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02:24 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: Is the implication that Konami is replacing someone?  Hehe
02:24 <@Dagmar> "Off-topic" is strongly frowned upon, particularly if there's real problems "on deck"
02:24 <@Dagmar> @#$@$
03:35 < aestetix> So yeah
03:35 < aestetix> Fuck Facebook
03:35 < aestetix> and their bullshit bug bounty program
03:35 <@Dagmar> <quebre> Dagmar: in real world you test your admin before allowing him to mess
03:35 <@Dagmar>           with the servers
03:36 <@Dagmar> LOLOLOL
03:39 < aestetix> Ok so RangerZ maybe you can explain
03:39 < aestetix> Why is Bernie Sanders coming under fire over a data breach, when everyone ignored Hillary's?
03:46 <@Dagmar> because they're idiots
03:47 <@Dagmar> The DNC fucked up in allowing access to the data
03:47 <@Dagmar> One of his staffers was able to access it, and probably immediately said "WTF"
03:47 <@Dagmar> This is some top level dumbassery to be sure
03:47 <@Dagmar> The staffer was _fired_ and they've cut Sanders' access to their databases
03:48 <@Dagmar> Talk about some "shoot the messenger" shit
03:50 < aestetix> yep
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05:07 <@Dagmar> Damnit
05:07 <@Dagmar> Someone drew my attention to bluetooth stuff a bit ago and now i'm looking at the code in bluez that handles the time service and there's a big FIXME right in the middle of some of it
05:08 <@Dagmar> Mind you this fixme is because of some nonsense about whether or not the timezone information is being set accurately, but...
05:08 <@Dagmar> ...if this is as flaky as I suspect and I'm not the asshole who finds it, I'm going to be pissed
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06:08 <@RangerZ> http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/18/us/virginia-school-shut-islam-homework/
06:08 < PigBot> Title: Schools in Virginia shut over anger at Islam homework - CNN.com (at www.cnn.com) http://tinyurl.com/qzgkjq8
06:09 <@RangerZ> jesus... sure they might have used a less 'meaningful' arabic calligraphy example, but wtf... no reason to pull your child out of school, or to shut down the fucking school.
06:09 <@RangerZ> just give them a choice of what fucking scribbles to draw
06:13 <@RangerZ> but its good that they realize that the most likely religious nut jobs with a gun might actually take it upon themselves to do harm are likely to be Christian Right Wing Extremists.... you know... the threat that the FBI calls the '#1 domestic threat'
06:43 < aestetix> .....
06:44 < aestetix> I was hoping that the drawing would be a picture of mohammen
06:44 < aestetix> mohammed
06:45 < aestetix> RangerZ: is the teacher who gave the assignment Islamic?
06:45 < aestetix> because if not, then the whole "trying to convert our kids" makes no fucking sense
06:46 <@RangerZ> nope
06:46 <@RangerZ> the homework was out of a 'standard' world geography workbook
06:46 <@RangerZ> she didn't even make the fucking assignment up
06:47 <@RangerZ> THAT is the reason I'm willing to give the teacher a pass
07:00 < aestetix> so people are afraid to send their kids to school because a teacher there used an assignment that contained a few words they found offfensive
07:07 <@RangerZ> no
07:08 <@RangerZ> they found it 'indoctrinating for islam and against the [one true god Jesus]'
07:26 <@Dagmar> That's because they are idiots.
07:29 <@Dagmar> What the teacher has on there is wholly correct
07:29 <@Dagmar> As far as calligraphy goes, the Arab world has been into it for an _incredibly_ long time
07:35 <@RangerZ> ohh I don't know... 1400 years or so
07:35 <@RangerZ> ;)
07:45 < aestetix> It seems that at some point, Americans just sort of threw logic out the window.
07:46 < aestetix> Although given the Paris attacks, the french are not much better
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08:01 < aestetix> broken enter key == sore pinky
08:01 < aestetix> I feel like I'm using emacs
08:02 <@CRasH180> stop hitting the keyboard so much and you will not break any more enter keys
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09:59 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: At least now nobody can exploit the grub2 vuln on your box while you're away, unless they swap out your keyboard.
10:08 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Why are you mad about the instagram bug bounty? The guy went out of scope, and if Stamos is to be believed, other people found the original RCE first.
10:10 < _NSAKEY> I get that a strict reading of their rules didn't rule out password cracking and grabbing SSL keys from S3 buckets, but that's no excuse to pretend that it isn't ok.
10:12 < _NSAKEY> s/isn't/is
10:13 < _NSAKEY> If he wanted to engage in rude/blackhat behavior like that without getting yelled at, he shouldn't have participated in the bug bounty and should have just dumped everything on full-disclosure.
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10:37 <@RangerZ> aestetix: actually they are
10:37 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: ok so
10:37 <@RangerZ> aestetix: the french didn't let the far right wing win the parliament regional elections
10:38 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: ok so what?
10:38 <@RangerZ> the 'not so far right' decided to tell people to vote for a somewhat liberals so that the FAR RIGHT wouldn't win
10:39 < aestetix> 1. That approach allows Facebook to minimize the scope of the issue. The scope they set is absolute bullshit. Being able to hack into a system and not even run "ls" just tightens how security researchers are able to operate.
10:39 < aestetix> 2. Facebook went *way* overboard by calling the CEO of the company the guy worked for.
10:39 < aestetix> 3. Facebook went *way* overboard by threatening legal action.
10:40 < aestetix> 4. If the security issue was already known, why hadn't it been fixed?
10:40 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: The guy proved he could get in. Exfiltrating data, cracking weak passwords, and then logging in is not something the guy needed to do.
10:40 < aestetix> 5. I think the bug bounty programs in general are a bad paradigm and need to die.\
10:40 < _NSAKEY> Unless Facebook's "engineers" are such utter trash that they couldn't determine the scope.
10:40 <@RangerZ> France and US have the highest % of immigrants among the "western" nations IIRC
10:40 <@RangerZ> aestetix: _NSAKEY what you talking about?
10:41 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: http://exfiltrated.com/research-Instagram-RCE.php and https://www.facebook.com/notes/alex-stamos/bug-bounty-ethics/10153799951452929
10:41 < PigBot> Couldn't snarf url: timed out. http://tinyurl.com/zym9l5p
10:41 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: I agree. I'd rather see fully weaponized PoCs and dull dumps hit the internet, with no warning to the vendors. Those days were a lot funnier.
10:41 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: would you agree that getting root access on a system with nothing on it is less of a threat than getting root access on a system with classified information?
10:41 < _NSAKEY> s/dull/full/
10:42 < _NSAKEY> It is, but the guy didn't need to go the extra mile just to prove scope.
10:42 < _NSAKEY> It was kind of pointless.
10:42 < _NSAKEY> I don't know which one is telling the truth.
10:42 < aestetix> Except by taking the extra step, he was able to gain full access to a whole shitload of things, that massively increased the risk.
10:42 < _NSAKEY> The guy says that Stamos opened up with contacting his employer.
10:42 <@RangerZ> aestetix: I disagree about the bug bounty system, I think its the "least bad option"
10:42 < _NSAKEY> Stamos says they tried talking to the guy first and then reached out to his employer.
10:42 <@RangerZ> because if you don't put a a legal bounty out there, the black market will just get them
10:42 <@RangerZ> ok... my wifi is lagging bad
10:43 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: I would also like to see all the emails released.
10:43 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: So would I.
10:43 < _NSAKEY> Facebook is understandably shitting its pants, because this guy is talking openly about getting things like SSL keys.
10:44 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: the extra step he took is the difference between a 2500 bounty and a million dollar bounty.
10:44 <@RangerZ> aestetix: I disagree about the bug bounty system, I think its the "least bad option", because if you don't put a a legal bounty out there, the black market will just get them...  So if you offer up to 10k for a 'major' bug, then you can turn gray/black-ish hats into white hats, b/c being able to say publicly  "i found a 10k$ bug in facebook" is a HUGE line to put on a CV
10:44 < _NSAKEY> That's prety clearly a privacy violation according to their own rules.
10:44 < aestetix> I have to go in a moment, but RangerZ I will happily go into detail on why I hate the bug bounties.
10:44 < _NSAKEY> It might not be as straightforward as dumping the user table, but imagine if an intelligence agency got their hands on those keys.
10:45 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: right.
10:45 < _NSAKEY> Drug dealers on instagram are a thing.
10:45 <@RangerZ> Ohh i understand the counter arguments, I've had this discussion with an IEEE fellow here at ISIS
10:45 < _NSAKEY> The DEA would be all over that.
10:45 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: here's the other reason Facebook is wrong. It's not about the door, it's about what's inside.
10:45 < aestetix> This was a way that guy got inside. If someone else finds another way in, they get access to the same data.
10:46 <@RangerZ> almost got into a verbal argument w/ the director of ISIS over that and "IoT"
10:46 <@RangerZ> .... yeah.... not a 'great' day that day
10:46 <@RangerZ> lol
10:46 < aestetix> And a blackhat Russian is not going to a give a shit about their scope.
10:46 < _NSAKEY> I can agree that if they're going to pay the bounty, they might as well up what they gave everyone for this particular bug.
10:46 < _NSAKEY> They did get shamed into that, I think.
10:46 <@RangerZ> aestetix: good ngiht
10:46 <@RangerZ> night
10:46 <@RangerZ> eat a snickers bar, because you turn into carzypants when you're hungry
10:46 <@RangerZ> ;)
10:47 < aestetix> enis
10:48  * RangerZ will read up on what you two are talking about in a bit when I leave my car from the parking garage (avoiding a meeting I don't want to go to, lol) (and know I'd be dragged into... about putting me on a NEW _additional_ project....) 
10:48 <@Evilpig> omg,  this guy asking for support over in #opendcim is pissing me off
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11:08 <@RangerZ> _NSAKEY: okay, so I don't think FB's action is wrong (at least from what I see on FB's post)
11:08 <@RangerZ> and after reading the webcache of his post...
11:08 <@RangerZ> I see his point too
11:08 <@RangerZ> but FB's policy is somewhat stupid IMHO, because "working as designed" can be a vulnerability too
11:09 <@RangerZ> S3 and AWS using -the same- keys _could_ be an issue IMHO too
11:14 < _NSAKEY> Did that guy memory hole the post?
11:19 <@RangerZ> dunno
11:19 <@RangerZ> just coudln't hit it
11:32 < _NSAKEY> It looks like his site is down.
11:43 < dfused> cue sad trombone
11:50 <@RangerZ> _NSAKEY: I would claim that his # 2,3,4,5,6, and 7 ARE issues
11:50 <@RangerZ> but Facebook's opinion that they aren't b/c they violate privacy.... is kinda a BS out
11:51 <@RangerZ> FB needs to have that there for legal reasons (FTC and EU I'm guessing mostly)
11:51 <@RangerZ> but still BS, b/c "i can get user data" is an issue
11:52 <@RangerZ> but I don't think FB's mishandling of this is an indication that ALL bounty programs are an issue
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12:34 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: I'm of the opinion that the original issue, since it leads to all the others, should get a huge payout... But only to the guy who originally discovered it and tipped this guy off.
12:35 < _NSAKEY> The biggest thing this guy accomplished was showing that Facebook is possibly being miserly in their bug bounty payouts.
12:35 < _NSAKEY> Until we find out what the guy who originally found the bug got paid, I'm reserving judgement.
12:36 < _NSAKEY> The whole bug bounty concept relies on an honor system, in terms of the company saying what impact the bug had.
12:36 < _NSAKEY> That means there's potential for them to lie and pay less, which may have happened here, but we don't really know that since the original bug finder hasn't stepped forward.
12:37 < _NSAKEY> In terms of who is telling the truth regarding whether Alex Stamos tried talking to the guy first and then went to his employer vs going straight to his employer... I'd like to see who is lying about that.
12:38 < _NSAKEY> I think (And hope, since I think facebook needs to die in a fire) that the next person just full-disclosures everything.
12:38 < _NSAKEY> That's regardless of how this particular incident pans out.
12:52 <@NotLarry> Wait, there is a new star wars movie comeing out?
12:53 <@oddball> That's the word
12:53 <@Evilpig> I thought the word was "please"
12:54 <@oddball> Or maybe "the bird?"
13:11 <@RangerZ> http://exfiltrated.com/research-Instagram-RCE.php his site is back up , as an FYI
13:11 < PigBot> Title: EXFiLTRATED (at exfiltrated.com) http://tinyurl.com/zym9l5p
13:37 <@RangerZ> Can I have multiple membership cards?  ---->  Only if you've been clinically diagnosed with multiple personalities. And each personality has its own email address.
13:37 <@RangerZ> from:   https://login.gamestop.com/Home/FAQ   , kinda funny
13:37 < PigBot> Title: PowerUp Rewards - Frequently Asked Questions (at login.gamestop.com) http://tinyurl.com/zw4r3xh
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14:56 <@RangerZ> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3366191/Could-finally-hpone-lasts-day-Sony-reveals-superbattery-40-capacity-sale-2020.html
14:56 < PigBot> Title: Sony reveals ‘superbattery’ with 40% more capacity will go on sale in 2020 | Daily Mail Online (at www.dailymail.co.uk) http://tinyurl.com/hpc9f7g
14:57 <@RangerZ> Li-S batteries hold more charge..... but have fewer cycles....
14:57 <@RangerZ> repeat after me class... "designed obsolescence"
14:57 <@RangerZ> hehe
15:06 <@RangerZ> Evilpig: http://www.digitaltrends.com/movies/plex-for-playstation-4-xbox-one-now-free/
15:06 < PigBot> Title: Plex Goes Free On PlayStation 4, Xbox One | Digital Trends (at www.digitaltrends.com) http://tinyurl.com/z3uug5v
15:06 <@CRasH180> Plex, not Plex Pro
15:06 <@Evilpig> I knew they would eventually
15:07 <@CRasH180> Yeah
15:07 <@Evilpig> they like to put their new apps out for plexpass only at first and call it a preview release
15:42 <@Dagmar> RangerZ: Nah... more like they officially decided to make the trade-off on the new formulation.
15:43 <@Dagmar> "Although Li-S cells have more capacities, the sulfur breaks down faster and manufactures have ruled this option out in the past."
15:43 <@Dagmar> ...bad grammar notwithstanding.
15:50 <@RangerZ> yeah, I dunno... I'm not sure what I'd want, but I'll be curious to see the exact 'break down rates'
15:58 <@Dagmar> My guess is that it's probably only _marginally_ in favor of the prior-used formula, stricly measured on the basis of total volume of ampere hours over time.
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16:00 <@Dagmar> Probably if you went and dug out the papers on Li battery degradation and charging, you'd see the kind of detailed research that went into deciding what to use.
16:00 <@Dagmar> For sure the average battery might be smallish, but managed properly is generally outliving the 2-year replacement cycle cell phone providers are pushing now.
16:01 <@Dagmar> If someone's wanting more power in the same space and isn't concerned about what happens after two years, they'll probably be quite fine with the tradeoff of Li-S.
16:02 <@Dagmar> Somene needs to bring us a juicy problem
16:02 <@Dagmar> @#$@
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16:46 < dasunt> I don't know what it is, but my tolerance for BS has hit a new low.
16:50 < trickshotjohnny> bullshit
16:52 < trickshotjohnny> what tripped it this time?
16:53 <@Evilpig> I shit in his boots
16:53 <@Evilpig> he was being an asshole though
16:55 < trickshotjohnny> it's always better to be pissed off than pissed on
16:56 <@RangerZ> aestetix disagrees, that is why he moved to .DE
17:12 < dasunt> trickshotjohnny: Worked on filling out my health insurance enrollment plan:  fun - switching companies with a new job.
17:12 < dasunt> If anything makes me ever host up the red flag of socialism, it'll be dealing with health insurance.
17:15 < dasunt> Here's plan A that we offer, with the following in-network locations.  Here's plan B that we offer, with the exact same terms for the exact same price, but the in-network locations are different.  Why don't we just combine both plans into one big plan with a larger list of in-network locations?  'Cause then it would be too easy.
17:19 < dasunt> Then there's the example rates and how they work.  The scenario is "maintenance of well-controlled diabetes".  Note the key word - mainenance.  Not complications.  Not emergencies.  Just what a diabetic would pay to have their condition treated.  The cost billed to the patient?  $1,980 / year.
17:20 <@Evilpig> so about $150/mo
17:21 < dasunt> That's on top of the insurance rates.  Which is another $100.
17:21 < dasunt> So the average healthy diabetic on this plan pays $3,000+/year.  Glad I'm not diabetic.
17:22 < dasunt> Then there's dental insurance, which is another hoot and a hollar.
17:23 < dasunt> So my dental plan right now is from my wife's job.
17:23 < dasunt> I'd like to switch it over to my place of work, since we have the exact same plan by the exact same company.
17:24 < dasunt> But wait - the plan has a waiting period - after enrolling, you must wait 12 months for any major dental work, and I need a crown in January.  Not a problem if I continue on my wife's plan, but if I enroll at my job, it resets and I must wait until 2017.
17:25 < dasunt> I actually inquired about this, just to see if they couldn't make an exception.  Nope.
17:25 <@Evilpig> that's because you aren't a customer of the insurance company your employer is
17:25 <@Evilpig> and this is how they fuck the customer legally
17:28 < dasunt> There needs to be a term for this.  It's not exactly a confusopoly, although insurance companies have that going for them as well.  Maybe an impedeopoly?  What's the latin or greek prefix for "impede"?  Or a similar word to reflect that an insurance company's goal is to pay out as little as possible.
17:40 <@Evilpig> just remember they're the victims here
17:48 <@Dagmar> There's already a name for that.
17:48 <@Dagmar> It's called a _bureacracy_
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18:19 < aestetix> howdy ho
18:21 < dfused> dookie
19:21 < aestetix> god damn
19:21 < aestetix> just as we were all getting over the facebook bullshit
19:21 < aestetix> it happened to the DNC
19:22 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: ? Link.
19:23 < aestetix> uh
19:23 < aestetix> look at CNN
19:23 < aestetix> the DNC/Sanders drama
19:24 <@Dagmar> More bullshit to avoid running a story about the fucking nonsense Paul Ryan has pulled with CISA
19:24 < _NSAKEY> People under the retirement age look at CNN?
19:24 < aestetix> Dagmar: I am unware of the CISA stuff, but I'd say both are pretty serious.
19:24 <@Dagmar> ...but at least CNN has now admitted that Bernie Sanders actually exists
19:24 < aestetix> haha
19:24 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: CISA got shoved into a must-pass budget bill.
19:24 <@Dagmar> No the DNC/Sanders stuff is just bullshit
19:24 < aestetix> ugh
19:25 < _NSAKEY> So did something the Republicans wanted, which will bar the FCC from enforcing net neutrality.
19:25 <@Dagmar> So this year, we're going to teach EVERYONE how to encrypt the fuck out of EVERYTHING
19:25 < aestetix> Dagmar: I think the Sanders drama is a good argument for not using cloud computing
19:25 <@Dagmar> aestetix; I think it's a good argument for learning not to shoot the fucking messenger
19:25 < _NSAKEY> Another bit of pork in the same bill is that the feds will be hands-off with medical marijuana.
19:25 < aestetix> Yes, it sucks to spend a bit more money to have all your own servers. But god it's nice to know you won't lose access to your own data.
19:25 < _NSAKEY> It's been the Obama administration's policy, but it will be official once this bill is signed.
19:25 < aestetix> Dagmar: they'll never learn that.
19:26 <@Dagmar> We can explain it to them while everything is rebuilt after being burned to the ground when Trump "wins"
19:27 < aestetix> Well at least we know if Trump wins, the US won't go to war with Russia.
19:27 < _NSAKEY> Yeah, him and Putin will be too busy making out to push the big red buttons on each other.
19:27 < aestetix> On the plus side
19:28 < aestetix> I wonder if enough crazy shit is starting to happen that the media doesn't have to use stupid clickbait headlines anymore
19:28 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: Another plus to Trump winning is that all these stupid millenial shitlords might have to get over being triggered about everything.
19:29 < _NSAKEY> Can you see him going to Yale and telling them to quit being a bunch of wimps, or something meaner? Hahaha.
19:29 <@Dagmar> He won't do that
19:29 < aestetix> I could totally see Trump getting pissed at Congress and signing an executive order to dissolve it.
19:29 <@Dagmar> The only thing he'll do is try to capitalize on polticial favors from lobbyists to make himself super-rich again
19:30 < aestetix> Dagmar: so no different than any other politician.
19:30 <@Dagmar> We've finally got the greediest motherfucker possible auditioning for the position of Chief Bribe Taker
19:31 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: tl;dr this Sanders drama.
19:31 < _NSAKEY> I'm 6 paragraphs into this CNN story and can't tell what the hell happened, because they made the mistake of letting a normal write it.
19:33 < _NSAKEY> Ok, nevermind.
19:33 < _NSAKEY> http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/la-na-democrats-data-breach-20151218-htmlstory.html
19:33 < PigBot> Title: Why the voter file data breach by Bernie Sanders' campaign is a big deal for Democrats - LA Times (at www.latimes.com) http://tinyurl.com/zr9on5r
19:33 < _NSAKEY> The DNC is the only one that should be looking bad here.
19:34 < _NSAKEY> "Digital privacy advocates warn the law is full of “carve-outs” for political campaigns when it comes to privacy. "
19:34 < _NSAKEY> So true.
19:34 < _NSAKEY> I spent a couple of weeks compiling a list of where/how to buy bulk voter data for each state, along with restrictions and penalties.
19:34 <@Dagmar> There's plenty of bullshit coming from the DNC, which isn't helping
19:34 < _NSAKEY> If it's for a politicial campaign, nobody cares.
19:35 < _NSAKEY> This is a classic case of, "We can't computer, so we're going to shoot the messenger."
19:35 < _NSAKEY> To bring it up again, this is what full-disclosure is for.
19:35 <@Dagmar> They've said they fired the staffer who accessed the information, as well as have said the only reason the data was accessed was to measure their own exposure when the "firewall was dropped"
19:35 <@Dagmar> Hell, this might all be an elaborate load of bullshit designed to _force_ the mass media to admit that Bernie Sanders exists
19:35 < _NSAKEY> There's also that.
19:36 < _NSAKEY> They really want it to be Trump vs Clinton.
19:37 < dfused> what happened to the story this week of the new guy using his personal cell phone for secret data ?
19:37 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: fwiw I think that would be hilarious
19:37 < _NSAKEY> aestetix: What, Trump vs Clinton, or DNC/Clinton-curated data hitting full-disclosure in a tarball?
19:38 < aestetix> yes
19:38 < _NSAKEY> But which one? Or both?
19:38 < aestetix> _NSAKEY: actually
19:38 < aestetix> It would be hilarious to post a torrent with like a gig size tarball, and say it's the full curated data of the Clinton campaign
19:39 < aestetix> But it's encrypted, and if Sanders doesn't get access, the key will be relased
19:39 < _NSAKEY> And have it just be "GOATSE" spammed to fill up several GB or so?
19:39 < aestetix> exactly
19:39 < _NSAKEY> You can feel free to do that, since you're not in the US anymore.
19:40 < _NSAKEY> I'm pretty sure they'd charge one of us with a crime even if it turned out to be a hoax.
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19:40 < aestetix> have RangerZ do it
19:41 <@RangerZ> aestetix: I don't care if you are in Germany or not, I won't post your Holocaust Denial materials online for you
19:41 < dfused> lol
19:43 < aestetix> RangerZ: actually the idea was to have you get a swastika tattoo on your asshole
19:43 <@RangerZ> see... I _WAS_ right
19:44 < aestetix> come on, it won't hurt too much
19:44 < aestetix> well as long as you don't hang out with Corydon
19:44 <@RangerZ> I actually have a date tomorrow with a hindu to go see the star wars movie...
19:45 <@RangerZ> so swastika to her means something entirely different than what you want
19:45 <@RangerZ> but... still .... no
19:45 <@RangerZ> lol
19:45 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: Is it the same girl you brought to 2600 that time?
19:45 <@RangerZ> no
19:45 < dfused> wait WHAT?
19:45 < _NSAKEY> The one Dagmar kept hitting on poorly?
19:45 < _NSAKEY> Or another girl?
19:45 < aestetix> hindu? call the terrorist hotline
19:45 < dfused> the nazi one is backwards
19:45 < dfused> it snot the same
19:45 <@RangerZ> shh
19:45 <@RangerZ> YOU and ME know that
19:46 <@RangerZ> I'm not too sure about aestetix
19:46 < dfused> ok ok...you scared me for a moment.
19:46 < aestetix> just say that you saw someone who looked like a minority with a gun and you think you heard them say allah
19:47 <@RangerZ> Nah, "black power"
19:47 <@RangerZ> will work better in TN
19:47 < dfused> panthers
19:47 < _NSAKEY> No, I think aestetix is right.
19:47 <@Dagmar> _NSAKEY: I hit on a girl?
19:47 < dfused> oh dear god no!
19:47 < _NSAKEY> Look at the rage that was caused by the mosque in Murfreesboro.
19:47 <@Dagmar> Not fukin' possible man
19:47 < aestetix> Dagmar: you're gay?
19:47 <@RangerZ> take that back, blasphemy
19:48 <@Dagmar> aestetix: No, i'm INTJ.
19:48 <@Dagmar> Unless I've been drinking I categorically don't hit on women
19:48 <@RangerZ> Swheta, the girl I was able to get to come to 2600 (once)
19:48 <@RangerZ> she was scared off by _NSAKEY
19:48 < _NSAKEY> Well, I don't know what you want to call... Whatever the hell you were doing... But it was hysterical to watch.
19:48 <@Dagmar> You are _far_ too easily amused
19:49 <@Dagmar> I am nice to girls.  Deal with it.
19:49 <@RangerZ> leave him alone... he likes to read TOR mailing lists
19:49 <@RangerZ> of course he is
19:49 <@RangerZ> ;)
19:49 <@Dagmar> lol
19:49 < _NSAKEY> The use of all-caps tor means I will never take you seriously.
19:50 <@RangerZ> tOR ?
19:50 <@RangerZ> T|| ?
19:50 <@Dagmar> toR
19:50 < _NSAKEY> But seriously, you decided you were going to sit down next to her and talk to her.
19:50 <@Dagmar> No wait.... t0r isn't it?
19:50 < _NSAKEY> The only time she expressed interest was when you mentioned working for Vandy in the past... And that went away as soon as you started talking about Vandy in your usual manner.
19:50 <@RangerZ> _NSAKEY: that isn't hitting on her, that was just being non-shut in
19:51 <@RangerZ> also... who got you dinner for free ?
19:51 <@RangerZ> THAT was flirting with the bartender
19:51 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: Heh. Technically, she already made the call to give me dinner for free. You confirmed it.
19:52 <@Dagmar> So what.  Fuck Vandy
19:52 <@Dagmar> ...and again, I don't hit on girls.
19:52 <@Dagmar> It's why I'm fuckin' sitting here debugging CentOS bullshit on a Friday night
19:53 <@Dagmar> If I'd hit on her, I'd be _dating_ her
19:53 <@Dagmar> I sure as hell don't hit on girls who are probably 20 and still certifiably insane
19:53 <@RangerZ> nah, she's 24
19:54 <@RangerZ> hehe
19:54 < aestetix> this should be fun
19:54 < aestetix> just started a twitter fight with dan kaminsky
19:54 <@Dagmar> Throw some singles at them maybe, hit on them no
19:54 <@RangerZ> https://twitter.com/Boogie2988/status/677632035360538624
19:54 < PigBot> Title: Steven Williams on Twitter: "I rarely enjoy seeing someone suffer but this little price gouging troll is an exception. @MartinShkreli https://t.co/3uMvaeBpBh" (at twitter.com) http://tinyurl.com/zlft6ue
19:55 <@RangerZ> hehe... yeah...
19:55 <@RangerZ> schadenfreude++
19:55 < _NSAKEY> RangerZ: That picture has a distinct lack of tears.
19:55 < _NSAKEY> The fed to his right looks more sad than he is.
19:57 <@RangerZ> I'd hate to be in the same picture as him too
19:58 <@RangerZ> probably his 15seconds of fame... and its THIS
19:58 < _NSAKEY> That's a very good point.
19:58 < _NSAKEY> At least nobody can mistake the context here.
19:59 < _NSAKEY> He just happens to be escorting him to the nearest party van.
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20:05 <@RangerZ> So did anyone hear about the fucking BS in Flint Michigan?
20:06 <@RangerZ> the Emergency Manager led to an entire generation of children to being lead poisoned
20:06 <@RangerZ> for last 1.5~2 years
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20:14 <@NotLarry> Not to spoil star wars for anyone but I'm pretty happy to have found this...
20:18 < dfused> mahnuh mahnuh
20:20 <@Dagmar> I HEARD THERE'S A BLACK JEDI AND A GIRL JEDI
20:20 <@Dagmar> SPOILER: THE BLACK JEDI ISN'T THE GIRL
20:20 < dfused> a black jedi?  .....thats racist
20:23 <@Dagmar> So is giving a damn what color he is
20:23 <@Dagmar> He's a fuckin' jedi.  They come in lots of colors... some of them are even green.
20:24 < dfused> and sexist
20:24 < dfused> species-ist?
20:24 <@Dagmar> Star Wars isn't racist, it's just demographically uneven and people are fuckin' morons.
20:25 <@Dagmar> There were female jedis in the _last_ movie
20:26 < dfused> i tused to be fun to watch the stupid flocks flutter around with all their insanity....but now they've gained political power like never before.
20:27 <@Dagmar> This is why I have no problems with calling them out in public
20:29 <@Dagmar> Embarrass the fuck out of them at every turn
20:30 <@Dagmar> Ask them point blank, if you flip a coin 1,000 times, will it ever be heads 500 times and tails 500 times?
20:30 <@Dagmar> How about five throws
20:30 <@Dagmar> Holy shit if you flip a coin five times and it comes up heads once and tails four times... why that must be RACIST
20:31 <@Dagmar> There's only one "token" heads result!
20:31 < dfused> hah
20:31 <@Dagmar> Just because everything isn't precisely evenly distributed doesn't mean someone's being a dick
20:32 <@Dagmar> ...except for the person throwing a fit because everything isn't precisely evenly distributed.
20:32 <@Dagmar> THAT person is being a dick.
20:32 < dfused> for a populace demanding equal distribution.....they sure do hate socialism
20:32 < dfused> or at least the word.
20:33 <@Dagmar> That rap club where the guests are 90% african-american?  RACIST AS FUCK
20:33 < dfused> wu-tang?
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20:33 <@Dagmar> Nevermind that the _real_ reason is that they've got a common culture and interest... It must be mostly black because they've chased everyone else away with their MICROAGRESSIONS
20:34 < dfused> or they just shot all the whitey folks
20:34 < dfused> payback for us getting them on crack
20:34 <@Dagmar> This is where political correctness has _broken_ these people's brains
20:35 <@Dagmar> They're incapable of even comprehending that _nature abhors perfect balance_
20:35 < dfused> like labelling everyone we dont like as a terrorist
20:35 <@Dagmar> No group is ever going to be perfectly ethnically diverse becuase ther'es no such thing in nature
20:36 <@Dagmar> It's as likely as getting exactly 500 tail results from 1,000 coin flips
20:36 <@Dagmar> Fuckwits shoudl just be glad some people are different from them
20:36 < dfused> I sure am....
20:36 < dfused> but I'm also gonna go back to binge watching Fringe.
20:37 <@Dagmar> Good for you
20:37 <@Dagmar> You know that show is sexist, right?
20:37 <@Dagmar> *snicker*
20:37 < dfused> well she sure is sexy
20:37 < dfused> hah
20:37 <@Dagmar> It fails the Bechdel test
20:38 < dfused> its also racist since almost all the actors/actresses are white
20:38 < dfused> -rolls eyes-
20:38 <@Dagmar> ...because no one gives a fuck about gender on the show.  They've got bigger problems to deal with.
20:38 < aestetix> I'm really not sure how that shit is relevant. Like at all.
20:38 <@Dagmar> These comparisons are _insane_
20:39 <@Dagmar> Walter is a lunatic
20:39 <@Dagmar> He is practically a world-leader in "crazy white people shit"
20:40 <@Dagmar> But of course it's a racist show because he wasn't cast as a latino or something
20:41 <@Dagmar> Strictly by the numbers, if these groups were all that interested in "diversity" instead of the mis-application of statistics, they'd be _screaming_ for more people from India to show up, everywhere.
20:41 <@Dagmar> Indians, and Chinese.  ...because there's more of them on the planet than literally _everyone_ else
20:42 < aestetix> hahaha
20:42 < aestetix> American girl in Germany, homeless German man on street taking a piss, dick out and everything. Girl goes, "Aw GROSS!" and the homeless man goes, "Danke!"
20:42 <@Dagmar> All of this bullshit is just hiding from the fact that what they really want is for _them_ to get special treatment
21:18 <@RangerZ> okay
21:18 <@RangerZ> I think I just either made the day of two people on stackoverflow
21:18 <@RangerZ> or... will make them cry in a corner
21:19 <@RangerZ> I'm not quite sure which one
21:19 <@RangerZ> gave them code examples with LONG detailed explanations
21:19 <@Evilpig> tl;dr
21:21 <@RangerZ> well... the code I gave was written by as "look a this cool complicated code" by one of my profs
21:22 <@RangerZ> s/by as/as/
21:40 <@RangerZ> https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/sanders-threatens-to-sue-dnc-if-access-to-voter-list-isnt-restored/2015/12/18/fa8d6df8-a5a2-11e5-ad3f-991ce3374e23_story.html
21:40 < PigBot> Title: Sanders sues the DNC over suspended access to critical voter list - The Washington Post (at www.washingtonpost.com) http://tinyurl.com/j5c94lv
21:41 <@RangerZ> This might end being a great treasure trove of emails from the DNC, since the Sanders Campaign will be able to get all of them about the Debates, etc.
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23:56 <@RangerZ> http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/12/17/muslim-teacher-fired-after-showing-malala-video.html?
23:56 < PigBot> Title: Muslim Teacher Fired After Showing Malala Video - The Daily Beast (at www.thedailybeast.com) http://tinyurl.com/oqkh7fo
23:57 <@RangerZ> yep.... lets not talk about a Nobel Laureate
23:57 <@RangerZ> nor "islam" in a _history_ class
23:59 <@RangerZ> but the christian teacher taught the same lesson, and didn't get fired
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