar> _NSAKEY: People who are too "cheap" to just buy a cert to begin with are probably going to be _very_ slovenly about how they secure those keys.  Better the things expire often than be good for three years, and compromised in the first month
21:14 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: It's only worth bringing up because most people would be used to the keys lasting for a year or two.
21:14 < _NSAKEY> The good thing is that it's actually as simple as running a command, and therefore it can be automated.
21:14 <@Dagmar> Cronjob tiem!
21:14 < _NSAKEY> Yup.
21:15 < _NSAKEY> So, I just checked my e-mail.
21:15 < _NSAKEY> PN19 videos are live.
21:15 < _NSAKEY> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL99hCfcp7JSz43sSIWmwPWr_UopswTlnQ
21:15 < PigBot> Title: PhreakNIC19-2015 - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/hk78qov
21:15 < _NSAKEY> I'd /topic it, but no ops.
21:19 < aestetix> give me ops
21:20 < _NSAKEY> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9G8mqbc-sY
21:20 < PigBot> Title: PhreakNIC 19 - "Ingress" - "Dagmar" - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/hrwtpjg
21:26 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: I think you and the guy on the left would get along famously.
21:34 < aestetix> uh
21:34 < aestetix> that guy is a dirty hippie
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21:35 -!- oddball changed the topic of #se2600 to: Phreaknic 19 videos http://tinyurl.com/hk78qov
21:37 < aestetix> So I have an idea for a PhreakNIC talk
21:38 <@oddball> Good.  Fly in and give it next year. :p
21:38 < aestetix> We get one of those mannequin dummies like they use for CPR training, and I can ask Corydon to demonstrate the answers to questions I ask him on stage
21:39 < aestetix> oddball: you can submit questions now if you want
21:39 <@Dagmar> How about we just wrap you in several layers of heat-shrinkable plastic and have him demonstrate them on you?
21:39 <@Dagmar> We could leave you some air holes to talk through
21:39 <@Dagmar> "talk"
21:40 < aestetix> Maybe we could repurpose the rattle cutout
21:40 <@RangerZ> corydon walks up with a metal o-ring and attached to some leather....
21:41 < aestetix> How about a cockring with parts of the bitcoin block chain painted on it
21:41 < aestetix> we could call it a "blockring"
21:42 < aestetix> Althoug that might scare away both of the women in attendance
21:42 < _NSAKEY> Dagmar: Would the end result be something like this? http://www.girlvinyl.com/pn6/pages/2093_JPG.htm
21:43 < aestetix> oh shit is that clayton
21:43 < aestetix> it is
21:43 < aestetix> I think I was in the room when that photo was taken
21:43 < aestetix> wait, how did you find that photo so quickly
21:43 <@Dagmar> _NSAKEY: There's a reason I specifically mentioned heat-shrinkable plastic, and multiple layers of it.
21:44 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: I've seen it before, and Dagmar's comment made me think to go back and find it.
21:45 < _NSAKEY> There are multiple pictures of the same get getting seran wrapped.
21:45 < _NSAKEY> s/get/kid
21:45 <@RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTt98Ged9bM
21:45 < PigBot> Title: VIDEO: Homeless Man Attacked By Seattle Cop - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/ooytcfs
21:49 <@Dagmar> Saran Wrap can't slowly crush anyone to death.
21:50 <@RangerZ> Dagmar has tried this in centennial park on a couple occasions when crack heads approached him
21:53 < aestetix> wait
21:53 < aestetix> Dagmar: are you saying you will censor Corydon's right to free speech?
21:54 <@Dagmar> Nope.
21:54 <@Dagmar> I'm saying that if you continue to be an alienating dick, I'm going to start creating situations where you might accidentally meet your demise.
21:54 <@RangerZ> aestetix: he can't censor corydon's rights to free speech
21:54 < aestetix> wait, who am I alienating?
21:55 <@RangerZ> he would just prevent it in a single venue at a single time
21:55 <@RangerZ> right now, corydon
21:55 < aestetix> but corydon isn't here
21:56 <@RangerZ> females, gays, people with waists between 18 and 50 inches
21:56 <@RangerZ> i'm probably missing some, but I haven't been paying attention to chat too closely
21:56 < aestetix> but klixa loves me
21:59 <@Dagmar> Then she might mourn your untimely demise.
22:09 <@RangerZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU3ril8nGkQ
22:10 < PigBot> Title: LAPD Finds NO RACISM In LAPD After Investigating 1,356 Cases Of Racial Profiling - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) http://tinyurl.com/zguydpu
22:11 <@RangerZ> .....
22:12 <@Dagmar> 'cuz it's not racism if all they care about is that someone's "not a cop"
22:15 <@Dagmar> It catches _some_ idioms, and it's getting better at it.
22:15 <@Dagmar> @#$@
22:18 < dfused> ...meh.....
22:26 < aestetix> ok so
22:26 < aestetix> RangerZ: do you think programs like Common Core are a net positive or negative?
22:29 <@RangerZ> common core itself? a net negative
22:29 <@RangerZ> but that is because of implementation
22:29 <@RangerZ> the -standards- themselves are a net positive
22:30 <@RangerZ> but Bush's brother in law owns one of the largest companies in the US that makes tests
22:30 <@RangerZ> and that is the problem, the schools are so underfunded, that they don't have time to do the research or to make tests for their students
22:30 < aestetix> It seems like all the big issues in the US are due to corporations that have social ties to politicians
22:30 <@RangerZ> so they have to buy tests with 0 to 0 oversight
22:31 <@RangerZ> http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/talking-pineapple-question-state-exam-stumps-article-1.1064657
22:31 < PigBot> RangerZ: That URL appears to have no HTML title.
22:31 <@RangerZ> I remember taking standardized tests in elementary
22:32 <@RangerZ> a few times, maybe once every year or every other year
22:32 <@RangerZ> but it only ate out a week of mornings , and maybe a few hours before that teaching us how to fucking use bubble sheets
22:33 <@RangerZ> then once(or twice) in middle school, (Ohio had '9th grade proficiencies' which we all took in 8th grade, to prove we had at a very base minimum a 9th grade prof. in the 5 major subjects : math, science, reading, writing, and social studies
22:33 <@RangerZ> you needed that to graduate HS
22:34 <@RangerZ> (wasn't an issue in my school district where most people passed them all before 9th grade
22:34 <@RangerZ> but it was an issue in poorer districts
22:34 <@RangerZ> and that was it
22:35 <@RangerZ> there wasn't weeks long prep for the tests, there wasn't "teaching to the tests" (at least to the level it is now)
22:41 < _NSAKEY> From what I've read of common core, the questions really put an emphasis on reading comprehension...
22:41 <@RangerZ> maybe
22:41 < _NSAKEY> ... Which is a stupid joke in this state, as just about everyone in this channel who is from here will agree.
22:42 <@RangerZ> but that is probably biased
22:42 <@RangerZ> because those are the easiest for kids to remember
22:42 <@RangerZ> because parents and teachers are NEVER allowed to see these tests
22:42 <@RangerZ> because the company who makes them re-uses them year after year all over the country
22:43 < _NSAKEY> No, like even reading the math questions, the kids would have to be good at reading comprehension to survive those questions.
22:43 <@RangerZ> the 'teaching the test', the 'tests with no oversight'(or review), and the tying of school funding/teacher pay to these single tests, which leads to the  elimination of all other content in schools
22:44 <@RangerZ> those are the big issues with the implementation
22:44 <@RangerZ> in general though, I 100% agree that all states in the US should have a _minimum_ educational standard
22:47 <@RangerZ> aestetix: if you want to look into why the US education system is so underfunded at the local level, look into how they are paid for by real-estate taxes
22:48 <@RangerZ> or if the state ends up passing state-constitution that you can't do that... then they use 'levies' (which are't taxes)
22:49 <@RangerZ> (that is what Ohio does)
22:49 <@RangerZ> its illegal to pay for schools via real estate taxes
22:49 <@RangerZ> so _every_ area with money pays for their schools via '5 mil levies', etc.
22:51 <@RangerZ> which is a tax that is 'evenly distributed' among all real estate by sq.ft. in the area
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22:56 < aestetix> heh
22:56 < aestetix> I just accidentally got into a twitter fight with one of Facebook's VC investors
22:57 <@klixa> ok namedropper
22:57 < aestetix> how is that namedropping
22:58 < aestetix> It's not saying "I know him"
22:58 < aestetix> In fact if I meet him in real life he'll probably punch me
22:58 <@klixa> its close enough... you still have the California in you :P
22:59 < aestetix> https://twitter.com/BenedictEvans/status/678796291199995904
23:06 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: The fact that he'll punch you in person differs from virtually everyone else you talk to in what way?
23:11 <@klixa> twitter is for faggots
23:23 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: klixa loves me
23:24 <@RangerZ> twitter if for professors to use to notify students when they cancel class
23:24 <@RangerZ> at least that is why I have an account from when it came out
23:25 <@RangerZ> Twitter is a great [broadcast medium], it isn't conductive to intelligent discussions
23:26 <@klixa> i really dunno how people use twitter....i mean, when i had it, it was basically used the same way as facebook...but now its more like irc...just people tweeting abck adn forth
23:26 <@RangerZ> apps have arisen that promote that
23:26 <@RangerZ> thats how
23:26 <@RangerZ> because the base site UI basically fails at that
23:26 <@klixa> like facebook as in you post a status and thats it, cause actually fb has changed...people shotgun off posts on it now too
23:26 <@RangerZ> they had to
23:27 <@RangerZ> 'creating discussions' is the only good way to drive people to actually 'care'
23:27 <@RangerZ> (about coming back and seeing adverts)
23:27 <@RangerZ> obviously
23:27 <@klixa> click bait is the fevil
23:27 <@klixa> devil*
23:28 <@klixa> i cilck so many ads of "you will never believe waht this one trick helped this one person do" type creap :(
23:28 < _NSAKEY> klixa: Why?
23:29 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: I normally would not spoiler, but... the teleporter thankfully does _not_ result in some massive retributive attack
23:29 < _NSAKEY> The headline is almost always better than the end result.
23:29 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: I spent even more time than you turning the site into a killing field for nothin'
23:30 <@Evilpig> I realize that now
23:31 <@klixa> _NSAKEY: its not almost always, its always...i just cant stop myself tho...
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